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Title: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 15, 2023, 08:17:48 PM
I started wondering at what age, in a very broad sense, people put down miniatures gaming with no intent to pick it up again?  Locally, we have a few gents in their earlier 70s still going but beyond that, no one.  Just curious to know if that is so on other parts of our little planet?

How this matters to me is that I'm past 65 now with a reasonable expectation to survive another 30 years (no guarantees, of course) so trying to time when to winnow down the collections for real.  This is besides a general need to wittle down for sanity's sake.  Apparently my grasp on said sanity isn't so great because I haven't reduced the supply much (very little and acquisitions have actually increased the quantity overall).
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: freerangeegg on March 15, 2023, 08:24:31 PM
The oldest regular player at our club is 86, and a good 50% are retired with no signs of wanting to pack it in, so I'm not sure there is a top age for gaming. I hope to keep going until they can use my lead pile to line the coffin. ;)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Golgotha on March 15, 2023, 10:37:44 PM
Wargame till your dead...
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: ithoriel on March 15, 2023, 11:06:07 PM
My kids have threatened to bury me with my armies arrayed around me like the Qin emperor, so why stop?  lol
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Inkpaduta on March 16, 2023, 02:13:30 AM
I have thought back this more in line with at what age does one stop buying and painting figures.
I can see playing for quite some time but at what point do I stop buying and painting things I might
get a chance to use.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FierceKitty on March 16, 2023, 02:54:54 AM
My kids have threatened to bury me with my armies arrayed around me like the Qin emperor, so why stop?  lol

As long as they plan to let you die first....
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Elbows on March 16, 2023, 03:41:55 AM
I'm not near that point, but I can see the desire to paint/build/construct/modify disappearing long before the desire to stop gaming.  I know people lose coordination, eye-sight, etc.

But gaming?  Even with models you painted 20 years before, or commission painted, etc?  I don't see that running out.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Hitman on March 16, 2023, 03:50:41 AM
I hate these topics...so morbid!! My wife told me to stop building, painting,  etc.  and start gaming with my figures that are already to use. The worst part is that anyone that I know to game with is close to a 2 hour drive one way. I guess I could solo game...

My relatives all seem to have died off early...and I feel I am on borrowed time. I turn 60 this year, which is older than my grandfather by 2 years and many of my uncles who passed awY in their 50s...
😭😢🥺
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Cat on March 16, 2023, 04:19:52 AM
I'm sure I could come up with some rules to make pushing up daisies more of a tactical challenge.
~ , ~
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: DivisMal on March 16, 2023, 07:09:42 AM
Wargame till your dead...

That’s the spirit!


Seriously: not really sure about the answer. I’d say, keep what you enjoy till the end. If you’re member of a club, the state in your will that they get your painted collections.
Projects you’ll never finished or unpainted stuff that’s been lying around for decades could be sold I guess, as I know from experience that your relatives will have a hard enough time when the point is reached, and might just throw it away. That way it reaches someone who enjoys it.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 16, 2023, 07:35:01 AM
I am heartened by the first response - and what I was hoping to hear.  And I agree that we can play beyond our painting/collecting portion of our life - even if only solo.  Thankfully, I live in an opponent rich environment though it is changing as I - and they - get older.  So, my current goal is to start developing a younger set of opponents to both keep an opponent pool in play and, hopefully, have their enthusiasm infect my later life.

For Hitman, longevity is absolutely relative but just because your family history is a bit dire that does not automatically mean you will have the same fate.  My late mother made it to 87 1/2 - a full five years longer than her nearest sibling and much longer than most of the others and definitely longer than her parents by a decade or two and she was a lifelong smoker with up to five packs a day habit.  My late father made it to 92 1/2 despite being morbidly obese, too many years north of 300 pounds.  Comparatively, I am in much better health than either of them was at my age which is why I stated I have a chance at another 30 years.  My concern is how long my memory holds together, my mom got hit with dementia the last few years of her life - my father was lucid to the end so maybe, maybe not.

As to preparing our collections for our own demise (not morbid, practical consideration - truly is), I have been assisting with a third disbursement of a deceased gaming acquaintance's collection and making plans is essential.  And I really need to do so myself so my wife won't be faced with something similar; she would be completely lost in the process.

I can say this, though: my proudest moments in this hobby has been helping those three surviving families and putting probably north of $16,000 US in their hands - mostly to benefit the deceased children.  And that with only a very small percentage of each collection being high quality paint jobs of good miniatures.  The greater concern - miniatures saturation in the marketplace.  Just how much can a given gaming population absorb before there is no room for more?  And at what point does that saturation crash painted miniatures prices.  Figures at the highest quality will have value but lower quality figures/paint jobs will have serious subpar value - if any value at all.  I am of the generation of mega-sized collections so this matters to me, for those with only modest skirmish sized collections, hopefully this will be less concerning.

Between now and the inevitable, I hope to enjoy my collections as long as possible.  At least those I retain.  And hope the same for others.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: sir_shvantselot on March 16, 2023, 07:42:45 AM
That’s what we are! The “mega collection” generation. Like generation Z just with a miniature addiction :P

I’m in my 40s and ten year old kid has already been discussing plans for how to realise value of my collection once I’m gone. Proud of them in a way.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Daeothar on March 16, 2023, 08:08:29 AM
Almost a decade ago ( :o ) I started a topic on this very subject and some interesting thoughts were shared:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=70119.msg851708#msg851708 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=70119.msg851708#msg851708)

As for how I view this now; I have not once considered stopping because of old age. To be honest, when I see the attendance at shows and conventions, the average age is already pretty high. This goes even more so for the model train community. And I fully intend to go on till the end too.

It's what I enjoy! I'm still almost two decades away from retirement, and I hope to be able to fulltime enjoy my hobby then.

When I was still a wee lad and played with my Lego's, I always had this question about the age limit; the boxes all said something along the lines of 'for ages 6-99' (many other toys did the same), so I wondered if it would be inappropriate to still play with my Lego's should I turn 100.

And early on, young me decided that that was just a guideline, not a law and I would continue to play with them. And I extend the same mentality to my wargaming hobby...
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Tactalvanic on March 16, 2023, 08:40:43 AM
I was posting about this last night and stopped, went to sleep on it.

Daeothar's your thread came to mind which is why I stopped

I have said to others - why stop? Keep doing the things you like, and love, as long as you are able

It's the stopping that kills you.

Get involved, stay involved, game solo, do it all as long as its fun and where active, do it.

Yes, common sense, reality, etc are factors, but we are talking miniatures and gaming here so both common sense and reality have already left the building.

Should we add ?

 "never give up, never surrender"

 :D
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: tikitang on March 16, 2023, 08:51:52 AM
I'm just about to turn 40, but am very much a minimalist and hate clutter and large collections. As such, I don't have a mega-collection of miniatures (in fact, the very notion of that fills me with dread). I have, thus far, only ever collected the miniatures I needed for any particular project I've been working on at the time. If I abandon the project I also abandon the associated miniatures, by whatever means necessary. So far, I have abandoned every project I've ever worked on, except for the current one. As such, my current miniature collection is rather compact (it could fit inside a shoebox).

However, the idea that my relatives discover my miniatures collection after I'm gone, small as it is, and are left with an impression of what I was like as a person based on it, and also left with the decision of what to do with it, also causes me to cringe. So, I plan to bury this hobby before they bury (or more likely burn) me.

Really, I don't place a lot of weight or value in it; it's just a temporary distraction to keep the creative side of my mind busy, providing a little break from the tedium of work and adult responsibility, not something I live for. I am very much into it at the moment, but I don't know how long this will last. I've taken up and dropped several hobbies over the years, and I am open to the possibility that this will also fade at some future point.

I've seen several eBay sales over the years where the seller has said: "Clearing out my recently deceased Dad's game collection." I never want my children to have to be in that situation. By the time I'm gone, I hope I'll have done all that myself.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Harry Faversham on March 16, 2023, 08:59:02 AM
You Can Take My Toy Sowjers When You Pry Them...
From My Cold, Dead, Fingers!

>:D
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Daeothar on March 16, 2023, 09:28:30 AM
...It's the stopping that kills you...

And that reminds me of the saying I have had on a sign on the wall of my workplace office for years:

'You don't stop playing when you get old; you get old when you stop playing.'

Words I strive to live by ;)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: has.been on March 16, 2023, 10:20:40 AM
Quote
Quote from: Tactalvanic on Today at 08:40:43 AM
...It's the stopping that kills you...

And that reminds me of the saying I have had on a sign on the wall of my workplace office for years:

'You don't stop playing when you get old; you get old when you stop playing.'

Words I strive to live by ;)

Amen to that brother.
I am thinking of organizing my boxes better, e.g. each box have a little card that says
something like, ' Figures are by Essex & are based/organized for ...set of rules. Rough
value of the boxful = ....'
So that whoever has to get rid of it has some guidance.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: zemjw on March 16, 2023, 11:45:20 AM
I am getting on, the hands are starting to ache, the eyes are not seeing the details they used to, all the usual stuff :(

My goal is to get as much of the lead pile painted while I'm still able, then actually make use of the little blighters when that becomes impractical.

I feel that, while there may be a limit to use of the hairy stick, pushing figures around should be virtually until my last gasp.

Hopefully, however, that's still a long way off (although not as long as I would like)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Karadek on March 16, 2023, 11:59:03 AM
Yeah. I'm 47, and now I have to wear the reading glasses or magnifiers to paint and read rulebooks. Already had carpal tunnel surgery for both hands, although that's probably due to decades of drumming. Not planning to stop anytime soon, although I have slowed down on my purchases. Got a biiiiig pile of shame to work through. 
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: ithoriel on March 16, 2023, 12:17:16 PM
I have thought back this more in line with at what age does one stop buying and painting figures.
I can see playing for quite some time but at what point do I stop buying and painting things I might
get a chance to use.
I'm already buying things I'm pretty sure I'll never paint, let alone use.
I am content to accept that I am a planner of projects, and a purchaser of items for the same, that I will never complete. It's a whole new hobby!  :)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: modelwarrior on March 16, 2023, 12:32:47 PM
How can you ever think of stopping when thier is so much more precious to buy ?
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 16, 2023, 02:54:37 PM
ithoriel nails my hobby 'addiction' - I love the whole process of researching a period, the available figures, buying the figures and sorting them to be ready to be worked on.  Have lots of those.  Problem?  The 'worked on' part.  Trying very hard to not do that any more. 

Organize? Yes.  Actually in pretty good shape.  But TOO much.  By orders of magnitude. 

But this thread is less about the end time and disposal and more about longevity in gaming while still alive, or at least that was its intent.  When intent and the gaming community collide the results can get - interesting.

Though I suppose my own comment lead it that way. 
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: dadlamassu on March 16, 2023, 03:09:58 PM
At various times I have stopped buying, or painting due to circumstances.  Sometimes I stopped playing wargames but only when deployed on operations by the army.  I can foresee a time when I may not be able to paint or build models but I cannot see a time that I will ever stop playing.

My regular opponent is over 80 and we have played wargames for more than 60 years almost every Monday.  A son (in the army) who collects, paints figures, creates fantastic 3D printed terrain and playes wargames when home on leave.  Now I have grandchildren who play.  So with 3 generations already involved I suspect that my collections will go to good homes.   
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Easy E on March 16, 2023, 03:12:00 PM
Since I also write rules, I have collections to go with those rulesets. 

Most of these rulesets I have played with my wife and child, so they know the basics.  My gaming groups is also pretty familiar with them.  When I die, I have asked them to set-up my collections as games at the visitation, and invite those who I leave behind to play the games I have created together.  Some people will have never tried, and others will be old hands.   

Essentially, I want my remembrance to be a mini-Con.  The best way to remember me, is to play the games I created!     
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Moriarty on March 16, 2023, 03:55:54 PM
N+1, where N is your current age?

Admittedly I’ve had to eschew ‘braille scale’ - which currently is 15mm down. So that leaves me with 20mm SCW, 30mm 18th century, 25mm 1066, VBCW and D&D figures, 28mm 40k and Fantasy. But no intentions of stopping due to age. I’ve even laid in some 54mm plastics (just in case).
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Sardoo on March 16, 2023, 05:46:31 PM
My kids have threatened to bury me with my armies arrayed around me like the Qin emperor, so why stop?  lol

Outstanding idea!  lol
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Psychlic Bob on March 16, 2023, 09:34:59 PM
Old wargamers never die, they have always smelt like that
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: RSDean on March 17, 2023, 10:09:24 AM
I’m 62, and my father is 92.  He is now a bit frail, but is still playing with his hobbies, though with some serious magnification for things like identifying tiny variations in postage stamps. 

My hope is to be playing to the end.  As several other posters have noted, though, whether I will be able to paint all the way will be a different story, and whether I can continue to store the boxes of lead soldiers in the basement and carry them and the scenery up and down the stairs for games is also questionable.

My wife anticipates difficulty with stairs later, so I am considering that the one-level house of the future is going to have to have a game/hobby space on the main floor; it may be that move that will finally prompt a rationalization of projects/collections to fit that hypothetical storage capacity.  I currently have some 54mm plastics which would be both light and big enough to see, and a variety of other scales, with 40mm lead and 1/72 plastic seeing the most use out of the non-25mm figures.

Both of my sons play, and the first grandchild is due soon, so I have hopes that someone in th family may want the toys.  At least the sons should have some idea of how to dispose of things.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Harry Faversham on March 17, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
My kids have threatened to bury me with my armies arrayed around me like the Qin emperor, so why stop?  lol

My old mate is, after the funeral, when everyone did a runner to the boozer, I went back to the graveside and sent his favourite Regiments to Valhalle with him.
Least I could do for the CO of the Dynamic Dunderheads!

 :'(
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: eilif on March 18, 2023, 03:26:19 AM
I hope to game until I can no longer physically do so.

Our oldest member is in his 60s and I bet he's got a few decades of gaming left in him.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: ced1106 on March 18, 2023, 04:45:16 AM
> How can you ever think of stopping when thier is so much more precious to buy ?

And, considering how expensive the hobby is, my wallet won't let me outgrow it only soon after I can afford it!

Also, painting takes time, and I didn't have that until I retired. Thanks to the internet and miniatures becoming better, you can't do a mediocre paint job and call it done!
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: has.been on March 18, 2023, 01:15:19 PM
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you can't do a mediocre paint job and call it done!

I beg to differ. :D :D :D
The more my eye-sight deteriorates, the better my paint jobs look. lol lol lol
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: eilif on March 18, 2023, 06:22:27 PM
I beg to differ. :D :D :D
The more my eye-sight deteriorates, the better my paint jobs look. lol lol lol
I 'm on your side too.  My entire miniature collection is a testament to mediocrity completed!
 ;D
Or perhaps it should be called "Complete Mediocrity!"
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Harry Faversham on March 19, 2023, 03:54:13 PM
I'm reduced to using on of them CSI magnifying glass/lamps, to see the little bastards these days. Herself opined...
"Wot's that all about yer div? You still can't see 'em when they're on the table!"
 >:D  >:(  >:D
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 19, 2023, 04:52:32 PM
"My old mate, after the funeral, when everyone did a runner to the boozer, I went back to the graveside and sent his favourite regiments to Valhalla with him." [slightly edited Harry... ;)]

Mr. Faversham's quote above gives me ideas not only for my own demise but some of my closest gaming friends.  For myself, I think I will have a select - and small - group of miniatures set aside with the proviso that they will travel with me either into the ground or the inferno as my 'personal honor guard into eternity'.  Of course, my preference is for a green burial if affordable which may present a challenge or three but someone can sneak back in later and bury them and cover with a good size rock - or even better, under a newly planted tree.  Then, years later, some of the youngest of gamers who knew me can come and sit under a tree and contemplate what lies within the roots - my old miniatures and my old remains.  Sounds like fun.  And see below for why there need to be daisies planted, too.

And here is a meaningful thought for us all and great reason to have your name over your remains:  It is said we die twice, once when we take our last breath and forever when the last person says our name out loud.  Maybe someone will come by and read our name aloud and we will live on a little longer.  So, maybe I'll fund a nice, durable bench to go under that tree with my name on it and this quote "He may be pushing daises but he's also still pushing tin".  :). I guess I will have to have added a carving of some toy soldiers on the bench for the uninitiated.  Well, perhaps "...tin soldiers", but still the carving (and a steam train, too, for my other hobby).

Hmm, and maybe this too: "It is considered great luck to read the words here aloud".  Wow, I really will live forever!  Or, at least until the sun goes super nova or extinction of humans or maybe just extinction of any human literacy, it could go that way.  And what with global warming/climate change, I think best to pick someplace above the 1,500' foot line but well below the tree line.  lol

And, yes, I hope to keep playing for as long as possible and further heartened by the descriptioins in this thread of people playing into their 90s. 
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Easy E on March 20, 2023, 02:21:54 PM
A timely thread, as I am reading through the book Being Mortal.  A thought provoking and read all of us aging gamers (and those with aging parents) should take a look at.

https://www.amazon.com/Being-Mortal-Medicine-What-Matters/dp/1250076226/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=being+mortal+book&qid=1679321934&sr=8-1

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/IMAGERENDERING_521856-T1/images/I/41Y5fSkqLBL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Michi on March 20, 2023, 02:36:51 PM
For myself, I think I will have a select - and small - group of miniatures set aside with the proviso that they will travel with me either into the ground or the inferno as my 'personal honor guard into eternity'. 

Epic!
Make sure that your coffin will be shaped like a longboat...  :)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Bloggard on March 20, 2023, 10:43:54 PM
That’s what we are! The “mega collection” generation. Like generation Z just with a miniature addiction :P

I’m in my 40s and ten year old kid has already been discussing plans for how to realise value of my collection once I’m gone. Proud of them in a way.

Jesus Christ.
Don't know whether to be admiring or alarmed for you !
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Tactalvanic on March 21, 2023, 07:34:59 PM
Jesus Christ.
Don't know whether to be admiring or alarmed for you !

He will be fine, don't worry, he has years yet before his stash has appreciated enough value for the kids to want to realise a return on it.   :D

But lets face it the stopping point is different for us all, and lets hope we can all keep doing it for far longer than we expect to!

Also miniature stuff, lets hope we can keep doing that for far longer than we expect to as well!!

Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 22, 2023, 02:34:15 PM
 lol lol lol

in response to Tactalvanic purposeful double intendre!   :-*
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: pauld on March 22, 2023, 03:28:24 PM
Late 60's baby boomer here so still have disposable income and was allowed to retire rather than die in harness.



I still want to buy - I do and love all the wonderful things I get

Carry on = big tick

I still want to play - I do but never found a playmate my age-ish/my type near me and I'm not a group person.  I don't want to travel for an hour each way for a game so solo is mainly the way I play.  Easy to lose impetus and prevaricate when playing yourself so end up fiddling around instead.  It seems I set up to play and then tear it all down again later without play as often as I play through a game.  I seem to have developed senior ADHD ;D

Carry on = a largish tick but I chastise myself for not doing more.

I still want to paint - well to be honest it's always been a bit of a chore to me as I paint to play rather than paint for painting's sake (see above). I do like the end result though and I feel obligated to play with painted toys.  The Lead Mountain is intimidating of course.

Carry on = yes, I'm going to have to.

I still want to buy rule sets - and do by the drove.  My tablet and bookshelves are full of them.  Love them, in a way they are my preferred form of reading.

Carry on = big tick

Through opportunity board games have become my main focus as it's easier to find people to play with and they are fantastic nowadays.  Wife also likes them and we with game with two other couples twice a week.  Downside is now I have a board game mountain too, but at least I don't have to paint them :) 

Will board games oust miniatures gaming = I think it's on the cards.

I will find it very hard to get shot of the little men and like others will most likely ask for a Viking Funeral surrounded by lead, plastic and paper.

First world problems, eh.  Aren't we the lucky ones.


Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: pauld on March 22, 2023, 03:29:43 PM
aah - another senior moment- deleted duplicate post

Nurse!
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: zemjw on March 22, 2023, 04:05:46 PM
Carry on = big tick
It seems I set up to play and then tear it all down again later without play as often as I play through a game.  I seem to have developed senior ADHD ;D

I have refined this process by realising I'm not going to play, so not bothering to set it up in the first place :( Somewhat frustrating, but gives me more time to paint the figures I'm never going to play with.

Regarding funeral rights, there are a couple of dwarfs that I would like to accompany me into the underworld, but I'm not sure how a lawyer would react to me putting that in my will ???
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Easy E on March 23, 2023, 02:25:05 PM
Dedicating a small time capsule and burying it someplace relevant sounds like an interesting option too.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Golgotha on March 23, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
Given that much of the consensus is why stop and or never stop...

A more pertinent question may well be; When to start miniature gaming?

I think we all need to make a commitment to bringing into the hobby younger players.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Leunstoelgeneraalbd on March 23, 2023, 04:48:55 PM
I have (for years) stated that growing older just means a growing difference between one's fysical and mental age. Only the last one is relevant. The body is 77 in two months, the eyes have artificial lenses after cataracts, I love to paint more than playing (although I do play sometimes) and with a tin mountain I simply cannot afford to stop ;-))). There certainly is no "general" stopping point. To parafrase Dr Johnson: a man (or in our time a woman !) who is tired of playing, is tired of life.
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: Khusru2 on April 01, 2023, 12:02:52 AM
When you can't role the dice & have no one to do it for you
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: ithoriel on April 01, 2023, 01:37:26 AM
When you can't role the dice & have no one to do it for you
There are plenty of dice rolling computer/ phone apps.  :)
Title: Re: What age is the 'stopping point' for miniatures gaming?
Post by: has.been on April 01, 2023, 07:03:04 AM
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When you can't role the dice & have no one to do it for you
The Emperor Trajan went one day to the Public Baths. There he recognized
an old soldier on his own, trying to clean his own back. 'Why not get a  servant
 to do that?' asked the Emperor,  'I have no money to pay for a servant Caesar'
 the veteran replied. Tragan gave him a gold coin.
The next day there was a crowd of 'Veterans' waiting for the Emperor.
'Why not get a servant to do that?' he asked them. 'We have no money to pay one'
they said...'Clean each other's backs then' said Trajan & walked on.
 lol lol lol
(There is ALWAYS a way)