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Miniatures Adventure => Adventures in the Far East => Topic started by: ARKOUDAKI on September 25, 2023, 02:58:19 PM
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So I have been helping a talented 3D designer, Carl Haglund (Hokusa Designs), on a Japanese Samurai 28mm model project that he intends to release via a Kickstarter campaign later this year.
Carl sent me over some charging Ashigaru foot soldiers, and I printed them up as a test.
Overall, this looks to be a great range and I am looking forward to putting them together...but time is short this week so they will have to wait.
In the meantime, enjoy the photos.
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Been following this with interest for months now; looking forward to the campaign. Carl does great work. When I saw his previews I decided not to proceed with my own samurai project as they would just overlap.
Curious as to what kind of resin you've used here- its quite dark? I've used craftsman resin for printing master figures, but I do worry about it being strong enough for use for wargame figures on the table.
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Yes, it looks like a really promising new range, one where you can print out loads of rank and file!
As for the resin, I use a cocktail mix of Siraya Tech Navy Grey and their Tenacious (80-20 mix) and it works really well. Since starting in 3D I have tried a lot of resins, and some are really bad, claiming to be 'ABS like' but being really brittle in reality....but this mix works well, yields great definition and has a lot of durability.
I will make weapons like long spears and such using resin spear tips with brass rod, and Carl has done these for this range too...they are in the container on the photos but underneath the sashimonos....but will get made soon! ;D
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Excellent prints, look forward to seeing more 8)
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Just to give you an idea of what they will look like, here is a 3D render of them as a group, Ashigaru charging with command. Just bare in mind this is an older photo and the models are very much a WIP. 🙂
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Looking forward to seeing those prints assembled.
A thing I encountered in my experiments was the thickness of the rim of the Jingasa. If it tapers to a point (which, in-scale, it pretty much would) the rim can get so thin that it fails to print properly. It will print better if given a little thickness, which is not quite right for the look of things, but is maybe a necessary concession to the printing gods (and casting gods too I suppose). Pic for illustration below, hopefully it's self-explanatory.
So my question is- how to the jingasa come out on these prints? From what I can tell they look fine.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHcmq5v7VniCqAc6VW5pF2bfsfGWlCDSgqvo4NsRD3qd5GWWys51plaHT_e8qSlTtcxKDvY4FOGXoOcsiRq8-FMiNwFcSlj5ZBNos_TJrWiFSzYK1BM=w2400)
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I like them very much! Looking forward to see more pictures :)
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@clibinarium
The conical hats printed really well, with no problem at all. The key to do such shapes is how you orient them. On these, the heads are tilted back, so the neck curtain prints first and gives a good base and then a few very thin supports on the back edge of the conical shaped hats creates a really good rim, with no defects at all. So all good.
Here is a photo from MS 3D Builder of the head below on its own and with supports.
The designer has made a lot of different head variants, so you will be able to create a lot of variety in your units.
As you know, Samurai armor has a lot of hanging bits, and yet these are extremely well done. The initial supports were actually a bit too many, and the designer is working on that. That said, the scale and detail of everything is excellent. The joy of a good 3D printer is that you can recreate a lot of detail, and the armor comes out looking really good. This is just something you can't do in 2D plastic injection or metal mould processes.
I am looking forward to printing out the command unit and more bits and pieces this weekend! More photos to follow
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Thanks for that. I was sure Carl would have worked it out, but I don't want to bombard him with questions, as I am sure he's getting a lot from excited prospective backers.
I'll have to try some of the Tenacious stuff, though I am not sure my printer would handle it well; I have a Photon 2 DLP, and it can be a little sensitive to small changes. . Just out of idle curiosity- what are you printing on and what layer thickness do you use?
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@clibinarium
Yes, Carl does have a lot on his plate, with the Star Wars Patreon and working on this big Samurai project. Hence, why I am helping him on out. He is such a nice guy it is hard not to want to help him.
As for the ST Navy Grey and Tenacious cocktail, with a 2K Photon 2 DLP it may not be ideal, as the Navy Grey tends to cure more while it prints...so your exposure times would be long. I put away my old Photon ages ago and first replaced it with a PSM4K, and then added an Elegoo Mars 3. I have to say that both are great printers but I still yearn for better resolution. That said, while the PSM4K is great, I have also stopped using it, as the Mars 3 is just so easy to run, and has a slightly bigger build plate.
My next goal is to get into FDM....as there is a lot of scenery items and cosplay stuff for my son that I want to make. This 3D stuff is a disease! lol
More photos coming, as I just printed up some more of Hokusa's upcoming Samurai models...so watch this space! :D
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Another test run of Hokusa's upcoming Samurai range. This time around the charging Ashigaru command and a Daimyo leader, with a bunch of accessories (don't pay attention to those muskets, they are for my Nap project! lol).
Another successful print run, despite my being lazy and not stirring the resin more, as it had been sitting a few days. Hence, any light grey marks are down to me. All feedback sent back to the designer for revision. The quality of the models is really good and I continue to eagerly await the KS being ready to go!
The first three photos are of the latest Ashigaru/Samurai prints fresh off the assembly line, still a little wet from the ultrasonic clean I give all my 3D prints after cleaning with IPA baths and curing. I like to do what I can to remove all those tiny bits that appear in digital photos! o_o
The last photo is after the latest print run is all dry. Hoping to find time to put all of these Ashigaru models together and primed...but alas, work beckons this week so it will have to wait until next weekend...
So watch this space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! More models are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Looking great 8)
Is your last ultrasonic clean in water, IPA, or something else?
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Well with the resin I use - Siraya Tech Navy Grey + Tenacious (80-20 cocktail) - when prints are off the printer, a bath of recycled and cleaned 100% IPA for just 60 secs (don't over clean or cure ST resins)...then air dry a bit on towel...then into boiling hot water for a few minutes...then remove the supports with a sharp No 11 blade, gently cutting where needed to reduce post clean-up time....then back on to towel to dry...then after dry, into a fresh 100% IPA for a final clean....toothbrush scrub with IPA if and where needed (shiny bits)...then air dry again on towel....only once fully dry, into my high tech curing device for 60 secs each side (these ST resins don't need much curing time, as if you do overcure them, they get brittle like other normal resins)....and then, into a freshwater bath in the ultrasonic for 2 cycles...then out of the water and left to air dry on a cloth towel.
Here are some pics to show you my 'high tech' set-up.... lol
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Thanks for your description, I do similar with my Hi Tech set up, except I watercure (about 3 minutes cure for Sunlu ABS resin, 28mm) and no ultrasonic.
My Hi Tech set up is an old biscuit tin lined with LEDs and baking foil, with a glass bowl of water in it. lol
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So aside from 'How to 3D tech'....what do you people think about this forthcoming 3D Samurai range. Help make this a better range with your comments and suggestions (the constructive types please! ;D)
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So I had a little more time to clean up the models, and I must say these are looking really good. Still more work to do on these but in my opinion the potential is clearly there.
Let me know what you think....
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Some new Hokusa 3D Designs Workshop Teppo Ashigaru test models just put on my 3D printer....in 6 hours I will see the results...and then hopefully share with you all.
In the meantime, this is what they will look like....more photos of the actual models to come...so watch this space!
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A quick update on the Ashigaru Teppo models by Hokusa 3D Designs Workshop for their upcoming Kickstarter campaign. Not the best photos - my phone camera isn't performing well of late - but gives you an idea of the quality of the models. More good quality photos to come. 🙂
Let's hear your comments, especially if you are interested in supporting this upcoming Kickstarter, as without enough customers it won't be a viable reality.
PS Also an updated version of the Daimyo command figure....he looks really good!
PSS Just to be clear, I have no financial involvement in this project...just always want top quality models to support my massive collections (the plastic and metal mountains...followed by my growing 3D printed resin mountain). Also, Carl at Hokusa does great models, so want to support his efforts. 😉
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Another update....I cleaned up the Hokusa 3D Designs Workshop Ashigaru Teppo troops and put them together. It doesn't take long, even with the modular versions. The models are really nice, with great detail and easy to print.
Again, not my best photos but you get the idea. Enjoy!!!!!!!
Next up, revised charging Ashigaru troops with yari's and such....revised command....and some Ashigaru Archers!!!!!! Oh, and I understand a set of fighting Samurai are also in the works.
So watch this space!
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Another update on the forthcoming 3D Samurai range from Hokusa 3D Designs Workshop!
Following all the constructive feedback, the charging Ashigaru models have been revised: updated faces with more character, thinner neck curtains; tighter grips on the weapons and small diameter weapons; puddle bases for the charging poses; and improved supports for ease of printing with minimal damage in the process.
Overall I think the revised charging Ashigaru models look really great...and they were good before...so even better for all of us.
Take a look at the photos and share your thoughts. After all, this range will be done via Kickstarter, and therefore your support is needed to make this a reality.
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And some earlier command models...just to give you an idea of what will be coming and what they look liked all primed up...sadly no time to paint of late...
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So a quick mini-update of the forthcoming 3D Samurai range from Hokusa 3D Designs Workshop. This time I received some of the new Yumi (Archers) Ashigaru. I have been pushing the designer to be innovative and light on the supports but it didn't go so well, as most of the prints fell out of their supports and into the vat of resin. I haven't had a print fail in ages but it does happen. Trust me, it won't happen on the final version of these wonderful looking models.
So instead of 8 Yumi (Archers) I have just 3 to show off. A full set of 8 models plus a some suitable command models will be available in the New Year.....just in time to go with the new 'Shogun' TV series!
Enjoy and please feel free to offer your constructive comments and thoughts.
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Okay, is anyone interested in this upcoming range of Samurai....as without customer support it won't be a successful Kickstarter. On the Samurai Wars FB page people are really excited about it all. Just wondering if this forum still has the reach and depth is use to? Not dissing just wondering if people/tech has moved on? :?
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Not interested I’m afraid. Got too many Perrys to finish off.
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The model look very nice but it is not a period I am really big into; if I had an interest beyond Ronin sized games I think I would seriously consider backing it. As it is, I already have too much to paint for Ronin.
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Got too many Perrys to finish off.
I share your pain James! Given what I have seen thus far from Hokusa, I might sell off a lot of Perry Samurai stash!~
The model look very nice but it is not a period I am really big into
I am trying to get the designer to do some Akira Kurosawa themes models, like Seven Samurai, Jojimbo, Ran.....those might be more to your liking.
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I would be interested, as I like what I‘ve seen so far.
But I have to admit it would depend on the option of getting physical models.
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I'm definitely keeping an eye on this project. Everything I'm seeing looks great (I mentioned on a Facebook post the Yumi may need to be made thicker for gaming and resin brittleness purposes).
How do the 100% scaled prints match up to other manufacturers offerings? Obviously we can rescale as needed to match in a slicer program, but I'm curious what the default scale will be for drop, slice, and printing.
Is the designer accepting additional testers for printing and support feedback? I have access to a few machines if so (Saturn 2 8K, Photon Mono 4K, and a few others).
~iPaint
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Obviously we can rescale as needed to match in a slicer program, but I'm curious what the default scale will be for drop, slice, and printing.
The models are scaled to fit the Perry Samurai range.
Is the designer accepting additional testers for printing and support feedback?
Thanks for the offer but everything is taken care of. ;)
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Ask Hokusa for a free STL preview for the public lol
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Ask Hokusa for a free STL preview for the public
The photos above show you what the general Hokusa 3D Samurai KS will look like....apparently it will launch sometime in Feb 2024! So watch this space! Better yet, watch the Hokusa FB group site https://www.facebook.com/groups/368530354826314
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Well some of you will remember all the 28mm Samurai test prints I made and posted WIP photos up here....well, the long awaited Kickstarter is almost here!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/131916301/warfare-during-the-sengoku-jidai-part-1?fbclid=IwAR3U9TkHlZU14aGgbf0gJv872eTB6EX_6GK14FE9S06UO6_veY3vUIsSt88
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Just to let everyone know for this first KS there will be four CORE sets of Ashigaru: charging, defending, yumi (archers), and teppo (gunmen). Each set will contain 12 core models, 1-3 command, and also modular models that allows you to kitbash whatever you want! In addition, you will also get a Daimyo pack of command models. And of course there will also be both round and square bases included. So a heck of a lot of models on offer...and that's not including all the possible stretch goals!
Hopefully on Wednesday 6 March I will be able post up a link to the Hokusa webstore where you will be able to download a FREE test model.
The actual KS should go live this Saturday 9 March 2024, and info will be provided beforehand. There will be a special 'Early Bird' price deal offered. So please continue to follow the KS, and get ready to build your Samurai army!
Please don't forget to follow https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/131916301/warfare-during-the-sengoku-jidai-part-1?fbclid=IwAR1ilW9ntI-vqQjmtclw6o2sQEMYFfUCKEE7gALsbQkcsnMZX8-EKqBQKY4
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I am interested in this KS but my plan is for 15mm. Has anyone test printed in 15mm to see how well they scale?