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Title: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: argsilverson on November 20, 2009, 10:42:07 AM: I saw them on TMP today:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=184636

and really they have a VSF look:
http://privateerpress.com/files/products/Winter-Guard-Rifle-Corps.png
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 20, 2009, 10:48:21 AM: Don't really work for VSF for me. Too fantasy Soviet rather than Tsarist for my taste.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Malamute on November 20, 2009, 10:52:05 AM: Quote from: Dewbakuk on November 20, 2009, 10:48:21 AM
Don't really work for VSF for me. Too fantasy Soviet rather than Tsarist for my taste.

Yep, sorry Argsilverson I have to agree with Dewy.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Chairface on November 20, 2009, 12:20:58 PM: I like everything except the shoulder pads.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: argsilverson on November 20, 2009, 12:22:46 PM: Quote from: Chairface on November 20, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
I like everything except the shoulder pads.

a very good point!
the heads are quite tsarist to my view
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Bullshott on November 20, 2009, 01:45:55 PM: If it wasn't for the shoulder pads :( they would be suitable for several VSF amies with a head change.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Chairface on November 20, 2009, 03:10:51 PM: Quote from: Bullshott on November 20, 2009, 01:45:55 PM
If it wasn't for the shoulder pads :( they would be suitable for several VSF amies with a head change.

Damn! You're right! I've been looking for great coat wearing minis for a conversion, and these would have been perfect.

(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/Winter-Guard-Rifle-Corps.png)

I really like the guns.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Sterling Moose on November 20, 2009, 03:14:37 PM: Might go well with Copplestones Neo Soviets. Too Sci-Fi for me (despite the archaic looking weapons).
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: former user on November 20, 2009, 03:48:15 PM: yep

shoulder pads are really out
look too GW for me, sorry - otherwise quite nice
I think they lack the historical touch for VSF

maybe the shoulderpads are removable?
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Mors on November 20, 2009, 04:08:09 PM: I really like those figures but I agree the shoulder pads are to much like GW space marines, I might get them anyway as a special unit for my planned Russian force, although I am in a quandry as to whose figures to base the army on - Askaris central asia russians, Outposts 1877 range or one of the boxer risings ranges. Not only that ,Redoubt are shortly releaseing 1905 Russians.

Cheers Mors
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Schogun on November 20, 2009, 04:50:25 PM: They'll be much bigger than 28mm, too, if that's a concern.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: brigadegames on November 20, 2009, 05:18:31 PM: On a similar note -

I did just new molds for what I believe are the new Parroom Station Victorian Russian troops and command. I should be test casting these this weekend and as soon as I get a release date from Bob Charrette I will let you know.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Mors on November 20, 2009, 05:26:50 PM: Ohh Lon. Thats gonna make me rethink!! As I have the Brits ,Prussian ,Japanese ,and French Parroom miniatures.....let alone most of the Martians and personalities I expect your Russians would jump to the top of the list. Please let us know asap as I was going to place a order in the next few weeks!
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 20, 2009, 05:31:18 PM: Quote from: brigadegames on November 20, 2009, 05:18:31 PM
On a similar note -

I did just new molds for what I believe are the new Parroom Station Victorian Russian troops and command. I should be test casting these this weekend and as soon as I get a release date from Bob Charrette I will let you know.

Lon, will the Parroom Brits with breathing masks be re-released? I think Bob said he was re-sculpting them.

Thanks.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on November 20, 2009, 06:20:26 PM: I really like these, I agree with Argsilverson, perfect for VSF. I can't see anything Soviet about them at all. I don't mind the shoulder pads that much either.

As for being too GW, that's sometimes a good thing. GW imagery is very dark and gothic so some of it fits in well with VSF.

The height thing would seem to be the only problem.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: former user on November 20, 2009, 08:49:42 PM: maybe they can be combined with Vostroyans
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Red Orc on November 20, 2009, 08:57:26 PM: I was going to get some of these guys' brethren, the 'Widowmakers', for VSF Russians. The Widowmakers are snipers that arguably look even more Vostroyan; but I didn't know about these guys with the rifles, thought the Winter Guard only came with axes and hand cannons.

The size issue could well be a problem for VSF, it's a good point. I think these guys would probably tower a long way over my Ironclad British line infantry.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 20, 2009, 11:23:25 PM: Quote
thought the Winter Guard only came with axes and hand cannons.

They do, this is the Winterguard Rifle Corps, new unit that's not out yet.
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: fastolfrus on November 20, 2009, 11:33:04 PM: I'm doubtful about the shoulder pads - they just don't look Victorian to me.
Epaulettes perhaps (and probably not on Russians), but not these.

Makes them look more like American football players than Russians.

I would visualise the coat being more like a cossack style, with loops on the front but plain shoulders, possibly a tall collar.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1352516317313&id=15a21384180ea64f4e828003a132b787
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Tacgnol on November 21, 2009, 12:04:15 AM: To be fair, these guys' shoulderpads are quite subtle by Warmachine standards! Although I've seen loads of pictures of WM minis I've seen few in the flesh, and none next to other companies' lines. How much bigger than 28mm are we talking here?
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 21, 2009, 08:08:56 AM: They're 32mm approx. Same size as Wyrd if you've seen those.

If you want furry hatted, great coat russians, these are still best (imho), you could always give them funky guns.

(http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/bu10.jpg)
Title: Re: potential VSF Russians?
Post by: Hat Guy on November 23, 2009, 12:10:46 AM: From experience, (I have a pretty decent Khador army), Privateer Press figures are closer to 30mm most of the time, making them hard to match with figures from other ranges.