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Title: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on October 28, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
I donīt know better where to post it, because itīs alternative interwar. So I post it here:

Last nightīs game was the first time we made it through all 24 turns until fuel ran low and we had to quit the fight.
Doc wanted to pilot a Brigand (the plane in the foreground, the other is a Coyote), thus I lent two planes to him. This is his "White Feather" flight from Navajo Nation:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1058.jpg)


Their opponents were my proud southerners from "Dixie Blue" flight, leader Jason Hambone and his wingman Fred "showstarter" Crawford had both been gathering experience in previous dogfights. I had a Brigand too and a Fury which proved to be very useful by Walter and Doc in previous games.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1057.jpg)


We started on opposing table ends. Scycrapers made obstacles all around and we got into a wild manoeuvring around the aerodrome in the centre.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1060.jpg)

(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1061.jpg)


Though we finally got into firing positions and gave lead to each other. Brigand pilot Evander Doughnut and Fury pilot Fred Crawford were equally quick on the trigger. We had to roll it out and Doc beat my 9 with an unbelievable 10...  :banghead:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1062.jpg)


Even worse: Docīs Coyoty could fire at my Brigand while I faced the wrong direction to fight back...  :rant:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1063.jpg)


(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1064.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1065.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1066.jpg)


My poor Jason Hambone swallowed lead by pounds...
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1067.jpg)


...and the brave Brigandīs wingspars got surgically severed. The pilot didnīt manage to bail out and I lost another valuable veteran.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1068.jpg)


Meanwhile the Fury and the Brigand exchanged lead as well. I even sunk two drill rockets into Docīs Brigandīs wings each.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1069.jpg)


We curved around for a while with me permanently tailing the crippled Brigand, but Doc couldnīt get his Coyote in a firing position. Regretfully I had lost three guns, all rockets and the remaining two guns got jammed. I could have fired at the Brigand each turn if not for those damned guns!  :banghead:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1070.jpg)


(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1071.jpg)

Turn 24 saw me pumping some more lead into the Brigandīs tail again, wiping out the gun turret, but the game was over.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Rome/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1072.jpg)

I had to fly home according to the rules and had to consider myself the looser as I had lost a plane and a pilot...  :bye:
Though fighting through 24 turns within three hours was a record for us!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 28, 2009, 08:49:48 PM
The best map they ever published for the game! And such lovely paintjobs on the models. Great report and sounds like you had great fun.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Operator5 on October 28, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
When Crimson Skies first came out, I was part of a group that played once a month. There were anywhere from 5 to 8 of us on the board, so to keep thinks simple, each pilot had one plane and no rockets. It was always two teams chosen randomly.

I typically flew the Valiant (I think that is what it was---.30 cal, fast and maneuverable).

IN one mammoth pick-up game at a convention we had 10 people. That game was memorable for me being the only pilot left on my side and avoiding 5 other planes for about half a dozen turns before we called it a draw. Two of the planes went down on my team due to pilot error (they flew into mountains).

Your planes look fantastic and thanks for posting this, it brought back great memories!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Ray Rivers on October 28, 2009, 09:09:54 PM
Way Kewl!

Never saw a game of Crimson Skies, so an eye opener for me.  Very nice.

And, of course, Michi, your painting is splendid!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Tom Reed on October 28, 2009, 09:13:19 PM
Those planes are beautiful.
I know a guy who made an in scale dirigible for the game. All of the engines and gun turrets were magnetic and could be pulled off when damaged or for storage. The thing was at least 3 feet long!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on October 28, 2009, 09:44:51 PM
Quote from: Tom Reed on October 28, 2009, 09:13:19 PM
I know a guy who made an in scale dirigible for the game. The thing was at least 3 feet long!

Now you know two:

Famous LZ-129 "Hindenburg"
(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep3.jpg)

(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep2.jpg)

(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep1.jpg)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 28, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
I had a cardboard Zep too, some 60cm long (it had a base made of the number of "Zep Bases" for the standard Zep Map). Some great games with that one, but it didnīt survive a move. Sadly, no pics of that one.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Phil_McCrackin on October 28, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
I've been in lust with Crimson Skies for years.  This is a beautiful action report, with beautiful planes.

I confess . . . . I keep wanting to play it with 28mm scale planes, over a 28mm scale "A very British (Or American) Civil War" game happening on the ground . . . . .
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: commissarmoody on October 29, 2009, 12:05:52 AM
Quote from: Phil_McCrackin on October 28, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
I've been in lust with Crimson Skies for years.  This is a beautiful action report, with beautiful planes.

I confess . . . . I keep wanting to play it with 28mm scale planes, over a 28mm scale "A very British (Or American) Civil War" game happening on the ground . . . . .

Oh!OH! I am so down with that!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Chairface on October 29, 2009, 12:44:38 AM
Man, beautiful looking minis! Just beautiful. I've been painting some Crimson Skies over the last little while and I feel like throwing them out now!  Poor imitations....  :(
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Crudeboy on October 29, 2009, 05:35:57 AM
Man, what a surprise to see something for Crimson Skies.

I confess I never actually got to play the original FASA game, only a few games of the later watered-down "clicky" version. I've always loved the setting and the aircraft designs.

But yes, gorgeous paintjob on those planes! The zepp is amazing as well.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on October 29, 2009, 06:01:21 AM
Quote from: Crudeboy on October 29, 2009, 05:35:57 AM
I never actually got to play the original FASA game

Do it, if you ever get the chance. There are worlds between the old and clicky version, although the models exact each other.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Dewbakuk on October 29, 2009, 09:42:54 AM
I introduced a couple of players to the FASA Crimson Skies a couple of weeks ago. Time to see if they fancy another game.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dijit on October 29, 2009, 10:46:13 AM
Wow - I too have neve seen Crimson Skies or really knew too much about it, but that looks great. The data sheets seem to be rather complicated though, how easy is it to pick up the rules?
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Operator5 on October 29, 2009, 11:48:48 AM
The data sheet is complicated only in that there can be a lot of boxes to cross off. The rules are fairly easy to learn. We taught players and we're playing a game within 10-15 minutes.

The real challenge is the pre-plotted movement. It's great fun trying to outwit your enemy.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Crudeboy on October 31, 2009, 07:22:01 AM
Well... as of today, I've got a copy of (FASA's) Crimson Skies headed my way.  :D

Let it begin.

Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Wirelizard on October 31, 2009, 07:45:42 AM
Quote from: Crudeboy on October 31, 2009, 07:22:01 AM
Well... as of today, I've got a copy of (FASA's) Crimson Skies headed my way.  :D

Is this still in print somewhere, or did you scare up a used copy?

(I was tempted by CS when it first came out, and being deep into things-pulpish now, am regretting not giving into temptation!)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Crudeboy on October 31, 2009, 05:16:38 PM
Lucky find on Ebay. It's been out of print for a while, but I'm sure something will turn up.

On a side note, it looks like if you've any passing familiarity with GIMP or Photoshop, you could fairly easily come up with new maps.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: undead_jon on November 01, 2009, 10:33:01 AM
Absolutely fantastic  :-* :-* :-*

Crimson Skies is one of my favourite games, I haven't played it in far too long, something your report has made me determined to change as soon as I am able.

For anyone looking for planes and supplements then Ral Partha (https://www.connectstores.com/ralpartha/sp_16722.html) have a load and Iron Wind Metals (http://ironwindmetals.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=14&osCsid=197b46a788514879bef45957f692d7ae) have a planes-a-plenty

It's a great game, so go get playing already  :D

J
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dijit on November 01, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
Anyone know where you can get the core rules?
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Lowtardog on November 01, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
I think Ral Partha Europe sells them
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Hawkeye on November 02, 2009, 08:57:52 PM
Just checked Ral Partha Europe, and there are three rulebooks/supplements listed on the website - any idea what the name of the core rules is? I had only ever heard vague things about this game before, but it looks very very cool! I might be tempted to get enough to play a starter game, and see where it goes from there!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 02, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Hawkeye on November 02, 2009, 08:57:52 PM
Just checked Ral Partha Europe, and there are three rulebooks/supplements listed on the website - any idea what the name of the core rules is? I had only ever heard vague things about this game before, but it looks very very cool! I might be tempted to get enough to play a starter game, and see where it goes from there!

Are you referring to this site: https://www.connectstores.com/ralpartha/sp_16722.html ?

Unfortunately, the core ruleset is not any of these. "Behind the Crimson Veil" is the best of those on offer, focusing on Sky Pirates of the Eastern Seaboard. Superb read, nicely illustrated, great (if a bit voluminous) scenarios.

The other three are not as good. "Pride of the Republic" is about Texas and stuff. Decent writing, interesting scenarios, relatively poor art (as compared to the splendid core rules and BtCV). "Blake Aviation Security" I only casually browsed, seemed okay. The "Aircraft Manual" features quite a number of aircraft, unfortunately many taking a serious power dive into the realm of stupid.

If you are looking for the original board game, this is it: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3855

I had a copy, but must have lost it over a move (or lent it out to someone and never got it back  >:(). Iīm still looking over rummage bins at shows hoping to find a still-wrapped copy. Could kick myself for not being more careful with my copy.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on November 03, 2009, 05:40:15 AM
Read more here: http://www.foxforcefive.nutz.de/cs/
Perhaps you can ask for the rules there too.
Does anybody know: Would it be against the law to copy a ruleset that is no longer edited?

http://k.webring.com/hub?ring=crimsonskies
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 03, 2009, 08:02:04 AM
Quote
Does anybody know: Would it be against the law to copy a ruleset that is no longer edited?

Yes. The works are protected for something like 75 years. Indefinately if someone maintains the license.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Modhail on November 03, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
Dewbakuk, the IP is once more in the hands of Jordan Weisman, one of the people behind the old FASA: http://www.smithandtinker.com/news/smith-and-tinker-acquires-fasa-ips.php (http://www.smithandtinker.com/news/smith-and-tinker-acquires-fasa-ips.php). So I guess it's still protected.
(It's been over 2 years now though. I'm worrying about when/if they'll ever get around to doing anything with it.... But, maybe they need to wait for Wizkid's boardgame licence to run out?)

If you can't find the rules you could check this blog (http://www.senselesspastimes.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=5) for an alternative.
It's a Canvas Eagles/Crimson Skies hybrid. I don't know how it handles, I haven't played it yet myself (Being one of the lucky b*stards with an original Crimson Skies set... :D)
I'd advise to stay away from the clicky rules, except as a source for cheap prepainted planes.
It's rare to find the Fasa rules online, in fact, at the moment I can only find one (http://cgi.ebay.com/CRIMSON-SKIES-A-GAME-OF-AERIAL-COMBAT_W0QQitemZ380173746269QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item58841f005d).

Good luck to all hunting down a copy! The game's worth it.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Hawkeye on November 03, 2009, 01:57:15 PM
Thanks, everyone, for more info on the rules - perhaps it's a good thing, as I'm still in the middle of my Old West project, and just at the start of my modern day gaming project. Those planes just look so nice, though, and the rules sound like a lot of fun!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dijit on November 03, 2009, 03:36:24 PM
Thanks for that, I'm going to give crimson eagles a try.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Super_Gibbon on November 03, 2009, 04:45:21 PM
Excellent paintjobs, especially the yellow! Would you mind spilling the beans on the technique you've used?
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on November 05, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
[quote author=Phil_McCrackin link=topic=14058.msg164724#msg164724 date=1256768482

I confess . . . . I keep wanting to play it with 28mm scale planes, over a 28mm scale "A very British (Or American) Civil War" game happening on the ground . . . . .
[/quote]

They did make a couple of larger scale aircraft, i think one of them was the Curtis Wright FURY .
They were in MUSEUM SCALE,but i dont know what scale that is ,but they must have been bigger
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on November 05, 2009, 01:03:06 PM

while trawling ebay last night i found this ,don't know if it's any use to you
regards
Dex

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CRIMSON-SKIES-a-game-of-Aerial-Combat-FASA-Boardgame_W0QQitemZ170402592853QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_Wargames_RL?hash=item27acc93855
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Modhail on November 05, 2009, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: dexter on November 05, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: Phil_McCrackin on October 28, 2009, 10:21:22 PM

I confess . . . . I keep wanting to play it with 28mm scale planes, over a 28mm scale "A very British (Or American) Civil War" game happening on the ground . . . . .

They did make a couple of larger scale aircraft, i think one of them was the Curtis Wright FURY .
They were in MUSEUM SCALE,but i dont know what scale that is ,but they must have been bigger

28mm scale Crimson Skies? That's madness! I once had plans for a 1/72nd version, and that alone would take nearly 4x6 meters of floorspace to play with a normal sized map...

I haven't seen those museum scales in the flesh, but from a comparison pic I saw, I'm guessing they're 1/72nd at most.
In which case there are more affordable alternatives, if you're willing to convert: (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Crimson%20Skies/1-72nd%20scale%20madness/HPIM3006.jpg)
Left one is based on a Corsair, the right one is a reversed 190 with extra wings from, I believe, a Hurricane (can't remember for sure, too long since I started on it...)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: El Grego on November 05, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Modhail, those scratchbuilds are nice   :D

Found this link:

http://members.fortunecity.com/phreke/cs/minisgallery.htm (http://members.fortunecity.com/phreke/cs/minisgallery.htm)

There are some nice pics of painted Crimson Skies planes there, and at the bottom of the page are some pics of the museum-scale stuff.  Looks to be about 1/144 scale.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 05, 2009, 02:25:10 PM
I believe they were 1/72nd
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Modhail on November 05, 2009, 03:16:40 PM
Thank you! (I really should get them finished one day....  ::))

Looking at the pics in the link you posted El Grego, it seems those museum scale models are indeed 1/72nd scale:
The Museum Devastator looks twice the length of the game scale one in the picture. Checking my conversion, based on a 1/72 Fw190, it's also twice the length of a game scale Devastator. With the real life Fw 190 being 29 ft. long, and the "real life" Devastator described as 26ft. long, this seems about right.

Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on November 05, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Super_Gibbon on November 03, 2009, 04:45:21 PM
Excellent paintjobs, especially the yellow! Would you mind spilling the beans on the technique you've used?

Thanks, but itīs just simple layering to blend the tones. The canopies are done in the usual gem painting wy.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on November 05, 2009, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Modhail on November 05, 2009, 03:16:40 PM


Looking at the pics in the link you posted El Grego, it seems those museum scale models are indeed 1/72nd scale:
The Museum Devastator looks twice the length of the game scale one in the picture. Checking my conversion, based on a 1/72 Fw190, it's also twice the length of a game scale Devastator. With the real life Fw 190 being 29 ft. long, and the "real life" Devastator described as 26ft. long, this seems about right.






Deep down part of me was hoping that they'd be bigger,especially for Ģ25
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on November 05, 2009, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: dexter on November 05, 2009, 08:35:13 PM

Deep down part of me was hoping that they'd be bigger,especially for Ģ25

The BIG advantage of games like Crimson Skies is that they are not limited to any scale. As long as the opposing planes are the same scale and fit into the hexagons, youīll be fine. Play it in 28mm with 1/48 planes or what ever you like!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: abhorsen950 on December 08, 2009, 07:35:48 PM
Brilliant really Brilliant
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Crudeboy on December 09, 2009, 07:33:07 PM
Speaking of which, there's currently a good portion of FASA CS sourcebooks on e-bay. Pretty much everything but Behind the Crimson Veil and the main rules.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: abhorsen950 on December 13, 2009, 07:15:20 PM
is this the Crimson Skies rules that your using?
http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=1286

Love to know
Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Modhail on December 13, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
Abhorsen950, the rules in your link are the more recent "clicky" rules from Wizkids.

Michi uses the old FASA rules : http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3855/crimson-skies (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3855/crimson-skies)
They're out of print so the only way to get them is by ebay or other trade. They're worth hunting down though.

Bye, Modhail
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: G. K. Zhukov on December 13, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
There are is also a 3D variant of the Crimson Skies rules (as both the original FASA and the later WizKids rules were 2D-based) built on the Canvas Eagles WWI aerial combat rules:

Crimson Eagles (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/crimsoneagles/)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Crudeboy on December 13, 2009, 11:08:20 PM
I've been meaning to check out Crimson Eagles. The pics of the games look pretty neat, and I love the zeppelin.

Noble Knight games has a copy of the FASA rules going for $70 currently.  http://www.nobleknight.com/searchresults.asp?search=crimson%20skies (http://www.nobleknight.com/searchresults.asp?search=crimson%20skies)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on December 14, 2009, 01:29:28 AM
Quote from: Crudeboy on December 13, 2009, 11:08:20 PM
I've been meaning to check out Crimson Eagles. The pics of the games look pretty neat, and I love the zeppelin.

Noble Knight games has a copy of the FASA rules going for $70 currently.  http://www.nobleknight.com/searchresults.asp?search=crimson%20skies (http://www.nobleknight.com/searchresults.asp?search=crimson%20skies)

Thats about the  going rate for the FASA  rules  theyre long out of print and much sort after  Was watching one recently on ebay it went for $50 but with postage it was $70
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Grimmnar on December 14, 2009, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: dexter on December 14, 2009, 01:29:28 AM
Thats about the  going rate for the FASA  rules  theyre long out of print and much sort after  Was watching one recently on ebay it went for $50 but with postage it was $70

LOL nah. Was just at the Fall In and there were 6 people selling their copies of the rules form $2 to $10 to $20 with a buttload of planes for the ride. I noticed cause there was so much interests just before i left for the con. Were they mint? Nope. Were any of them all beat up to hell including the $2 set? Nope. I picked up the one set to read over. If i decide against i will let the populace here know and resell them for what i paid for. Did i also try and speak to the sellers and play middle man for people here on LAF? Yeppers. But at the end of the day there weer none left that needed to be sold. :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on December 15, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
I've seen the clix based game being sold that cheaply . last year there was a boxful of aircraft( at least 15) +rules foe a tenner at one of the newark shows. But havent seen the Fasa box set for less than Ģ35 on its own.
Looks like you came across a bargain at Fall in
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Chairface on December 16, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from: Grimmnar on December 14, 2009, 07:57:28 AM
LOL nah. Was just at the Fall In and there were 6 people selling their copies of the rules form $2 to $10 to $20 with a buttload of planes for the ride. I noticed cause there was so much interests just before i left for the con. Were they mint? Nope. Were any of them all beat up to hell including the $2 set? Nope. I picked up the one set to read over. If i decide against i will let the populace here know and resell them for what i paid for. Did i also try and speak to the sellers and play middle man for people here on LAF? Yeppers. But at the end of the day there weer none left that needed to be sold. :-)

Grimm

I bought the $10 copy! Wish I had seen the $2 one.  ;)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Grimmnar on December 17, 2009, 05:12:07 AM
Quote from: Chairface on December 16, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
I bought the $10 copy! Wish I had seen the $2 one.  ;)

Mine, mine i saw. My precious.   :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: abhorsen950 on January 27, 2010, 07:19:30 PM
Love this.
Gonna buy some airfix plane kits and kit bash for some fighters.

Steve
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: dexter on January 28, 2010, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: abhorsen950 on January 27, 2010, 07:19:30 PM
Love this.
Gonna buy some airfix plane kits and kit bash for some fighters.

Steve

looking forward to seeing the results!

dex
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: abhorsen950 on January 28, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
Cheers dex get em up soon.
Might just build the planes the where there sposed to be and use the rules for a proper mish mash air combat game
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on February 15, 2011, 07:05:48 PM
Well, This is a pretty old thread, but I just today lost my virginity to this site. I havn't known of this untill today. I think I have found a new home, or atleast Nirvana.
BTW, I bought my boxed set of FASA rules 6 years ago on EBAY and w/ shipping it was well over $70-75.
I'd like to hear, or see how you made that L128.
I hane quite a few free paper models from www.currell.net. R101, R100 The Russian Dirigble "Giant" working on the Graf Zeppelin, The proposed but never built Vickers Trans oceanic cruise ship, but they are all a good deal smaller than half of that you show in your pix. I'd love to make one that big, but can't find anything good to start with.

BTW I mostly play the Clix ver., but love the FASA one also.

Additional BTW; Wieseman has said that Tinker and Smith aren't planning a new CS anytime soon, but he'd love an experienced Game company to come along and do one. check out www.montanaraiders.com  The kid who started the site, Grant, scored an intervieqw with Jordan back around Christmas last year. We all asked questions anf JW answered them. it was sorta kwel!

Later fellow Pb heads!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on February 15, 2011, 09:54:35 PM
Quote from: Parriah on February 15, 2011, 07:05:48 PM

I'd like to hear, or see how you made that L128.

Sorry, I havenīt any in progress photos. It was rather nice to build, although not easy and I was glad I have had some experience in paper modeling when I built it.
The model is from Schreiber, Germany.
http://www.amazon.com/Schreiber-Bogen-Airship-Hindenburg-D-LZ-Model/dp/3870295708
http://www.modellbauhobby.com/Kartonmodell/Luftschiff-Hindenburg-D-LZ-129-Schreiber-Bogen/Aue-Verlag/SB-570
http://www.toyspiele.de/Luftschiff-Zeppelin-Hindenburg-D-LZ-129-Schreiber-Modellbau-Bastelbogen

Quote from: Michi on October 28, 2009, 09:44:51 PM

(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep3.jpg)

(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep2.jpg)

(http://free.pages.at/odongo/Zep1.jpg)

Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on February 16, 2011, 04:34:50 PM
It looks a lot like the free ones I mentioned, but they don't come any where near as big as that one. Is that stock, or did you enlarge it in any fashion?

The lines where the sections go together look mostly exactly like the joins on the Currell ones.
I print those out from the site, glue stick them to poster papewr from Dollar General or Wal Mart and cut & paste

Great to get to know you. Since the Wiz Kids site went dark I have lost touch with almost everyone who plays CS. (I know WK is back up, but they don't have CS on it anymore, nor a forum that I can see.

Again great to get to know yall! :)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Michi on February 16, 2011, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: Parriah on February 16, 2011, 04:34:50 PM
It looks a lot like the free ones I mentioned, but they don't come any where near as big as that one. Is that stock, or did you enlarge it in any fashion?

The lines where the sections go together look mostly exactly like the joins on the Currell ones.

It came printed onto several sheets of stiff cardboard to be cut out and glued together section by section. It was at scale (1/2oo).
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: StorminWolf on March 11, 2011, 03:19:31 PM
Hi longtime CS Player, i also had some of th zeppelins from schreiber, they're much cheaper here ranging from 10 to 18 euros.
the 10 euro versions are easier to build.

sadly mine didn't survive an ex girlfriend, but i'm planning onto getting new ones and build an modify them again for some Crimson Skies fun.

The link of the producer:
http://www.schreiber-bogen.de/

Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on March 11, 2011, 05:22:33 PM
Hey Stormin' Wolf, Glad to know you. Meby we already know each other? I'm Parriah everywhere I knew a Woelf on the Wiz Kids site.
If not, try
www.montanaraiders.com.
Grant who runs the site is a good kid and his regular posters are nearly as CS crazy as I.
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: StorminWolf on March 12, 2011, 12:37:23 PM
never played the wizkids variant but gave mwda a try a long time ago.
Montanaraider i know off and already posted ther a introduction post.
so:
glad to meet and check you six Sir ;)
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on March 16, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
Clear skies!
Later fellow Pb heads!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on March 17, 2011, 06:52:22 PM
Hey, Michi,

The guys at www.montanaraiders.com wanted me to invite you personally to post all of your afteraction reports there too. They LOVED the paint jobs
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Parriah on March 17, 2011, 07:00:57 PM
Thanx for the Bogen link! That's exactly what I want! I been trying to expand the 1/700 currell paper models I got, but it don't work out very well!
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: StorminWolf on March 17, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
no probolem, allthoug atm i'm thinking of making a custom one out of plasticard and magnetized resinparst for the engines and weaponry...
well maybe a summer project.

sadly i can#t finde neither my zeppelinrules nor my moder warfare mod for crimson skies, based on ghq models, seems that i have to wright those again from mind :(

Also second the invitation to the montana raiders forum ^^
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: Snate56 on March 26, 2011, 05:35:22 AM
Has anyone thought about using Wings of war?



SteveN
Title: Re: Crimson Skies: Shootout over Manhattan
Post by: StorminWolf on March 26, 2011, 08:12:40 AM
why? it'll cost significantly more per modell and it would be prepainted (Yuck!)

years ago i made modification for cold war airplanes, for the use with ghq models, but i seem to have lost the rules