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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: former user on December 14, 2009, 07:27:39 PM

Title: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: former user on December 14, 2009, 07:27:39 PM
As many of us I presume, I am too a fan of multi-barreled Gatling type firearms.
I always found it odd not to be able to use them in WW1 and after.
Luckily, I stumbled upon the 37mm Hotchkiss revolver cannon, which was in use as a deck cannon and retired prior to WWI.
Now imagine my excitement when I found this one:
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/29007475@N08/3126582130/sizes/l/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3126582130_40154d83ee.jpg)

here is the text that accompanies it:
Letter on reverse (see next picture) with postage cancelled 2.12.15.

Commercial postcard, meaning the sender probably isn't in the picture. The men depicted above are from an unidentified Landsturm battalion. Indicators on the postcard's reverse, suggest the sender is from a reserve infantry regiment (12?).

Théâtre du Nord is a theatre located on the Grand Place de Lille in France. The building was erected in 1717, two years after the death of Louis XIV who had conquered the city in 1667. It then served as a garrison for the city guard, whose first mission was to establish order.

The Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon, a revolving barrel machine gun invented in 1872 by Benjamin B. Hotchkiss (1826-1885), founder of Hotchkiss et Cie.

It was a built-up, rifled, rapid-fire gun of oil-tempered steel, having a rectangular breech-block which moved in a mortise cut completely through the jacket. It was designed to be light enough to travel with cavalry, and had an effective range beyond that of rifled small-arms.

The revolving-cannon had five 37 mm barrels, and was capable of firing 43 rounds per minute with an accuracy range of 2,000 yards (1,800 m). Each feed magazine held 10 rounds and weighed approximately 18 pounds (8 kg).

The cannon was accompanied by a horse-drawn ammunition limber, which held 110 rounds plus six loaded magazines, totaling 170 rounds.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: commissarmoody on December 14, 2009, 07:36:29 PM
I want one
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: former user on December 14, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
I also knew that Lettow-Vorbeck had a battery of revolver cannon, but did not know it was this one
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Bundesarchiv_Bild_105-DOA0152%2C_Deutsch-Ostafrika%2CAn_der_Revolverkanone.jpg)

now I can use my dinosaur drawn revolver cannon in a steampunk BoB scenario!
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Helen on December 14, 2009, 08:48:26 PM
Great photos, thank you.

Helen
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Plynkes on December 14, 2009, 09:11:27 PM
I want one

I already got two!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Hotchkiss2.jpg)

 :) :)
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: former user on December 14, 2009, 09:25:46 PM
who made them?
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Plynkes on December 15, 2009, 12:15:19 AM
I got them from Richard Houston, so I presume they came from the range of colonial guns he did that used to be sold by The London War Room. As that outfit has closed I figure the guns are no longer available (I haven't heard of anyone else picking them up), but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: former user on December 15, 2009, 12:25:26 AM
pity.
now I'll have to make some myself...
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Plynkes on December 15, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
Yes, it is a real pity. Those Houston ranges had just about every colonial gun a gunboat nut could want (on naval mounts plus some on wheeled carriages), not to mention dozens of cool cast ship fittings (doors, hatches, vents, anchors, you name it) that were a scratch-builder's dream.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: archangel1 on December 15, 2009, 04:35:36 AM
Old Glory 25's carries the Houston guns and they list the Hotchkiss.

http://oldglory25s.com/index.php?cat_id=97&catname='Houston 25mm Colonial Artillery and Colonial Wagons'
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: HerbyF on December 15, 2009, 05:57:46 AM
Just looked. Unfortunately most of the machine guns in cluding the Hotchkiss are n/a. I am not sure just what guns are available but riveresco does a number of colonial era guns with both carrage 7 navel mounts.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: archangel1 on December 15, 2009, 06:13:10 AM
HerbyF, I think you're reading it wrong.  The description of the mini is N/A, not the actual model, as far as I can tell.  Just email Theresa and ask.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: former user on December 15, 2009, 08:05:38 AM
the 3 lb quickfiring Hotchkiss gun is something else. not the 1lb revolver cannon.
But thanks for the link, mybe they have the moulds
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Plynkes on December 15, 2009, 09:01:19 AM
Interesting. I didn't know about this. Appears to be just a fraction of the original range though, unfortunately. I recall there being lots more than this. Things are still better than I thought they were, though.
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: TadPortly on December 15, 2009, 09:18:57 AM
Here is a ground mounted version (looks like the one in the originalpicture), this one served in the US Army in 1890:

(http://www.russellmeansfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/hotchkiss-37mm_revolving_canon.jpg)
Title: Re: is this interesting? 37 mm Hotchkiss revolving cannon
Post by: Aaron on December 15, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
My guess is that either Old Glory hasn't had a chance to list everything yet or some of the molds were shot and they haven't had a chance to re-make them. As archangel1 says a quick email to teresa will sort it out.