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Title: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 12, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_01_37_3.jpg)
As the Belgian Force Publique seem to be very much flavour of the month around here at the minute, now seems as good a time as any for my "Back to Africa" finishing-things-off-push to focus on them for a while. Years ago I painted up a few Belgians which we have used in our Great War in Africa games several times, but I never got around to making them into a complete force. They were among the first Darkest Africa figures I ever painted, and so it's bloody-well time I finished them off.



First things first. I had sixteen rank-and-file lads painted. Two more gives me a slightly more flexible amount for my T&T force. I can field them as three squads of six for flexibility, or two of nine for a bit more staying power. So here are the two latecomers:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_02_22_1.jpg)


Next the flag...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_01_37_2.jpg)
Had an old printed flag I never really cared for, so I've replaced it with one I painted myself. Same old figure, painted years ago.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_01_37_0.jpg)
Gotta have a leader.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_01_37_1.jpg)
I call him Hergé Geudens.


Finally a bit of firepower. Can't be too careful...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_02_22_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_3_01_37_4.jpg)

Just a couple more figures to paint and then we'll have a group shot of the whole gang together.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Hammers on January 12, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
Most handsome. *Most* handsome!

I wish I was a citizen of the Congo Free State so I could hoist those beautiful colours up the garden flag pole.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 12, 2010, 03:21:53 PM
lovely forces work!!! :D

interesting comparation between both T&T belgian forces... your bases are great!!!!! and the background of the photos...

congratulations
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Grimm on January 12, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
 :o we must play a game together one day,please  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Operator5 on January 12, 2010, 03:33:39 PM
Having just started my own African collection, I now see the appeal of it.

Great looking stuff there.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 12, 2010, 03:54:43 PM
so GREAT :-* I love Africa wargaming and I love when Plynkes brings out his Africa stuff! Please more  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Darkoath on January 12, 2010, 04:11:09 PM
Outstanding work Plynkes! :-*  Very rich and vibrant colors! Is the leader on the donkey a straight foundry casting or is he scratchbuilt?  He looks quite dashing in his white coat! :D :D

Darkoath
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 12, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
Ta.

Darkoath, that's how the Commander comes straight out of the packet. If you check out Mortimer's Force Publique thread you'll see he's been painting the same fellow this week too. He comes with a dismounted version. I suppose I should have used him as such, but as you can see he is otherwise occupied commanding the Nordenfelt gun. I guess it must be the Commandant's twin brother.

The only conversion in this bunch is the guy operating the machine-gun (which is a Copplestone Castings Royal Navy one). He's had a bit of surgery to make him fit his new role (previously he was waving a sword above his head like an idiot).
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 12, 2010, 04:27:44 PM
Beautiful work, Plynkes.

I hope I can get similar character from my 15mm genre.  (granted, they won't be painted as well)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: coggon on January 12, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
Plynikes,

As always, great stuff, and inspirational

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: bc99 on January 12, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
Koloniale Dagen?

It sounds Cthulhu to me!

Great looking figures. I've also got my force publique out of their hiding spot and looking at me with anticipation. Will I lift brush to paint them? The slew of new posts about FP might just push me to do some painting!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 12, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
 :o

Wow!

I think the one I like the best is... well, darn, I like them all!

Great flag as well.  Super minis!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Traveler Man on January 12, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
Excellent work, sir! I'll have to get a Copplestone Nordenfelt for my own Force Publique company. They are rather lacking heavy support. Thanks for the idea.  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 12, 2010, 06:03:51 PM
Can't get over those Askaris.  Fantastic!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: argsilverson on January 12, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Very Good, Sir!
Can;t wait to see the rest
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Svennn on January 12, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
Herge Geudens  lol

I shall add him to the list. Hercule Poirot, Jon Claude van Damme, Hertz van Rental etc. the other famous Belgians
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: cram on January 12, 2010, 07:26:55 PM
Stunning paint jobs! I'm tempted to do Force Publique, as soon as I've finished painting up my Explorers and Jungle Cannibals armies (got some way too go yet though). What colours did you use to paint the bases?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 12, 2010, 07:44:17 PM
Plastic Bertrand, Kim Clijsters (spell?), Jacques Brel (Adieu Curé, je vais mourir... ), Justine Henin, Audrey Hepburn, Adolphe Sax, Albert I ("I rule a country, not a highway!" - take that, Kaiser Bill!). Think that's me out, unless you want me to start on obscure footballers and some even more obscure tennis players.


Cram: GW Desert Yellow + GW Bestial Brown. Drybrushed with Coat d'Arms Desert Sand. A few choice stones picked out with a white highlight and then the whole thing given a drink of GW Gryphon Sepia wash.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 12, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
Ewwww!  Justine Henin!    hate her. 

Kim Clisters, when she was relatively chubby, now she was kinda cute (couldn't volley or hit a running forhand, but had a nice booty)

Plynkes, you think i could find comparable minis in 15mm for Force Publique, Belgians?

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 12, 2010, 07:59:00 PM
My favourite Belgian tennis player was Dominique van Roost. She seemed nice. Trouble is she wasn't any bloody good.


Sorry Smokey, I'm a bit out of my element talking about 15mm. If nobody makes them then French Tirailleurs Senegalaise have vaguely similar uniforms (similar enough for 15mm maybe anyway), though I admit I have no idea if anybody makes them either. We need Allen on the case. Asking on TMP might be a plan, as you have more chance of catching someone who knows.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 12, 2010, 08:03:15 PM
Van Roost.  Seemed a nice girl.

I'll try. Thanks.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Captain Blood on January 12, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Herge Geudens  lol

I shall add him to the list. Hercule Poirot, Jon Claude van Damme, Hertz van Rental etc. the other famous Belgians

Don't forget Moules Frites.

Lovely figures Plynkes. You can't beat a handpainted flag.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 12, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
Great stuff , they are certainly in vogue at the moment , I have just finished the native elements of my force (all bar  the bases which I am still pondering on) , theres a quick snap on my blog. I agree they are lovely to paint , I dont think I have ever done 45 or so figures so quickly. Just finished reading King Leopolds Ghost and have started The Fall of the Congo Arabs by Sidney Langford Hinde which doesnt seem too much of a chore for an original work.

Mors
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 12, 2010, 09:56:45 PM
Nice one, Mors. Looking damn good. Seeing your drummer makes me want to paint mine (I had cast him aside in favour of the bugler - who needs two musicians?).

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_12_01_10_10_52_12.jpg)
(Hope you don't mind me posting this here.)

You'll have to show us more of these pics when you have some. Between you, me, Ray and Mortimer we're building quite a LAF Force Publique. Imagine if we combined them all in one force. Would just need someone for them to fight.  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Hammers on January 12, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Don't forget Moules Frites.

Lovely figures Plynkes. You can't beat a handpainted flag.

Oude Kriek, Brasserie de Silly, Plat de Waterzooie. I'm killing myself here. :D :?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 12, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
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Hope you don't mind me posting this here

Not at all, I need learn how to post pics, did it once but they came out tiny.

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I had cast him aside in favour of the bugler - who needs two musicians?).

Need to keep the chaps cheery, also useful as white man attendants in Chris Peers rules.

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You'll have to show us more of these pics when you have some

If I get my musketeers done before Friday I will actually try and have a game over the weekend and take some pics, it will be a what if scenario as they will be up against Carl Peters German expedition who seem to have wandered considerably further West than they should have done!

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Would just need someone for them to fight

Thats the other reason I wanted to do these , the options for historical oppponents are quite varied.......Azande, other Congo tribes including cannibals, pygmies, Mahdists, Zanzibaris and with a bit of imagination French ,Brits and Germans all had territories with  borders. Not that I have to tell you that!!

My Azande turned up yesterday so they may get into bat next although the Brigade Germans are in contention.

I also have in a the lead pile some Brigade WW1  FP  so would quite easy to to do early war as well, probably not  use the ones with cummerband if Im feeling picky that day.

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 13, 2010, 02:42:24 AM
 :o

OMG, Mors!

You painted the naked one too!   lol
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 13, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
Hes the scout!
The others kick him out up front  :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: argsilverson on January 13, 2010, 11:55:39 AM
Dear Plynkes,

I just found the link for some toy soldier company which has  some alternative paint scheme of those force publique, probably wrong but nice. the band seems interesting (when you make one, this will be the paint scheme!)

http://www.beau-geste.com/new.htm
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 13, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Dear Plynkes,

I just found the link for some toy soldier company which has  some alternative paint scheme of those force publique, probably wrong but nice. the band seems interesting (when you make one, this will be the paint scheme!)

http://www.beau-geste.com/new.htm

I love this company minis!! Retro style but nice and very original sculpts!!!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 13, 2010, 01:19:07 PM
Oh a band like that would be delightful, if sculpted so they fitted in nicely with the Copplestone ones.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 13, 2010, 02:13:01 PM
Wonder if we could persuade Mr Copplestone to sculpt some Azande harpists http://africamusica4.skynetblogs.be/archive-month/2007-03
(the Azande are near the bottom of the page)

We could have a Congo Battle of the Bands !
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 13, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
There's some of our friends from the other thread there. A couple of pointy-headed Mangbetu ladies plucking away merrily.

I like this one, especially its cute little feet...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_13_01_10_3_19_48.jpg)

I imagine it getting up in the night and paddling about the house making mischief and having adventures.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Captain Blood on January 13, 2010, 03:21:31 PM

I like this one, especially its cute little feet...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_13_01_10_3_19_48.jpg)

I imagine it getting up in the night and paddling about the house making mischief and having adventures.

Time to lay off the mind-expanding drugs now, Plynkes  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Traveler Man on January 14, 2010, 08:23:16 PM
There's some of our friends from the other thread there. A couple of pointy-headed Mangbetu ladies plucking away merrily.

I like this one, especially its cute little feet...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_13_01_10_3_19_48.jpg)

I imagine it getting up in the night and paddling about the house making mischief and having adventures.

Is it made of Sapient Pearwood?  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 15, 2010, 04:20:02 PM
Since we don't want our expedition of famous Belgians blundering into any ambushes, some Zande Scouts...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_15_01_10_5_13_59.jpg)

T&T calls for scout units of three. Not sure why I painted four. Perhaps a subconscious desire to defy authority? (which in this case means Björn and Chris!)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 15, 2010, 04:56:16 PM
Oooh very nice, lots of character there. My azande got here last week and I am itching to start them but must stayed focused on the musketeers.  Does T & T transfer easily to Africa? I was thinking about getting the rules at the next show I go to.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Chairface on January 15, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Gorgeous, characterful minis!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 15, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
OOOOOOOOOOooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Fantastic work with the azande!!! I still have no azandes in my collection!  :-[
Oooh very nice, lots of character there. My azande got here last week and I am itching to start them but must stayed focused on the musketeers.  Does T & T transfer easily to Africa? I was thinking about getting the rules at the next show I go to.

Yes! I think T&T rules fits great with the colonial era skirmish battles... and they are working in a colonial supplement
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 16, 2010, 11:35:34 AM
Group shot of the little force so far:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_16_01_10_12_32_03.jpg)

Quite small, though I still think they'd give a good showing against any of my native forces (and I don't really do "big" armies anyway). Just debating with myself whether to add a unit of allied cannibals today, or go back to my Ngoni, who have been neglected a little lately.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 16, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
 :-*

That's a fine force you have there.  Very fine.

The scouts really add a lot, very nicely done.

The Foundry miniatures are super fun to paint.  Everyone should have a Belgian force to go tramping through the bush!  Put them alongside some Brits and you have plenty of troops to go up against the devlish Prussians in East Africa!

 ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 16, 2010, 02:12:09 PM
Very nice indeed, I need to look at the options of getting a gun/mg in my force
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on January 16, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
Both forces (Mors' and Plynkes') are very well done and comparing them as best I can, they would look great on the same table.

I will probably get around to painting some  Belgians in 20 or so years time, which is a shame as they are certainly a lovely army to aspire to.

Until then my Zande will have to make do with fighting the Sudanese  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Rev. Aubrey Upjohn on January 16, 2010, 03:00:40 PM
Just debating with myself whether to add a unit of allied cannibals today, or go back to my Ngoni, who have been neglected a little lately.

Please go for the cannibals.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Chairface on January 16, 2010, 05:41:40 PM
Please go for the cannibals.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 16, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
Well, I've spent the afternoon cleaning up, prepping and basing...


...Cannibals and Ngoni!


All to the accompaniment of African Nations Cup football on the telly, good African atmosphere for working on these fellas. Seeing how Colonial Adventures has turned into very much a Congolese show lately I would root for DR Congo - but they ain't in it this year, didn't qualify. Since I am also doing my Ngoni (to be precise - Angoni) that leaves Zambia and Malawi for me to cheer on. Come on, little Malawi! Beat Mali and you're through.


(Russell Osman is currently commentating on Egypt vs. Mozambique. He was in Escape to Victory! - the best film about football ever made.)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 26, 2010, 02:21:56 PM
First four jungle cannibal allies:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_26_01_10_3_19_53_0.jpg)

Four more are on the painting table, just finish them and then we're done.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Admiral Benbow on January 26, 2010, 02:27:50 PM
Nicely painted group, Plynkes.

I especially like the guy at the right; he looks like he's fascinated by a build-in laptop inside his shield showing the current weather forecast ...  lol
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Hammers on January 26, 2010, 02:33:03 PM
Another great looking group of heathens but with a different I-dare-you-to-laugh-hairdo.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 26, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Nice painting, again.

 Those hairstyles would fit right in at a 70's  pool hall.
 :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 26, 2010, 04:36:42 PM
I love this newones!! You're an artist mr plynkes!!

I like the expression in her faces... well done  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 26, 2010, 10:04:38 PM
I love this newones!! You're an artist mr plynkes!!

I like the expression in her faces... well done  :-* :-* :-*


Yep.


No need to ask:  "Do you think they are freindly?" right? 
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 26, 2010, 10:43:01 PM

Yep.


No need to ask:  "Do you think they are freindly?" right? 


His... sorry  :? my english not quite good, an idiomatic mistake
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 26, 2010, 10:57:06 PM

His... sorry  :? my english not quite good, an idiomatic mistake

 

 I didn't notice it (your mistake).  I was just highlighting your statement, as I agreed with it entirely.   ;)

Nice expressions on that lot of bad actors!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on January 26, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
Excellent!!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 26, 2010, 11:16:29 PM
Thanks, guys. I was feeling a little discouraged tonight - painting Ngoni and couldn't get "in the zone" (I'm a terrible pathological perfectionist and am never fucking happy with my work at the best of times). Kind comments really helped, and I went back to them and I think I've turned it around - they'll do. Cheers.

Mortimer, I didn't notice your mistake when you typed it, or when Smokey inadvertently repeated it either. Relax, your English is just fine. No problems at all.  :)


Nice expressions on that lot of bad actors!
I don't like the fellow one in from the right. Possibly the only Copplestone sculpt I've ever fallen out with. Just doesn't look human to me. Like a cartoon negro from the old days, or the Grinch or something. It's hard to love a face like that! Really struggled with that sod, and he still looks like some kind of ape. Never mind, eh? He can stand at the back where nobody will notice him.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 27, 2010, 12:38:05 AM
Thanks, guys. I was feeling a little discouraged tonight - painting Ngoni and couldn't get "in the zone" (I'm a terrible pathological perfectionist and am never fucking happy with my work at the best of times). Kind comments really helped, and I went back to them and I think I've turned it around - they'll do. Cheers.

Mortimer, I didn't notice your mistake when you typed it, or when Smokey inadvertently repeated it either. Relax, your English is just fine. No problems at all.  :)

I don't like the fellow one in from the right. Possibly the only Copplestone sculpt I've ever fallen out with. Just doesn't look human to me. Like a cartoon negro from the old days, or the Grinch or something. It's hard to love a face like that! Really struggled with that sod, and he still looks like some kind of ape. Never mind, eh? He can stand at the back where nobody will notice him.

Well, for some reason, the photo I see has only the two guys on the left (it cuts in half, and I get blank screen for the figures after that.  wEIRD, HUH?)

Great job, Plynkes.  Seriously, your painting is at the top notch of the hobby.
 

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on January 27, 2010, 12:55:30 AM
That's weird. What's your screen resolution set at? Tend to forget not everybody is on snazzy new monitors that show the bigger pics on the whole screen rather than chopping them in half. But even so, you ought to be able to use the scroll bar to see it all.

Anway, it's in the gallery, maybe you'll have better luck viewing it there:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5178 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5178)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on January 27, 2010, 01:02:39 AM
That's better! (I do have a wide screen moniter, it shows the whole picture, but it is blank white for the right half    :?)

LOL!  That guy on the right looks like he is not 100% "all in".  Seems he has some doubts about spears vs rifles, and the ability of his Chrysler car door sheild's ability to stop a Martini .45 round. .  I think it fits in PERFECTLY! 

Lot's of character.

 :)


I think that chap would be perfectly happy to be in the rear, according to his expression. 
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 27, 2010, 02:38:41 AM
Well, I think they are all excellent!

Especially like the way you painted up the shields and spears!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on January 27, 2010, 09:04:35 AM

His... sorry  :? my english not quite good, an idiomatic mistake

Hey Mortimer, most native english speakers wouldn't know what "idiomatic" means, so you have no worries with your english  :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on January 27, 2010, 09:25:25 AM
Hey Mortimer, most native english speakers wouldn't know what "idiomatic" means, so you have no worries with your english  :D

haha, thanks, that's very kind of you, all ... perhaps I know "idiomatic" because of his similarity with the spanish word...  :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on March 02, 2010, 04:08:45 PM
Last lap...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_17_58_1.jpg)
Finished off the cannibal allies.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_17_58_2.jpg)
The completed unit.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_15_35_1.jpg)
A shot of the whole force.

A few close-ups:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_15_35_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_17_58_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_3_15_35_2.jpg)

Well, that's it. All done. A Belgian force for T&T skirmish games. Just about the right size, I reckon.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/5/163_02_03_10_4_58_47.jpg)

Well, I say finished, but I can always add to it later. I still have more askari I could paint, and some of those African musketmen. But if it gets too big I'll need too many natives. So I'm declaring it finished. For now. Just need someone for them to fight now.

Speaking of which >>>>>>  Click Here! CLICK HERE! HURRY UP! DO IT NOW!  (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16894.new#new)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Smokeyrone on March 02, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
I'm glad DA is back in the spotlight!  Fantatsic figs!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 02, 2010, 06:06:16 PM
Tis a mighty army!

Beautiful figures and a great mule as well! 
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ignatieff on March 02, 2010, 06:16:55 PM
Absolutely superb work.  My complements sir!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: mortimer on March 02, 2010, 08:17:40 PM
fantastic!!! and great photos and background work...

massster plynkes  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on March 02, 2010, 08:20:16 PM
lubberley

mors
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Hammers on March 02, 2010, 09:00:43 PM
Sah-WEET!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: cram on March 02, 2010, 09:17:41 PM
Thats one fantastic looking army!!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: ushistoryprof on March 02, 2010, 10:27:50 PM
Great work.  Good hunting in the heart of Africa.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: airbornegrove26 on July 14, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
Plynkes,

I have tried several times in the past two days to copy your straw hats, what colors did you use?  If you don't remember that's cool. I have a little project going should have pic's to post in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on July 14, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
Really must get back into the habit of writing this kind of information down. Can't remember exactly, but I think it was something like this:

Coat d'Arms Leather Brown, perhaps with a little bit of GW Graveyard Earth or something like that in it.
-Then given a wash of GW Gryphonne Sepia.
-Finally highlighted with the original colour plus something in the same area but lighter. Can't remember exactly what it was, Coat d'Arms Buff or Linen or one of their sands. Something like that.

Sorry for being a bit vague. Head like a sieve, me. I Look forward to seeing your project.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Calimero on July 14, 2010, 02:15:58 PM

WoW, that's a really nicely painted bunch 8)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Traveler Man on July 14, 2010, 02:58:44 PM
Beautiful work, Plynkes!  :-* That mule is the orneriest looking critter of its kind I've seen for a long time!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Johnno on July 14, 2010, 03:38:28 PM
Nice work.
After reviewing your Re: Back to Africa: Arabs link
How about a battle report?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on July 14, 2010, 05:24:57 PM
Need to finish painting those damn Arabs before I can play with them.

But as it happens I am doing a bit of just that today. Dunno when we will get to play a game though. Have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: airbornegrove26 on July 14, 2010, 05:44:43 PM
Thanks Plynkes,

That puts me in the right direction.  Will definitely get some post up in the next couple week.  Lets call my project the "Not so Force Publique" for now.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Shikari Sahib on July 14, 2010, 05:46:37 PM
BRAVO
Really nice painting, a wonderful army, as usually  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Axebreaker on July 14, 2010, 11:36:38 PM
Really,really wonderful painting! :-* :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Helen on July 15, 2010, 12:14:18 AM
Nice work Dylan,

Helen
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on July 15, 2010, 11:50:44 AM
Great stuff; which figures did you use for the Zande Scouts and the Cannibals?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on July 15, 2010, 12:07:04 PM
The cannibals are from the Foundry Darkest Africa range. I couldn't tell you the exact pack as they were a birthday present from my mate, and didn't come in official packaging. I think he got them off eBay. I managed to scrounge together enough similar-looking shields from the bits box, as they came without any (that's why they don't match exactly, some have wicker shields and some have wooden ones).

The scouts are Copplestone Azande musketmen. Though I seem to recall one of them is actually a Foundry figure, again an Azande sculpted by Mark Copplestone, though.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on July 15, 2010, 01:28:12 PM
Thanks, I've have a rummage through the websites and convert some more gold into lead...
Which, BTW, is the slogan for my and Ignatieff's new wargaming sub brand:
'The Reverse Alchemists- Turning Gold into Lead'.

I'll get me coat.....
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Ace From Outer Space on July 15, 2010, 10:10:09 PM
Very nice work Poly!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: zuluwar on July 15, 2010, 10:31:48 PM
wouh wouh wouh !!!!!!!!!!!!!

excellent stuff

gérard
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on August 24, 2010, 11:01:30 AM
Can you tell me who does the Nordenfelt (?) and crew please?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on August 24, 2010, 11:21:58 AM
The gun itself is from Copplestone Castings, it is sold with a Royal Navy crew and parts to make it into either a Gardner or a Nordenfelt. All three crewmen are just Foundry Force Publique officers/NCOs. The one manning the gun is slightly converted. He started off life brandishing a sword. I simply cut that arm off and gave him the arm of the British sailor that comes with the gun (the arm is a separate casting which makes things even easier).
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on August 24, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
Unfortunately, I just checked the Copplestone site and it seems the gun isn't currently available. Couldn't find it there.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on August 24, 2010, 11:34:43 AM
Thanks...the hunt for the gun begins!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: coggon on August 24, 2010, 11:57:11 AM
The Perry's have a Nordenfelt in their Sudan range
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on August 31, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Plynkes, I got my mitts on a Copplestone Nordenfelt...did you shorten the gun trail on your model?

Having now had a closer look at the photo I don't think you did...
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on September 02, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
I don't think I shortened anything. Don't recall doing so.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 03, 2010, 09:08:48 AM
Thanks.
When I got the miniatures I was surprised at the length of the Nordenfelt/Gardner carriage trail.
However the sculpt/casting is excellent.
Mark Copplestone says that the mold is shot and the master has gone AWOL, so I don't know if any more will be done/available.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Arthur on September 03, 2010, 08:03:52 PM
That's a shame : it was a neat little model. Quite a few Copplestone Darkest Africa items went O.O.P over the past few years. Some did resurface, like the British sailors in Sennet hats, but the Zanzibari regulars are still unavailable and likely to remain so for a good while.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 04, 2010, 08:55:44 AM
.. the Zanzibari regulars are still unavailable and likely to remain so for a good while.

A major loss, for me at least  :(

I have enough for two 10-man units, but would love a couple more. Oh well......
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Arthur on September 04, 2010, 04:11:40 PM
A major loss, for me at least

There's always the option of dropping Mark Copplestone an e-mail and asking him if he intends to re-release them : Mark usually answers such queries promptly and courteously - which does not necessarily mean he always says 'yes' though. 
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 04, 2010, 04:32:12 PM
Might be worth a try, especially if several people do the same. I know there was a lot of interest in them in past threads  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 17, 2010, 09:00:02 AM
Foundry have a 20% off their collections; just bought the Force Publique one.
Will follow Plynkes lead on crew for the Gardener Guns but, bar the 'Askari with Mountain Gun' in the Foundry range are there any other figures available to use as black and white crew for Force Publique artillery etc out there gentlemen?
I'm no stranger to conversions but would value some pointers.....
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Arthur on September 17, 2010, 06:32:26 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there's nothing out there for the Force Publique per se.

Tiger Miniatures has some German gunners which might be pressed into service :

(http://www.mrsite.co.uk/usersitesv6/tigerminiatures.co.uk/wwwroot/USERIMAGES/IMG_0366(1).JPG)

The figures aren't that great, but I reckon there have potential for conversions.

You may also want to try the Foundry British gunners from the old Taping Rebellion range, as they are wearing a rather generic uniform. You'll need to do headswaps as the helmets aren't right, though :

(http://wargamesfoundry.com/_images/thumbs/BRV305_1273135878_380x250.png?prodid=13205)


Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 17, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
These look OK. I'll give them a whirl. Thanks.
There seems to be no FP as you say; nor much in the 'pantaloons' that can be converted.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 21, 2010, 09:14:14 AM
Can someone tell me what 'T&T force' is please?
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Hammers on September 21, 2010, 09:19:11 AM
I suppose it means a set of miniatures to be used with the rule set Triumph and Tragedy.

See  forum Acronyms (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10822.30)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on September 21, 2010, 09:24:27 AM
Hammers is right on the money. T&T is Triumph and Tragedy, which is the set of rules I like to use for Colonial games and other things too. By 'T&T force' I was just referring to the Belgian force I was building for my T&T games.

Links:
 LAF T&T Message Board  (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=25.0)
 T&T website  (http://www.triumph-tragedy.de/)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 21, 2010, 09:25:27 AM
Thanks gents.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: smirnoff on September 21, 2010, 10:58:02 AM
Tiger Miniatures' 'German Gun and Crew in Sun Helmet' arrived this morning.
Compared to Copplestone/Foundry the sculpts are less fine, and the poses (particularly the standing officer) just a tad 'off'; however I think that they will take conversion.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Christian on October 14, 2010, 11:34:40 AM
Where did the throwing knives on your cannibals come from??
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on October 14, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
They came on little sprues of four knives in my Foundry Azande Warriors packs. The Azande generously donated a few to my cannibals.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Christian on October 14, 2010, 12:02:56 PM
Is that before or after they were invited over for dinner?

I had a look on Foundry's website but I couldn't find these on sprues...

Bloody good work on this army, Plynkes. I've looked at it almost every day this week!
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on October 14, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
No, it doesn't look as if they are available separately. The way Foundry are these days (with their creeping less and lessness in packs) it wouldn't surprise me if they don't even put them in the Azande packs any more.

I had a bit of a crazy fit about Darkest Africa years ago and bought nearly all the deals (bought the Masai one twice!!). It means I have a huge lead mountain of DA, but it also means I have most of the "bonus" one-off figures you can't get any more, and even if I never buy another pack I'll probably have enough stuff to keep me painting until I die. Also back then everything was cheaper, and more guys came in each pack, so I think my folly turned out quite well, all things considered.  :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on October 14, 2010, 02:36:43 PM
I tend to buy the collections, thats the 'orrible collecting habit ive got, but the hordes deals seem to be much better when i got my Azande I reckon there was at least 25% more figures than advertised, including ones not on the website which are presumably the ltd edition ones, however getting a log drum and no drummer is a bummer(ahh ...poetry).
I think the next 20%  sale I might get the Masai horde , I want that bloke on one leg.

Mors
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on October 14, 2010, 02:42:10 PM
When I said "deals" I meant the ones where you get every pack (plus in those days a bonus vignette). I had forgotten about the "hordes." Never bought one of those, as I wanted every figure, rather than a random assortment of figures. They do sound like quite good value though.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Mors on October 14, 2010, 03:06:32 PM
I prefer to get the collection deals ,like you, as I want one of each figure, its a bit annoying knowing they have other castings you cant get. I keep meaning to go to one of the Foundry days and see if I can get some of the specials by twisting a few arms when passing my credit card over.In a ideal world I would buy a collection and a horde but probably best to buy the horde first and see what you are missing.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: cram on October 14, 2010, 10:48:15 PM
I did phone Foundry earlier in the year, about the possibility of getting hold of some of the old "bonus" DA models, if they still had any knocking about, I was prepared to part with a good bit of cash for each model. Whoever I spoke to told me none were currently avaliable, but they had plans to release them in a blister pack/s some point soon, not sure if he just told me that though to get me off the phone  lol. Anyway I've since picked up a few on Ebay.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Christian on October 14, 2010, 10:49:16 PM
I bought one of the Mountain Men sets that I plan to work on next year. The great part is, every time I rustle around the box they came in I find something I can use for other games :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Barry S on October 15, 2010, 02:06:00 AM
These look great  :-*

I ordered T&T along with the Colonial War supplement earlier this week and while anxiously waiting for the arrival, I'm enjoying going through old post looking at peoples T&T forces.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: H.M.Stanley on June 17, 2011, 09:41:40 AM
Damn - he's done another one!!  :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Remington on June 17, 2011, 11:32:59 AM
This is starting to feel like "This is your life" for Plynkes. :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on April 14, 2015, 01:26:17 PM
When I signed up for "It's Alive" I was hoping it might spur me to get back into painting. But unfortunately that hasn't happened and I don't see that changing. Really starting to feel like I'm out of the hobby for good now, it's got to be four years since I played a game, and last summer was the last time I did any painting (and that only because I was ordered to :)).


So Prof or Jim, it might be a good idea to move this thread back where it came from. Nothing more is going to be forthcoming, I'm afraid.

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Bugsda on April 14, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
Really starting to feel like I'm out of the hobby for good now.



That's a shame, but never say never, you might get that buzz again someday.   :)
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Phil Robinson on April 14, 2015, 03:16:46 PM
Sad to see that the muse has left you, I hope that it does return at some point. It was always a pleasure to read your posts and opinions.
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Plynkes on April 21, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
Thanks, Phil. It's very kind of you to say so.

Yeah, Bugs, never say never. For some reason when summer rolls around I generally have a short painting spree. Maybe it will happen again this year, but probably not in time for "It's Alive!"  :)

Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: General M@yhem on April 25, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
I have to echo what others have said. Very sorry to hear that the hobby no longer interests you. I've said it before, but your posts on this forum as well as your blog, played a big part in getting me into war gaming in Darkest Africa. Your reports had me laughing out loud.  :D
Title: Re: Back to Africa: Force Publique
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 25, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
I always enjoy a Plynkes army or battle report :)

I had a few year hiatus from painting once- tossed out almost all my White Dwarfs and sold pretty much everything else off.

Much to my later regret...