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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Red Orc on January 03, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
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It is January 3rd, 1890; Western Europe, North Africa, the Caribbean and North America are still reeling from the devastating tidal waves that struck Atlantic coasts on the morning of January 1st.
Reports are coming in, relayed by balloon expeditions from several countries, that the cause of the tidal-wave has been the sudden appearance in the North Atlantic of a large landmass. There is speculation that this is in reality the 'lost' continent of Atlantis. Various nations - among them Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, The Netherlands, Denmark, the Ottoman Empire, Greece, Egypt, the USA and Brazil - have all staked a claim to Atlantean territory and are fitting out expeditions to explore it. It is likely that in a few days, the first of these expeditions will begin to arrive.
Whether your faction is engaged in conquest, looting, scientific exploration, or all three, adventure and excitement await in the 'lost' continent - now so spectacularly found once again!
Please register your interest in the Atlantis campaign by leaving a message below - listing:
1 - Username, and name and numbers of the gaming group you represent, if applicable;
2 - factions you represent;
3 - type of games you will be playing (fleet-level actions, RPG/party-type games, aeronef combat etc).
Good luck one and all!
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I'm down for this...
1 - Jimbibbly, some other coves who will probably go for it at some point
2 - Japan (and later Italy)
3 - Gaslight style games ie; several units and bits of steamy goodness
How long is it going to run for?
cheers
James
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1 - Me, and roughly 2-3 others (depends on how long it runs)
2 - Great Britain, France, generic 'natives' and Germany (ish. Not much for them)
3 - Squad, Company and Battalion level, depending on what I feel like playing at the time...
Do we have a particular campaign rules? I assume these will be posted in a separate thread?
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I's going to run until I get sick/go mad/everyone leaves/other. I don't know to be honest.
There will be campaign rules; but these will be fairly loose to start with. The main point is that you can start organising games with your local group. Campaign 'points' are accrued by playing games. That's the most important thing.
Conceptually at least, Answer and Jim, your groups are starting at opposite sides of Atlantis. Answer, your group will be battling each other for control of the eastern coastlands, Jim, yours are landing on the western coasts*. Further info will follow (a map, some choices about how to run your part of the campaign).
*unless you've confused me and in fact you're in the same group.
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*unless you've confused me and in fact you're in the same group.
We're not, unless there's some great conspiracy going on here...
I'll stress this now; my 'group' will not get that many games in. perhaps 4 or 5 at most (we might surprise you, but I doubt it). There are only 4 of us, after all. And one lives in Canterbury...
Oh, I forgot to mention, we’ve some anarchists somewhere, too...
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I'm up for this too.
Please register your interest in the Atlantis campaign by leaving a message below - listing:
1 - Bullshott + probably some of the usual British BLAM suspects (I see jimbibbly has laready posted here)
2 - United States (Miskatonic University expedition + US marines support). Can also supply British, French, Prussian & Japanese as required)
3 - Gaslight style games ie; several units and bits of steamy goodness (as per jimbibbly)
Can we have some background on Atlantis so that we are all playing with similar terrain, etc. - i.e. flora, fauna, archiectural style of lost citis, etc. (I'll leave anyone/anything else that populates Atlantis down to individual gaming groups ;)
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The way it will work is that each group will be fighting over a different region of Atlantis, and will use its own terain as appropriate.
The group in the south-east might be mostly fighting in jungles with a bit of desert (this is the bit that's opposite west Africa, and also one of the most the most densely settled), and they'd be using jungley and deserty terrain (though there are also some mountains); in the north there are more forests, large grassland/prairie/steppe plains, and some large rivers with wide floodplains - so more forests, open terrain/rolling green hills, and plenty of marshland. In every region there are settlements, villages, towns, cities, temples... often at naturally defensible points or bridges, so these might be a focus for battles or adventures.
Architecture varies widely across the continent (as with most continents) - the semi-nomadic barbarians of the north-western fjordlands live in a style very different from the settled farmers of the south-east with their palace-cities. To say nothing of the Morlocks, the Deep Ones or the Martians and Venusians who made Atlantis their home before the Great Catastrophe 12,000 years ago/last week (depending on your point of view).
If it all comes together properly, each group can pick those environments that they like/have most terrain for. This should mean that there is the minimum of fuss and necessity to build new terrain (though if you want to, hell yeah, I'd love to see it). Atlantis is a big place and should be able to accommodate everything from deserts to snowscapes via forests and swamps quite easily, from settlements formed of simple wooden huts or collections of skin tents, to great marble cities, sinister tower-complexes on crags, cave-dwellings, vast temples, whatever you like (or have the terrain for).
Bullshot, if you'll be playing with jimbibbly (if you'll excuse the expression), then you too will be in the west of Atlantis (nice to see the Miskatonic University sending some scholars along, they might have some strange fortellings of events 40 years in the future...). I'll be sending preliminary findings about the precise coastal configurations, local fauna, climate etc for each region as soon as I collate the aeronef reports.
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I'm in but you'll have to bear with me on the 1, 2 and 3 bit as I'm still gathering my thoughts. I'll probably be running fun skirmish levels games based on 'To Be Continued By GASLIGHT'.
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Wel, with myself, jimbibbly and Thunderchicken interested in involved, I guess its only a matter of time before more of the BLAM GASLIGHT regulars join in. Malamute? Dean?
I will also work on a couple of guys in my neck of the woods.
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Dean?
I'm perfectly happy to play some games, although local opponents are a little short right now. Closest VSF BLAMer would be TC (that I know of), so we could arrange a game or two I suspect.
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Its times like this that I wish I didn't live in the arse end of nowhere with no other gamers in the vicinity. >:(
Sounds like a good campaign, hope you all have fun with it.
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I'm perfectly happy to play some games, although local opponents are a little short right now. Closest VSF BLAMer would be TC (that I know of), so we could arrange a game or two I suspect.
Agreed, although I do have JimBibbly around the corner. :)
Not sure how much I can commit to the campaign right now, its all hands to the pump with work during the first quarter of the year, so time is precious. :(
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Im still up for it
1) Mors and Mors junior if I can drag him off his xbox thingy.
2) Japan , German Colonial, Greek ( with a bit of work) , Belgium ( technically King Leopolds private force ) , Mad/ Evil Scientist. I also have some sea devils which could pass off as Atlantis inhabitants if allowed.
3) Small Gaslight company actions.
Mors
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Ooh how exciting!
Is anyone from Sydney getting involved?
I don't have anything prepared really but I'll give it a shot. If all else fails I'll play with my self (always does the trick ;))
1. Christian
2. British
3. Small skirmish games vis a vis Legends/Great War & even better .45 Adventures/Chain Reaction in 28mm
This should be... interesting. I've got my jungle terrain sorted though. I don't have any opponents yet. What the heck is there to fight on Atlantis aside from other human forces?
Some sort of amphibian creatures I imagine?
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Right: everyone will over the next day or so be getting PMs with further (secret) info (as your ships actually hove into view of the Atlantean costs), but for the moment, here's some specific housekeeping.
Thunderchicken, Dewbakuk, if you're in with the other Gaslight Blammers, then, you too will soon be arriving on the west coast. It's taking a few days to get all the naval forces in the area... you will be given maps and asked to choose suitable landing points soon.
Jollybob, are there no VSFers in 'almost Scotland' that you can cajole into playing a few games? Given the numbers of Geordies, Cumbrians and Scots on the forums, can you not find someone within 25 miles or so?
Malamute, you don't have to commit to playing a certain number of games, though obviously the point is to play some; many a colonial army turned up on some foreign shore, sat on a beach, went "ho hum" then went home again without doing much. If you might have time to play some games, I'd say, go for it, even if your particular force doesn't manage to accomplish much.
Mors, Mors Junior, excellent news - yes Sea Devils are allowed, the seas, lakes and rivers of Atlantis are home to amphibious reptilian types (Lizard Men, Deep Ones or any such similar creature depending on the game you're using). You will be landing on the northern coastal area, I think.
Christian, you'll be landing your forces in the south of the continent; I really hope you do get some other Sydney players involved, or you could be involved in the least problematic colonial adventure ever, due to there only being token opposition. As for the inhabitants of Atlantis, there are, aside from the human Atlanteans, also 3 indigenous non-human races, and Martians and Venusians who were on the Lost Continent before it was lost, as well as the representatives of potentially 8 or more earth-nations and some groups of adventurers who are maybe just out for their own ends...
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Jollybob, are there no VSFers in 'almost Scotland' that you can cajole into playing a few games? Given the numbers of Geordies, Cumbrians and Scots on the forums, can you not find someone within 25 miles or so?
Sorry mate. Those gamers that I know of personally are a pack of... well... family site and all that, so I won't say it. And they never progressed beyond Codex 40,000 anyway.
The only other two that I know are more into painting than playing anyway (I'm much the same to be honest), and have very small children and therefore no free time. There may be a few others scattered about, but frankly, even a 25 mile journey could take the best part of a day at the moment.
I shall however watch the results come in with interest, and offer unwanted advice as I see fit. :D
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;)
All unwanted advice gratefully received. And it's a good point about the snow. Once the travelling season starts again, and if you find anyone to play with who isn't a twonk, and if you want a game anyway instead of just painting... maybe you could sign up then and arrive as re-inforcements for someone. In the meantime, peruse away and offer any 'helpful' advice you see fit.
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You might want to have some deep interior areas of the continent where Atlanteans may emerge from... a month or two from now... ;)
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Well, at the moment, all the forces (Japanese, American, British, Prussian/German, French etc) are still still steaming full speed for the coasts, where they will presumably be establishing beach-heads, scouting, foraging for supplies (and maybe occassionally attacking each other/being ambushed by the natives) before pushing on into the interior... that gives me a few days to sort out the maps I think ;)
This campaign is still very much open by the way, just because the first notices have gone up, it just means that Jimbibbly's Japanese will be the first to make direct contact... possibly even making landing in the morning (of course, what we need is a moderator in the Azores who's in the proper timezone, dammit)... the 'Scramble for Atlantis' is on, and if you want your faction to be part of it, all you need to do is say so!
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Malamute, you don't have to commit to playing a certain number of games, though obviously the point is to play some; many a colonial army turned up on some foreign shore, sat on a beach, went "ho hum" then went home again without doing much. If you might have time to play some games, I'd say, go for it, even if your particular force doesn't manage to accomplish much.
Ok, ok you have got me. :)
I will most likely be gaming with Messrs JimBibbly, Thunderchicken, Dewbakuk and Bullshott.
Forces- Mainly British inc Royal Geographical Society Expedition with the Illustrated London News overseas reporting team and.... their opposition the dastardly Prussians!
Gaslight/Valour & Flesh & Steel large skirmishes with steam and rivet goodness.
Let me know if you need me to do anything as mod for the VSF board, making posts sticky etc.
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OK, you're in. Nice to know that the Royal Geographical Society is sending an expedition, I wonder if they'll have a spectauclar war (of words) with the expedition from Miskatonic University? Or whether the love of knowledge for its own sake will unite these men of learning in a quest for higher truths... no what am I saying, it'll be competitions about who's got the biggest beard leading to poisoned inkwells at dawn, won't it?
As with the others, PMs will soon be flying. You'll be arriving a little after some of the others, presumably because the Royal Geographers took a little while to get organised... but you too can soon be in possession of a glorious map of the west coast of Atlantis (presumably, your geographers were returning to Blighty after surveying the North West Passage or counting the Lesser Antilles or something...).
Thanks for the heads up about your mod-powers - I hadn't really thought of that. I know who to come to, cheers.
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OK, you're in. Nice to know that the Royal Geographical Society is sending an expedition, I wonder if they'll have a spectauclar As with the others, PMs will soon be flying. You'll be arriving a little after some of the others, presumably because the Royal Geographers took a little while to get organised... but you too can soon be in possession of a glorious map of the west coast of Atlantis (presumably, your geographers were returning to Blighty after surveying the North West Passage or counting the Lesser Antilles or something...).
Malamute - If you need some suitable troops to add to your sailors, Royal Marines, etc gto operations in the tropics I can offer you the use of my WW1 Kings African Rifles as a substitute for the West India Regt (= 2 x GASLIGHT units). But then again, you will of course have all the resources that the Imperial forces in Canada can offer - so lots more opportunities to field your Home Service troops: )
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Malamute - If you need some suitable troops to add to your sailors, Royal Marines, etc gto operations in the tropics I can offer you the use of my WW1 Kings African Rifles as a substitute for the West India Regt (= 2 x GASLIGHT units). But then again, you will of course have all the resources that the Imperial forces in Canada can offer - so lots more opportunities to field your Home Service troops: )
Cheers Sir Henry,
I might just call on you,. On the other hand there's a fair chance that a detachment of the famous Bhurpa rifles led by Sgt Bundit-Din will be in the expedition.. :D ::)
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Well done Red Orc for taking the idea and running with it! :D
Down here in Sth East Oz (Melbourne) we Have the Brits (me) versus the Prussians with the Martians popping up from time to time.We also look like having a arab mercenary force and also boxer chinese to contend with.
Put me down and email me any relevant info so I can circulate among my fellow gamers.
Cheers
Fuzzy ;)
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I'm in, currently painting my lead mountain to raise an Arab army whilst 'resting' between contracts. I'll most probably be gaming with Bullshott et al when the chaps are finished.
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OK chaps:
Fuzzy, wouldn't have started without your groundwork - your initial post was the inspiration I was looking for (the reason I joined LAF, in fact) so hats of to you as the man who inspired it all. I'll let you know where your forces will be turning up in due course.
Dr De'Ath, Arabs sound like fun, are you thinking Mahdi-ists/pro-Egyptian govt in exile, Barbary/Moorish Pirates, or troops fighting for France or Spain, or what? It doesn't really matter, but it's nice to have an idea of the background. Any idea when they'll be joining the party?
And to everyone, the first forces have landed on Atlantis... both the Imperial Japanese government and the USA have announced that their forces were due to make landfall today. Other governments are expected to make similar announcements shortly...
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I would like to join the campaign but I only have two small forces British and Chinese to face off against each other.
Both forces are still a long way away from being finished painted but I am trying. I am on a extra long forced holiday at the moment so I may manage to get some more painted.
Not sure how many games I can get in at the start of the year as my games table is in the garrage and its a bit cold at this time of year.
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You're welcome to join the crazy maelstrom anyway, even with cold garages and unpainted Chinese and British.
Are you planning on gaming with anyone else who's already expressed an interest, or will you be setting something up on your own? If you're gaming with others excellent, let me know who and I'll assign you all a province. If you're on you're own, you can have a smaller-scale region to fight it out in.
Let me know when and if you're planning to have a game and we can work on a backstory (perhaps your British force has been chasing pirates all the way from the South China Sea; or maybe your Chinese are legitimate businessmen who have decided to try their luck in western waters, and your British are re-inforcements for another force that have been blown off course; or, indeed, something better than any of these ideas).
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"Your correspondant can reveal that, on this auspicious day, he was present to witness tracked amphibian vehicles of the United States Marine Corps making landfall on Atlantis. Marine Sergeant Eastwood leapt from the lead amphibian and planted the Stars and Stripes on the beach, to the cheers of his comrades ariving ashore.
The marines have been supplied by our govenment to provide protection and support to a geographical expedition headed by Professor Armitage Shanks of the Miskatonic University. I will be accompanying this expedition on its journey of discovery in this new world."
Ivor Pencil
Washington Post
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lol
Bravo, Bullshott! Professor Armitage Shanks indeed! Are there to be any pictures of this historic event? Presumably we have to wait a few days for those to be couriered back to Boston by boat, as there's no way to send pictures by galvanic telegraph...
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Ivor Pencil
Washington Post
A Welshman working for the Yanks? Whatever next ;)
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Dr De'Ath, Arabs sound like fun, are you thinking Mahdi-ists/pro-Egyptian govt in exile, Barbary/Moorish Pirates, or troops fighting for France or Spain, or what? It doesn't really matter, but it's nice to have an idea of the background. Any idea when they'll be joining the party?
They will be the forces of the Caliph of Khosinda (Khosinda being a ficticious West African country). If you picture them as irregular Barbary/Moorish pirates looking for loot with the backing of a wealthy European benefactor/employer seeking to enhance his collection of Antiquities, then that's the kind of thing I am thinking of.
If all goes according to plan, the first contingent will be in action this Saturday in a test game vs Bulshott.
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Ah why not, I'll throw in with the American scientific expeditions. The 'Collegium of New Science' has sent an expeditionary force to see if Atlantis will act as a suitable 'test bed' for recent innovation. The gullys used previously in California have started to act a little strangely....
As a newly established Western college, they have little time for their staid, bookish and prim counterparts from the East...
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All great news chaps. PMs now flying through the aether...
There are reports that forces of the British Empire have also landed on Atlantis. The War Office in Whitehall issued a statement to that effect, but this was later denied by the Admiralty. The Foeign Secretary, hunting stags in Scotland with the Her Majesty, was unavailable for comment.
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Atlantis it is.....
I can join in, but I am not likely to get a game in until next Friday and then about every other week there after.
We can field most powers, Brits/Indians/Canadians/DIsreali Army, Americans,
Prussians, Japanese, Russians, French, Arabs, Irish Free state.
I will be playing with Alfrik, Skrapwelder, Operon, and a few non-LAFfer as well.
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RedOrc -
I'd be very happy to take part with what I have, though I might be a slow starter at first, as my units need some polishing up (movers, I think I explained when I first joined, did a terribly thorough job of thrashing my landships, among other things.) However... I do know that at least myself and my wife would be interested in participating, as well as the other members of our group.
I will likely be personally fielding an Austro-Hungarian Force (my second choice would be a German force; it depends upon how many AH troops I can get done once I've got my other projects for the month out of the way.)
My wife, Jennifer, will be fielding the British in our games. You can expect Highlanders and Post Office Rifles in the force, amongst others.
Further, the forces of the INSIDIOUS Dr. Crum are available, and may occasionally make an appearance, as may the Moon-Men, his erstwhile allies. I've go other smaller forces, but these are really too small to be represented. I cannot speak for the forces available from others in our group, but we have a group of between four to eight on alternate Thursday nights and occasional Saturdays, at least some of whom can probably supply Spaniards, various forms of natives, etc.
We would likely be playing small to large scale skirmish games using systems like VSF and Triumph and Tragedy.
-Doc
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Its sticky now for ease and future enjoyment :)
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Leadfool: that's brilliant news, especially if you have upcoming games. If you, Alfrik, Skrapwelder and Operon all picked a faction each and let me know, that would be even better. That doesn't mean you only get to game with that faction, but in effect each of you would be commanding a force on the big campaign map - I'll be posting some of the maps soon.
Doc Twighlight: more excellent news! It doesn't matter if you can't start right away, the forces currently arriving on Atlantis were hurridly-put-together expeditions or things that have been redirected from somewhere else, there will be a constant process of re-inforcement by powers with forces on the ground, as well as expeditionary forces from other countries that haven't sent troops yet. So, it's fine if your group doesn't turn up immediately, just let me know when you're ready to begin and we'll set it up.
Malamute: that's brilliant, cheers!
Everyone expecting PMs from me - sorry, Atlantis has been closed today because I've been at work. I will be dispatching more info as soon as I can; 42, Bullshott, Jimbibbly, I'm sorry I haven't sent your maps yet. And thanks guys, I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it!
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Red Orc
It will be me and probably my brother using one of the forces I have. oldschoolrebel from the LAF may also be press ganged at some time.
The Chinese force is Imperial Chinese.
See this thread for the history so far.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13519.msg176373#msg176373 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13519.msg176373#msg176373)
I think the general idea will be that the Chinese agents hear about the rise of Atlantis and see how all the big Colonial powers are clamouring to get there first. The Chinese do not want to be left behind and have sent an expedition. They see this as an opportunity to gain fantastic technology to propel China to the top of the colonial food chain.
The British force is a small recon force sent to explore away from the main British army but end up in the same region as the Chinese expedition. The British force is based around an Aeronef
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=9842.msg154171#msg154171 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=9842.msg154171#msg154171)
With a Naval detachment supported by some other contraptions
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11075.msg126981#msg126981 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11075.msg126981#msg126981)
and some normal British infantry.
There will probably be some civilian advisers along with both forces, just to interfere.
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Leadfool: that's brilliant news, especially if you have upcoming games. If you, Alfrik, Skrapwelder and Operon all picked a faction each and let me know, that would be even better. That doesn't mean you only get to game with that faction, but in effect each of you would be commanding a force on the big campaign map - I'll be posting some of the maps soon.
Doc Twighlight: more excellent news! It doesn't matter if you can't start right away, the forces currently arriving on Atlantis were hurridly-put-together expeditions or things that have been redirected from somewhere else, there will be a constant process of re-inforcement by powers with forces on the ground, as well as expeditionary forces from other countries that haven't sent troops yet. So, it's fine if your group doesn't turn up immediately, just let me know when you're ready to begin and we'll set it up.
Malamute: that's brilliant, cheers!
Everyone expecting PMs from me - sorry, Atlantis has been closed today because I've been at work. I will be dispatching more info as soon as I can; 42, Bullshott, Jimbibbly, I'm sorry I haven't sent your maps yet. And thanks guys, I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it!
Orc -
If you could send me some initial information (when you've the chance) that would help me in determining how best to build up the force. My basic concept here is that, for whatever reason, the Emperor has decided to do what the Imperialists in the country have wanted to do for decades, and to go ahead with sponsoring a colonial expedition to this new continent. If nothing else, it will serve as a distraction from the recent... err... issues at home. The force will probably be a predominantly Hungarian one (I know, huge shock there for those who know me).
Can't speak for the British, but I'm sure Jen will go with the flow. As long as she can use her Highlanders, she'll be happy.
-Doc
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1 - Tommy20 (3-4 Players)
2 - Britain & Atlanteans (as long as they look remarkably like Space: 1889 Martians)
3 - Skirmish to start, small battles later, who knows...
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Gamer Mac, that sounds great. As we have Japanese in the Atlantic, why not Chinese too? They may take a little time to get there (I'm behind with the map-processing for everyone at the moment, they're the things that are taking a long time: I'm having scanner problems so I'm drawing the maps with photo-editing software) but if you're planning any games soon let me know and we'll move you up the queue. PM you soon.
Doc, the Hungarians and the Highlanders will be able to turn up pretty much as soon as I have gotten a map sorted. I'll send you a PM with some details and some kind of timeframe.
Tommy, good to have you on board - I'll be sending you a PM too. Yes you can use the Martians, but there are Martians (and Venusians of varying kinds) on Atlantis anyway; the 'moderns' don't know this yet, but Atlantis was contacted by both Martians and Venusians 13,000 years ago by our time frame; only a few dozen years ago by their time frame (because of the temporal anomaly that has 'hidden' Atlantis for so long). So the long and short of it is, your Martians can be Martians if you want.
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Bullshott and I had a small game yesterday - not sure if it was an 'official' Atlantis campaign game but . . .
(http://www.consolemonkey.plus.com/telegram.jpg)
Photos and report to be provided later. Should I post in this thread or are we going to have a separate thread for campaign battle reports?
Dr De'Ath
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Contrary to initial reports, this writer can report that Professor Armitage Shanks has not been captured. The party that was attacked was not, as had been initially thought, from the Miskatonic University expedition but was actually a survey team working for the New England Mineral Company, that was in the process of undertaking a geological survey of the coastline between the US and Japanese landings, to the south of Port Harrison*.
Captain Heston, commanding the he marines defending the outpost towards which the survey team was fleeing, noted that the 'pirates' made use of numbers of automata and appeared to be led by a white man. This seems to indicate that the true perpetrators of this unprovoked attack were not actually pirates, but were instead agents of an, as yet unknown, power.
US Navy aeronefs have confirmed that there is no sign of the pirates onland, indicating that they have probably left the area by boat (there were too many of them to have been easily transported by flyer). Bad weather prevented the aeronefs widening their search along the coastline. It is almost certain that the pirates have a land base further along the coast, possibly beyond the Japanese landing.
As a result of this attack Professor Shanks and Major Wayne, commanding the small and lightly-armed marine force accompanying the expedition, have jointly requested that the government supply additional military resources to enable adequate protection to be provided for the expedition. Additionally, the Navy has promised additional gunboats and aeronefs to enable them to protect the coastline against these 'pirates'.
* The expedition's point of entry on Atlantis has been named Port harrison, in honour of the the incumbent president of the United States.
Ivor Pencil
Washington Post
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Photos and report to be provided later. Should I post in this thread or are we going to have a separate thread for campaign battle reports?
Dr De'Ath
Excellent stuff, sounds great can't wait to see photos.
I can make make a separate sticky thread for battle reps?
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Dr De'Ath; as per the PM, that sounds like a pretty damn Atlantean game to me - and way to go with your sneak piratical landing! Love the telegram, that's ace. Don't know about how to handle battle reports, to be honest. One thread with all the bat reps in (yours first, obviously) is what I'm thinking at the moment. Does it need to be a sticky? I don't know, honestly I've never done this before, I'm making it all up as I go along.
Bullshott; also well done on being involved in the first battle, and I love the little snippets from Ivor Pencil that you're giving us. More information about Atlantis and Atlanteans for all participants will be posted in this thread soon, I hope some of it will be useful to you.
Malamute; do we need a sticky? If you think that will help, that's fine.
Everyone; I hope you're all enjoying this as much as I am! And if I owe you a PM I'm sorry I'll get back to you soon - not a map; I now hate maps, which have been a passion of mine for about 35 years; but they are coming, honestly; this should be the one that most of you on the west coast have seen already...
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiswest.jpg~original)
... and I can reveal without any fear of contradiction, that Bullshott has landed at "+1" (now named 'Port Harrison'), Jimbibbly at "+2" and Dewbakuk at "#6". Malamute's location is a closely guarded secret (sadly also from him, sorry Malamute, I'm on it), and Thunderchicken is still at sea, we think.
More to follow.
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Malamute; do we need a sticky? If you think that will help, that's fine.
Its probably easier to have it sticky for future reference. So when we get the first Battle report I'll do the necessary. :)
Malamute's location is a closely guarded secret (sadly also from him, sorry Malamute, I'm on it), and Thunderchicken is still at sea, we think.
lol lol lol No change there for Thunderchicken
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Well, perhaps he's moved that "Solo Wargaming Convention" to the fleet at sea;)
Rest assured that the KuK Flotte is on its way as well... just as soon as we get logistics sorted out. And our logistics are famously... err..
Well, at least the food is good.
-Doc
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Rest assured that the KuK Flotte is on its way as well... just as soon as we get logistics sorted out. And our logistics are famously... err..
Well, at least the food is good...
lol damned German inefficiency... but hurrah for dumplings and pickled cabbage!
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As people have been asking about the Atlanteans (those of you who've met any yet) here are some snippets culled from recent PMs:
"The town is something like an Egyptian or Mayan/Aztec city - some big temples and other public buildings, and lots of wooden huts. The general dress of the inhabitants strikes you as 'ancient' but beyond that it's difficult to say. Loincloths, cloaks, tunics, kilts and robes are all common, colours are generally white or off-white for the clothes closest to the body, richer colours for outerwear. Egyptian Greek (Mycenean or Classical) or Aztec minis would all be suitable I would have thought..."
Subsequently, we also thought that Inca minis would also be a good representation, as long as it was clear that weapons were generally metal, rather than stone.
The Atlanteans have all of the weapons you mentioned (spears, bows, swords). Predominantly the city-dwellers use iron, though armour is rare. An 'army would be probably 60% peasant militia types with spear and shield (often wicker) or sword and shield. Armour little to none. Some elite heavy infantry in armour, with a variety of weapons; some archer, sling man or javellin support units. Odd leader types may be in chariots (more common in the south, not so much where you are). Cavalry, horse archers, lightly-armoured lancers... a bit Alanic or Hunnish maybe in these more northern areas...
'Sling man' support units I have decided could optionally be bolas-using units instead. There are some very nice South American ones; Foundry and Outpost apparently do suitable ranges for some of the support units, particularly the bolas-guys and some of the elite infantry (unarmoured, sadly). Bullshott has some pics, as I don't have the savvy to copy them here, I hope he'll post them.
"...But in general terms, any lightly-armoured (leather or quilted) or unarmoured (tunic or bare-chested) mini with spear (of any length from 4-8') and a preferably square/rectangular shield; or with a sword (stright or curved) with a similar shield, should be OK..."
On the 'elite infantry', they guard the Atlanteans' many temples and wear 'big hats'...
"...The elite troops seem to be attached to temples - they wear different colours and carry different weapons (mostly pole-axe types but some mace types too) depending on what temple they're from. There do not seem to be many of them, perhaps 10-20 connected to each of the ... temples...
'Big hats' are like conical helms (generally in bronze, gold, or silver) and have lateral crests generally from ear to ear - sometimes these crests are decorated to resemble feathers or foliage, or with geometric designs. Elite troops wear them, though the decoration is not so elaborate. The largest - with the biggest crests that is, the helm-size is pretty constant - are those of the most venerable priests. .."
"... the Temple Guards wear either chain or breastplates ... but getting Incas with chainmail is going to be hard.... if you have a stack of chainmail bodies and Egyptian arms lying about (well, you might have) then Bob's your uncle..."
Further, on war and technology:
"... Two things I haven't told you about yet though are the living statues from the temples (equivalent to modern walkers/war-robots, in ancient terms golems or enchanted guardians), and the hand-held energy guns that most temples have a couple of, equivalent to whatever firepower is going up against them (lasers, winchester rifles... whatever is necessary to balance out the forces)... about a dozen temple gunners and an Atlantean war-robot or two are on the cards eventually..."
"...a man in a long white robe and a big hat comes to the quay to wave his arms and chant; he's got a guard of a dozen blokes with him, several hangers on with big hats (they look like they might be the town council), and, which is amazing to your expedition, a large walker of their own, seemingly manufactured out of bronze...
Of course no-one can understand each other; but they don't actually seem hostile, more surprised. They offer you food and trinkets on black ebony trays..."
On the Atlanteans in general: "...there are two different ethnic groups in Atlantis, a 'European' group in the north who arrived 10,000 years ago from Spain (local time, about 20,000 years our time) and a 'South American' group who arrived about 5,000 years ago (local time).
The city has been founded by the southern group as a northern outpost; the population is ethnically mixed, because neither group is particularly racist, but the southerners are considered culturally more developed (cities, proper farming and whatnot); the northerners are more nomadic and hunter-gathery (they're the horsemen on the whole, the southerners go in for chariots more). So in the city there's a lot of southern (central/south American type) influence that isn't there so much in the countryside round about..."
Hope these notes (mostly from conversations with Bullshott) are useful to anyone wanting to model Atlanteans.
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Last thing is a general announcement that the storms battering the Atlantean coasts for the last week or so have finally slackened off; the skies, especially, are clear enough for aeronefs and balloons to take to the skies once again.
And, yes, your maps are coming, slowly... the order for getting maps at present is Answer; Bullshott; Dewbakuk; Christian; and Mors, if you want to contact me telling me what you want to do 9and me to do), that would be grand.
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"The town is something like an Egyptian or Mayan/Aztec city - some big temples and other public buildings, and lots of wooden huts. The general dress of the inhabitants strikes you as 'ancient' but beyond that it's difficult to say. Loincloths, cloaks, tunics, kilts and robes are all common, colours are generally white or off-white for the clothes closest to the body, richer colours for outerwear. Egyptian Greek (Mycenean or Classical) or Aztec minis would all be suitable I would have thought..."
Subsequently, we also thought that Inca minis would also be a good representation, as long as it was clear that weapons were generally metal, rather than stone.
The Atlanteans have all of the weapons you mentioned (spears, bows, swords). Predominantly the city-dwellers use iron, though armour is rare. An 'army would be probably 60% peasant militia types with spear and shield (often wicker) or sword and shield. Armour little to none. Some elite heavy infantry in armour, with a variety of weapons; some archer, sling man or javellin support units. Odd leader types may be in chariots (more common in the south, not so much where you are). Cavalry, horse archers, lightly-armoured lancers... a bit Alanic or Hunnish maybe in these more northern areas...
'Sling man' support units I have decided could optionally be bolas-using units instead. There are some very nice South American ones; Foundry and Outpost apparently do suitable ranges for some of the support units, particularly the bolas-guys and some of the elite infantry (unarmoured, sadly). Bullshott has some pics, as I don't have the savvy to copy them here, I hope he'll post them.
"...But in general terms, any lightly-armoured (leather or quilted) or unarmoured (tunic or bare-chested) mini with spear (of any length from 4-8') and a preferably square/rectangular shield; or with a sword (stright or curved) with a similar shield, should be OK..."
On the 'elite infantry', they guard the Atlanteans' many temples and wear 'big hats'...
"...The elite troops seem to be attached to temples - they wear different colours and carry different weapons (mostly pole-axe types but some mace types too) depending on what temple they're from. There do not seem to be many of them, perhaps 10-20 connected to each of the ... temples...
'Big hats' are like conical helms (generally in bronze, gold, or silver) and have lateral crests generally from ear to ear - sometimes these crests are decorated to resemble feathers or foliage, or with geometric designs. Elite troops wear them, though the decoration is not so elaborate. The largest - with the biggest crests that is, the helm-size is pretty constant - are those of the most venerable priests. .."
"... the Temple Guards wear either chain or breastplates ... but getting Incas with chainmail is going to be hard.... if you have a stack of chainmail bodies and Egyptian arms lying about (well, you might have) then Bob's your uncle..."
These figures from Outpost Wargame Services give the general concept of the Atlantean troops, as discussed with Red Orc:
Levy/city guard spearmen (the bulk of an army):
(http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/images/Web%20Photos/inca/inc2.jpg)
Skirmishers:
(http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/images/Web%20Photos/inca/inc1a.jpg)
Elites (could do with more armour, but otherwise close enough):
(http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/images/Web%20Photos/inca/inc10.jpg)
Now all we need is a figure for the temple guardian automata! Anyone know of good Aztec-style statues?
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Now all we need is a figure for the temple guardian automata! Anyone know of good Aztec-style statues?
Unfortunately not. But give me some time.......
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Those Atlanteans look like the sort of chaps who will serve the British Empire admirably.
Her Majesty(Gaud Bless 'Er) looks forward to welcoming them to the fold ;)
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Hmm.. Atlantean Sepoys eh?;)
I think I'm going to try to use some of the Pulp Figures German Seebattalion to create my Austro-Hungarian tropical kit troops. They are generic enough, and they are very nice sculpts, indeed. In addition, they have the advantage of having support troops (such as Maxims, which the Austrians started using in an early form during the 1870s).
http://pulpfigures.com/cat.php?range=Germans&catalog=PGS&custID=692331362301263373885
I'm thinking the troops in pith helmets, specifically. Would probably not be able to use the Feldmutz types, but the others seem doable. Just curious about what you guys think. I have some leftover from my Wahehe War project that look like they'd fit the bill just fine.
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The Seebattalion should work fine. The packs bother me a little but as it's an expeditionary force it's easily waved off.
The maxim would need a new tripod though, however given that the early tripods were just three rather long poles that's incredibly easy to do.
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Hmm.. Atlantean Sepoys eh?;)
I think I'm going to try to use some of the Pulp Figures German Seebattalion to create my Austro-Hungarian tropical kit troops. They are generic enough, and they are very nice sculpts, indeed. In addition, they have the advantage of having support troops (such as Maxims, which the Austrians started using in an early form during the 1870s).
http://pulpfigures.com/cat.php?range=Germans&catalog=PGS&custID=692331362301263373885
I'm thinking the troops in pith helmets, specifically. Would probably not be able to use the Feldmutz types, but the others seem doable. Just curious about what you guys think. I have some leftover from my Wahehe War project that look like they'd fit the bill just fine.
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They are nice figures, I pondered over adding them to my VSF Prussian Colonial force. I think they will work ok. I rather like the feldmutz look, but pith helmets are as you say more appropriate.
I already have the Maxim gun and did not rework the tripod. ::)
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I already have the Maxim gun and did not rework the tripod. ::)
Ooooh, and you with your 'must not use WW1' stance!
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Ooooh, and you with your 'must not use WW1' stance!
Who me ???
I justify it by saying they are 'pulp' not WW1 ;) lol
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Unfortunately not. But give me some time.......
Okay, I should be working on SO many other things given that we have a game at the end of Feb and the only thing finished in my force is one walker.... However I don't have enough cowboys with rifles to make units (stupid number of pistol armed figures *grumble grumble*) and no money to buy more right now and the tools needed to work on my vehicles can't be used with a 2yr old running around and painting is just asking for trouble!
So, I find that I may be able to make a living statue after all. I have a couple of reference pics etc and have two styles in mind, a big hulking man-like statue and a 4 legged Jaguar style. I'm thinking twice the height of a man for the hulking one and almost man height to the shoulder of the Jaguar.
What do you think? Sizes about right?
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So, I find that I may be able to make a living statue after all. I have a couple of reference pics etc and have two styles in mind, a big hulking man-like statue and a 4 legged Jaguar style. I'm thinking twice the height of a man for the hulking one and almost man height to the shoulder of the Jaguar.
What do you think? Sizes about right?
Sounds about right to me.
Is anyone bringing any Atlanteans to the game?
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Sounds about right to me.
Is anyone bringing any Atlanteans to the game?
No idea. I'll make these with resin casting in mind so IF they come out okay they can get cast for people who want them.
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Sounds about right to me.
Is anyone bringing any Atlanteans to the game?
Lowtardog has kindly volunteered to bring his very large Aztec army to Atlantis on the 27th to repel the invasion... :) ;)
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Lowtardog has kindly volunteered to bring his very large Aztec army to Atlantis on the 27th to repel the invasion... :) ;)
Yes indeed, Great Emperor Tzitsnbuhm is rallying his Tzlonti as we speak in the great Gathering of the Jaguar expect blood, expect mayhem and woe and expect Feathers.......
Early Reports in from outlying villages have reached the Great Emperor; of "gods" from the seas. Not only one contact was made but several instances along the coast....not all were peaceful, so the great Armies have been fully mobilised and all vassal states informed to do likewise.
(http://www.jms.aps.edu/JMS/lopez/aztec_sacrifice.jpg)
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Good News is to be sent to our Warriors and the people...they are not gods, our Worldly Priests have undertaken extensive tests and can confirm they are not immortal
(http://extra.listverse.com/amazon/religiousatrocities/aztec_sacrifice4.jpg)
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Lowtardog has kindly volunteered to bring his very large Aztec army to Atlantis on the 27th to repel the invasion... :) ;)
What's in the plan for who is fighting them?
Have we got a idea on how this game is going to be arranged? Who V Who?
Is it worth while opening a thread just for that game?
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What's in the plan for who is fighting them?
Have we got a idea on how this game is going to be arranged? Who V Who?
Is it worth while opening a thread just for that game?
I was only discussing the very same with Dewbakuk earlier. Been tossinga few scenario ideas around. I'll pm you later with some thoughts.
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Well, I've had a look through my VSF collection, and a few ideas.
Would it completely throw things out of wack if I went with a different army idea? I am not at all objecting to doing the Austrians, but with the Parroom station line available again, the temptation to finish what I started with The INSIDIOUS Dr. Crum is strong;)
Either way, should be fun.
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Doc, you're the player, it's your force; I'm just the guy who suggests ways to tie it together. If you want to run your force as the private army of The INSIDIOUS Dr. Crum then that's absolutely fine. If you want to find out who else has 'evil scientist' factions, and link up with them (perhaps there is an eveil and isidious plot, and all the world's greatest villains have united to take over Atlantis; or perhaps there isn't!) or play as an idependent evil faction; or join up with the (possibly Prussian-backed?) Caliphate of Khorsind pirate faction; or have your evil faction backed by a cabal of Austrian militarists (allowing you to use both the evil scientists and Austro-Hungarian troops)... any or all of it is up to you. Happy to accomodate any ideas; if you like, PM me with your thinking.
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OK, time for a general campaign update; those of you in the west (Jimbibbly, Bullshott, Dewbakuk, Malamute, Dr De'Ath and Thunderchicken, should the missing fleet ever hove into view) have managed a lot of flying lately because the weather has been reasonably clear, so you can expect updated maps soon; however, storms are once again shutting down available flying time, I'm afraid, so as of local sunset (about 7-8pm, GMT, or 8-9pm forum time) all aeronefs and balloons are grounded.
Those of you elsewhere (Answer, Mors, Christian, Doc... who else? Am I missing anyone?) expect PMs soon - we'll nail these little teething problems (like 'where the hell am I, and where's my wife/landing beach/army?').
The first battles have taken place, between the Americans around Port Harrison on the northern part of the west coast, and pirate attacks believed to be of Khosindan origin, with aid from sinister agents of unknown powers...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15712.0 for Dr De'Ath's marvellous Khosindan forces and their sinister European experts.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15633.0 for Bullshott's wonderful US force - the Marine Corps, supporting a research and development expedition jointly organised by the New England Mining Corporation and the Miskatonic University of Arkham, Mass.
And not at least, because it's lovely and the first battle report we've had so far, http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15642.0 is the attack by the Khosindans on the New England Mining Corporation's expedition.
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Hmmm, this is my third post in a row, and that makes me sad. But if I just tack it onto the bottom of the other, people might miss it. Ah well.
Culled from the pages of various London newspapers over the past week...
From the Illustrated London News of 18th January, 1890:
The Royal Geographical Society expedition to New Cornwall is sponsored by the Belborough Steam Haulage and Construction Company.
Lord Belborough, a patron of the RGS, has sponsored previous expeditions of the RGS, most recently the successful colonisation of Venus. Lord Belborough and the principle RGS team, including the President of the Society Lord Abedare, were immediately recalled from Venus when the island of New Cornwall was first discovered.
Belborough quickly set about financing and planning the expedition, equipping it with the latest technological marvels from his factories in Northern England, the same factories that brought us the first four legged steam powered troop transport walker used on Venus. Lord Belborough is also a noted and well respected explorer and big game hunter, a most resourceful and strong gentleman, ideally equipped to deal with new unchartered lands.
The Royal Navy will provide the bulk of the military support for the expedition involving landing parties comprising naval ratings and Royal Marines. Vehicular support will come from the Navy's own transports and Belborough's civilian vehicles. The Navy is under the command of the Admiral Lord Ivor Mough-D'Ivor, hero of both the 1881 Prussian Invasion of Britain and latterly Venus.
There will also be additional support from adhoc British units including the famed Bhurpa Rifles and the Khalibar Lancers (named after the late Khasi of Khalibar VC who was killed at the battle of Kew in October 1881).
The expedition will be exclusively reported to the eager British public by the Illustrated London News Overseas Reporting Team, led by the infamous reporter Archibold Harris-Hampton and his chief photographer Stanley Still....
From Hansard House of Commons report, 14th January 1890:
... Sir Terrence Fotherington-Thomas, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, apologised to the House for not making a statement before now, but regretably had a prior engagement with Her Imperial Majesty to hunt stags in Scotland. But all that being done, the matter at hand was the New Cornwall Incident. What did it mean for Britain? Was it as some claimed the return of Atlantis? Or, more likely, was it merely an unsettled part of the British Isles, and therefore under the purview of Her Majesty's Government?
British expeditionary forces under the command of Lord Mough-D'Ivor would be landing on New Cornwall soon, if they were not there already, at which point the situation would become clearer...
From the satirical magazine The Slapper 17th January 1890:
... at which point Mr Robert Victor Reeves-Mortimer, for the Opposition, arose to general derision: cries of 'you wouldn't let it lie' and 'what's on the end of your stick, Mr Reeves-Mortimer?' could be heard in the hall. 'Why', asked Mr Reeves-Mortimer, Honourable Member for Banks and Embezzlers South, 'was the Chancellor not foresighted enough to realise that this kind of incident might occur, and balance the budget accordingly? Surely mountains rising from the sea overnight were the sort of thing for which the Government ought to make contingency?'
In reply Sir Terrence, Secretary for Slaughtering Heathens, replied that his Honorable friend the Chancellor had issued assurances that Her Majesty's Imperial Exchequer was quite stuffed with the bounty of pillaging the known world thank you and was in fact fat to bursting.
Dashing Captain D'Arcy, Member for Bristol Railway Owners-cum-Waxed Moustachios, idly speculated that he would have been proud to serve in the gallant throng now sailing to reclaim what was obviously a rightful British Isle temporarily lost but now re-joining its Mother Nation. Several calls from the Government back benches suggested that they would be most pleased were Dashing Captain D'Arcy indeed in the hold of a dark sweaty ship 3,000 miles away. Dashing Captain D'Arcy bravely (and dashingly) ignored these craven calls, considering them beneath his dignity (and his moustache). He went on to ask - not for the first time - whether the Amalgamated Western Railway could benefit from this, perhaps by a Governement Commission to build a new Atlantic Port at Padstow.
Mr Walter Wilson, Member for Poor People in a Hole Somewhere, offered the opinion that the British workingman already paid enough for his beer, and this new crisis ought not to increase the cost of a pint.
Mr John Vegas, Member for Grimmup North, agreed and asked for an adjournment to the House bar. This was rejected upon which Mr Vegas collapsed, apparently dying...
From The Machnester Guadrain January 12st 1980:
... it has been cofnrimed by the Frogien Sectrary the Britsh forks have landened on Atlantis or New Cronwell the Governmenet is callig it; and a settlenet established at New Victoria on the est coat...
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And in other news:
10 things you didn't know about Atlantis
1 - there are dinosaurs living there
2 - some Atlanteans ride them
3 - so do some Morlocks
4 - I can't think of another 7 things at the moment, and I have to have my tea anyway.
Just thought I'd give the more adventurous modellers a 'heads up'. Orcky things and robed humans riding big lizards. You know you want to.
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I see that a special exhibition at the British Museum on Moctezuma ends this weekend. Since I am in London on Saturday I might just have to pop in to do some 'research' for this campaign. Also want to have a look around the Mayan stuff a the museum.
Of course, I may change my mind entirely and pop over to the Science Museum to take a gander at their Difference Engine ....
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Excellent stuff Red Orc. :)
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Very good read. I haven't got as much time at the moment to devote to this as I would like (work, funerals and stuff) but the will change in the coming weeks :D
cheers
James
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We shall be active soon as well. The troops are ordered, and plans are made. Also, one of the guys in the group has a large Aeronef Collection, and that along with my own Austrian and Russian fleets should make for some interesting engagements in the air, if nothing else, while Jen and I finish cleaning up/rebuilding our ground forces.
A humble suggestion Red Orc and/or Malamute. Would it be prudent to establish a topic for the posting of news items, so that they aren't lost in the chatter here, and perhaps gain a wider exposure? They are real gems, and it'd be nice to see them in the spotlight.
-Doc
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Special Rutters Correspondent :Peking
Rumours are spreading in the Imperial Court at Peking of the Japanese Expeditionary Force to Atlantis being involved in some actions on a previously undiscovered Island. So far all that is known is that General Yugo ( force commander) commanded the fleet to replenish supplies at this Island enroute to the new continent. To take adavantage of the time General Yugo ordered three units of infantry led by Captains Noyugo , Okillgo and Okweallgo and some new steam technology units to carry out some field manouvers whereupon they were attacked by a force using new technology weapons but not from a known power. More information to follow as soon as recieved.
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Bear with me on this one chaps. I'm up to my receding hairline with work and uni stuff at the mo. It doesnt help with the other half working back to back longhaul so I'm a full time dad too.
Anyway, enough excuses and on with the show. I'll post an update shortly.
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My order from Redoubt arrived today, including 30 heavily armoured Mycenean spearmen in Dendra armour. All very nice figures. They also come with tower shields which will look very nice on them in their role as Atlantean temple guards. I'm going to convert a few (turning helmets into a more Inca style and making up some energy weapons), so I should hopefully be in the position to photograph some 'proof of concept' figures by the end of the weekend. After that its a race for me (hopefully with help from Dr De'Ath) to get them all converted and painted in time for the game in four week's time.
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My order from Redoubt arrived today, including 30 heavily armoured Mycenean spearmen in Dendra armour. All very nice figures. They also come with tower shields which will look very nice on them in their role as Atlantean temple guards. I'm going to convert a few (turning helmets into a more Inca style and making up some energy weapons), so I should hopefully be in the position to photograph some 'proof of concept' figures by the end of the weekend. After that its a race for me (hopefully with help from Dr De'Ath) to get them all converted and painted in time for the game in four week's time.
Oooh, sounds exciting, looking forward to seeing them. :)
I managed to paint two figures for the RGS expedition this week... thats a record lol
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And there's me trying to get 10 marines painted up..........
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And then there's the Lead Painter League...
cheers
James
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Well, I'm ahead of schedule :) These are my protptypes for Atlantean temple guards. Figures are from the Redoubt Trojan War range. The only conversion needed was to remove the helmet plume, saw a slot in the helmet and fit a plasticard and greenstuff crest.
Each god's temple guards will have a unique weapon, shield design and tunic colour. These figures are destined to be guards from the temple of the god of hunting. The shield has not been glued in place (I'm going to batch paint these by unit begore fitting them to the figures.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/164_30_01_10_2_12_13_4.jpg)
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That works nicely. Good job Bullshott!
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I'm also working on producing some energy weapons for the unit leaders ;)
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No machine guns?! ;)
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No rivets?
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Wow Bullshott, those are working really well! They're very close indeed to how I envisioned the Atlantean elite Temple Guards looking. The helmet crests look really good.
The six main Atlantean deities, for the benefit of the rest of you, are:
1 - a storm/sky god, whose colour is grey and whose sacred weapon is a club or mace;
2 - a moon goddess, whose colour is red and whose sacred weapon is a curved knife or sword;
3 - a hunting god, whose colour is dark green and whose sacred weapon is a pole-arm or spear;
4 - a water god, whose colour is sea-green (bluey-green) and whose sacred weapon is a straight sword;
5 - a forest goddess, whose colour is pale green and whose weapons are bow, and a dagger;
6 - a goddess of fate, whose priests wear multi-coloured cloaks and whose weapon is a mace-like staff.
And TC, they don't have machine guns (not yet, anyway) - they have laser rifles... oops, I mean 'magic crystal energy staffs'...
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And TC, they don't have machine guns (not yet, anyway) - they have laser rifles... oops, I mean 'magic crystal energy staffs'...
Phew, you had me worried for a minute there, imagining we'd be facing troops armed with modern weapons like rapid firing guns. Thats a relief, only magc crystal energy staffs, whatever they maybe? We'll be fine just giving them the cold steel then.... ;)
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Just some heathen nonsense, Admiral. Savages and their mumbo-jumbo. Never you mind, "the magic crystal energy staff has no stopping power against men in red coats walking slowly." That's from an official War Department publication.
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Just some heathen nonsense, Admiral. Savages and their mumbo-jumbo. Never you mind, "the magic crystal energy staff has no stopping power against men in red coats walking slowly." That's from an official War Department publication.
Well said that man, my boys will sleep soundly in their bunks knowing that. ;)
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Wow Bullshott, those are working really well! They're very close indeed to how I envisioned the Atlantean elite Temple Guards looking. The helmet crests look really good.
The six main Atlantean deities, for the benefit of the rest of you, are:
1 - a storm/sky god, whose colour is grey and whose sacred weapon is a club or mace;
2 - a moon goddess, whose colour is red and whose sacred weapon is a curved knife or sword;
3 - a hunting god, whose colour is dark green and whose sacred weapon is a pole-arm or spear;
4 - a water god, whose colour is sea-green (bluey-green) and whose sacred weapon is a straight sword;
5 - a forest goddess, whose colour is pale green and whose weapons are bow, and a dagger;
6 - a goddess of fate, whose priests wear multi-coloured cloaks and whose weapon is a mace-like staff.
From Professor Shanks' obervations of details of battles on Atlantean stellae it appears that, although they normally carry maces or clubs, in battles the guards of the storm god's temples may carry a short pole-axe, similar to those used by the Incas. (it all depends on when my order from Outpost arrives and if I think clubs or poleaxes will work best on my Redoubt figures ;) )
Similarly, reliefs showing what appear to be guards from the water god cult show that, in addition to their straight swords, they appear to be using short throwing spears ;)
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These are my protptypes for Atlantean temple guards. Figures are from the Redoubt Trojan War range. The only conversion needed was to remove the helmet plume, saw a slot in the helmet and fit a plasticard and greenstuff crest.
Wow!
Those have real potential! Nice conversion and, of course, the kind of imagination which makes VSF so very cool!
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From Professor Shanks' obervations of details of battles on Atlantean stellae it appears that, although they normally carry maces or clubs, in battles the guards of the storm god's temples may carry a short pole-axe, similar to those used by the Incas... reliefs showing what appear to be guards from the water god cult show that, in addition to their straight swords, they appear to be using short throwing spears ...
Very true ;)
What I should have said, is that my list was of typical weapons, or the most widely-recognised sacred weapons, of the deities concerned. But the list isn't definitive. In the east of Atlantis, for instance, the Moon-Goddess is often depicted with an axe rather than a sickle-like sword, and often her guards wear white rather than red.
Some other equipment varies by area; in the south, rectangular shields are common; in the north, round shields are more common. So, in short, not all temples conform exactly to the list I've outlined. It's more by way of ... guidelines.
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In other news, if you're waiting for a map, I'm sorry, but they are coming; they're just taking longer than I thought because I have a bit of a scanner problem at the moment. I hope to have a couple more done in the next few days. As more are done, there's more possibility to share them, cutting the work load, so they'll be coming out faster. Painfully slow at the moment though. Sorry again.
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Message received at The Admiral Lord Ivor Mough-D'Ivors office, Port New Victoria, Atlantis:
Sir, I regret to report the Royal Geographical Society survey team accompanied by an RN escort has come under attack at their base camp 40 miles north east of Port New Victoria from a combined force of what appears to be both Japanese and Prussian troops. Lt AA Milne RN.
Photo report of the engagement to follow.... ;)
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Disturbed by whats going on the British are sending in more Aeronef Support.
Though it appears so are the German's.
1 - Lupus/HerrUther
2 - British/German
3 - Aeronef for now ;)
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Lt AA Milne RN.[/i]
Sounds like the RGS are in the Pooh lol
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Sounds like the RGS are in the Pooh lol
;) lol
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BANZAI!!! BANZAI!!! BANZAI!!!
;D
cheers
James
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BANZAI!!! BANZAI!!! BANZAI!!!
;D
cheers
James
Message received at Admiral the Lord Ivor Mough D'Ivor's office, Port New Victoria, Atlantis:
I regret to inform your lordship of a very disastrous engagement which took place on the evening of the 4th February between the forces of Her Majesty (Gaud Bless 'Er) Queen Victoria and those of the Emperor of Japan.
The Japanese launched a highly disciplined attack on the British camp shortly before dusk. Taken completely by surprise the small detachment of Royal Marines and Naval Contingent where quickly overwhelmed with all lives lost including Lt AA Milne, commander of the Naval Brigade.
The civilian party comprising members of the RGS and ILN including the photographer Stanley Still were captured. Their current whereabouts or whether they are still alive is not known.
My crew and I were the only survivors managing to retire from the field via our Lowen Mrk1 Steam walker when all hope was lost.
Captain Edward Auffley-Keene. Royal Engineers.
Pictures To follow (hopefully unless the fading evening light has scuppered our poor attempts to use our Kodak Box Brownie...)
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Englishmen, always so obsessed with resounding defeats.
Is that Stanley Still as in Still photography? I have heard of him.
Message received at Admiral the Lord Ivor Mough D'Ivor's office, Port New Victoria, Atlantis:
I regret to inform your lordship of a very disastrous engagement which took place on the evening of the 4th February between the forces of Her Majesty (Gaud Bless 'Er) Queen Victoria and those of the Emperor of Japan.
The Japanese launched a highly disciplined attack on the British camp shortly before dusk. Taken completely by surprise the small detachment of Royal Marines and Naval Contingent where quickly overwhelmed with all lives lost including Lt AA Milne, commander of the Naval Brigade.
The civilian party comprising members of the RGS and ILN including the photographer Stanley Still were captured. Their current whereabouts or whether they are still alive is not known.
My crew and I were the only survivors managing to retire from the field via our Lowen Mrk1 Steam walker when all hope was lost.
Captain Edward Auffley-Keene. Royal Engineers.
Pictures To follow (hopefully unless the fading evening light has scuppered our poor attempts to use our Kodak Box Brownie...)
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Is that Stanley Still as in Still photography? I have heard of him.
Yes indeedy ;)
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Englishmen, always so obsessed with resounding defeats...
Well, that's only natural, you wouldn't expect us to be interested in petty defeats now would you?
...Is that Stanley Still as in Still photography? I have heard of him.
lol
Indeed yes, I believe he invented it in 1886, a few years before the New Cornwall Incident that this thread is about. Before that, photography was always very blurry as early photographers were attempting to capture moving images, which was never very successful. Have you read his autobiography, published in 1938 (at the height of the VBCW) at the age of 80? "Still: Life" it's called...
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DISASTEROUS!!!
Rumour in the corridors of the War Department have it that Lord Gruntfuttock (a keen student of brandy, huge cigars and outrageous sideburns) will be leading a relief column to Atlantis. If this proves to be true things will get interesting.......
Looking forward to the pics. :)
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Well, that's only natural, you wouldn't expect us to be interested in petty defeats now would you?
It is *ghoulish*, I tell you! ;)
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Is that Stanley Still as in Still photography? I have heard of him.
I believe his cousin is an RSM in that fine Highland regiment, the 3rd Foot and Mouth, currently serving in the Khyber; Stan Still-Laddie. :D
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I believe his cousin is an RSM in that fine Highland regiment, the 3rd Foot and Mouth, currently serving in the Khyber; Stan Still-Laddie. :D
I am intimately familiar with the Moonshine-Stills of Kentucky. Any relation?
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Captain B Cunningham Reports a class between British Patrol Group and German Patrol Group has seen heavy action.
The War Office Informs with regret about the Loss of the British Exeter Class Cruiser HMS Prudent as well as the Steadfast Class Patrol nef HMS Viking.
It does congratulate Captain Cunningham for taking control of the Patrol after the Flagships loss and applauds his amazing leadership that saw the destruction of a Koln Class Armoured Cruiser and Emden class Lt Cruiser. Plus substantial damage to other member's of the German Patrol. Names of the German ships are still to be confirmed by the Admiralty.
Although seen by a few as nothing more than a stand off those in the right places hint that the loss of the heavy support for the German Patrols in the area will see them running with dificulties for week's to come.
Report here; http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16351.0
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Oh! How long time will this be running?
I just discovered it!
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@ Thorbjorn; we'll be running for a while yet, mostly people are still queuing up to find landing spots because I'm very disorganised and haven't assigned them yet. If you want to be a part of what's going on, PM and we'll try to work something out.
@ Lupus; good to know that both the British and Germans will be sending aeronef fleets - both powers I rhink are falling behind the Americans and Japanese in terms of manpower and organisation, this may redress the balance somewhat!
@ everybody...
... the British and Japanese forces on the West Coast seem to have had a 'bit of a scrap' in the woodlands south of the north-west lake... battle report is here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16237.0). Once I get the latest maps sent out, perhaps other people might be able to contribute a bit more... sorry for delays. I'm slowly getting on top of it.
In the meantime, more details about Atlantean military dress and organisation have surfaced. Earlier reports were mostly from the west coastal regions; this suplimentary information includes some early reports from the south and east coasts.
A force wearing orange or amber tunics, armed with short swords and carrying round shields, marching under an orange banner with a device of pine trees, has been seen (east coast).
A company of archers with a green-and-gold banner depicting a striking falcon has been observed (east coast).
An order of female warriors, thought to belong to the Temples of the Moon Goddess, has been noted bearing banners depicting a silver disc or a silver starburst on midnight blue. These Moon-priestesses wear white cloaks, not the red of the western guardians of the Moon-temples (south coast).
A large mixed force of infantry, cavalry and chariots, wearing cloaks of red lined with white has been seen. Their banner is white with a red spearhead device. These warriors are thought to have temple organisations in several cities, though their god has not yet been identified (east coast).
Some light cavalry following a banner thought to depict a sea-horse have been seen, though further details are sketchy (south coast).
Warriors wearing grey tunics and dark green cloaks, with a banner formed from a tree-branch, have been observed (east coast).
Charioteers with a blue banner with a circular golden device - possibly a chariot wheel, possibly the sun - have been seen (east coast).
Furthermore, banners described as 'black with a white swan', 'black with a white eagle', and 'red with a black eagle' (from the east coast), 'blue with a nine-pointed star' and 'blue with a gold eagle' (south coast), and 'black with a white tree' and 'green with a white scimitar and red leaf' (west coast) have also been reported. Those banners not linked to temples are thought to derive from cities in those regions.
More info as we have it...
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President Harrison looked at the papers placed before him by the Secretary of State for War.
So far the US landing had been lucky - a boat lost in on a coastal survey and the loss of a mining company survey team to pirates (what on earth were the survey team thinking of when they declined the offer of support of a detachment of marines). However, news of the Japanese attack on the British RGS expedition was worrying - this was just a little too close to the American landing site at Port Harrison. If the Japanese were on the move then Major Wayne's request for additional troops would have to be expedited immediately. Possibly more worrying was the news of the action between the British and Prussian aeronef squadrons. This was a serious escalation in the level of forces deployed on Atlantis.
Harrison signed the movement orders for an array of various Navy and Army units. The Treasury Department were not going to like this, but he had no choice but to commit more support to America's sons on Atlantis.
Having signed the papers, Harrison placed his pen back in its holder on his oak desk, then picked up a small brass bell and rang it. Almost immediately his butler appeared in the room, holding a silver tray on which stood a large glass of bourbon. Harrison had chosen a bad week to give up hard liquor.
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Hmm seems everyone has overlooked the ancient crystal technology that the Atlanteans had as reported by the greeks.. This could, should it still exsist even in a limited way, come as a rude shock at some point! Of course, it could all be unsubstatiated rumors and lies or even "faked" ancient scrolls to cast fear into modern leaders hearts to avoid the land rush, er, the bringing of modern enlightenment to this land.
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Hmm seems everyone has overlooked the ancient crystal technology that the Atlanteans had as reported by the greeks..
Not at all. The west coast temple guards are equipped with crystal powered energy staffs. These weapons are thankfully very limited in number. The automata/living-statues that have been spotted also appear to draw power from crystals mounted on top, supposition is that these crystals somehow collect energy from the sun.
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Not at all. The west coast temple guards are equipped with crystal powered energy staffs. These weapons are thankfully very limited in number. The automata/living-statues that have been spotted also appear to draw power from crystals mounted on top, supposition is that these crystals somehow collect energy from the sun.
Mere sticks and stones.
No match for a gentleman with a Martini Henry rifle and bayonet(with a bit of guts behind it) ;)
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Mere sticks and stones.
No match for a gentleman with a Martini Henry rifle and bayonet(with a bit of guts behind it) ;)
But not yours going on last weeks game ;D
cheers
James
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But not yours going on last weeks game ;D
cheers
James
Bastard >:(......... ;)
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@Red Orc - I am happy to report that with the improvement in weather around Atlantis - you have an incoming heliograph.
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Parraell convoys managed to avoid coming to shots as a heavy morning mist on the waters near the coast made naval fire not worth the tonnage of misses. I can report that both a Prussian and a British task force then diverged their courses slightly and made harborage on the South East coast of Atlantis where they began hasty off loading and entrenching. Weather seems to have played a major deterent to the arrival of airships for both forces at this point.
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Bastard >:(......... ;)
;D ;D ;D
(I'm going to be eating these words later :D )
cheers
James
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Some Atlantean inspiration...wish I could paint that well :-*
http://wabforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=7063
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Me too... I mean, I wish could too! They really are gorgeous, the armies and the terrain. I love those canoes. And the step-pyramids of course, I'm a sucker for a good step-pyramid. Thanks for posting that LTD, if it doesn't inspire something from someone, we must all be dead from the neck up!
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Ooh now I have a half dozen of those canoes with crews etc painted up somewhere ;) so any amphibious landings..beware
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@Red Orc - I am happy to report that with the improvement in weather around Atlantis - you have an incoming heliograph.
Which also involves me :) - The Confederates are coming! (As is a PM)
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Which also involves me :) - The Confederates are coming! (As is a PM)
Could be VERY interesting if they ever get to meet the US buffalo soldier unit I'm about to start working on ;)
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Strangely, I'd just said something similar by PM.
I'm intrigued as to the Confederacy's involvement. Should make for a very interesting set of feuds and alliances!
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Bullshott - I look forward to the possibilities!
I thought I'd post up the various bits I sent to Red Orc regarding my Confederates (I'm afraid its rather long)
As regards the confederacy - in my timeline they 'won' the civil war, and are currnetly fighting the '2nd American war' (My force is from the late 1870's). I'm guessing by the time of the campaign they'll probably have just about survived the 3rd American War with lots of Anglo-French Assisstance.
Having fought 3 rather brutal & protracted wars in 30 years, and lacking the North's industrial infrastructre, the forces are pretty ragged and irregularly armed, but make up for it in terms of experiance and determination.
Although some units have Bolt actions, a large percenatage are armed with Snider-Enfield cartridge conversions. They don't have much in the way of steamtech (lacking the resources to build or buy much) although what they do have is generally fairly good. Due to this lack of technological wonders, most inantry units carry explosives and a heavy 'Anti-contraption' rifle or two which atleast give them a chance against enemy armour. The force will hopefully have a fair bit of artillery (although most of it will be fairly dated). During the 2nd & 3rd American wars, the use of guerillas/partisans continued unabated, and as part of the Atlantis landing a large group of volunteer 'fillibusters' has joined the force.
On the slave question, no general emancipation has occured, although a policy of 'phased' emancipation* instigated during the 2nd American war continues.
*Due to a lack of manpower, and partly to appease their potential French & existing British allies, the Confederate goverment began a policy of accepting slave 'volunteers' into the army. In this process, the goverment pays the slave's value to his former owner, at which point the slave becomes property of the goverment (And is said to be Bonded). The bonded slave serves in the states army, recieving no wages, until such a time that the unpaid wages equals the purchase sum, at which point the slave is free. If they remain in the army, they then recieve a standard wage. Where a slave chooses, the goverment may also purchase any of the slaves immediate family, and the acrued wages pay for these members first, before finally freeing the bonded soldier. Should a bonded soldier die before these debts are fully paid, a govermental pension scheme has been set up to continue paying off the debt on the slaves family (Once the deceased slaves family is free, these payments cease).
Freed slaves are incorperated into integrated units - a practice which caused major upheveals at first, but which has now become accepted. 'Bonded' slaves usually serve in seperate units, underwhite or freed-black officers.
So I'll be looking to ally with the French & British, and trying to bloody the noses of the damn Yankies & their Prussian supporters! I'll also pop up a post with my existing army in it...
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Those Pyramids & temples are from Stonehouse Miniatures out of Portland, Oregon, USA. The same people that make the steam elephant. Looks like they are unpainted, that is the color of the resin they cast their buildings in.
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@ Very Lazy Dragon -
Wow...
that's some alternative history! Not sure we can entirely integrate the 30-odd years of backstory into the campaign, but I'm quite happy that the force as you've described it is viable in game terms. We may have to say you've been operating from the Caribbean or South America with support from the British and French (at least in the beginning... it might be thought that by 1871 during the Third Republic the French might be backing the Union... potentially making the Confederates, British and Prussians allies against France and the USA... and maybe Russia too...).
It'll obviously cause some headaches for the British - I believe they were thinking of making common cause with the US forces, against the Japanese... oh what a tangled web (imaginary) imperialist history is!
@ HerbyF - thanks for the info on that. I probably won't be ordering any, I'll just have to make some at home (not as nice, obviously) from polystyrene foam and grey poster paint. Oh well, they can join the rest of my rubbish-looking half-made terrain!
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@ Red Orc - That's fair enough. I thought 'd put most of the backstory in, and then let you whittle down the stuff that wouldn't otherwise fit :D I don't see why the British can't back both sides of the Mason-Dixon line, especially against different opponents - they just have to be very careful they don't get caught doing it! lol
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Oooh, so young, and yet so cynical! lol
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The campaign is getting off to a great start!
I can't wait to get back to the club for my next gaslight game.
On the subject of atlantean troops I had a spark of an idea when I remember these minis from eureka:
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_721
Armies and enemies of the petal throne. I could never see myself buying these minis but now I may have to reconsider that decision :)
The interesting thing for the British government is whether to use the new skywalker troops to rescue the survivors of the zambesi disaster or re route the troops on board HMES Hermes to Atlantis.
Cheers
Fuzzy.
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@ Very Lazy Dragon -
It'll obviously cause some headaches for the British - I believe they were thinking of making common cause with the US forces, against the Japanese... oh what a tangled web (imaginary) imperialist history is!
@ Very Lazy Dragon - be aware that there are currently at least two seperate American forces on Atlantis in addition to yours - a North East Coast university/mining company expedition with military protection (my force) and a West Coast (Californian?) university expedition.
On the West Coast of Atlantis the British are somewhat pre-occupied by a Japanese attack on their forces and the near by US expedition is keeping a wary eye on the Japanese too. On the East Coast of Atlantis the British and Prussian aeronef fleets have recently had a clash. So it looks like the Brits are somewhat pre-occupied. Not sure if any French have arrived on Atlantis.
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Hmm... It looks like I'm going to have fun
dodging fighting the Federals in that case. Still, all the more reason to justify reinforcements!
It also sounds like the Brits are going to be fairly busy on their own account at this rate, and at this rate they may well choose to ally to the more multitudinous USA forces.
I wonder if the Japanese are looking for allies....
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I wonder if the Japanese are looking for allies....
At the moment we seem to be trouncing the British quite solidly thank you very much ;) ;)
(maybe later :D )
cheers
James
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At the moment we seem to be trouncing the British quite solidly thank you very much ;) ;)
(maybe later :D )
cheers
James
::)
One small skirmish and you'd think they had won the war ;)
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At the moment we seem to be trouncing the British quite solidly thank you very much ;) ;)
(maybe later :D )
cheers
James
Not for much longer my fiendish friend. Look towards the skies........... (and remember never to look directly at the sun, its not good for your eyes).
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Not for much longer my fiendish friend. Look towards the skies........... (and remember never to look directly at the sun, its not good for your eyes).
Sorry but the Brisitsh Aeronef Patrol is currently inbound to bomb a Prussan Aernef supply Depot.
We could be available for any other suppression duties after we get back. Though the lads might need a cuppa and bacon roll before we head out again ;)
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Sorry but the Brisitsh Aeronef Patrol is currently inbound to bomb a Prussan Aernef supply Depot.
We could be available for any other suppression duties after we get back. Though the lads might need a cuppa and bacon roll before we head out again ;)
As usual the tin red line is stretched to the limits.... ;)
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Sorry but the Brisitsh Aeronef Patrol is currently inbound to bomb a Prussan Aernef supply Depot.
We could be available for any other suppression duties after we get back. Though the lads might need a cuppa and bacon roll before we head out again ;)
Indeed, your excellent battle report confirms this but I'm talking about a special delivery from the War Department. ;)
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Indeed, your excellent battle report confirms this but I'm talking about a special delivery from the War Department. ;)
Excellent i look forward to seeing the shock on the supplier face when he unwraps it and says sorry guv won't go on the shelf :D Or my other favorite saying you can't sign that out its war stock..
lol
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Excellent i look forward to seeing the shock on the supplier face when he unwraps it and says sorry guv won't go on the shelf :D Or my other favorite saying you can't sign that out its war stock..
lol
My favourite was always "You can't have that, it's my last one and some-one might need it." ;)
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When I was in the forces some 'Suppliers' used to bemoan the fact that they were referred to as 'Storemen', prompting the usual reply; "No, suppliers supply, storemen store....." :D
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The War office reports that the daring Raid on the Prussian Aeronef Re-Supply Depot a total success.
In a stunning Dawn Raid commanded by the capable Captain B Cunningham (DSO) destroyed the Prussian Resupply depot effecting heavy losses on strategic war material.
Though coming under heavy fire in his new commissioned Exeter class Cruiser HMS Trident the Group was able to effect a lightning raid before escaping to safety.
Wild Rumour's that one of the British Ship's struck its colours were met by these views from Cpt Cunningham.
"Tosh i tell you, it was bad workmanship that caused the ship to have to surrender, No British Captain worth his salt would give up his ship in such a way. he'd be laughed out of the Officer's club if he did."
Asked if they would be attempting a rescue attempt on the ship Cpt Cunningham had this to say.
"What you take me for a fool, if I gave answer's to questions like that i may as well put the whole war effort up for public display as well."
Prussian Communiqué intercept…..
Herr Admiral,
The cowardly British have launched an attack on one of our refit depots.
Once again the British Captain B Cunningham’s’ and his band of Nefdogs have fought without honour in a dawn raid. This resulted in our glorious Imperial fleet repelling the scurvy ridden dogs, we even witnessed one of their number strike colours, unthinkable! Although we have many damaged Nefs the enemy suffered a similar fate. While serious damage was done to the facility we expect that we will be operational again in 2 weeks.
The enemy Nef and her crew that surrendered has been impounded and we are currently refitting it to be a suicide Nef. Our plan is to locate the base of operations of the coward Cunningham and his Nefdogs, then we will pilot our explosive ridden Nef straight it.
For The German Empire
Kurt Steiner
Fregattenkapitän
SMS Kaiserin Augusta
Koln Class Cruiser
(Pictures to come when my camera stops hating me.)
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AAAARGH! I hate it when the $%^&ing machine eats my replies!
Sorry, bad moment; Lupus, lovely report, it's great to see a real grudge match developing among the commanders of different expeditions.
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Housekeeping and confession time; I'm getting a bit lost with the organisation I'm afraid, which has meant for some of you a month of conceptually sailing around the island looking for a parking space. Sorry - when we were kicking Fuzzie's idea for a world campaign around originally, we thought maybe there'd be about six of us running things. As it is, there's me and Christian, who's got some time on his hands while he conceptually sails round waiting for a parking space...
I'll try to be better at updates and whatnot, but first I really do need everyone to check the list I'm posting below which lists the basic campaign info: if you're not on the list and you should be, please PM me with 'Atlantis update' in the subject field. If you're on the list but something's changed or otherwise your data needs altering (maybe I just made a mistake) please PM me similarly. And I promise* I'll be better at updating in future.
BTW, I'm using 'Prussian' and 'German' as synonyms here, because Germany has so recently been unified that almost everyone still calls it 'Prussia'. But I am aware that German unification has already occurred.
Jimbibbly – Japanese – West Coast (site 2)
Bullshott – Americans – West Coast (site 1)
Thunderchicken – British? – West Coast?
Dewbakuk – Americans – West Coast (site 6)
Malamute – British – West Coast (site 3)
Dr De’Ath – Arab-Prussian alliance – West Coast (not marked, he's a sneaky pirate)
Answer_is_42 – British, French and Arabs – East Coast
Mors and Mors Junior – Japanese, German, Belgian, Mad Scientist, Sea Devil – North Coast (moved to South Coast?)
Christian – British – South Coast (possibly on an island?)
Fuzzywuzzieswiflasers – British, Prussian, Martian, Arab, Chinese – unknown location
Gamer Mac – Chinese, British – location unknown
Leadfool, Alfrik, Skrapwelder – Prussians, British (inc Colonial forces), Americans, Russians, Japanese, French, Arabs, Irish Free-staters – location unknown
Doc Twighlight – Austro-Hungarians (plus evil scientists?) v British – location unknown
Tommy20 – British v Atlanteans (possibly Martians?) – location unknown
Lupus & Herr Uther - British and Prussian aeronef fleets - currently battling over unclaimed northern islands...
Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon - Confederates and Prussians - location unknown, but possibly somewhere on or near West Coast?
That's everyone I have on my list at the moment. As I say, if you're supposed to be on that list but aren't, or you are but are in the wrong place, with the wrong army and the wrong other players, do let me know by PM. 'Atlantis update' is guaranteed to get my immediate attention at the moment, because it's really just out of control now. Sorry.
*promise not legally binding in some jurisdictions
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AAAARGH! I hate it when the $%^&ing machine eats my replies!
Sorry, bad moment; Lupus, lovely report, it's great to see a real grudge match developing among the commanders of different expeditions.
Oh indeed i shall be reporting what a cad my opponent is to the nice man from the Times this afternoon ;)
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Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon - Confederates and Prussians - location unknown, but possibly somewhere on or near West Coast?
Hope so, makes it more interesting if they're with the rest of us :)
With regards to the Confederate thing, don't know about Dave but that background fits in fine with mine. I also have a continued Confederate presence with California nominally being claimed by both sides. As niether side wishes to restart full scale hostilities over it however it's become a bit of a no-mans land with both sides having forts/settlements in the state. That's one of the reasons the Collegium set up there, while they are nominally Union, they regard the study of science as more important than petty politics and have Confederate members.
All their troops are mercs essentially anyway :)
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Hope so, makes it more interesting if they're with the rest of us :)
With regards to the Confederate thing, don't know about Dave but that background fits in fine with mine. I also have a continued Confederate presence with California nominally being claimed by both sides. As niether side wishes to restart full scale hostilities over it however it's become a bit of a no-mans land with both sides having forts/settlements in the state. That's one of the reasons the Collegium set up there, while they are nominally Union, they regard the study of science as more important than petty politics and have Confederate members.
All their troops are mercs essentially anyway :)
Yes, the more the merrier on the West Coast. There are a couple of unoccupied landing sites left (sandwiched between the British and Dewbakuk's Collegium landing) - so that should make for some interesting stand-offs :)
As far as how the Confederates fit in in the same context as my forces, I can certainly fit in around them. My expedition has a north-eastern states feel to the civilian part, with more generic US military. Good thing I hadn't done my walker with Texas flag as I had originally considered lol
BTW - Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon, where are you guys based?
Bullshott
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Glad to hear the confederacy exisitng won't be massively disrupting peoples timelines then!
Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon - Confederates and Prussians - location unknown, but possibly somewhere on or near West Coast?
That sounds fine to me! We've had a 'Mad Science' force join the fold, and there may yet be a British Force involved in the odd game or two...
I also have a continued Confederate presence with California nominally being claimed by both sides. As niether side wishes to restart full scale hostilities over it however it's become a bit of a no-mans land with both sides having forts/settlements in the state. That's one of the reasons the Collegium set up there, while they are nominally Union, they regard the study of science as more important than petty politics and have Confederate members.
That sounds rather Deadlands-ish!
Good thing I hadn't done my walker with Texas flag as I had originally considered
I don't agree on that one... the south needs every piece of steamtech it can get! lol
BTW - Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon, where are you guys based?
We're South-west(ish) - I'm in Bristol and Whiskyrat is in Chepstow. Although I don't have a car, I'm fairly close to a railway station if a major meet-up is on the cards!
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That sounds rather Deadlands-ish!
Incredibly so given that this force plays in both games :P
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Incredibly so given that this force plays in both games :P
Which is even more convieniant, given that my CSA forces were heavily inspired by the CSA in deadlands!
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BTW - Whiskeyrat and V_lazy_dragon, where are you guys based?
I was planning to drive up next week-end to thrash you all soundly die spectacularly but we have a family thing going on in Leeds.
The good news is that it gives me a little more time to get my clanks sorted out in time to meet with Xander. :D
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On the West Coast of Atlantis, guards from the temple of the hunting god have been observed parading in full battle gear as part of a religious festival. Their leader carried a strange staff weapon, whose head was fashoned to resemble an open-mouthed lizard. The function of theis weapon is yet to be confirmed. Also presennt were battle automatons:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/164_26_02_10_6_21_10_0.jpg)
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;D
Those came out really nice.
Was a bit skeptical at first... but not anymore!
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Fantastic work Bullshott! They've come out gorgeously... beatifully modelled and a fantastic paintjob too - I like the dark coppery skintone, neither African, Middle Eastern or Native American, but somehow suggesting all of them, as is only right and proper for people from somewhere that doesn't exist in out timeline!
Love that deep green and copper combo on the shields too. And the helmets are superb. Do you have a better view of the staff-guy?
The 'living statue' is a Mage Knight Golem, I think? I wish I'd checked out Mage Knight minis before I started all of this, there seem to be various things in the range that work for Atlantean troops and technology...
All in all, brilliant work sir, I'm proud that my (frankly a bit barmy and made up) campaign has inspired such brilliant work!
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Gorgeous! Love the automaton, and recognize several of the bits. Care to do a quick tutorial?
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Gorgeous! Love the automaton, and recognize several of the bits. Care to do a quick tutorial?
The base figure is a mageknight Impaling Golem:
(http://images.jdnunes.multiply.com/image/2:havalon/photos/14/600x600/24/Bass-Assain-Stealth-painting.jpg?et=WXGniMcrF1Dg0IuSxRi%2BrQ&nmid=79171714)
I removed the spikes on the shoulders, above the head and at the top of the golem's back. I also trimmed-off the weapon things on the fists. After that it was just a case of fitting parts from the GW plastic Lizardman Cavalry boxed set. The new head was a drum (trimmed to fit the golem body), crowned with a headress made from the armoured cold one head in the set(lower jaw removed and trimmed to fit the drum 'head'). A bit of greenstuff to pack out the back of the new head/headress and it was pretty much all done.
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How did he go down in the end? TO malmalute's english want it? God damned Limeys!
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Right chaps, I decided it really was about time to make some 'campaign maps', or at least, to show you the ones I've been making; these are fairly faithful reproductions of the maps I have pinned to my cork noticeboard in my office. In other words, they look a bit cluttered and scrappy! I hope you can all make the details. A click on the images if they are too small should increase the size by about 50%... but that seems to be as big as they get. If people can't see details, let me know and I'll try to get better images.
First up, the west coast, where Jimbibbly's Japanese, the US forces of Bullshott (in the north) and Dewbakuk (in the south), Malamute's British, and Gamer Mac's Imperial Chinese, are all consolidating territory; meanwhile, after spectacular success against an American mining expedition, Dr De'Ath's Khosindian pirates have mysteriously vanished, while Thunderchicken's promised British re-inforcements have mysteriously never arrived!
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiswestzones.jpg
In the south-eastern zone, V_Lazy_Dragon's Confederate States forces, and Mors's Japanese, have so far met little resistance or any other problems; Answer_is_42's French, however, have had to fight off a British attempt to land in their zone of influence, and further to the west, Alfrik's Prussian battalions of the Imperial German Army have fought a combined British/Atlantean force and, it is reported, captured a major native city into the bargain.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiseastzones.jpg
How will the balance of forces develop? Will the large battle that seems to have taken place on an island to the south-west of the continent damage the ability of those forces in the west to capitalise on earlier successes? Will the forces in the east be able to co-ordinate their operations to eliminate common enemies? What will be the overall attitude of the Atlanteans, now they have come into direct conflict with the 'modern' powers? Will Thunderchicken's British ever find their way to Atlantis? All (perhaps) will be revealed in the coming weeks...
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How did he go down in the end? TO malmalute's english want it? God damned Limeys!
It was the British, can't remember who bagged it but I distinctly remember it running down the temple, swinging it's sword and breaking down before the weapon connected.....
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In the South East, the Prussian assault on the city of Hythoria is one of our 2 next battles planned. City Guards, Temple Elite, British Light forces that have swung wide and arrived at the city will make a stand against the Prussian onslaught. Meanwhile back near the beaches, the Brits have oppted to strike a blow at the Prussian Landing Depot to disrupt the supply line and hopefully destroy major stocks of supplies already accumulated. Raid will hopefully be played out today.
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Thanks for the clarification Alfrik: I'm presuming that is the port at location 22 rather than the city at location 9?
So, contrary to earlier rumours, the Pussians have not taken a major Atlantean city, though they are attacking it... the outside world awaits further developments with bated breath!
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It was the British, can't remember who bagged it but I distinctly remember it running down the temple, swinging it's sword and breaking down before the weapon connected.....
Quatermain and the Naval Brigade, shortly before Quatermain's untimely demise at the mechanical hands of those whirling Dervish automatons :'(
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Quatermain and the Naval Brigade, shortly before Quatermain's untimely demise at the mechanical hands of those whirling Dervish automatons :'(
They were a bit tasty weren`t they
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Well, it would be Quatermain of course, he is the world's most famous Big Game hunter...
...but you don't mean to say... he's injured?
Don't worry, we're playing 'campaign rules'! He's not dead, he can come back in a later game... ;) ... as can any other named heroes, especially pre-exiting fictional ones - no permanently killing Sherlock Holmes, Captain Nemo or Captain (later General) Melchett either! Send me details about how any heroes 'died', and we can work out a convincing story of how they were only knocked out, and spent a week back at base drinking brandy until they were better.
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Well, it would be Quatermain of course, he is the world's most famous Big Game hunter...
...but you don't mean to say... he's injured?
Don't worry, we're playing 'campaign rules'! He's not dead, he can come back in a later game... ;) ... as can any other named heroes, especially pre-exiting fictional ones - no permanently killing Sherlock Holmes, Captain Nemo or Captain (later General) Melchett either! Send me details about how any heroes 'died', and we can work out a convincing story of how they were only knocked out, and spent a week back at base drinking brandy until they were better.
Now there's a man after my own heart. Yes I am sure he will return. In fact he'll probably wake up and realise it was all a dream ;)
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Thanks for the clarification Alfrik: I'm presuming that is the port at location 22 rather than the city at location 9?
So, contrary to earlier rumours, the Pussians have not taken a major Atlantean city, though they are attacking it... the outside world awaits further developments with bated breath!
Nope the Prussians keep struggling for supplies as the British Aeronef fleet keeps atatcking anything they send :D
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As concerns Quartermain, "Africa won't let him die", short pop back to africa, the witch doctor does his dance and Quartermain is back in action! (reference League of Extordinary Gentlemen)
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Well, I may as well publish the 'wound table', and explain (at least sketchily) the 'Field of Battle' rules as least as far as heroes go. Maybe for units too, if I get that far before my shilling for the steam-powered computation engine runs out.
'Dead', in a campaign game, means only 'incapacitated and unable to continue with the battle'. Perhaps the hero has been knocked out, or is trapped under rubble, has a broken leg or other serious or incapacitating injury. Whatever the case, no hero is 'dead' for futher campaign games until they have rolled on the
Heroes' Wound Table
Roll a d6; this is the number of weeks that the hero must spend recuperating from their injuries.
If the hero was killed in particularly accidental or unheroic fashion (eg unluckily caught by the edge of an explosion; accidently trampled by a large animal; shot by a unit of regular infantry), subtract 1 from the roll. If this results in a '0' score, the character recovers in time for the next game whenever that takes place, even if the next day. All that has happened is that the character must take the rest of the day off due to feeling a bit poorly. Serves them right for not noticing the dinosaur/not turning sideways to ward off the blast/not charging the damned riflemen faster.
If the hero was killed by being 'normaly heroic' (eg in hand-to-hand combat, charging a Lewis Gun position, fighting Klankentruppen or some such) then no adjustment is made.
If the hero was killed in somewhat more dangerous fashion (eg in combat with an enemy hero, at the centre of an explosion, or by being specifically targeted by enemy assassins) then add 1 to the roll. It's tough being a hero, and sometimes on has to pay the price. Added to which, heroes on the other side need to get a bonus too.
If the hero was killed in spectacularly dangerous and heroic fashion (eg in a massive explosion after piloting a hydrogen-filled attack-ballon into the heart of the enemy's steam-driven mechanical dinosaur cavalry charge, thereby entirely tipping the battle from certain defeat for the hero's side, to victory tempered only by the hero's loss), then add 2 to the roll. The hero must spend an extra week recovering, probably in Monte Carlo or Switzerland somewhere.
Now, a word of warning. While heroes come and go, it's considered bad form for a hero to be injured but for someone else who's basically the same to come along to take their place. As Alan Quatermain is the first named hero to be a casualty I will take him as an example, though this example is not intended as a slur on Malamute's character, just as I say a demonstration of the point. If Alan Quatermain is for example out of action for the next five weeks, in three weeks time I do not want to hear the 'Alec Watermain, the best Big Game Hunter that you've never heard of (though he's constantly being mistaken for some other guy)' has turned up on Atlantis.
My suggestion is that if a hero is out of action for a little while, it might be time to promote someone else to heroic adventurer status. Name a dashing Lieutenant, or a wily NCO, or some adventuring type - a gunslinger, a big game hunter, a fencing champion - from among the ranks of your force, and let them carry out the heroic duties for a bit.
OK; that's how injuries are going to work. It's not quite realistic, but I'd like anyone with a 'dead' hero to really do the die-roll and post the result on here. I'll decide, on hearing the circumstances of 'death', what the modifier should be.
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Now, this all very well but... is the hero even with his own army? Or has he been left under a collapsed building/mammoth/steam-contrivance somewhere? That's why we need to know who controls
the Field of Battle
If the hero's army or unit was within a reasonable distance at the point of 'death' (that must depend on the game, but for 25-28mm games we can assume 6" or 15cm) then the hero is automatically rescued, unless the unit was subsequently wiped out.
Likewise if the hero's side decisively won the battle, then the hero is automatically rescued.
If the opposition forces decisively won the battle, and the hero's own forces hadn't already rescued him (as in the first example above), the hero is definitely captured.
In all other circumstances, the hero must roll a d6:
on a roll of 1-2, the hero has escaped (crawled under cover of darkness back to his own lines etc);
on a roll of 5-6 he has been captured by the enemy who 'killed' him;
on a roll of 3-4, he has found his way into the hands of a neutral 3rd party - generally, this will be Atlanteans (though Atlantean heroes will have to arrange to be captured by someone else) and almost always this will involve being nursed back to health by a beautiful Atlantean Princess or Priestess (unless your hero's a woman of course, in which case it better be a chap who captures her because Queen Victoria didn't believe women got up to 'that sort of thing').
In either the second or third case above, a special game must be played to 'rescue' the captured hero. In this game the hero is counted as an objective only - they can't take part in the fighting because they're too badly injured. The rescuing force must move to his position and then move off the board by the same exit, 'carrying' the hero. If they succeed, the hero can then recuperate normally in their camp.
If the hero has been rescued from a 'neutral' party, the hero, when recovered, can be accompanied (for free) by either a unit from the neutral army, or a neutral hero, in all subsequent games, to represent variously the bodyguard that their distracted lover has sent, the brother of the distracted lover who has vowed that the hero will survive to do the right thing by his sister, or the distracted lover him- or her-self (or whatever variant of that seems most appropriate).
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OK; on the question of units and re-inforcements: these following are suggestions only, because different rule sets have different ways of dividing units, allocating points and all that stuff.
Units of regualr infantry reduced to less than half strength in battle are assumed to be wiped out. Any spare troopers are assumed to make up the holes in units that survive under-strength. So if you start the battle with 10 Uberheim Rifles and 10 Grossburg Line Infantry, and you're reduced to 6 Uberheim Rifles and 2 Grossburg Line Infantry, you may start the next battle with 10 Uberheim Rifles. 2 of the other troopers are assumed to 'recover' in a similar way to heroes, but without all the dice rolls.
For cavalry, roll a d6; on 1-4, the unit can come back in the next battle, even if it was wiped out (all the horses ran away in the first battle when attacked by the steam-crocodiles, but came back later). On 5-6, it can come back at half strength. If this is not possible due to the rules you use, sorry, that unit is out of action for that battle.
For contraptions, also roll a d6; on 1-5 the contraption is repaired. On a 6, it is not. Sorry again, you can't use it in the next battle.
Whatever the results of any of these, the results of a battle only cover the next battle. By battle 3, 10 more Grossburg Line Infantry have arrived from wherever they're coming from. Of course, the Uberheim Rifles may have suffered further casualties by this point...
I think that should all work out OK, but if there are any really compelling reasons why not to do what I've suggested, I'm quite happy that you throw it out the window! But; whatever you do, please post the info here to let us all know how Mr Quatermain is doing, what the state of the Uberheim Rifles is, and whether Cuddles the Re-animated Allosaurus is out of bed! The world public wants to know!
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Is it too late to join in the fun on this one? If not I have an Aeronef battle report (British vs French) ready, there's no pictures this time unforunately.
Haarken
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Not too late at all; there are still some parts of Atlantis that haven't yet been invaded by moderns, and of the parts that have been, well, there's always the possibility of a sneak attack on the ghastly Britishers, treacherous Hun, despicable French or damned Yankees (insert any other country you might be opposed to as you see fit).
That goes for everyone else too - the conquest of Atlantis is continuing, but like the scramble for Africa in the real 1890s, it wasn't over in 2 months...
If anyone wants to get involved, PM me and we'll start to work something out; and if anyone who's already involved thinks I haven't been in touch for a while, PM me too - the book-keeping is a nightmare and I freely admit I'm getting lost and people are metaphorically slipping down the back of the Electric Sofa. Remind me who you are and what forces you have, and I'll get on the case.
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Hi Red Orc,
If we have allocated different players to different parts of Atlantis we can also allocate some of the basics of the book keeping.
Remember the original concept of the campaign was actually to not have too much book keeping with most player groups handling their own bookkeeping. I am worried you may be making to much work for yourself. As a person who has run several campaigns at my own club I know how easy it is for this to happen ;)
Red Orc, you should get to have the fun bit where you get to collate the great battle reports into some sort of organised narrative and then put up a simple table showing which faction is winning in which province and which faction is winning overall. :D
Remember for this campaign to work we need to follow the KISS principle at all times.
Regarding my own sphere of operations; now that the Zambesi campaign has ended in total disaster for the British (battle report to follow soon). The British have despatched the HMES Hermes to investigate the south eastern regions of atlantis.
Cheers
Fuzzy.
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As I have had a fairly excited exchange of PMs with Herr Orc:
1. Me and whatever players I can coerce into a game. (Anyone else in Charleston SC yet? Please? Echo? Echo? Echo?)
2. A small British exploration force separated from its main regiment during the crossing, led by Sir Robert Delabrough, versus a trio (at the moment) of Venusian bastards and their pets.
3. I'll be using a mashup of Rattrap games, most notably Gloire Fantastic Worlds, and the games will center around a network of skull-like temples, possibly connected to a network of underground caverns.
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Hi mate,
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If we have allocated different players to different parts of Atlantis we can also allocate some of the basics of the book keeping.
Remember the original concept of the campaign was actually to not have too much book keeping with most player groups handling their own bookkeeping. I am worried you may be making to much work for yourself. As a person who has run several campaigns at my own club I know how easy it is for this to happen ;)...
Fair enough, you're certainly talking sense. On the other hand we were maybe thinking there'd be several of us actually co-ordinating the action; at the moment, the 'behind the scenes' stuff is mostly down to me and Christian - he's decided that he's not really going to get around to playing, which will give him more time to help out with paperwork, collating reports, and hopefully working up an 'Encyclopedia Atlantica', a kind of universal refernce work for the campaign. Sad in one way (that he's not gaming) but bloody useful from my point of view!
... you should get to have the fun bit where you get to collate the great battle reports into some sort of organised narrative and then put up a simple table showing which faction is winning in which province and which faction is winning overall. :D...
Tried to do this a bit with the 'campaign maps'... it's still to early to say who's 'winning', but if I was to plump for anyone, it would be the British based solely on the fact that they have more forces in the field than anyone else, even if some of them have taken a beating! There are four British armies, and now two aeronef fleets, in the Atlantean theatre. Three of the armies have lost a battle I think - but then again, at least two of those have also won one (I think). Japan, on the other hand, has two armies, one of which has taken an island without a fight, the other is played-two-won-one-lost-one with the British.
But the Confederate States, who haven't fought a battle yet, also haven't been beaten... the French haven't been beaten either, and have inflicted a crushing defeat on the British, but they only have land forces in south-east Atlantis - one army, to the British 4, and one nef fleet, to 2 British. So it's all still to play for.
...Remember for this campaign to work we need to follow the KISS principle at all times...
"Keep It Simple, Stupid"? Yeah. I tried that. Then I thought of this great way of... :D You know when people who are really into minis get that mad-dog "ooh shiney!" look in their eyes? I'm a bit like that with rules and background. I have to say, Bullshott is the absolute master of asking me a couple of fairly simple questions, then getting 12 paragraphs of complex reply where I fail to really answer anything. I'm trying to micro-manage too much, it's true. I'll try to lighten up a bit. Now, Orc, remember to breathe...
...Regarding my own sphere of operations; now that the Zambesi campaign has ended in total disaster for the British (battle report to follow soon). The British have despatched the HMES Hermes to investigate the south eastern regions of atlantis.
Cheers
Fuzzy.
Good to know that the British Steam Empire will soon be sending more men and materiel to crash in flames over some corner of a foreign land... it's what we do, God damn it!
And, in other news, welcome Froggy! Adventurous escapades rather than regimental manoeuvrings seem to be the order of the day, it'll be very interesting watching the change of pace!
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Dispatch from H.M.S. Katherine, 15 February 1890:
Admiral Radslip,
I regret to inform you that the deep-survey aeronef H.M.S. St. George is now feared lost with all hands, location unknown. Following a report of strange architectural artifacts not matching any known Atlantean structures at ten past noon on the 11th, the commander Lord Robert Delabrough signaled that the St. George would investigate a purported meteor strike some miles off. One further garbled transmission received two hours later, and no further contact, though land-based scouts report an explosion deep in the Atlantean jungle.
Our search and rescue operation resulted in failure. Please convey our deepest condolences to Lady Sarai, Lord Delabrough's widow.
Respectfully,
Captain Horatio Agglethorpe
H.M.S. Katherine.
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Official Bulletin.
London, March 3 1890.
On the morning of Monday, the 1st of March, an aero-naval engagement took place off the coast of Atlantis.
The 13th Cruiser Squadron consisting of the Exeter class cruiser HMS Atropos and the Ralwalpindi class cruiser HMS Panther along with six Patrol Aeronefs engaged a French Cruiser Squadron and it's escorts as it attempted to enter the British Landing Area.
HMS Panther upon which the brunt of the fighting fell after being seperated in thick smoke from the rest of it's squadron was lost to accurate and heavy fire from what was identified as the Jeanne La Pucelle class cruiser Sans Pareil.
The cruiser HMS Atropos engaged the L'Epee class commerce raider La Gloire in a protracted gunnery duel that resulted in the loss of the French cruiser and left HMS Atropos severely damaged.
The British light forces emerged from the action relatively unscathed whilst having dealt the opposing French destroyers a great deal of damage. Praise must be heaped upon Commander David Scott of HMS Fearless who directed such an accurate barrage upon the destroyer Revanche that it struck it's colours early in the action whilst remaining relatively undamaged.
The French raiders broke off the action at the sight of large smoke plumes upon the horizon which heralded the arrival of the 10th Battle Squadron. A prize crew from HMS Fearless boarded the Revanche and the ship was towed back to the newly established British base and has been taken into the Royal Navy as HMS Revenge.
Rear Admiral George Alexander Maitland
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Excellent post and great too see more Nef action going on as well :D
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A bulletin just recieved at a major (Pro-confederate) London Newspaper:
"Confederate settlement of New Atlanta savagely attacked by brutal forces of Greater Germany STOP Confederate forces take heavy casualties in heroic defence against seaborne attackers STOP Significant proportion of Settler population slain by invaders STOP Town in flames STOP Confederate stragglers & refugees seen fleeing into heartland of Atlantis, accompanied by friendly indigeneous personel STOP More news to follow with mail packet STOP J Melksham STOP Message ends.
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In light of the recent battles, especially those involving German forces (overwhelmingly drawn from Prussia), I've updated the Eastern regional map:
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiseastzones2.jpg~original)
That should be it, it shows the successful attack on the Confederate States' positions around 'New Atlanta' (now 'Neu-Brandenburg') on the east coast, and the ongiong attempts by the Prussians in the south to fight off the British while also taking a large Atlantean city.
Nef action, though it has been occurring, is very difficult to mark on a map like this, and anyway, unlike land forces, once nefs and airships have fought a battle, they tend to go away again. But, after the odd early disaster, the British seem to be slowly winning the sky-battles against both the Germans and the French.
More updates as information becomes available.
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I am happy to join, current forces heading for Atlantis will be aeroneff squadrons from Germany, Britian, Russia, Italy and the USA. Rick & Richard current players. Ships available are on my blog:
http://worldhistoryprof.blogspot.com/search/label/Aeroneff
The games afoot-on ward to Atlantis!
Thanks Red Orc.
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Good to have you onboard, and nice to see that the Russians and Italians are getting in the action - they don't have any ground forces on Atlantis, but I would think that if nothing else, they'll want to keep an eye on what the Germans and French are up to!
USA has ground forces in two locations in the west of Atlantis, but only small support nefs; I'm sure the USMC fellows at Port Harrison will be chearing the arrival of the big guns.
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Now just need a posted map of the other sides action on the West coast of Atlantis!
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Your wish is my command... not updated recently as the action t'other week was actually to the south of this map, so this is the situation as of 1st March, 1890.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiswestzones.jpg~original)
Think that should work...
...though it does look like the map has been slightly water-damaged. Retrieved from a downed 'nef, perhaps? Must be ... can't be my rubbish skills with the drawing software!
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The expected action did not happen for Lord Robert Delabrough and company this week, but long-lost daguerrotypes of their expedition might be discovered soon and posted even now, over a century later...
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Correction to notes on the published West Coast map:
Thre was no Battle of Port Harrison - this is another example of inaccurate Prussian Propaganda! This 'battle' refers to an attack on a civilian geological survey by Koshindan raiders some 20 miles to the south of Port Harrison. When the raiders eventually faced the firepower of the US Marines they withdrew with thieir prisonners rather than be cut down like the dogs they are. United States of America have noted this raid and will respond in due course with maximum prejudice.
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1) Warbeads, solo play Aeronef actions initially
2) Brazil and Argentina, possibly a third South American or Spanish faction later...
3) Aeronef actions possible currently.
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The Falklands British Aeronef Flotilla flanks the Argentine Areonef fleet in a surprise move, devestating them!
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We don' need no stinkin' flanks!
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Dispatch from the H.M.S, Katherine to the Admirality, March 18, 1890:
It appears that the crew of the H.M.S. St. George is not all lost. Signals were received from the ship today, but so faint as to admit no possibility of triangulation. The St. George reports that it is unflyable but otherwise intact. They report foraging crews encountering native forces, as well as the wounding and capture of Lord Delabrough and the loss of all men on the party. Requesting further orders...
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Captain Fonda looked out from the cave entrance. The terrible weather of the past three weeks had finally abated, meanung that the prospects for the coming day’s fight were good; he would be able to use the ‘nef Rio Grande for support and the ground would bee good underfoot (he hated fighting in the rain).
He took out his pocket watch and checked the time under the light of a lantern. Seeing that it was two hours before dawn he signalled to Sergeant Bronson to wake the men.
As the men roused themselves Fonda checked the coffee pot, which turned out to be still warm. He poured himself a cup, then set about checking his revolver. He checked the mechanism and began to load the gun, but found his hand was shaking too much. “Concentrate man!“ he thought “It wouldn’t do for the men to see you shaking like a rookie”. To take his mind off the forthcoming fight he pondered the events that had brought him to this place.
Three weeks ago Captain Heston’s men had a bloody encounter with the pirates and their Sanwar allies on Pyramid Island. The battle had achieved nothing for the Americans, other than getting several good marines killed or wounded. The pirates had departed as swiftly as they had arrived.
Around the same time, the academics in Zdolgath, the native city nearest to Port Harrison, made a breakthrough in understanding the local native languages. Within a few days they found themselves able to converse with the northern Atlanteans (a semi-nomadic people whose culture apparently resembled that of primative Europeans) and, using the northerners as translators, had begun to learn the language of the ‘civilised’ Altanteans.
On learning that the white men could understand their language, a group of tribesmen from the fjordlands to the north had approached the Americans with interesting news. They told of brown-skinned men who came from the sky and raided their villages; stealing their flocks and killing anyone who resisted with “staves that spat fire and smoke” and “metal guardians with cruel blades”. Then one of the men produced a bag, from which he produced the bloated head of a man with brown skin and North African features. A Koshindan raider!
Of further interest was the news that the raiders appeared to have made a camp amongst some old ruins about four days march to the north of Zdolgath. The tribesmen said that they had seen this place and there appeared to be white men held prisoner there. They would have attacked this camp if it wasn’t for the threat that the metal guardians posed. However, if the white men wanted to attack the raiders the tribesmen would provide them with guides.
This was too good a chance to miss for the Americans. The raiders were known to have captured young Henry ‘Idaho’ Smith, son of Senator Smith, while accompanying a survey team working for his father’s New England Mining Company. If Smith was among the prisoners it would be a coup for the marines if they could free him; not only would they have dealt a blow to the raiders but Senator Smith was a major supporter of the Navy. If his son was released it would certainly help in freeing-up reinforcements for the American expedition.
The clatter of men of men arming themselves and the smell of the Iron Man suit’s coal-fired engine starting up brought Fonda out of his thoughts. He loaded the final shell into his revolver and closed the cylinder. Then he looked at his mixed command as they readied themselves in the lamplight at the back of the deep cave that had been their home this night.
The marines needed no orders as to what to do. Tough, professional soldiers and veterans of a tour on Venus, these men would go to hell and back without question.
Further back, Chief McQueen’s sailors readied themselves, cursing at having to fight on foot but ready all the same for what was to come. The chief and his men had been chosen from survivors of a survey steamer that had been wrecked in the fjordlands. During their week-long trek back to the American-controlled area they had become familiar with the terrain this expedition now found themselves in.
Finally, he considered 2nd Lieutenant Abner Ravenwood. Fonda did not know why Ravenwood had joined the marines (he was too bookish and never quite fitted in with the marines), but he was glad for him now. Ravenwood had been assigned to the marine guard detail for Professor Shanks’ anthropologists and archaeologists in Zdolgath, with whime he smmed at times to have more in comon then the other Marines officers. His temperament meant that he got on well with the academics and, once the key to the northern Atlantean language had been fathomed, his gift for languages soon had him conversing with the northern tribesmen. Now he had proved his worth as liaison officer with their native guides.
A face appeared out of the morning gloom. It was Sergeant Bronson, fully armed and chewing on a cigar. Time for action.
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ooh goody can't wait :)
cheers
Fuzzy
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US Marines Release Pirate Captives
Quartermain Alive
US forces on Atlantis have announced a major victory over the Koshindan pirates. In a daring dawn raid US Marines, led by Captain Fonda, freed four white captives held by the pirates; including Idaho Smith (son of Senator Smith) and the famous British explorer Allan Quartermain. US casualties were light; comprising eight marines, one sailor and six native Atlantean scouts, although it is with regret that one captive also lost his life (shot in the back by a pirate). By contrast, the Koshindans lost twenty seven men (including five Europeans) and two automatons destroyed.
Lieutenant Colonel Wayne, commanding officer of US forces in Port Harrison, said that the high bodycount and kill ratio was a credit to the US forces involved and praised Captain Fonda for his leadership. He has also recommended Chief Petty Officer McQueen for a special commendation; for leading his naval landing party in deadly hand-to-hand fighting during the initial assault, despatching pirate guards with extreme predjudice.
Full details of this action here : http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=17496.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=17496.0)
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News from our field reporter Ernest Wallington III on location in Atlantis: While on assignment with a patrol unit of Her Majesties Royal Marines, the remains of a missing scientific expedition was found at the out skirts of a lost city. The bodies had both stab wound and bite marks. Among the remains was a camera that contained astounding evidence of the existance of an all new species of powerful semi-inteligent creatures. Scientists are undecided as to if this is a natural creature or the more likely posibility that they are a manufactured creation of the bizzar sciences of Atlantis gone wild. What is known is that these creatures are powerful and very violent. With the kind permission of Her Majesties Government here is the first published photo of these creatures.(http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/ushistoryprof/Worldhistoryprof%20miniatures/002.jpg)
for additional photos check:
http://worldhistoryprof.blogspot.com/2010/03/lizardman-warriors-on-march.html
Explorers beware! God Save the Queen!
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Air Battle Reported over Atlantis.
As reported by our special correspondent Ernest Wallington III. Intercepts have been obtained from sources within Her Majesties Government that describe a large aeroneff engagement. Directional triangulation has placed the incident off the East Coast of Atlantis. Below are the messages, certain parts have been censored by the government and are identified by D.B.C. (Deleted By Censor).
Sighting report by SMS Blitzen- Unknown ships in restricted zone at … D.B.C…Ships appear to be cruisers and scouts. Closing for further identification.
SMS Blitzen reporting-it appears that the ships ar…….
Command to patrol squadron Wagner-investigate sighting of unknown force by SMS Blitzen at …D.B.C.… and failure of SMS Blitzen to respond to communications from command.
SMS Thor, commanding Squadron Wagner reporting-Large squadron of …D.B.C.… aeroneffs forces located at …D.B.C.… no sign of SMS Blitzen. Investigating.
SMS Thor reporting- …D.B.C.… refuses to acknowledge our hails. …D.B.C.… squadron is heading to …D.B.C.… in restricted zone. Request permission to use force if necessary to prevent further incursion.
SMS Frankfurt reporting-Thor heavily damaged, Kiel is burning, Hamburg, Metor & Kondor are destroyed. They have Battle Cruisers repeat Battle Cruisers. Request immediate assistance, repeat, request immediate assistance.
garbled- …troop transports, multiple troop transports…
Komet reporting-all surviving units heavily damaged, Commodore Eric Von Brauns is dead, Thor is gone, remaining ships retiring to base at …D.B.C.… Unable to stop incursion at …D.B.C.… the …D.B.C.… are here in force.
End Intercepts.
A review of Jane’s All the World Aeroneff Fleets identifies the SMS Thor as a Heavy Cruiser, the Hamburg, Frankfurt & Kiel as Light Cruisers, the Metor, Komet & Kondor as Destroyers and the Biltzen as a Scout. Obviously a powerful force has entered into play in the arena that is Atlantis.
God Save the Queen.
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Aeronef Action at Atlantis.
London, March 23 1890.
On the afternoon of the 21st of March, the cruiser HMS Minotaur and HMS Centaur were engaged in action with the French commerce raider Revenant and the light cruisers Formidabile and Patriote.
The 13th Cruiser Squadron consisting of HMS Minotaur and HMS Centaur intercepted the enemy squadron during a reconnaissance patrol of the south-western coasts of Atlantis.
HMS Minotaur and HMS Centaur engaged the French light cruisers with accurate fire as soon as they came within range of their guns, the first salvo from the Exeter class cruiser HMS Minotaur bracketed the Formidabile and within minutes the light cruiser was reduced to a burning wreck.
The L'Epee class commerce raider Revenant and the Formidabile class cruiser Patriote attempted to shelter the stricken Formidabile but with all of it's main armament out of action and under an increasingly accurate bombardment the light cruiser struck it's colours.
HMS Centaur whose gunnery duel with Patriote had been less effective closed the distance between the two ships with dramatic results, only the intervention of Revenant prevented HMS Centaur delivering the final blow.
Revenant whose gunfire had proven particularily ineffective in the early stages of the action closed with HMS Minotaur and the two vessels traded fire damaging each other heavily as action descended into a melee. Having allowed the Patriote to escape the Revenant now fell under the guns of both HMS Minotaur and HMS Centaur, despite skillful handling by it's Captain the Revenant was destroyed.
With Revenant dispatched HMS Centaur gave chase to the badly damaged Patriote. The light cruiser struck it's colours after a single salvo from the HMS Centaur disabled the Patriote's steering and put it's last gun out of action.
HMS Centaur dispatched the two slowly sinking wrecks with close range gunfire having embarked the remaining survivors from the two vessels. HMS Minotaur and HMS Centaur both received moderate damage but are immediately ready for action.
Commodore George Henry Jackson
Another British victory. This time this one was much more decisive, the fleets were pretty evenly matched (both had a total of 20 gun points whilst the British had 48 hull points to the French 47) but the British inflictated 44 damage points on the French whilst the French only inflicted 27 damage points. The French have now lost 2 L'Epee class commerce raiders, 2 Formidable class light cruisers and 1 Vaillante class destroyer for the loss of 1 Rawalpindi class cruiser. No pictures of the battle as the French as they are still wearing their undercoat but i'll post up some pictures of my British later on.
Haarken
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General Communiqué from His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland- Be it known to all that his Imperial Majesty proclaims the formation of this fief in his ownership for all time. All hitherto claimants by natives or other European governments of the area sometimes known as “island of native site 15,” Atlantis are now null and void. All territories, properties, valuables, minerals, sciences and persons of this area are now under the benevolent protection, leadership and control of His Imperial Majesty Alexandrovich III, Tsar of All the Russia’s. Any interference will be ruthlessly dealt with, as was the case of the recent unfortunate incident with mislead units of the German Imperial Aeroneff Navy. His Imperial Majesty regrets the loss of so valiant (if foolish) a man as Commander von Brauns and the many fine sailors under his command. Regardless of personal feelings, this land is now part of Greater Russia and will be defended as such!
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
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General Communiqué from His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland- Be it known to all that his Imperial Majesty proclaims the formation of this fief in his ownership for all time. All hitherto claimants by natives or other European governments of the area sometimes known as “island of native site 15,” Atlantis are now null and void. All territories, properties, valuables, minerals, sciences and persons of this area are now under the benevolent protection, leadership and control of His Imperial Majesty Alexandrovich III, Tsar of All the Russia’s. Any interference will be ruthlessly dealt with, as was the case of the recent unfortunate incident with mislead units of the German Imperial Aeroneff Navy. His Imperial Majesty regrets the loss of so valiant (if foolish) a man as Commander von Brauns and the many fine sailors under his command. Regardless of personal feelings, this land is now part of Greater Russia and will be defended as such!
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
Now this has got to be a temptation for the Japanese ...
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Eye that’l be right. >:(
Cum and get iit!!!
Major Duncan MacThegrassgrow
Commander of the Blackwatch on Her Majesty’s (Gaud Bless Er) Island of Atlantis :D
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March 26, 1890: Dispatch from the H.M.S. Katherine
Admiral Radslip,
The crew of the H.M.S. St. George is confirmed to still survive. Faint signals indicate their location to be near the site of an earlier lost expedition. Have transmitted the map coordinates for possible salvage but weather precludes a scouting mission at this time. They report heavy fighting and the capture of a soldier of undertermined race while rescuing Lord Delabrough.
The H.M.S. St. George casualty reports are contradictory - current death count exceeds the crew complement of the vessel, yet they appear fully staffed. Please advise as to how next to proceed.
Respectfully,
Captain Horatio Agglethorpe
H.M.S. Katherine.
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From a scrap of journal discovered during the battle in the cavern - found by by Private Willoughby, formerly of the H.M.S. St. George:
X56, the third Fhloo of circadian 5994: From the journal of The Honorable Kro, once Vizier of this province of the Thulcandra colonies
"It is now the fifth cycle underground with this insufferable Thulcandrian ape. It used to be that these primitive creatures could recognize their betters and offer proper obesience. No more, it appears. Whatever changed the stars three months ago appears to have given these natives not only a spine but frightfully efficient weaponry, the likes of which we have not seen since the initial conquest.
It is most curious. For the first three cycles of interrogation, the ape calling himself "Raw burtdela broe" made no response as we prodded him through the bars of his cell. Instead he sat and studied us, his head cocked slightly in the manner of the native felines. Two cycles ago he abruptly began conversing with us in our own speech with a highly noble accent and idiom. This was of course markedly shocking, especially when Cleandra mistook his voice for mine and nearly unlocked the cell on his word.
I must have a word with that girl, for though her training is of course flawless, there is something lacking of the warrior in her. Her sister Delzedra of course carries my complete confidence. I doubt that she has a polite word for anyone but me and her sister. This is as it should be.
I must now turn this journal to the matter at hand, being these very caverns in which we are momentarily interred until I decide the disposition of our prisoner. Feeding him to the scuttlers seems almost too easy, yet I must admit great amusement at their eagerness to attack him given any opportunity at all.
These caverns long predate any Perelandrian conquest. The glyphs carven in living rock tell of marvels, but in a cipher I cannot yet penetrate. It hints of an Atlantean golden age - I here use the natives' own name for this province of Thulcandra - replete with wonders whose origins I cannot fathom. It may be that they are of technological, magical, or both. There is a strong sense of superstitial occult over all of it, and further hints of something lurking deeper in the network of caverns.
I must here point out that Delzedra has heard me muttering and assets her dominance in the matter of lurking in the deeps. Having seen her fight on my behalf innumerable times I must agree more than a little.
The girls and the scuttlers are searching deeper in the caverns for more carvings. I must send them outside next - I have heard screaming from the apes I thought we killed. . ."
More now is known of the mysterious assailants besetting the ill-fated Delabrough expedition. Following my own capture of the Venusian known in this aforeseen journal as "Cleandra" - an achievement I hope will in due course earn me a promotion - , interrogations and fact-finding are in progress while we investigate a curious wreck in the jungle. This wreck appears to be a quadrupedal steam-conveyance, used by a former British expedition to explore the swampland - though there is no swampland nearby. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice once said...
--From the journal of Private Willoughby.
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General Communiqué from His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland-
It has been necessary to discipline the native serf population of His Imperial Majesties new port city of Smirnoff, formerly know as port #15. The foolish serfs refused the commands of his Imperial Majesties provisional mayor-Colonel Demetri Durmnitt, 2nd Guards Mechanical Cavalry. After a brief but successful engagement between the 2nd Guards Mechanical Cavalry, 17th and 92nd Line Infantry Regiments, 4th Naval Brigade and the 23rd Field Artillery Regiment vs. undisciplined native serfs. Colonel Demetri reluctantly called upon the services of the 3rd Imperial Aeroneff Bombardment Squadron to level a portion of the native quarter. In the Captains words, “it was necessary to destroy the root of the evil to save the natives from themselves.” The area bombarded is scheduled to be rebuilt with a series of Dacha’s for the Governor his staff and assorted dignitaries. A valuable lesson has been learned by the serfs-obedience is the only option.
On a more pleasant note, scientists from the St. Petersburg Institute of Discoveries and Advancements have announced the finding of a hitherto unknown temple site in …censored… section of Vodkaland. New wonders have been discovered and will soon be shared with the world.
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
The command section of the 23rd Artillery before their successful engagement with the serf natives in Smirnoff.
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:D and :o
Excellent reporting there chaps! What other secrets will Pvt. Willoughby reveal? How will the native settlement fare when the Tsar's aerofleet (is the word I'm looking for actually 'Aeroflot'?) bombards it?
We await events with much agogness!
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Is it too late for me to join in?
I haven't got a definate gaming group, but I am planning on getting people round my house (girlfriend permitting) and maybe a few games at Scimitar Wargames group. Possibly even Abingdon if Overlord pipes up!
I guess my force will be Prussians, but there is room for:
Anarchist (deserters and pirates)
Russian
French
American
British (veterans from Mars)
Japanese
:)
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Is it too late for me to join in?
I haven't got a definate gaming group, but I am planning on getting people round my house (girlfriend permitting) and maybe a few games at Scimitar Wargames group. Possibly even Abingdon if Overlord pipes up!
I guess my force will be Prussians, but there is room for:
Anarchist (deserters and pirates)
Russian
French
American
British (veterans from Mars)
Japanese
:)
Come on in Rob the water's fine. By all means bring your Russians, there is lots of room to expand the Imperial Colony of Vodkaland (the land of Milk & Potatoes). We are having some problems with the locals, Europeans etc. and your help would be appreciated.
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lol, atm I only have the Tsar himself and his bodyguard. Half a unit!
They are WIP.
The biggest force so far are the Prussians... :)
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lol, atm I only have the Tsar himself and his bodyguard. Half a unit!
They are WIP.
The biggest force so far are the Prussians... :)
No problem Rob, the Russian's will be waiting when ever your ready. Who knows what stories could come from a visit from the Tsar, attempted kidnaping, crashed flyers who knows. Anyway there's lots of room for the rest of your forces (I have a group of British and allied scientists running crazy on the Westside of Atlantis too), the more the better.
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Absolutely there's room and time for you to join in; and that goes for anyone else too. Drop me a PM and we'll start to work out details.
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Just played my first game, now what do I do?
I took pics and everything, but they will have to come later. I'm at my parents'. :)
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Post a bit of story here in the form of a game report or somesuch (see prior posts for examples) and then post a battle report thread. Remember, whatever date the battle happened on, that's the date in 1890 the battle took place in-campaign.
At least, that's what I'd suggest. I don't know that there are any actual hard and fast rules.
Oh, and due to the scheduling conflicts of the Ineffable Overlords, Lord Delabrough and his surviving men have retreated underground, there to interrogate their prisoner (the Venusian woman Cleandra, responsible for gunning down so many men) and to digest the information thus far received. This includes the mysterious regeneration of many of the soldiers' lost arms, legs, chests, and in one case, head.
It must be said that The Honorable Kro and Cleandra's sister Delzedra, to say nothing of their scuttling pets, are none too pleased. Retribution is long-windedly and poetically vowed.
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@ Rob, exactly as Froggy says - post a report, as if the battle happened exactly 120 years before the date it did.
You can either post a brief skeletal report now, maybe saying that there are unconfirmed reports of an engagement between forces of x and y, then when you get back home and can upload the pics, you can do a full report - 'more details have emerged about the recent clash at such-and-such' or whatever; or you can leave it for the moment, wait a couple of days and do one report with all the info and pics, but explain that it's about a battle that happened a few days ago. Whichever way seems most sensible to you.
When you do though, I think there's definitely an attempt by most of us to do it 'in character', as if it's a newspaper story or an official communique, or as Froggy is doing it,excerpts from people's journals. But you don't have to do it like that if you don't want.
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It must be said that The Honorable Kro and Cleandra's sister Delzedra, to say nothing of their scuttling pets, are none too pleased. Retribution is long-windedly and poetically vowed.
You've got to love theatrical baddies and their tirades against those that interfere with their plots... I think that's why Alan Rickman always likes playing the bad guy, they get the best lines.
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The Defence of Wolvechapel
A minor skirmish played between the Prussians and the British for the Oxfordshire hamlet of Wolvechapel.
Testimony of the surviving ranking British officer, Sergent Bare Dated 4th April 1890
"So me and the lads were told to hold the town of Whitechapel, or was it Wolvechappe?, never mind, from the Prussians. Sure enough, soon after we arrived we were attacked. The outnumbered us two to one id say, but old Capt Anderson, and Sergeant Perry led from the front. We had a good old Baradly and Kingston stam tank too. But them Prussians had theses amazing clockwork men! And a tank of their own.
Anyway their line advanced towards Wolvechapel. Their officers were nowhere near as good as ours, falling over or dropping their weapons, but still they came on. Our six pounder was brought forward and captain Anderson charged forward. An amazing sight it was. Sergeant Perry and the steam tank charged to our left, with his squad in tow. The mechanised men, led by their captain made slow progress on the left, while their main force and the tank rolled forward towards my unit.
I had the men form up and we exchanged volleys with the enemy ahead of us. Their light infantry took the brunt of the attack, while their tank and ours traded blows. It became clear that neither one had the power to penetrate the others armour.
The Prussian light diverted towards the six pounder as Captain Anderson scaled a tree. Before I could wonder his logic I saw Sergeant Perry get mown down by a jet of hot steam coming from the clockwork men. His squad was in disarray, and scattered. Worse was to come, as the Prussian tank turned its guns on us, and bullets began to fly around us.
Worse was to come as Captain Anderson was felled shooting at the Prussian light from the trees. His sacrifice was not in vain, as the Prussians were distracted long enough for the six pounder crew to load canister and fire. Only two were left standing.
To our left, the clockwork men reached our steam tank and poured fire into it. The tank detonated, killing their commander but leaving them unharmed. At least I think he was killed.
But things got bleak as my own squad broke, and the six pounder was over run. The Prussian tank closed in. Even a suicidal attack by the remainder of Sergeant Perry’s men did nothing. They were just torn apart by the guns of the Prussian infantry.
Inspired by their bravery, several of my men ran to do the same, several fled. But as they attacked the great Aeronef Jack of the Green arrived. Seeing us in the village still, it reigned fire on to the Prussians, and being leaderless they fled. The tank looked to consider overrunning us, but with no support it retreated also.
If was victory and yet felt like not victory for us. We lost brave men in Captain Anderson and Sergeant Perry. The skilled six pounder crew were all dead, but their gun was recovered. The steam tank was not recoverable however. We found several broken clockwork men. They have been sent to the royal society for study. No trace of their dead leader was found, he could have been incinerated by the steam tank blast.
I recommend a posthumous promotion for Anderson and Perry and a monument erected in their honour when time permits.
I hope this report reaches you in good time for it to make a difference.
God Save the Queen!
Sergent Bare"
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This was the game Rob played I belive, as I was GMing it lol
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Crickey! :o The Prussian attempt to claim Atlantis before the British establish themselves, has spilled over into Oxfordshire! Or more pausibly, knowing the British are extended on all fronts, not only in Atlantis but in India, South Africa and the Caribbean, the sneaky young Kaiser has decided to use these distractions to launch a sneak raid in an attempt to kidnap his grandmother, Queen Victoria - or something!
I await future revelations about how - and why - the Prussians managed to make it to central England with much interest!
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The latest news from the Atlantean Campaign, where there have been developments in the south-east costal area.
The latest positions are shown on this map of the east coast -
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiseastzones3.jpg)
- which shows the Russian expedition to the north-east islands, a Prussian attempt to cut the British supply routes to the south by capturing an island between the Japanese and British zones, and a note that there are persistent rumours that British forces are active in extreme west of this region.
Further rumours about Argentinian, Belgian, Dutch and Italian forces have not been confirmed by this reporter.
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Crickey! :o The Prussian attempt to claim Atlantis before the British establish themselves, has spilled over into Oxfordshire! Or more pausibly, knowing the British are extended on all fronts, not only in Atlantis but in India, South Africa and the Caribbean, the sneaky young Kaiser has decided to use these distractions to launch a sneak raid in an attempt to kidnap his grandmother, Queen Victoria - or something!
I await future revelations about how - and why - the Prussians managed to make it to central England with much interest!
Must have been a big mole!
I would have put it in as a general game, but didn't realise Rich had written some wonderful background. No worries, I will be running my next game on Atlantis!
Cheers for the game Rich, it wasa great insight into GASLIGHT and very fun. Hannah enjoyed it too, so I imagine she would play future games too.
I'll stick some photos up elsewhere, when I get home from my parents'.
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No problem dude. The next game i think up will provide the link between Wolvechapel and Atlantis....
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ooooh!
Cool.
I've been writing some background myself, but that will go elsewhere as it is rather more colonial martian than anything. :)
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A reporter from the Glasgow Evening Herald, in bedded with the Blackwatch 2nd Battalion, has sent a quick dispatch from the continent of Atlantis.
A villainous sneak attack was carried out on a forward Aeronef supply depot on the British right flank last night. This dastardly, cowardly attack was carried out by forces of the Imperial Chinese Government.
Sources within the British forces on Atlantis (BFOA) have stated that Chinese supposed impartiality towards the continent has been a ruse and the British forces in the area will now take the fight to the bounders and show them who’s island this is!
Full story including full colour photographs from the “optimovisorTM"to follow.
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Latest News from Intrepid Explorers in Atlantis
Filed with the Times by Ernest Wallington III
From a “secret” location in Atlantis a runner has brought the following information from the “Logbottom Expedition.” Having sighted unknown ruins deep in the jungle, the Royal Academy sponsored expedition, current lead by Sir Bitford Logbottom VI, has begun a comprehensive study of the site. The wonders exposed may soon usher in a new understanding of this lost continent. Unfortunately the expedition has run afoul of the primitive natives and has suffered the loss of several key members. If it had not been for the foresight of the London committee to supply the expedition with defensive weapons and the quick thinking of Sir Bitford, “use the d…d Nordenfelt d…d you,” much worse may have befallen the explorers! The lizardman assault was beaten back and science marches on. The expedition has announced that they have discovered, and will soon release information on, a hitherto unknown source of power that may revolutionize air and sea shipping. Below is a picture of the brave Sir Bitford in action with the Nordenfelt.
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Post Script-Soon after filing this report, Ernest Wallington III has informed the Times that all communication with the Royal Academy expedition and Sir Bitford has been lost. A search by members of the Royal Air Service and troops from of the 17th Lancers and 24th Foot has been initiated.
God Save The Queen!
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Terrible news about the Natives giving you trouble, they've been quite friendly around here.
Now, someone with skill get that picture turned into a set of figures immediately!!!
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Now, someone with skill get that picture turned into a set of figures immediately!!!
Pinkertons with a Nordenfelt?
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Anarchists with Nordenfeldt!!! :)
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Pinkertons with a Nordenfelt?
Exactly! I need 3 sets at least!
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Also announced is the massacre of another peaceful British scientific expedition this time by vile Chinese forces. Surprisingly they were also looking at a new power source for making their tea!
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Latest news about clashes between the Chinese and British forces clashing in the delta between the two landing sites mean a re-jigging of zones of influence; the British have been forced on the defensive and have lost a certain amount of territory.
Currently, the balance of forces in the west looks something like this:
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/AtlantisWestZones2.jpg)
Intriguing. It looks like the Chinese and Japanese may perhaps soon meet up in the forests east of the British landing. There's a border stand-off I might not necessarily want to get in the way of!
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Looks like the British pimple in is about to be popped by the forces of the East. While Western Atlantis will soon be the rightful domain of the Tsar.
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
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cough, cough errm, I think you mean Eastern Atlantis will soon be the domain of the Tsar... unless you're planning a really bold outflanking manoeuvre!
(Which I would really love to see, obviously!)
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cough, cough errm, I think you mean Eastern Atlantis will soon be the domain of the Tsar... unless you're planning a really bold outflanking manoeuvre!
(Which I would really love to see, obviously!)
East, West what's difference, Russians think in grand terms.
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
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Red Orc I will send you the details of various named characters that were wounded in our last game.
At the rate they are going down I will need to hurry up and paint some more or I will have nobody left to command the armies.
Also I need to think about building a hospital model as the wee tent I built is getting very full.
Built this before
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/1912_08_04_10_12_12_09_2.JPG)
need this with the amount of characters I have wounded
(http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/43871/1337409642057253141S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1337409642057253141CWRDBO)
:D
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Shouldn't this be have a Child-Board, so that all the battle reports belonging to the campaign can be collected with the main thread?
Sadly, I do not have forces (yet) for VSF, so I won't be able to contribute, but I'm following the campaign wioth great interest....
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I'd leave it in here, Child-boards quite often reduce interest for posters as it's another level of navigation etc.
I've been stating up some forces for an Atlantis game to try out the 'Showdown' rules set for it. So I should have something to post relatively soon.
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That's good to hear Dewbakuk, I was wondering if the Collegium's expedition was going to announce new plans.
Argonor, in one way that would be a good thing, but also, Dewbakuk is right that it tends to cut off 'passing interest'. Really, I just need to be better about rounding up that week's Atlantis threads and posting them on the main sticky. I'm rubbish at the housekeeping.
Gamer Mac, I'd love to see you build that hospital! PM sent regarding the latest casualties...
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Yeah, it's been a bit quiet since the big game and most of my scenery has been stolen by Ramshackle Games to do photography with. I'm currently playing a Warmachine Menoth army to death in preparation for a tournament in a couple of months, currently we all play a bit slow for the timed aspect so we're trying to get faster :)
I need a bit more variety though so I'm sorting out several small forces and scenarios to play some Atlantis games. When Thunderchicken becomes free and comes up we'll get some games in with his renegade British too.
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... I'm currently playing a Warmachine Menoth Fanatical Spanish Catholic VSF army to death ...
Fixed.
Is there anything from Warmachine that you could import over to the Atlantis campaign? I guess it depends on a - what army you're playing agianst and b - whether you want to stop in the middle of a game and take photos, when you're trying to play faster.
But 'Spanish v Russians' doesn't sound too far-fetched for a battle on Atlantis, does it? Not that Menoth would fight Khador that often I suppose. D'oh!
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Fixed.
Is there anything from Warmachine that you could import over to the Atlantis campaign? I guess it depends on a - what army you're playing agianst and b - whether you want to stop in the middle of a game and take photos, when you're trying to play faster.
But 'Spanish v Russians' doesn't sound too far-fetched for a battle on Atlantis, does it? Not that Menoth would fight Khador that often I suppose. D'oh!
I use my Warmachine Khador troops for my Imperial Russian VSF Army, along with traditional trun of the century Russian infantry, artillery and cavalry minatures when needed. My son has Menoth and I like the idea of using them as Fanatic Spanish or Portuguese.
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It seemed the best fit, what with the desert-y style troops, the big almost-crosses plastered all over everything, the 'Inquisitorial' style of some of the minis, and the hints of Knightly Orders. That to me suggests the Spanish Inquisition.
And we all know about the Spanish Inquisition... lol
If I had the cash, I'd be buying Khador too for use as VSF Russians. How well (or how badly?) do they fit with other manufacturers' minis? I kinda got the idea that Privateer minis were pretty big compared to a lot of other comapnies.
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Is there anything from Warmachine that you could import over to the Atlantis campaign? I guess it depends on a - what army you're playing agianst and b - whether you want to stop in the middle of a game and take photos, when you're trying to play faster.
Some Warmachine jacks will also be making appearances with my Americans, now that I'm starting to put together the mining company and its guards.
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It seemed the best fit, what with the desert-y style troops, the big almost-crosses plastered all over everything, the 'Inquisitorial' style of some of the minis, and the hints of Knightly Orders. That to me suggests the Spanish Inquisition.
And we all know about the Spanish Inquisition... lol
If I had the cash, I'd be buying Khador too for use as VSF Russians. How well (or how badly?) do they fit with other manufacturers' minis? I kinda got the idea that Privateer minis were pretty big compared to a lot of other comapnies.
The man size troops fit well with the large 28mm lines although they are on the more "heavy" side-well fed and lots of muscle. The jacks look massive and good in any vsf army-lots of steam pipes, pistons etc. I like Kador the best for vsf, the Cygnar have a more wierd WWI feel with their trenchers etc. (see photo)
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Your Spanish Inquistion idea is right on target for Menoth, I am really going to push my son into using them in Atlantis now! The Inquisition in Atlantis-its the Conquistadors part II.
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The man size troops fit well with the large 28mm lines although they are on the more "heavy" side-well fed and lots of muscle. The jacks look massive and good in any vsf army-losts of steam pipes, pistons etc. I like Kador the best for vsf, the Cygnar have a more wierd WWI feel with their trenchers etc. (see photo)
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Your Spanish Inquistion idea is right on target for Menoth, I am really going to push my son into using them in Atlantis now! The Inquisition in Atlantis-its the Conquistadors part II.
In which case also look at Old Glory for budget Spanish line troops in their Spanish-American War range. Its also worth looking at Tiger miniatures for some of their support weapons (avoid the standard troops as they will look awful alongside the Warmachine stuff.
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From the journal of Private Netherby, 22 April 1890:
It is with great consternation, nay, bewilderment, that I write this. After weeks of slogging through this gaudforsaken jungle, hauling our prisoner along behind us, we came across a derelict steam-walker. We are not the first to cross this land, nor even the first British. This is quite curious.
We had nearly completed the repairs when the Venusian savages attacked. Many of us were cut down as we woke by enfilading fire, but Williams and I were able to repair the vehicle and escape. Lest the reader accuse us of cowardice, Lord Delabrough did order this as he was once again being dangled and broken by those thrice-damned scuttling betentacled hand-beasts.
Once the screaming stops, Williams and I plan to circle round and recover what we can from camp. Williams is sad that they freed their prisoner -- I believe the man may fancy the teal-skinned savage. Granted she is possessed of a great pulchritude, but I prefer my women to share a phylum with me, thank you...
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Granted she is possessed of a great pulchritude
Ahuh.... ;)
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General Communiqué from His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland
Imperial forces of the 1st Guards and 202nd Infantry and 10th Cossack Brigades, 2nd Guards Mechanical Cavalry, 23rd Artillery Regiment, 5th Armoured Automation Regiment and units of the Imperial Russian Aeroneff Forces Atlantis (IRAFA) have fully pacified His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland. The battle was brief and the interference of foreign interlopers has been crushed at little loss to Imperial forces (anyone responsible for the circulation any contradictory information or listing of specific numbers of losses will suffer the direst of consequences). The surviving colonial serfs of his Imperial Majesty fully embrace his enlightened leadership and have begun massive improvements of this benighted land.
Rumors of religious fanatics from Europe have been blown out of proportion to reality. Those few delude fools who have darkened this new continent will be expunged. Only fanaticism for the Tsar will be tolerated!
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
Post Script: Imperial forces have now landed on mainland Atlantis, in former area#16 now Anastasiaville, and claim these areas in the name of His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III.
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Evening was wearing on as Ellen Stone stood at the edge of a large gorge watching the river at it's base carry away yet another log. The recent flood had destroyed the last bridge and she'd been sent to oversee the safety of the construction team. She could see her Collegium counterpart directing the construction workers to secure the other logs, they couldn't afford the time to cut too many trees, the rail line was ready to build past this point. She wasn't used to sharing command, but had to admit, there were advantages. Professor Dial, her opposite, was an intelligent man but a coward. It suited her perfectly, he handled all the things like this, building bridges etc, but as soon as any real danger appeared he'd just step into the background and let her get on with it. That was the way it was supposed to work, Collegium members running the expedition, while the hired ''Security Heads' took over when bullets started flying. Some of the Collegium members were pretty militant though, useful with their gadgets and weapons but got in the way when orders started being given out. Thankfully not in her command. Dial's 'bombots' had gained him a position in the forward teams and they'd proven themselves, both here clearing obstructions, and earlier, on that temple island when they took out several Koshind troops. Everything else the man had designed seemed to be made to keep himself alive though. His 'Expanding Barrier'' had promise though, the ability to create a wall where needed during a battle could change everything. A commotion below drew Ellen's attention. Dial in particular seemed very excited and climbed up the ladders holding something large. Ellen turned from the ridge and headed back to camp to meet him.
As Ellen strode into camp, the majority of it's occupants were gathered around the cooking area. Not surprising given the hour, but the atmosphere was very different to normal. Two people appeared out of the crowd as she approached, Rachel Garret, the leader of the 'Gentiles', a group of well spoken and dressed Texans, that were also some of the best shots Ellen had encountered, and Drake, boss of 'Drake's Gunmen', an Arizona based group that may not be the best shots, but they'd seen their share of fights and could be relied upon to spit in the face of danger. Drake had his Gatling Shotgun thrown over his shoulder as usual, Ellen had yet to see the man without it. By the time Ellen reached the front of the crows she already knew what to expect after being filled in by the other two. Dial was crouched by the big fire washing muck from the largest crystal Ellen had ever seen. "So what is it? Some form of quartz?" she asked.
Dial looked up and seemed surprised by the amount of people gathered around. "No, not quartz, but you're right, it's not a diamond." He smiled at the audible grumble that arose from the gathered troops and workers. "It may turn out to be more valuable under the right circumstances."
"So what is it?" Ellen had often found questions needed asking more than once to get an answer from the Collegium members.
"I don't know," Dial admitted, "but I believe it's the same crystal type as used by those native statues, you know, the ones that walk around!"
"So, what, you want to build your own statue?"
"Not a statue no, but if we're right and these crystals are the power source, then who knows what we could do with them? We have to get a team down there to dig through the wreckage, this one was pulled from the mud that was washed down by the flood, there's more of them in there." Dial was almost jumping with excitement.
"Not now, the light's gone but you can take a team down in the morning. It'd be too dangerous to work down there now." Ellen turned to Rachel, "put some men on the workings. We don't want people getting ahead of themselves tonight."
Just after dawn broke, Ellen was unsurprised to find Dial up and about, gathering workers to go digging. Speaking to the troops on guard duty she was even less surprised to find out they'd had to tun back at least twelve people during the night. Accompanying Dials work crew, Ellen was present when the man almost exploded in rage. Dial accused the guards, the workers and the trees themselves of theft when it was discovered that all the crystals had vanished during the night. A shout from one of the workers who'd wandered upstream searching drew Ellen's attention. The worker brought over what he'd found, a shovel. However it wasn't one of their shovels, this one was made from some form of shell driven into a wooden handle, functional but crude. It was what the worker then directed her to that concerned Ellen more however. Tracks, quite a few of them.
Ellen looked up, "Drake, Rachel, grab some men and follow these tracks. I want to know where they go and what we're dealing with"
"We expecting trouble?" Rachel asked in her Texan drawl.
"These tracks are clawed," Ellen pointed out as she stood up. "and I've yet to see an animal that spends it's night digging for gems. Particularly not with a shovel."
Game reports to follow in their own thread.
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Looking forward to the game report.
Nice to see the southern landing Americans are are doing something.
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The blurb is probably more interesting than the report :)
I'm still lacking my scenery etc but took photo's anyway as I thought it was interesting ;)
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Looking forward to this Dewie.
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General Communiqué from His Imperial Majesty Tsar Alexandrovich III’s Colony of Vodkaland
A sinister assasination attempt has been made on Col. Ivan Ironfvist, commander of the 5th Armoured Automation Regiment, by religious fanatics of the Spanish Imperious Inqusition! Col. Ironfvist and a small detachment of personal guards was on a peacful expedition of exploration when they were abushed in the most vile manner by religious fanatics in huge numbers. The Imperial Russian forces were smashing the fanatics when a filthy assassin, using strange powers and poisons, attacked the colonel and struck him down. After a violent and brutal battle the few fantatics still alive took to their heels and the victorius Imperial Russian forces made an orderly withdrawl back to Vodkland with the seriously injured Colonel Ironfvist. This unprovoked attack will in no way hinder Imperial Russian expansion into the hinderlands of Atlantis in the future.
Signed,
Count Mikhal Brodinoff
Col. Gen. Commanding
15th Territorial Army
Imperial Colony of Vodkaland
[/img](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/ushistoryprof/battle029.jpg) Col. Ironfvist
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the Colonel and his patrol.
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Spanish Imperious Fanatics Assassins
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Latest news from Atlantean battlezones...
On the east coast:
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/Atlantiseastzones4.jpg)
Spanish forces in the north-east have blocked further advances by Imperial Russian forces for the time being.
And on the west coast:
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/AtlantisWestZones3.jpg)
US forces continue to advance south-eastwards from the southern part of the west coast, after overcoming a disterous bridge collapse.
Chinese forces on the west coast continue to make advances against the British positions.
Sorry it's taken so much time to do these, real life has been intervening. I'll try to do a little better in coming weeks.
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Sorry it's taken so much time to do these, real life has been intervening. I'll try to do a little better in coming weeks.
Real life does that, it's so inconsiderate. I see I'm about to absorb two towns. That should be fun :)
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The summer and winter capitals of the southern province, no less. The reason I've put you stopping short of them is that you haven't actually launched a genocidal war against the Atlanteans yet. I think we can assume you've made diplomatic contact, though language problems are still making communication a little haphazard.
What it boils down to is, the more games you play, the further your territory can expand. It's slightly more complex than that, but that's certainly an important part of what's going on. Go beat up those Bug-Men!
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What the deuce?! I see we Brits are being squeezed on both sides by the Japanese and Chinese... :o
Red Orc, I never had a reply to my last communique about British movements in the north. I assume these haven't happened as we are being pressed by the Chinese ::)
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You need to play a game for it to happen :D ;)
Bugmen wipe out mission in progress! Or rather the underground terrain is in progress, I should be painting my Warmachine figures for the tournament, but this is more interesting at the moment 8)
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I'm sorry Malamute, I'm a bad Campaign Overseer. I'll try to track down your last communique. If things need sorting I'll try to sort them.
Do bear in mind, however, that the British zone includes both yours and Gamer Mac's British forces, and he keeps getting beaten up by Chinese hit squads. That's why you're losing territory.
If anyone (except Bullshott*) thinks I'm doing something for them in terms of where their force is going and what it's doing, and thinks I've been a jolly long time about it, please contact me, essays and exams have rather delayed things I'm afraid.
*Bullshott, I'm sorry, I know I still owe you some maps. Would it help at all if I said that there are some people who've never had a map at all? Probably not...
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Do bear in mind, however, that the British zone includes both yours and Gamer Mac's British forces, and he keeps getting beaten up by Chinese hit squads. That's why you're losing territory.
Right then, time to give Gamer Mac a right telling off for losing territories, Its unacceptable and not British.... ;)
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Sorry, found the last communique.
I should have sent you a report on the expedition. I will get onto that, I hope you'll have it by the end of the week (after my exam tomorrow I'll have some free time)!
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Sorry, found the last communique.
I should have sent you a report on the expedition. I will get onto that, I hope you'll have it by the end of the week (after my exam tomorrow I'll have some free time)!
Hey no worries, real life is more important, let me know as and when.
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Right then, time to give Gamer Mac a right telling off for losing territories, Its unacceptable and not British.... ;)
Wait until Thunderchicken gets his British moving, then you're really doomed! lol
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Wait until Thunderchicken gets his British moving, then you're really doomed! lol
On that basis we are packing our bags for the return journey to Blighty as we speak ;)
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Wait until Thunderchicken gets his British moving, then you're really doomed! lol
Thunderchicken stirs from his slumber. What British forces? Am I supposed to be doing something somewhere? Mumble, mumble, mumble........
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Reports have surfaced of a giant Texas-shaped 'nef encroaching on territory currently under dispute between British and Venusian colonists. The Admirality has dispatched a scout 'nef with its complement of guard flyers to investigate...
(A buddy of mine is making a Republic of Texas 'nef and we're gonna slug it out at a con this weekend.)
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So...is this campaign dead? Would love to see a flareup of hostilities...
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So...is this campaign dead? Would love to see a flareup of hostilities...
Not as far as I'm concerned :)
Not had much time for gaming lately and any time available in the next month or so will go to building/painting a game for BLAM. The same board will be used for Atlantis though, so once it's done I'll rope in some opponents.
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Not as far as I'm concerned :)
Not had much time for gaming lately and any time available in the next month or so will go to building/painting a game for BLAM. The same board will be used for Atlantis though, so once it's done I'll rope in some opponents.
Same here.
Though my build for BLAM won't be going to Atlantis :D
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I'm sorry Froggy, it isn't dead but it's certainly been sick. I was keeping it going until about May, but then assignments and exams started to eat up my time; after that, my kids have been on summer holiday. So we've been visiting castles and going swimming (not usually in the castles).
If people are still up for it, we can breathe some new life into this (or at the very least bring things to a tidier conclusion).
In the spirit of at least trying to provide a rationale for the last couple of months' silence... it's been plague season in Atlantis; virulent diseases (that have luckily resulted in relatively few fatalities but much inconvenience to the occupying forces) have resulted in the islands being embargoed by the major powers (who are frightened of contagion spreading to their home ports). However, the plagues seem to have abated in recent weeks and tentative efforts are being made to re-establish contact.
Bullshott, I owe you a continent's worth of maps; Malamute, your survey team reported back about 4 months ago, but your forces have been too ill until now to send further surveys... OK, I'm off to find out where I stashed my notes...
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Real life has a nasty habit of getting in the way. We can resume hostilities in the near future. I will have a word with Jimbibblywibbly as he is my nearest opponent. :)
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He won't be if you keep calling him that...
;D
cheers
James
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Quite right! Everyone knows it's JimBibblywibblywoo.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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OK, well, if there are enough people who want to keep something going, then I'm happy to oversee things for a bit longer.
So... I think it's pretty safe to say that several of the world's powers who sent troops and/or aeronefs to Atlantis - currently numbering Britain, America (United States and Confederate States) Germany (in the shape of Prussia), its ally the Caliphate of Khosind, Japan, Imperial China, France, Spain, and Russia - have found the fighting harder and the returns more meagre than expected.
Re-supply has been difficult, and commanders on the ground have not always had the support they were led to expect before embarking on their missions. Some are finding it hard to justify their continued presence there, but do not want to pull out while rivals are still there.
This has in some cases resulted in a kind of paralysis, unable to move forward, unwilling to retreat; over the last few months zones of influence have solidified with little movement.
Added to this, the late spring brought an unknown and virulent plague which has weakened all of the occupying armies, thought the natives seem to be immune to it. Luckily, casulaties have been few, but incapacities (due to widespread crippling bowel cramps over many weeks) have been legion. Those who were at any time not affected have been too busy digging latrines to conquer this new land.
As a result, all the 'modern' armies are now better dug-in, with better toilet facilities, than they were before, but none has moved so much a a mile since the end of May. Now, by mid-August, the plague seems to be lessening, supply ship have resumed calling at plague-embargoed ports, and commanders are once more thinking of extending the borders of their respective countries' zones of influence, perhaps in a desperate last bid to prevent an enemy power capitalising on the situation...
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Me too!
This gives me the impetus to continue painting my mining company :)
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Rumors are stirring of events in months past as Lord Delabrough and his men continued their quest to repair the HMS St. George and take to the air again. They must have been successful, as the ship has recently been sighted in the air again.
How and why Lady Sarai was with them when they emerged from the jungle, nobody has yet been able to decipher.
...this may have happened. I will know more when I play out the game.
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This morning, in the Times of London, the following map was published.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/continent1.jpg)
Aside from the fact that colour printing is still very much in its infancy in 1890, the Admiralty would like to draw attention to the following facts about the map:
1 - there is no river marked in the North-west portion of New Cornwall, where Her Majesty's colony of New Victoria is situated;
2 - there are some islands, which are known to Geographers from the Royal Geographical Society and to surveyors from the Royal Navy, that are missing from the Southern coasts of the continent;
3 - the river in the centre of the Southern coastal region is much longer than is shown on the map, as has been demonstrated by aeronef survey conducted by British aeronauts of Army, Navy and Aeronautical Corps.
Thus it is the Admiralty's position that this map is a blatant forgery and fabrication, produced by enemies of Her Imperial Majesty, quite probably the French.
Signed:
Rear-Admiral Sir Hugh Jarse
Under-Secreatary to Secretary of Naval Affairs.
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Well it's clearly either a forgery or an old map. The railway cutting in from the west would certainly be visible to Nef observers.
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Well that's certainly true, we are aware that our American cousins have built a railway (or 'railroad' as I believe they are referred to in that strange continent) from the coast, approximattely eastward along the river valley marked on the west coast), to the vicinity of the location marked '2' on the map, which is some kind of native settlement.
Further proof that this map is not to be trusted.
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Breaking out of 'campaign mode' for a moment... I'm going away for 2 weeks to do a little adventuring of my own - I'm off on an archaeological dig in Italy for the next couple of weeks. So I won't be around to answer PMs or update the maps, should they require updating. But you know how this works by now, play some games upload the reports, everything's cushti.
If I find and ancient Martian devices, Idols of Leng, entrances to the World Beneath, evidence of of Captain Nemo's submarine base, or anything else of the kind, I'll be sure to let you know. Otherwise, see you around mid-September.
Carry on!
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The restart of the campaign coincided with: Two weeks of hell at work, my on-call week at work (not so hellish so far), becoming godfather to a local friend's newborn daughter, and fairly major choir commitments at church, plus my in-laws visiting.
The H.M.S. St. George and the C.S.S. Caudell are probably even within fifty miles of each other staking their duplicate claims for their respective mother/father/cousin-lands, they just haven't found each other yet. Carnage to follow.
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For me, the restart of the campaign has coincided with a series of re-enactment events, family commitments and weekends away just plain enjoying myself. On top of that we have a factory move over the middle of September and a couple of old friends staying over at the same time as the move. All in all this means i'm unlikely to get much painting done before October and will probably not get to play any games until the middle if that month either.
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All in all this means i'm unlikely to get much painting done before October and will probably not get to play any games until the middle if that month either.
That'll be BLAM then. ;)
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Right, as a few people were perceptive enough to notice, I'm back from Italy. No evidence that the Romans were worshipping Cthulhu, visiting Venus or trading with Atlantis, I'm afraid, but never mind.
Carry on chaps!
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No evidence that the Romans were worshipping Cthulhu, visiting Venus or trading with Atlantis, I'm afraid, but never mind.
Bummer!
At least there's still Father Christmas.
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Right chaps, a new map of Atlantis has emerged for all those who are still paying attention.
The map is as follow...
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/continent2.jpg)
Comments to follow shortly, probably...
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Well, the good news is that I now have British and Martian forces that are large enough that I can use FUBAR for a decent-sized battle...Whether or not the Confederates can join at that scale is yet to be determined.
The Venusians plaguing the Delabrough Expedition earlier this year have not been heard from in months. The repaired HMS St. George returned to port some time ago with all hands alive, though moderately unhinged.
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EDIT: okay who is which number, please?
Gracias,
Glenn
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EDIT: okay who is which number, please?...
Ahah. I see I'm being confusing.
These numbers don't relate to landing places of the modern nations.
But to give a general idea, Bullshott (US) and Dr De'Ath (Caliphate of Khosind) are somewhere south and west of '2', with Jimbibbly (Japan) a little to their west, and Malamute (British) and Gamer Mac (Chinese) are closer to '3', with Dewbakuk (US) near '4'.
No-one is near '5', though one of the islands off the SW point is believed to be the location for the 'Battle of Pyramid Island' earlier in the year, when British and American forces raced Japanese and ?Prussian-backed Khosind forces to capture a strategic hilltop, crowned with an Atlantean pyramid that frankly the Atlanteans weren't keen to give up.
Froggy the Great (British), Mors (Japanese), and Alfrik and his buddies (British v Prussians), have been active at various places along the central parts of the south coast, towards the river where '6' is marked.
Answer is 42 has established a French zone in the area of '7', and to the north of him are V Dozy Dragon and Whiskeyrat's Confederates and Prussians; finally east and north-east of '8', are ushistoryprof's Spanish (on the coast) and Russians (on the island).
Not sure if I've forgotten anyone, I hope not.
The numbers in fact relate to native settlements, the exact details of which will be forthcoming (along with lots of details that haven't exactly been in the public domain, sorry).
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Ahah. I see I'm being confusing.
These numbers don't relate to landing places of the modern nations.
<snip>
Not your fault. You know what they say about assumptions...
Okay, I hope to have a Aeronef battle report after I get back to CONUS (mid-November) - personal, not professional trip - between the Spanish backed Argentinians and the Portugese backed Brazilians in the vicinity of the Southern Central Coast/Islands.
Gracias,
Glenn
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Bit of an update with the campaign, I have posted it here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23808.0
I think I should have put it here though ::)
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I think it looks great, and it quite suits having its own thread to be honest. We'll be updating it over the coming weeks with new issues so it shouldn't just disappear, but then again it won't just be swamped in the general info in this thread.
Excellent job mate.
*To anyone having trouble downloading Lord Ponsonby's account from the 'Jumbuck Times' (I did at first) - please persevere, it is worth the wait, but as has been said, this is an experimental aetherographic technique involving precise galvanic engineering to manipulate the luminiferous flux. Sometimes it's a bit difficult. We're working on it.
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Helen Vaughn and her band of anarchists have landed on the north west coast via submersible,and have established themselves (read taken over) a small coastal village in the fjords.
She is apparently wanted (for crimes against humanity,the worship of as yet unnamed beings and for being too good looking for her own damn good (that's from a song by an 80's band, Magazine if your old enough to remember Post-Punk) et cetera) by most of the European nations,in particular the British (she was a British citizen). Arthur Machen a noted journalist has written an account of Helen Vaughn's early life,tho' it is inaccurate in its outcome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_God_Pan
More soon........
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Reports are coming in of heavy fighting between Lord Robert Delabrough's reappeared Atlantean Overcomers and a previously-unknown colony in the Atlantean region known jokingly as the "Martian Hinterlands".
Battle reports to follow as soon as the units involved make it through their stint in the LPL.
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Hmmm, very interesting. There's life in the old expeditions yet!
Just very very roughly Froggy, taking the map about 6 posts back (October 30th) as rough guide, your original location was near the south coast, towards the eastern side of the continent, somewhere near point '6' (the map isn't 100% accurate as you may have already realised).
Are Lord Delaborough's current adventures in the same general area (mountains, forest and river valleys in the south-east)? Or has he moved out to explore other areas?
The mountains to the north of the original location are fairly high, those in the ranges to the north-west (across the plains west of location '8') are even higher - mountains would be the favoured locations for the Martians on Atlantis, but they had various interests there, so they're not just going to be found up on mountain-tops.
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I believe the Crown wrote off the original area of Atlantis, and moved Delabrough elsewhere. It looks like the Prussians and Japanese might be getting involved in this theatre soon, with a remote possibility of the Confederacy coming in later.
Wherever will work for that, works for me.
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Is it too late to try and get on board? If it isn't then
1. Cadet13
2. Mainly British (Army and RN), but with some Americans (Army and Navy), French, the German-financed Dr. von Hauser Scientific Expedition, and Atlaneans.
3. Small scale skirmish, with Steam tech and small ship coastal actions in 28mm.
I really hope this campaign hasn't lost steam; I'd really like to get involved! It might take a little while to get enough stuff together for a proper game, but not too long. :)
Regards,
Cadet13
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Hi Cadet, well, to be honest it has lost some steam, but like an old drunk I don't know whenI've had enough, so, welcome aboard, the more the merrier!
I'm sending you a PM, we can start sorting out details.
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Are we still corresponding dates in 1891 to dates in 2011, or did we lose enough steam that we're still in 1890?
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It is confirmed that the Crown's recent hostilities have been with quite a large colony of extraterrestrials, presumably dating from before Atlantis's original antediluvian disappearance. Reports have reached London of large settlements of graceful soaring towers peopled by a race of amazons, every single one of them resembling a Lady H_. A. N_, variously of London, Prague, the Andes, and the Antarctic.
Hostilities are reported to to be of moderate size, a platoon of soldiers each, with cavalry and mechanised detatchments. Unconfirmed reports also have the HMS St. George shot down again, though later reports have it once more in the air. Likewise, Lord Robert Delabrough has been reported by reliable eyewitnesses as killed in no fewer than three engagements--
"You call this copy, Bartles? Take this to one of the penny-dreadfuls, maybe they can publish this..."
"But boss, this is what I have!"
"Bartles, you're fired. Any more out of you about this obvious forgery and I'll see you never work for another newspaper in London again!"
"But boss..."
"Out, Bartles!"
Most recently, forces of the crown under the command of Colonel Edward Titchener were caught in an ambush from these "Martian Hinterlanders" and decimated as they were attemting to effect a peaceful prisoner exchange. Royal enquiries to The Hague and Syrtis Major are proceeding with all due haste.
OOC: Again, battle reports to be posted once the participants have done their time in the LPL.
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Are we still corresponding dates in 1891 to dates in 2011, or did we lose enough steam that we're still in 1890?
Yeah, still exactly 120 years ago - so campaign time, it's now March 1891.
Love the newspaper reports - maybe Bartles could get a job with the Jumbuck Times?
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Update on Prussian Occupation forces; This in:
"Our supply depot that was destroyed by the British Expeditionary Force has been unable to be reestablished. This in turn has effectively cut off the Prussian forces from resupply. The situation has deteriorated such that a straggling line of troops have been found on a beach and removed to naval ships after abandoning all their equipment and destroyed their vehicles."
"It is known that the British forces are suffering from the rough seas of winter interrupting their supply situation as well.
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News has reached the reporters on the HMS Dragonfire off the Atlantean coast of heavy fighting in and around another abandoned Martian settlement. This time, British and Martian forces clashed over control of an abandoned unobtanium mine near that same settlement. The report was garbled, but Col. Titchener, an otherwise sober sensible man, raved on about foul creatures burrowing up from the earth near the mine and attacking soldiers of both sides. This report was unable to be corroborated, as shortly thereafter he was turned upon and allegedly devoured by the Cytherian Parrotman levies he was leading into battle.
It was further reported after the transmission quality was restored, that the crown is now in possession of the mine after "moderate" losses. It is the view of this correspondent that this indicates the near annihilation of the crown's forces for nearly equal numbers of the enemy. This is further borne out by the dispatch from the HMS Dragonfire of several fresh squads to reinforce Lord Delabrough's position and hold upon the mine.
Battle report to follow as soon as we figure out how to get pictures to me.
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The British settlement of New Effingham is in flames.
More details here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=27694
Anyone else still playing this campaign?
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I am. It's taken me longer than I've hoped (with my school and whatnot), but hopefully I'll have enough troops painted to get a game in this weekend.
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The dastardly Prussians have pulled their ground forces out by a makeshift harbor when their harbor supply depot was burned to the ground by the British. But they have established a new depot using mechanical infantry and robotic walkers to rebuild. Reports indicate that only a few Prussian scientists have been seen, no other soldiers!
The British in the mean time have rehab'd their equipment and straightened out their supply situation. Plans are in the offing to renew the struggle with the Prussians. Mean time the Atlantean native city as used the time to augment their troop training and equipment, delving deep under the city in nearly forgotten chambers for material of war!
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The war between the British and the Martians on Atlantis is not going well. The Martians possess a clear advantage in troops and spies, catching the retreat from the ashes of New Effingham and rendering it no longer fit for combat.
The local British authorities are reportedly considering a drastic reconsideration of strategies, and hope to salvage the deteriorating situation before too long.
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Well, after a flurry of activity in early spring, the lull in fighting, lasting most of the late spring and early summer (one suspects that the Atlantean Spring Fever mustr have struck again), seems to be over. Froggy the Great has been very busy, and battle reports can be found on the following threads:
July 3rd (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31009.0), July 7th (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31013.0), July 14th (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31196.0), July 20th (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31367.0), July 23rd (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31444.0), July 27th (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31530.0).
Furthermore, in the wilds of the north-west, the Khosindan forces have it seems been building a railway, as the following thread shows - Dr De'Ath's Khosind Light Railway (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=31402.0).
Congratulations and thanks to all who are keeping this going, there's life in the old continent yet!
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Currently, the fighting in the south of Atlantis is centered in a large area of ruins, some appearing European and some more like the abandoned cities in the northern regions of Mars.
So far, this arrangement beggars explanation, but it may be part of why the force of blonde doppelgangers formerly thought to be Martian are now thought to be of Atlantean origin.
Conflicts have been reported between British, Atlantean, Confederate States of America, the Prussian empire, and an army with the appearance of ancient Rome. These latter forces appear to have made landfall comparatively recently.
At the moment, the advantage appears to rest with the British, though the winds of fortune appear wont to shift with distressing rapidity. Our sources confirm the british and confederates holding secure bases on the coast, and it is surmised that Prussia does also. The location and nature has yet to be determined of any base for the High Atlanteans, to say nothing of these "Romans", if that is indeed who they are...
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Also in the south of Atlantis, the British Expeditionary Force has made landfall and has established cordial diplomatic relations with the Atlanteans of the major port city of Cardamon. However, the expedition's commander, the aging, slightly senile but well meaning Major General Paddington Blakeney, OBE, has yet to arrive, having refused to skip his holiday of bird watching in Essex. Upon his arrival, the Tommies will move inland against what scouts have reported as being 'green creatures' posessing powerful weaponry; the locals have assured the acting Garrison Commander Colonel Cummerbund that they are not native to Atlantis, or even to the planet Earth for that matter.
Also in Cardamon are delegations from France, Germany and the United States. France seems content with keeping its garrison and flying the tricolor over its embassy in Cardamon. The Americans, while not outwardly agressive, have been planning on building up its forces in the area, but when those reinforcements will arrive is anyone at the American Embassy's guess. The Germans, too, have been growing in numbers, but they are the most aggressive of any of the other European powers, with troop numbers in Cardamon steadily increasing, soon to include General von Sturm himself.
So, once the Spring Fever subsides amongst the men and the Major General arrives, the British Expeditionary Force of Atlantis will sally forth from the gates of Cardamon and push inland against the other worldy invaders, while the motivations of the other powers are still anyone's guess.
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I'm sorry to bother, but is there a map of this campaign's Atlantis? Also, is it too late to join, as I would like to run a RPG campaign among my friends.
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Hi there MajorTalon, to be honest the Atlantis campaign ran out of steam a while ago. A couple of people, notably Froggy the Great and Cadet13, have tried to sustain it over this last year, but most people have moved on. However, there is absolutely no reason you can't use it for an RPG campaign - most of it originally came from one of my old fantasy campaigns anyway, with other bits liberally ripped from fantasy novels. These were then stiched together to produce an ancient-type setting, that was then just catapulted into the late 19th century - of course, a VSF one with aetheric engines, aeronefs, Martians and whatnot.
There have been a couple of maps of the whole of Atlantis, supposedly by adventurers who have explored it, but neither of them is particularly 'accurate' in terms of what has actually been discovered. The idea was that I would provide maps of different areas to be explored. Unfortunately I found out fairly rapidly that transfering my old D&D campaign maps (at a variety of scales) into similarly-scaled maps to be uploaded was much more complicated than I thought it would be.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/continent2.jpg~original)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/continent1.jpg~original)
There are keys for both of these, to explain what the numbers relate to - they're all native settlements, but I can't at the moment find that info sorry... I'll try to get back to you with that soon.
There is a campaign report thread, with some issues of the sensationalist journal the 'Jumbuck Times', which published excerpts from a traveller's diary of Atlantis, I'll hunt down that link too.
Anything else you want to know, feel free to send me a PM.
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Thanks a lot man ;). If I need anymore material, I'll drop you a PM.
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I trawled the threads to find a links to the further info - if you peruse this thread (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23808.0) and follow the links, you can access further info.
I'll put up the info about city-names and whatnot as soon as I can find it.
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I wonder if it might be time to declare the long-dead Venus setting compatible with Atlantis. Lord Delabrough et al could take a trip back in time or so and cross the ether...
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I definitely think they're compatible. In my mind, the Atlantis, Venus and indeed Mars campaign that seems to have some people excited are all running more or less concurrently. I like to imagine that units that were running around (or bogged down) in Atlantis 18 months ago have now been reassigned to Mars or Venus...
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(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/redorc01/newspaper-1.jpg~original)
Full text from the London Evening Messenger, 20th December 1891
Secret Conference in Swiss Alps?
Extraordinary rumours are circulating in Switzerland, our Geneva correspondent reports. The small Alpine town of Reichenbach, a sleepy place where an escaped goat is usually the biggest story of the month, has been playing host to a conference of minor European royalty and the representatives of various foreign potentates.
The castle of Reichenbach, one-time summer residence of the Bishops of Frühvögel-über-Würm, is a well-appointed and secluded palace in the hills near Thun, and famous for its spectacular waterfall. But events this week are likely to cause it to be famous for another reason.
It seems that, among others, Grand Duke Michael Romanov of Russia (this Grand Duke being neither the brother of the current Tsar, Alexander III, not the young grandson of the Tsar, but instead a nephew); Archduke Leopold of Habsburg (a grandson of the Emperor Franz-Joseph); and a certain member of Her Imperial Majesty’s Government by the name of Mycroft Holmes, along with ambassadors from France, the German Empire, and many other states, have been gathering in secret to hammer out a deal for world peace.
Meanwhile, writes our Paris correspondent, in an unexpected and barely explained move, the Paris-based revolutionary socialist – or, as we should perhaps call it now ‘anarchist’ – journal ‘The People’s Truth’ has issued a statement distancing itself from any attacks on the peace conference, claiming that “agents of the oppressing classes, cloaking themselves as friends of the working masses, have infiltrated the revolutionary socialist movement and, acting as agents provocateurs, stirred the anger of sections of the movement to rash acts that can only benefit the ruling classes in their drive to a world war. The workers of all countries are opposed to all wars for profit and we appeal to our class brothers to turn aside and take stock of their actions and ask who benefits from them”.
It appears this is a reference to a split in the anarchist movement in France and that some of the revolutionaries are attempting to disrupt the secret conference. We can only speculate at this point but it seems that some among the revolutionary socialists are moving towards opposing the recent bombings as a threat to world peace, while others believe that the campaign is winning results.
Meanwhile, the main causes of tension among the Great Powers are still in place: the question of the Ruritanian Succession, the disputed status of the Confederate States of America and the Caliphate of Khosind, events on Mars and Venus and the continuing conflict in Atlantis are sure to be high among the concerns of all the delegates at the Castle of Reichenbach, whatever the anarchists may do.
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Is the 'Messenger' correct? Will the end of hostilities in Atlantis be debated at the secret Reichenbach conference? Or will the Anarchists manage to disrupt it after all?
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Hmm,sounds to me like Mycroft will have it all in hand especially with the help of "Shirley". ;)
Been to the cinema recently have we ???
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:D
Might have been...
I thought it might be a nice way to draw a line under the campaign - if, behind the scenes, a peace deal over Atlantis is hatched, it might allow the forces there to be withdrawn to deploy to other theatres. The fact that the film has a secret peace conference taking place in 1891 is a very handy excuse, I think.
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Yep, great idea. :)
What did you think of the film?
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I thought it was a jolly romp. Had moments that genuinely made me laugh, thought a lot of it looked good, and I'm warming to Jude Law (I've never really been a fan); on the other hand, I thought it dragged a bit about 3/4 of the way through. But I didn't come out of the cinema going 'there's two hours I won't get back' so that's a result I think.
I mean, "I thought the Cinematographic Moving Newspaper of events in Europe was terribly exciting and important". ;)
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Yep, pretty much sums up how I felt about it. :)
I went in with very high expectations as I really enjoyed the first film and whilst not as good I still enjoyed it.