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Other Stuff => The Lead Painters' League => Season 4 => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 24, 2010, 01:21:05 AM
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It's happening again :) LPL Season Four will begin on February 22.
The rules has been revised and completed with several clarifications. Maybe the most important change is the 'votes points' rule, I've decided to increase the old limit of five to fifteen. Please read the rules - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15868.0. The rules topic is locked to hold it clear, if you have any questions, feel free to ask anything in this topic.
The bonus themes topic for the Season Four - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15869.0
Also I've cleaned up the LPL board. All the old topics, stickies etc. have been removed to the new child board 'LPL Archiv". So the main board will contain only the LPL4 related themes and revised rules.
This time I will manage the League again. Captain Blood is still the mod of the LPL boards and will manage it and the rounds where I'm not available.
I wish all the participants of Season Four good luck and lot of fun!
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I’m really glad to see the return of the LPL :D
… that being said, I fear I will not score high on the bonus front… :?
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I've been both looking forward to this and dreading it. The latter because I've not painted a thing since the last LPL. Instead of doing work tonight, perhaps I'd better dust off the paints. :)
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A quick question about themed groups -
There was a bit of a question last season about themed groups that represented competing forces within the group (cops vs. robbers, vampire vs. vampire hunters, etc.). If groups represent natural antagonists from the same period, is this allowed, or should a 5-person group only represent a homogenous group?
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Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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A quick question about themed groups -
There was a bit of a question last season about themed groups that represented competing forces within the group (cops vs. robbers, vampire vs. vampire hunters, etc.). If groups represent natural antagonists from the same period, is this allowed, or should a 5-person group only represent a homogenous group?
Good point. Only homogenous group. It's supposed to be a team. I'll add it to the rules.
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Good point. Only homogenous group. It's supposed to be a team. I'll add it to the rules.
Aye. The question has popped up a few times.
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Oh, that's just perfect! Starts after the current exams, and ends before next term's! :P
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I think you could add something about painting times and old works. There have been recurring questions along the lines of "Do we have to paint all the new stuff during the league?" Even though the "previously unpublished" part is fairly clear, there could be a clear "yes, you can start already" or something in the rules. People have been a bit confused about whether it's (morally) justified to enter previously painted stuff.
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Actually I never didn't want to set any limits on it. But I will add some explanation to the rules to avoid further questions.
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I'm in again, it was a good way to plow through the old lead pile and motivate me to paint some squads.
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I didn't think there would be a new season until the summer at least. Aaaaaagh. Totally not ready! :)
Edit: I'm still up for it though. Very excited.
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Great news, Alex! Those marvelous Monday mornings are to return ... ;D
I think I won't have the time for this season, so I will just enjoy all the creativity, beautiful painting and thrill as a voter.
Probable. 8)
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Though it won`t be with any high hopes seeing the pieces of art I see passing on these boards, I think i`ll give it a shot because
1. I never gave it a shot and
2. I actually might be motivated that way to paint up some of the more obscure things I have lying around
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WOW Already :o :o :o
Great news Alex.
Not sure if I am going to have the time I need to compete well (just started a new job) but I will try anyway.
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Excellent! I've got too much work on to compete this time, but I'll be looking forward to monday mornings none the less. :)
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Great ! :D ;D
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Excellent, I dippped out of it last time and greatly missed the excitement a Monday morning would bring whether gorans or cheers when your entry pops up on a page and it doesnt matter whether you win or lose it is the taking part that counts ;)
Count me in :D
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I'd like to have a go this time. I'll give me motivation to paint up some lovely old figures I've had for a long time....!
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REally looking forwards to this. How and when do we register?
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REally looking forwards to this. How and when do we register?
You don’t need to register, just send me your first entry
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thanks, I'll go and grab my brushes!
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Just a quick rules question. Would an artillery piece that would not normally be on a base have to be based for the purposes of this competition? I know it's a weird question but I don't want to DQ myself in the first round!
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Just a quick rules question. Would an artillery piece that would not normally be on a base have to be based for the purposes of this competition?
No problem with an artillery piece without base
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Looking forward to this,just scratched up some barbarians ;D
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Awesome news! I'm going to read the other topics now! :D
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I tink I might just put myself down for this one :D
cheers
James
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Greetings. I believe I will be entering as well. While I definitely be one of, if not THE, scrub, I like the extra motivation to get some stuff out of the door.
Joey
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I'm in! Thanks for organizing another year.
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First figure painted.....4-5 to go........ ;)
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Dug through my box, well boxes, and discover a bunch of female Keltos barbarians, so I'll be doing those.
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Got one team primed and another one purchased...8 more to go.
Sure, you announce this after I post a 22-figure squad of aliens...
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Well, considering I bought over a hundred figures last month, I suppose I've no excuse not to enter. Looks like ten rounds of Old Glory Mahdists for me! ::)
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Well, considering I bought over a hundred figures last month, I suppose I've no excuse not to enter. Looks like ten rounds of Old Glory Mahdists for me! ::)
Excellent. You can never have enough Mahdists ;)
(Different coloured patches every round though please)
:D
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Excellent! I missed out last time, and in addition to motivating me to paint, it will also motivate me to use the light tent I bought last year and actually photograph some models!
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Cool! I also never competed last time, although I did vote in a few rounds.
I'm just getting settled into the new house, but this could be a good excuse to unbox my painting stuff!
-Alex in Alaska
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I've have made my choice :D
I've have played those guys in the excellent "Age of conan" boardgame, the yellow pieces.
Kingdom of Turan is rising in barbaric splendor on the south-western shores of the great inland sea Vilayet.
Inhabited by the Hyrkanian race — dark and generally tall and slender.
Between the inland sea and the eastern borders of the native western kingdoms lie vast expanses of steppes and in the extreme north and extreme south, deserts.
Women wear veils. Silk is very common here, and it is worn by all classes of people from nobles and soldiers to commoners and slaves.
Slavery is very common in Turan. Some of the largest slave markets in all the world exist here.
Nice theme for me so I'll work on a slavers gang.
Have a nice day
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All the best to everybody taking part, I'll look forward to seeing and voting on your entries. :)
As much as I'd love to have my self esteem shattered by joining in, I (as ever) lack the time and discipline to compete. I know you can enter the same group in each round, but I'd want to do fresh ones for each, especially the bonus rounds.
Never gonna happen though. :'(
Well, maybe if I knew what the bonus rounds were a year in advance, and willed myself to resist posting any images for twelve months... That might conceivably work. ::)
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Go on then, I'll have a go this time around. :)
I could do with the motivation to get some painting done and wear the lead mountain down a bit.
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a few questions-
I would like to enter the leage. How do I register?
Do I have to paint a different team for each round, or is taht just to get teh bonus points?
Do my five figured team have to be from a particular theme, or can they be anything I want as long as they are a team?
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a few questions-
I would like to enter the leage. How do I register?
You don't have to "register". You just send in the picture (see the rules for more detail) in time for the deadline.
Do I have to paint a different team for each round, or is taht just to get teh bonus points?
Mainly, it's sensible for the bonus point, but additionally, people might get "bored" of figures they see each week and thus vote for your opponent.
Do my five figured team have to be from a particular theme, or can they be anything I want as long as they are a team?
I'd say they have to follow a general line/theme, but you can of course mix manufacturers etc. A wild mix of figures is not what we had in mind, and people also tend to vote in favour of well-thought, coherent themes.
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So any genre will do? The savage sword of conan is the first bonus round, but if I wanted to enter say, five cowboys, or five greys, is that OK? or does it have to be barbarians for the first round?
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So any genre will do? The savage sword of conan is the first bonus round, but if I wanted to enter say, five cowboys, or five greys, is that OK? or does it have to be barbarians for the first round?
Yes, any genre will do. But no bonus points, only for a Conan entry. Just read the rules - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15868.0
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Ummmm... Am I the only one who feels like they've completely forgotten how to paint since last season...? :'(
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Ummmm... Am I the only one who feels like they've completely forgotten how to paint since last season...? :'(
I might have a chance against you this time, then.
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Ummmm... Am I the only one who feels like they've completely forgotten how to paint since last season...? :'(
I might have a chance against you this time, then.
lol
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This sounds like fun !
Don't know how much I can contribute because basically I'm not a good painter and the camera is not my friend ... lol
I'll give it my best tough !
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I don't want to gloat,well yes alright a little bit.......my first round entry is almost finished,by Crom,heh,heh.
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Well I think I'm going to have to drop out of LPL even before it's started! I've just received a telephone call that I've become a Dad to little Shipho who is 13 months old in South Africa, we travel the end of february to go and finish the adoption papers and bring him home!
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Well I think I'm going to have to drop out of LPL even before it's started! I've just received a telephone call that I've become a Dad to little Shipho who is 13 months old in South Africa, we travel the end of february to go and finish the adoption papers and bring him home!
Wow! Congratulations and all the best, what a wonderful thing to do! :)
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Wow! Congratulations and all the best, what a wonderful thing to do! :)
Let me chime in with JB here. Congratulations!
Friends of ours adopted a boy from SA three yeas ago and are now waiting to adopt a second child.
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Well I think I'm going to have to drop out of LPL even before it's started! I've just received a telephone call that I've become a Dad to little Shipho who is 13 months old in South Africa, we travel the end of february to go and finish the adoption papers and bring him home!
I'm trying to adopt as well - I'd love to have to drop out of LPL for something like this.
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I'm trying to adopt as well - I'd love to have to drop out of LPL for something like this.
Bless you. :)
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Thank guys, it is pretty amazing! Lance how far through the adoption process are you?
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Season 4? Hoorah!
It must be Spring, already!
Count me in.
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First entry is in 8)
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Oooh.
Mine sent about 15 minutes ago :D
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got it!
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:o :o :o
Have the dates changed?
I thought I still had a couple of weeks :'(
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:o :o :o
Have the dates changed?
I thought I still had a couple of weeks :'(
no worries, the deadline is still February 21 :)
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Hello y'all!
Just registered 'cause I got interested through a link I received about the League!
Strolling through last seasons' fantastic entries this really got me going...
This will be a great start to for our Pulp gaming wich we recently started.
So I would be really pleased to enter the LPL this year, just one question:
I read the rules and bonus round and might have missed it, but how do I register?
Send a message to Prof. Witchheimer?
Thanks and good luck to everyone!
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You don't need to register as such. You join in by simply sending in your first entry.
Where to send it, and all the other rules, are on this thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15868.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15868.0)
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Ok great!
Thanks very much for the hint and the additional rules, will read 'em right away!
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Mailed my entry for week 1 just now.
Ambitions for my first entry year ever: learn to use a camera lol
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There is no doubt that mastering how to take good, well-composed and well-lit pictures of your figures is every bit as important as painting them nicely when it comes to the voting public.
Invest the time in practising your photography skills before the league gets under way.
There are lots of good tutorials about, including this one http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=6052.0
Getting the hang of taking good pics of your handiwork will pay back big dividends :)
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There is no doubt that mastering how to take good, well-composed and well-lit pictures of your figures is every bit as important as painting them nicely when it comes to the voting public.
Invest the time in practising your photography skills before the league gets under way.
There are lots of good tutorials about, including this one http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=6052.0
Getting the hang of taking good pics of your handiwork will pay back big dividends :)
Amen to that. Setting up a tripod, tent and light like this...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/134_07_07_09_11_01_31_2.jpg)
...may look complicated but it isn't. It has save me hours of frustration and the photos come out to my satisfaction.
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5 entries so far... 8)
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Sent mine. Did you get it?
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Sent mine. Did you get it?
sure, and replied to your email.
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5 in already? I am slow - still working on the "team leader" before doing the other 4 together for cohesion. Of course, I spent too much time today searching for the perfect team leader for the zombie round - but at least I figured it out after my first choice was going to be unavailable. Can't wait to see all the entries!
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My second-round team is done and submitted.
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My first entry's figures are done since two week already (only 8 figures)… I've put some static grass on the bases yesterday… If I keep this paces, I will take the picture next Friday… and send it on the 21st … ;D
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8 entries are in 8)
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We had 46 players in LPL3, so we've got a way to go. Come on chaps - only a week left... Throw those hats into the ring, don't keep the Prof on tenterhooks :)
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I will hopefully post my roound 1 entry tomorrow. Figures finished and photos taken, just got to arrange the photos, cropping and resizing etc.
Started round 2 entry tonight :)
Thats me ahead of the game, better than I was this time last year :o
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I undercoated my first 6 figures yesterday and will start painting tomorrow. Cutting it tight I know but I hope to beat the deadline.
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Nearly done on rounds one, two and three. I'll probably send then in at the weekend.
I'm really looking forward to see the other entries :)
cheers
James
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Still working on my first round entry. Making things harder for myself by converting them first. Painting should be completed in the next couple of evenings. Round 2 already done, giving me a breathing space for Round 3 etc.
Looking forward to next Monday morning.... :D
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Why do I want to say VSF paul?
;D
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mmmkay...I'm showing severe signs of noobness in this League.
Taking pics didn't go as well as I thought. Man is it hard to take good photos of your mini's once they're painted up, but it will do for now!
So I wanted to enter my first round team, it's as good as it gets, and understanded that it should be e-mailed to Prof. Witchheimer.
Can somebody point me in the direction of the correct adress?
In looking for it I think I must have missed it somewhere 'cause after re-reading rules, profiles and general league info I'm starting to go cross-eyed o_o
No really, that already happened a long time ago from painting figurines!!! ;D
Thanks!
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Hi there Northstar.
No, taking good pics is just as hard as painting! :)
Email your entry to lpl@leadadventureforum.com
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Can we enter a group of figures that are painted and varnished but have no bases in the LPL? :?
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'Fraid not.
The rule is:
"The only hard and fast rule - all figures must be completely painted, and all bases must be finished. We ONLY accept pictures of finished models, "work in progress" (WIP) shots are NOT allowed."
Obviously the nature of the base and finish itself is up to you though - so this could just mean the integral base painted green. Although that wouldn't really be in the spirit of the league ;)
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Obviously the nature of the base and finish itself is up to you though - so this could just mean the integral base painted green. Although that wouldn't really be in the spirit of the league ;)
And I seem to recall a number of occasions where voters stated that half-done bases had actually convinced them to vote in favour of the other entry; I'd say finished, decently-done bases can serve you well as a tie-breaker when people have a hard time deciding between two entries.
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The rule is:
"The only hard and fast rule - all figures must be completely painted, and all bases must be finished. We ONLY accept pictures of finished models, "work in progress" (WIP) shots are NOT allowed."
I should have read the rules better… Sorry ::)
I’ve got several half-painted figures that I intend to sell without bases so the buyer could base them according to his liking.
Anyway, the rule is pretty obvious so I will just dig in the lead mountain and find something else to enter the LPL.
Thanks pals 8)
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I've got my week two entry done, but my week one entry is only half finished, should all be good in time. :)
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First round entry sent :D
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Mine too! ;D
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Rounds 1 and 2 are submitted, rounds 3 and 4 are about half way completed and round five is done and photographed. Just need to scrounge up the second half.
Would some choice Warmachine minis count as VSF?
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Got the first figure for Round 3 painted, and the other four are mostly basecoated.
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14 entries are in :)
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Methinks you'll be getting a glut over the weekend Prof :D
cheers
James
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Like the wind I go in many directions with my projects.
Unfortunately, my present project is really not compatible with the competition, so this year I will be sitting out and gawking at all the beautiful entries.
My goal is to unveil the completed project just after the end of Season Four...
Good luck to all contestants and really looking forward to the start!
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that's a pity, Ray, I really was looking forward for your entries :'(
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Sorry, Prof.
Since the last season I've knocked off close to 90 figures and I need a change in scenery.
I will be back... ;)
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No scooby :'( :'( :'(
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No scooby :'( :'( :'(
...That was the highlight of my monday morning... :'(
See you in LPL 5 then Ray ;D
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My entry for round 1 is in !
Taking a decent picture is no simple matter indeed, hopefully I'll get the hang of it before the leage ends ! Or maybe not ... a clearer image will only help to show that my painting skills are rather crappy ;)
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I've got LPL lunacy,my first round is not as good as the second round,I've been discarding figs from my 2nd round entry as not good enough (tho' almost done, posted on the weekend)and my list of entries for each round reads like a list of LAF fora.Finally my round 10 entry may end up sending me mad,more brass,more dials........... o_o,I don't even know what I'm building yet,it however will involve wheel(s).
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Should have my first entry in within 48 hours if I sort out my lighting issues. Made a start on entries two and three and I'm very excited about the whole thing. Has anyone else found themselves looking at their lead mountain in a different way? Suddenly miniatures that have been unpainted for 10 years have been pushed to the top of my to-paint list, it's crazy.
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Ok, after some refiguring I've got rounds 1-3 submitted with even a Conanific first-round entry. Woo.
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I'm a firstimer considering participating, but want to make sure I don't inadvertently break any rules. Is it a requirement that minis be painted within the league period, or can one use previously painted miniatures for one's team? Even if I don't participate, I'm looking forward to seeing one of these unfold in real time!
Jim
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Is it a requirement that minis be painted within the league period, or can one use previously painted miniatures for one's team?
Feel free to use previously painted miniatures, no problem. Just notice:
Note, though, that you receive 10 bonus points for every NEWLY-PAINTED (PREVIOUSLY UNPUBLISHED) team you enter.
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Must one participate in every Round of the LPL season? What if I miss the first, for instance? Can I join in on the second?
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Must one participate in every Round of the LPL season? What if I miss the first, for instance? Can I join in on the second?
No more - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16332.0
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Thanks!
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In order to put my figs up for the LPL they have to be previously unseen, but can I post WIP pics on my blog, or does that make them ineligable for the compertition?
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Great! I'm a painfully slow painter, but I'd love to try this out. If anything, it'll be a great chance to work on my photography skills.
Jim
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In order to put my figs up for the LPL they have to be previously unseen, but can I post WIP pics on my blog, or does that make them ineligable for the compertition?
Well strictly speaking, to qualify for 'new team' bonus points, a team should be previously unpublished in its finished state. Which would mean it's okay to show some WIP pictures elsewhere.
Probably best to understand the reason for the rule though - which is that we all want to see newly painted things for the LPL - not just old stuff trotted out again. Hence the bonus points for 'new' teams.
So philosophically, I'd say it's okay to post some early WIP shots of an LPL team on your blog - but if you post pics of largely completed figures, then you'll be in danger of going against the letter of the rules, if not the spirit.
So safest not to if you want the bonus points ;)
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Reagrding the rule pertaining to image composition:
The entry picture may NOT be a collage of individual pictures, but should be a "group shot" of the complete team, possibly in a decorated environment, or in front of a plain backdrop. You may, however, add some closeups of small aspects, like faces, equipment, etc., but the main focus of the image must clearly be on "the team".
Is it permissible to include a short title in a text banner within the image - something describing what the team represents? For example:
"Arthurian war band, c 500 AD"
Thanks.
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Reagrding the rule pertaining to image composition:
Is it permissible to include a short title in a text banner within the image - something describing what the team represents? For example:
"Arthurian war band, c 500 AD"
Thanks.
Yes, it's permissible to include text within the overall image.
Several people did in the last LPL, although you don't need to, since the title of each entry will be given in the relevant match.
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Thanks, Cap'n. :)
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For a better idea of whats allowed I would suggest looking through previous years stuff.
Here a link to last year.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=37.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=37.0)
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For a better idea of whats allowed I would suggest looking through previous years stuff.
Here a link to last year.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=37.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=37.0)
You can, but keep in mind that there are some transgression which Richard and Alex at the time let slip (guilty!). Also remeber that the rules may have changed somewhat.
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Prof. are you sending out individual e-mail confirmations on entries received?
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Dropped my Conan entry to the floor as I was dull coating it. Major appendage broke off.
Pants. Arse. Shit, even. :-[
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Prof. are you sending out individual e-mail confirmations on entries received?
yes, of course.
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Dropped my Conan entry to the floor as I was dull coating it. Major appendage broke off.
Pants. Arse. Shit, even. :-[
glad you're participating :)
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glad you're participating :)
Thanks for saying so. I've been torn. Realistically I won't be able to enter something each turn but with the first in at least I have the option.
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Dropped my Conan entry to the floor as I was dull coating it. Major appendage broke off.
Pants. Arse. Shit, even. :-[
Annoying that, isn't it.
I recently dropped figure that I'd just finished varnishing onto the carpet - it came up covered in fluff. Took quite some time to put right... ::)
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yes, of course.
Sorry, I was so excited to have an entry in before the deadline, I forgot about the time difference...! ::)
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I cant wait. Finished a unit up for the competition and have a small unit done for round 2. Maybe this will motivate me to finish up a lot of half done stuff.
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Off to get some batteries for the old box brownie tomorrow misse dthe last one and regretted it
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With the first bonus round being what it is, I was really hoping to get in on this - but a new job combined with me being such a slow painter will keep me out. I look forward to seeing all the barbarians in the first round, and I'll try to join in next time around. Good luck to everyone!
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23 Entries are in 8)
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Now I dropped Conan himself on his head and some kind of vomiting plague has inflicted Cottage Morannonn where the Hammers reside. Never the less I shall not strike my colours. Expect an entry during the day.
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Now I dropped Conan himself on his head and some kind of vomiting plague has inflicted Cottage Morannonn where the Hammers reside.
Sorry to hear that, Peder. There seems to be a minis-dropping-curse over Cottage Morannonn. Looking forward for your entry.
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Sorry to hear that, Peder. There seems to be a minis-dropping-curse over Cottage Morannonn. Looking forward for your entry.
Can't blame the cottage this time. It's an affliction of mine since I was a toddler.
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Entry submitted.
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Mine to.
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29 Entries..
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29 Entries..
Excellent.
I'm sure there'll be a late rush tomorrow! ;)
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I'm sure there'll be a late rush tomorrow! ;)
I'm sure, too :)
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Do you suppose there will be fewer entries this season since you can't join after LPL S4R1?
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Do you suppose there will be fewer entries this season since you can't join after LPL S4R1?
Maybe, maybe not. This sunday will show it.
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Just sent mine, I hope I did everything right...
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Just sent mine, I hope I did everything right...
Yes, everything is fine.
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Well I looks like I got mine in for round 1
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I'm also in! Good luck all! :)
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Got my round 4 entry finished today, but I have to wait for my wife to return with the camera before I can submit...
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Sent mine. I also hope everything is fine. Good luck to everyone.
Chuck
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Round 1 is in...Let's dance!
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Got mine in, too. Good luck to all:)
-Doc
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39 entries in :)
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Good luck to everyone!
Really looking forward to seeing all the eye candy!
Mmmmmm.... ;D
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Not shabby. Who will be matched against #39? The Prof. or The Captain?
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Not shabby. Who will be matched against #39? The Prof. or The Captain?
TAG TEAM!!!
:o ;)
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I'm out :( Had far too much to do this weekend (including a bloody trip to Tescos at 22:30 :-[ ).
I think I can get in for round two etc though :)
Looking foraward to seeing what's out there :D
cheers
James
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I think I can get in for round two etc though :)
No you can't. Rules are different this year. If you're not in for round one you're not in at all.
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GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY, and I really look forward to tomorrow morning ...
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No you can't. Rules are different this year. If you're not in for round one you're not in at all.
Bugger, missed that. *rushes off to re-read the rules* Bugger.
Ah well, there's always next year :)
cheers
James
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Oh come on James! You can get something in! ;)
Just to be clear, it doesn't have to be brand new painting - unless you want the bonus points for a new team.
But then there are no 'new team' bonus points in round 1 anyway - so it doesn't really matter.
So enter something you've already done.
At least once you've got a team in play, you can then put some new teams into later rounds.
:)
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Where do I e-mail my entry?
=/ can't find the e-mail address in the rules. I'll look again.
Edit: found it... !
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Oh come on James! You can get something in! ;)
Just to be clear, it doesn't have to be brand new painting - unless you want the bonus points for a new team.
But then there are no 'new team' bonus points in round 1 anyway - so it doesn't really matter.
So enter something you've already done.
At least once you've got a team in play, you can then put some new teams into later rounds.
:)
To late though, entries to be in before 07:00 on the Sunday ( I wasn't even up then ;D )
cheers
James
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Oh darn. I thought it was 7:00 PM Sunday! I've been rushing since about 8:00 AM this morning... Pacific time of course!
And to think I braved my wife's ire to get these guys done! Oh well. There's always next season!
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I won't be too picky in the Round One. If you would send me your entry today I will take it :)
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That's very kind Prof :)
*rushes off to get his camera*
cheers
James
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Oh great, thanks! I just got your e-mail. I'm looking forward to this! Motivation it is!
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I've been smegging about all day trying to get some photos of my first few entries.
Hopefully it's all good as I'm well over the time limit now.
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Mine's in (well, the e-mail is sent :) )
cheers
James
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Wow, I really love the way this league is picking up the pace!
Peolple rushing to get things in last-minute, the anticipation, thinking about the upcoming rounds...all this is new to me!
Great concept, can't believe I didn't find it sooner!
:D
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I won't be too picky in the Round One. If you would send me your entry today I will take it :)
HOLY COW I'm glad to hear that!
(*Alex also rushes off to grab his camera*)
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HOLY COW I'm glad to hear that!
(*Alex also rushes off to grab his camera*)
Me too mine has just gone in
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44... 8)
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44... 8)
WOW
Here we go again :D
Can't wait till the morning
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What sort of time are the boards open?
Also, I might of missed this (had another look at the rules) but what are the stipulations for entrants voting?
cheers
James
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Not sure exactly what time they go up but it's traditionally a first thing Monday Morning treat to have with your cornflakes for us Brits (but I noticed last year Blood was putting the pics up in the gallery around midnight Sunday/Monday, so you could get a sneak preview before you went to bed).
Stipulations for voting? You're a LAF member - you get to vote, entrant or not. Your vote is your own and you may spend it as you choose. Some will try to tell you how to vote (saying you shouldn't take this or that into account, and go only by the paint-job), happens every year. Ignore them. Vote how you like.
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Thanks for that :)
cheers
James
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The polls will be up Monday Morning, ca. 06.00 GMT
Stipulations for voting?
how Plynkes said.
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OOF! Relief! Got mine in, photographed, titled, and everything! Definitely looking forward to the competition!
-Alex
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Taking pics for round 4...
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Now only remains the biting of nails until 06:00, GMT...
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I've decided not to wait till Monday Morning :) Here are the polls, please give your votes.
We're starting with 46 participants, like Season Three. Good luck to all participants of LPL!
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So it begins...
That was some evil pairing but hey, so ist es halt im Leben. lol
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So it begins...
That was some evil pairing but hey, so ist es halt im Leben. lol
the evil curse of random selection :)
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ARSE! I thought the deadline was next Monday :(
Oh well. Good luck everyone capable of knowing the date :D
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Good luck everyone capable of knowing the date :D
lol
I took all brain power I could muster but that timble drained so now I am worrying about my lack of awareness of Round 2.
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Am I blind or is Plynkes not playing with us this time?
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Am I blind or is Plynkes not playing with us this time?
You're not blind.
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You're not blind.
Ah. A pity.
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Ah. A pity.
You said it.
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I've had to drop out of this now, as we're moving house in a few weeks, so everything is being packed.
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Am I blind or is Plynkes not playing with us this time?
:'(
Orctrader and Tellus as well... Argh!
:'( :'( :'(
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Am I blind or is Plynkes not playing with us this time?
It was fun to do it once, but that's enough for me. It ended up taking over my life last time, including having to take time off work to meet the deadlines (I just can't paint fast enough without doing that). Really don't fancy doing all that again.
Sorry, boys. But thanks for thinking of me. :)
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It was fun to do it once, but that's enough for me. It ended up taking over my life last time, including having to take time off work to meet the deadlines (I just can't paint fast enough without doing that). Really don't fancy doing all that again.
Sorry, boys. But thanks for thinking of me. :)
I know where you're coming from there, mate. I don't really expect I am able to enter something new each round.
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Yes, quite a few familiar names and notable painting talents sadly missing-in-action this time... :(
There again, there are quite a few new names in the ring - so not all bad ;)
There's no doubt about it - getting ten sets of figures ready in such a short space of time is a tall order for anybody, and somewhat detrimental to other aspects of one's life. As my wife would be the first to tell you.
I confess, I was in two minds myself whether to go for it.
But then I thought, what the hell... :D
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There again, there are quite a few new names in the ring - so not all bad ;)
Indeed,
It's going to be interesting... :o
:)
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But then I thought, what the hell... :D
LPL is all about 'what the hell'. :)
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LPL is all about 'what the hell'. :)
Totally agree
I have just found out today that my new job may be taking me away from home for a couple weeks to Newcastle, in early March :-[
So I may have to miss a couple of rounds this year as well. I wish I could say what the hell and just not go but thats real life interfering with my hobby :'(
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Yes, quite a few familiar names and notable painting talents sadly missing-in-action this time... :(
There again, there are quite a few new names in the ring - so not all bad ;)
Quite a few new names, most of which I havent heard of or come across anywhere else on the forum. :?
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I don't really expect to be able to enter a new group every week, but that's the goal. I'll take it all as it comes!
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Good luck to all, some nice entries so far. I cast some votes, I'm in the no way could I keep up with the volume, plus I need to make terrain and do some character models...
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:'(
Orctrader and Tellus as well... Argh!
:'( :'( :'(
Sorry to disappoint. :? I struggled with the pace last time, and RL even more busy at the moment. I'll be voting though. :)
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Quite a few new names, most of which I havent heard of or come across anywhere else on the forum. :?
You're right about that !
I just joined a few weeks ago especially for the league ;)
This great forum has only recently come to our attention when we started with Pulp games at our local wargamesclub and I'm still busy reading the older posts to nick an idea here and there :D
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I expected to see a lot of Grenadier/EM4/Copplestone Barbarians for round one, but I'm rather surprised to see all the classic Citadel Barbarians too... It brings a tear of nostalgia to my eye :'(
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Sorry to see some of our friends missing but it is understandable... and it is nice to see some new names in the lists! :D
Darkoath
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I expected to see a lot of Grenadier/EM4/Copplestone Barbarians for round one, but I'm rather surprised to see all the classic Citadel Barbarians too... It brings a tear of nostalgia to my eye :'(
It is the only ones I had.
The point, for me, for the LPL was to reduce the lead mountain not make it bigger by buying new stuff (well not loads of new stuff just some :D). The ones I used were old models, used as characters for DnD, and they were in serious need of a repaint.
I notice a couple of my figures are in the running for most seen figure in LPL 4.
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I notice a couple of my figures are in the running for most seen figure in LPL 4.
Yes, that Citadel Barbarian with the mace-and-chain seems like the popular one. I almost did that one myself (glad I didn't, now...!).
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Sorry to disappoint. :? I struggled with the pace last time, and RL even more busy at the moment. I'll be voting though. :)
The same with me, also it collides with painting for the Tactica and I'm a bit in a hurry. I was thinking about entering till round 5 and beeing not to competetive but than this rule was changed.
This is for you Ray ;) :
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z34/zyphalion/Uxbridge.jpg)
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This is for you Ray ;) :
:-*
Very nice!
Thanks! :)
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Thats my round 2 entry sent in :D
Going to struggle with round 3 though :(
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I send Alex pictures of my 2nd and 3rd entries today… now I need to find what to paint for round no 4… :?
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My week two entry is on it's way now. :)
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My week number two is in- I can't beleive how hard it is to paint five in a week! I am determined to keep up with teh schedula, mainily to reduce my lead mountain. this is a great excuse to get all those little side projects finished.
week three is about 3/5 done. :D
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I am really digging into my lead mountain. I am painting more than I am entering.
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Almost done with 2nd round. This is actually quite harder than I imagined it would be. Full time job, children have made me work into the evening in an attempt to get extra paint on figures.
Oh well, I'll enter as many as I can!
Will I get disqualified if I am unable to keep up with the rounds?
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You can just re-enter a previous entry I believe to `keep up` with the rounds.
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You can just re-enter a previous entry I believe to `keep up` with the rounds.
That's right. No disqualification :D
Unless you send in a new team, your existing team will just continue into the next round and be rematched against a new opponent.
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34 replacements so far :)
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Did you get my round 2 and 3 entries Prof? :?
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Did you get my round 2 and 3 entries Prof? :?
yes, I've got, sorry, looks like I've forgotten to send you a confirmation email.
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Okay then, thanks a lot :D
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34 replacements so far :)
I'm quite thrilled by the thought that at least 170 new minis have been painted this week by the bold LPLers alone. And that must be only the tip of the LAF leadberg. Take that, you "pro-painters" who only manage to ponder the possibility of painting one mini in a year. :)
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I'm quite thrilled by the thought that at least 170 new minis have been painted this week by the bold LPLers alone. And that must be only the tip of the LAF leadberg. Take that, you "pro-painters" who only manage to ponder the possibility of painting one mini in a year. :)
yes this is not a compertition for the Golden Demon lot. This one will sort the men form the boys!
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Argh, Sunday night and not quite done with the second week's entry (which was really supposed to be my first weeks entry!). Crapcakes. Looks like it'll be the Chaos Warband two weeks in a row for me!! :'( :'( :'(
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Round 2 started. 38 replacements. Good luck! :)
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Are we going to have league standing results posted?
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Are we going to have league standing results posted?
of course, just working on it.
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New entries for rounds 3 and 4 submitted :)
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My round-five entry suddenly became 1/3 of my round-10 entry, so I'm not quite sure what to do now.
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Prof
Sent in my round three entry last night but I havn't received a confirmation email?
Did it arrive?
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yes, I was on a business trip, therefore no reply.
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Great thanks
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I sent my round 3 entry in.
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I just mailed my entries for rounds 3 and 4.
Rounds 6 and 7 are basecoated again ... third time and counting, must be getting a sort of lpl-fobia : Too intimidated by real painters ;D
Round 5 will depend on the postal services, go mailman go ! lol
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Work has been, well work this week. I'm probably going to miss round 3. Does my last entry automatically stay the one I submit for 3rd round or do I submit it again via e-mail?
Thanks!
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It stays automatically.
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Just sent in my third entry. Didn't manage to finish it yesterday, so I had to paint the last few details after an awesome day at ducosim, a dutch gaming con. We played Force-on-Force, bat-rep will follow and had a great time! Now I can't wait until monday to see all the new entries :D
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Third entry send and confirmed, 4th stands ready for being mailed the comming week, 5th will be pushing and hoping the boss doesn`t send me to much abroad
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28 replacements so far.
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Round 3 is in.
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Ditto.
-Doc
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Really fallen behind on this :( but, the missus is away for the week and work is slacking up somewhat so...
Hooray :D I'll be in for round four and more :D ( I have already got the figures for round ten and I've started work on the bits to go with it ;) )
cheers
James
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Round 3 started. 39 replacements. Good luck 8)
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I have two small questions…
1) Can anybody vote on the LPL or you have to be a "registered member"? (ie. can "guess" vote?)
2) For the LPL, mounted figures are counted as two figures or just one?
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I have two small questions…
1) Can anybody vote on the LPL or you have to be a "registered member"? (ie. can "guess" vote?)
The voting functionality is only open to logged-in users.
2) For the LPL, mounted figures are counted as two figures or just one?
Pending confirmation from the Prof, they were always counted as one (number of bases).
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Pending confirmation from the Prof, they were always counted as one (number of bases).
correct.
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A follow-up question on that topic. Do vehicles count as one? Vehicle+driver count as two?
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A follow-up question on that topic. Do vehicles count as one? Vehicle+driver count as two?
yes and yes.
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A follow-up question on that topic. Do vehicles count as one? Vehicle+driver count as two?
yes and yes.
Not wanting to object, but shouldn't a fixed driver (or tank commander in a hatch, for that matter) be counted as part of the model, as with cavalry? If they are separate models, they should be treated as two items.
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Not wanting to object, but shouldn't a fixed driver (or tank commander in a hatch, for that matter) be counted as part of the model, as with cavalry? If they are separate models, they should be treated as two items.
Good hint. Agreed!
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I had three vehicles with a total of nine crew planned as an entry for later on, thinking that would count as nine models.
Is that actually three then?
If so I'll get something else done.
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I had three vehicles with a total of nine crew planned as an entry for later on, thinking that would count as nine models.
Is that actually three then?
If so I'll get something else done.
Only one vehicle with one fixed driver would count as one model. With nine crew, you're in, feel free to enter it :)
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Only one vehicle with one fixed driver would count as one model. With nine crew, you're in, feel free to enter it :)
Magic, Cheers Prof.
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Good stuff as always being posted, so far this week, I'm voting for more losers, or at least the people currently losing as obviously I like them better.
Could shake up things some.
Cheers,
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Entry 4 is sent, now unto entry 5 :)
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That's my round 4 entry away. Now to try and paint 10 figures for next week :'(
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Entry 4 completed and awaiting decent light conditions to be photographed ::)
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Round 4 entry in…
Now, what can I paint next? The only sure thing; it’s NOT going to be Zombies as I don’t have any… lol
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Week 4 in. Now for zombies...blech :-I :`
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Week 4 is in Not what I was planning to send but the new pictures were really bad. I really need to learn to take & size my photos. Every thing I try seems to get worse not better. Hopefully I will get better pics of my zombies & survivors The ones I just took are in the batch that came out really bad.
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Round 4! 34 pic replacements and 1 participant replacement (knoxville for tsar1701). Good Luck!
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Just checking before starting on my next entry: a fireteam of four figures together with their vehicle counts as 5 models?
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Just checking before starting on my next entry: a fireteam of four figures together with their vehicle counts as 5 models?
Is one of the models the driver of the vehicle? the fixed driver don't count..
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Nope, the vehicle is enclosed and the four soldiers are loose miniatures, so with the vehicle added there are five seperate entities/models.
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than it's fine.
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I know it would be difficult to enforce this, but I'd love to see a new rule (in the future, of course) for a minimum number of fresh entries per participant.
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Isn’t it what the 10 point bonus for "new team" are for?
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I know it would be difficult to enforce this, but I'd love to see a new rule (in the future, of course) for a minimum number of fresh entries per participant.
difficult, you said it..
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I know it would be difficult to enforce this, but I'd love to see a new rule (in the future, of course) for a minimum number of fresh entries per participant.
Isn’t it what the 10 point bonus for "new team" are for?
I'm with Calimero on this one. I've set myself a target of only entering unpublished stuff this time (i.e. the majority of figures, minimum five, never seen before), and managed to make it so far; however, an obligation could unfairly penalise people when life kicks them somewhere painful.
For example, my current entry was not planned as an LPL entry (the Marines are "bulking" figures which remained after I constructed the participating group for Round 3, and the Aliens were not planned for LPL publication at all), but I could not finish my original planned entry due to an acute case of schiatic pain syndrome which struck me on Thursday. I'm much better by now, but couldn't paint anything for the last days (heck, even sitting down was pretty much out of the question), so I would have been royally miffed if that would have meant failing a stipulation.
I think the Bonus point incentive is a better approach, and additionally, "repeat runners" tend to get less and less votes every subsequent round, simply due to the fact that people already know them and the "wow" factor is dramatically deflated.
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I think the Bonus point incentive is a better approach, and additionally, "repeat runners" tend to get less and less votes every subsequent round, simply due to the fact that people already know them and the "wow" factor is dramatically deflated.
This is true, but seeing the same thing over and over (and over and over) again makes the LPL a little less enchanting. Certainly something could be done to prevent the occasional contestant from popping in an entry at the beginning of the event and they're never heard from again.
That's my say on the subject - I'll now shut up and leave the idea to fester in the Prof's mind for next time. :)
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I could not finish my original planned entry due to an acute case of schiatic pain syndrome which struck me on Thursday. I'm much better by now, but couldn't paint anything for the last days (heck, even sitting down was pretty much out of the question), so I would have been royally miffed if that would have meant failing a stipulation.
I know it's a bit of an aside, but I have the same problem, and I find that the only thing that actually helps, other than strong pain killers, is painting. What I do is lie down on the rug, on my front, proped up on my elbows, and paint like that. it can take a but of getting used to, and when I first started it used to make my shoulders ache after a while, but I find it is brilliant for stretching the back. What is more, with both elbows on the floor, my hand is well suported for fine work like eyes etc.
like I said, it's a bit of an aside, but I hope it helps you with your problem.
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I've been struggling to get stuff done since round 2. I hope those of us who are unable to produce as much are still allowed to participate. This is a great motivator, I've finished something like 17 miniatures this year after painting an average of probably 1-2 over the last 10 years!
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Actually, the reason I joined (and `inspired` Andy and Northstar to do the same in the club) is to get motivated to paint a new entry each and every week so we finally got those lead heaps down (not that 50 odd models would show lol but it`s the idea that counts) and get rabble done for our upcomming PULP and VSF `debuts` ;)
Wherever we end up is a sidenote, the thing has proven to be heaps of fun so far and we seem to be going to be able to enter 10 `freshies` each for the whole League
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I understand the desire to see 'fresh meat' every monday morning and sometimes it can be a tad disappointing to see repeat entries BUT I think the Prof's current system works very well as it is. The only improvement I can think of (for the future) would be extra bonuses at the end of rounds 5 and 10 for those who have submitted say 4 out of 5 as new work.
The LPL isn't a pure painting competition, it's a a mix of productivity, painting, presentation and photography but each LAFer's vote is their own and they are free to apply it however they like.
It's a demanding schedule to keep up and I suspect that an absolute requirement for new minis each week would deter some entrants, while the opportunity to resubmit means that we 'painting mortals' can replay something we are particualarly proud of but which was previously thrashed by the one of the Top Ten!
Just my tuppence. :)
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I don't think restricting entrants if they can't put a new entry up each week is a good thing, seems a bit unfair. I had all the rounds sorted and they are still on my painting shelf waiting to be done but comissions and normal work has gotten in the way so no new entries for a while (soon to be remedied :D ).
Extra bonus points for getting all new entries in is a good idea. To be honest I'm just enjoying the comp as a whole and I'm certainly not bothered about winning (not that I think I would), I'd like to get new stuff done for each round (the intention was there, and the figures ;D ), I'm not bothered if I don't but I wouldn't like to be not allowed to enter because of it :)
cheers
James
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Sorry to change the subject, but I have a quick question. The 10th round is VSF. Would the steampunk setting of War Machine be acceptable?
Thanks Alex.
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I entered just to keep me on schedule with my painted. My big snag is getting my pictures done and in though. If it wasn't for the "new" bonus, well that's the only thing keeping me off the bottom. Maybe if I improve my pictures taking that might help too.
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I'm becoming a bit concerned with some of the commentary being made on some of the threads. Some of it is just... overwhelmingly unsportsmanlike. I understand the need to kibbutz about a good group of photos, but frankly, I have noticed that, when negative commentary is made, this tends to schew the vote toward the other photo.
Perhaps a solution might be to open a separate discussion thread for the various photos, so that voters aren't swayed by the opinonated posts of some well meaning but, at times, over-enthusiastic commentators.
Just my two cents,
Doc
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I'm becoming a bit concerned with some of the commentary being made on some of the threads. Some of it is just... overwhelmingly unsportsmanlike. I understand the need to kibbutz about a good group of photos, but frankly, I have noticed that, when negative commentary is made, this tends to schew the vote toward the other photo.
Perhaps a solution might be to open a separate discussion thread for the various photos, so that voters aren't swayed by the opinonated posts of some well meaning but, at times, over-enthusiastic commentators.
Just my two cents,
Doc
Now, now... Surely you have some faith in the independent thought of people.
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I'm becoming a bit concerned with some of the commentary being made on some of the threads. Some of it is just... overwhelmingly unsportsmanlike. I understand the need to kibbutz about a good group of photos, but frankly, I have noticed that, when negative commentary is made, this tends to schew the vote toward the other photo.
Perhaps a solution might be to open a separate discussion thread for the various photos, so that voters aren't swayed by the opinonated posts of some well meaning but, at times, over-enthusiastic commentators.
Just my two cents,
Doc
Hmmm. We had quite a lot of this in LPL3, but I must admit I hadn't noticed it in LPL4 as much so far. I did have to ask a few people to desist from overtly leading the jury in one or two rounds of LPL3.
For what it's worth, I'd say constructive / objective / even handed comments on participating entries are fair enough - the pictures are there to be commented on in part.
But comments along the lines of 'I voted for X entry because it's clearly far superior to Y entry which I think is dreadful' are not really sportsmanlike, no. And to be honest, not all that useful either, since it's normally pretty apparent which entry is superior - there haven't been too many tight match-ups so far in this LPL. So why rub the loser's nose in it? It's just unnecessary.
So I'd say comment constructively by all means. But please try not to write stuff which - even inadvertently - attempts to tell others how to vote.
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Does this mean that, if I post saying how wonderful my painting is, more people will vote for me?
:-)
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I think most of the voters can make up their own mind as to whom their vote should go. The only thing that I think is happening sometimes in the league is that the established painters like Hammers or Captain Blood (nothing personal guys, your names are just the first to come to mind) get more votes because voters think they should win ... Do I make any sense ? ;D
But that is something nobody can fix ...
Rest assured that, if the league gets a 5th go, I will "compete" again ! It is too much fun to miss it ;)
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Does this mean that, if I post saying how wonderful my painting is, more people will vote for me?
:-)
Good thinking ! I'll try that next time too ... lol
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Curses! Once again my Eeevil Plan (tm) is undone!
(swirls cloak)
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When I see comments like,
"A is much better than B, there's no comparison" and,
"I would have voted for A, but if you notice Detail Y, it isn't worth voting for"
or "Oh, I guess you don't believe in shading"
I happen to think that those are rather unsportsmanlike comments. This is a friendly painting competition. It's hard enough when certain people vote based upon the professional quality of a photograph rather than the miniatures themselves (Yes, i would ban the 'collage type photo' if it were up to me, and even I've used it) but having little comments like that does tend to skew the voting process. I've watched some threads go neck and neck, until someone makes a comment about a negative aspect of a photo, and then watched votes pile up for its opponent. Just doesn't seem quite right.
The other issue with independent thought is that, and I'm not sure everyone is aware of this (my wife, also a member, noticed this the other day) you can actually see the results of a poll before you vote on it.
That said, I'm firmly opposed to censorship of any kind, so I don't wish to sound like some sort of goose-stepper. I just happen to think, for what it is worth, that this is a friendly enough forum that we can move comments away from the photos themselves to other sections, or at least have the courage to step up and say, "Now, now, that was out of line."
As for the bias associated with certain names, it would be easy enough to post these competitions as uncredited until a round is completed. In that way, folks would be swayed by the image, and not the name, associated therewith.
Again, just my two cents.
-Doc
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I must admit that I normally vote on the two entries before I go on to read what other people have said.
I don't know what the vote is before I vote? Is that to do with two members using the same computer?
As for who painted it, again I look at the pictures first, usually make up my mind with a first impression and vote. I don't think who painted it is important. But after I have voted I like to know who is doing what.
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I must admit that I normally vote on the two entries before I go on to read what other people have said.
I don't know what the vote is before I vote? Is that to do with two members using the same computer?
As for who painted it, again I look at the pictures first, usually make up my mind with a first impression and vote. I don't think who painted it is important. But after I have voted I like to know who is doing what.
Must admit I cant see the votes or dont think I can until I have voted..I may be wrong though
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I can only see the total votes (of that moment) after I voted, but if you look at the threads without logging in I believe you can see them ...
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I can only see the total votes (of that moment) after I voted, but if you look at the threads without logging in I believe you can see them ...
Yes, that's how it can be done. Wholely unintentional, granted.
-Doc
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If you click on 'view results' you can see the progress before you vote.
And I'm with Doc,it would seem some voters are swayed by,not the painting :o but by the make of the figures,I believe that painted GW figures have lost votes purely for being GW figures.......not really very fair.
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I'm sure my thoughts can be swayed by the comments of others, especially when those comments point out something I'd not noticed. In an effort to be unswayed, I always vote before looking at the comments. In all honesty, I think it would be better if the comments, like the votes, were hidden until one has already voted.
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I'm sure my thoughts can be swayed by the comments of others, especially when those comments point out something I'd not noticed. In an effort to be unswayed, I always vote before looking at the comments. In all honesty, I think it would be better if the comments, like the votes, were hidden until one has already voted.
I'm not able to hide the comments but the votes until one has already voted. I think we're going to try it next round.
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I'm sure my thoughts can be swayed by the comments of others, especially when those comments point out something I'd not noticed. In an effort to be unswayed, I always vote before looking at the comments.
Much the same for me as it's natural to take on board all available info (and this includes the name of the entrant and the scores) before making a decision.
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Guys - honestly, we have this same discussion pretty much every time: 'why isn't it anonymous?', 'why are collages allowed?', 'why is scenery allowed?', 'why is text allowed?', and so on. These things are all clearly set out in the rules, it's the way we do it here, and nobody is forced to take part.
The format is deliberately very open to encourage as wide a range of approaches and talents as possible. If you prefer a straight, unadorned picture of 5 painted miniatures against a white backdrop, fine. If you prefer to throw the kitchen sink at it in terms of scenery and presentation, that's also fine. It's your choice and everyone has the same opportunities.
I agree that people should be careful about not influencing the vote, intentionally or otherwise, when commenting on matches.
As far as participants with established names attracting more votes because people think they 'ought' to vote for them, well there's unavoidably an element of truth in that. I can assure you I've felt like I've been on the receiving end of this effect a few times when taking part in painting competitions. But do we think that really significantly changes the result? Personally, I don't.
I think the anonymous thing is a red herring, because the work of most of the painters here is pretty distinctive. For the most part, I can tell you who's picture is whose just by looking at the pictures, and I'm sure this goes for many of us.
And lastly, yes people often vote for the quality of the photograph or the subject matter as much as for the quality of the painting. That's true of all painting competitions, including this one. A brilliantly painted entry, poorly shot, poorly composed, poorly presented, or with an unpopular subject matter, is never likely to beat an averagely painted entry which gets all these other factors right.
Rather than turning this into a long argumentative thread, please may I ask that if you have specific suggestions for rules changes, then PM the Prof or myself? I promise they will be seriously considered before the next LPL. Thanks.
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Weeeeee, that's my round five in ;D
cheers
James
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Weeeeee, that's my round five in ;D
cheers
James
Ditto.
Man, who knew zombies would be so hard?! Ick, not my prefered subject matter at all. But now that they're done, they were actually quite fun to paint. Thanks LPL for forcing me out of my comfort zone :)
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My round five is in too.
I've been meaning to get some zombies painted up for a while and this was just the motivation. :)
As a bonus I got another dozen Zombies done that didn't fit the theme of my LPL mob. Taking part in the league this time is really helping me get stuff finished that I've had kicking around for an age. Only problem is I've going to be left with stacks of minis just because they're in groups of less than five. :)
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My round 5 is in as well :D
I had been running a week ahead but not any more with having to paint two teams for one entry :'(
Going to struggle for next week :?
Weeeeee, that's my round five in ;D
cheers
James
I could be cheeky here and say "is this not your round two entry" but I won't lol
Ditto.
Man, who knew zombies would be so hard?! Ick, not my prefered subject matter at all. But now that they're done, they were actually quite fun to paint. Thanks LPL for forcing me out of my comfort zone :)
I am the exact same never painted zombies before either.
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As far as participants with established names attracting more votes because people think they 'ought' to vote for them, well there's unavoidably an element of truth in that. I can assure you I've felt like I've been on the receiving end of this effect a few times when taking part in painting competitions. But do we think that really significantly changes the result? Personally, I don't.
Well I have to say that I felt the effect of this in the current round (round 4).
Not to say that Hammers' entry wasn't good, it was great and I find it really fantastic to be up against someone of that level!
Now on any other day I wouldn't have much of a chance to make a difference but seeing Hammers' round 4 entry I thought they were pretty evenly matched! (much to my own surprise)
And reading the comments people said so too but if you see the big difference in votes I was left kinda speechless on how this happened?!
But no harm done, it's all in good fun and the top guys in this league are really straight shooters and it's work like theirs that makes me wanna paint better so thanks to them and keep up the good work!
(just snatch less votes please! ;D)
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I managed to get my round 5 in though i never liked zombies, nor have models for it, so it was converting time to get it all done lol
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All my figures for round 5 are painted but I’m waiting for my "backdrop piece" to dry so I can take a picture and send ASAP to the Prof… :?
Looks like there’s not going to have any bonus point for me this round again… :'(
Am I the only one who won't have Zombies as his entry? lol
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Thanks to a busy family and work week it will take a small miracle to get round 5 mailed in on time .... I'm lighting the candles and saying a prayer, here goes nothing ! :?
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Just sent in my fifth entry. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the new entries on monday :) Now on with entry number six.
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Just send my round 5 entry's too... Ouf! ::)
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I'm getting there..... just need to finish the basing then onto photography.
Much like others I was a week or so ahead of myself but have lost time with this round, what with it's options for extra bonus points.
And much like others, previously I couldn't find the ooomph to paint zombies but the LPL has provided the encouragement.
I'm also somewhat in awe at my overall productivity.... with round 5 and the few other bits I'm painting alongside my entries, the YTD total is 35 plus a herd of goats. Never has so much been painted by so few......
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Am I the only one who won't have Zombies as his entry? lol
Nope ;) Can't stand the bloody things, on film or on the painting table ;D
I could be cheeky here and say "is this not your round two entry" but I won't lol
You can be as cheeky as you like :D (because it's true ;D )
cheers
James
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Haven't picked up a brush all week, but my entry 5 just needs to be shot....
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I got my round 5 entry in finally! Believe it or not... no orcs! Maybe round 6 for more orcs!
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Well I have to say that I felt the effect of this in the current round (round 4).
Not to say that Hammers' entry wasn't good, it was great and I find it really fantastic to be up against someone of that level!
Now on any other day I wouldn't have much of a chance to make a difference but seeing Hammers' round 4 entry I thought they were pretty evenly matched! (much to my own surprise)
And reading the comments people said so too but if you see the big difference in votes I was left kinda speechless on how this happened?!
But no harm done, it's all in good fun and the top guys in this league are really straight shooters and it's work like theirs that makes me wanna paint better so thanks to them and keep up the good work!
(just snatch less votes please! ;D)
There can be no anonymity in LPL for the more frequent posters. I am sure of it.
I also think you give fame ( or as I suppose in my case, notoriousness) way too much favorable weight. Painting skills aside, of which my own I am not always so confident, there are a host of motives which influence a voters choice. Scenery and choice of miniatures are, I am sure, of so much more importance, but envy and a wish to "side with the other guy" may also come into play.
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...seeing Hammers' round 4 entry I thought they were pretty evenly matched! (much to my own surprise)
And reading the comments people said so too but if you see the big difference in votes I was left kinda speechless on how this happened?!
Yes, well, voting doesn't split in direct proportion to the relative quality of the entries.
So you might think that entry A is fairly evenly matched with entry B - but entry B perhaps has a slight edge, therefore you expect voting to split 45%:55%.
But if you can see that entry B has even a slight edge, then most other people can see that too, therefore the vote splits 10%:90% (say).
In truth, the size of the gulf in 'quality' between two entries is neither here nor there. If one has even a slight edge, then that entry will usually win hands down. It's only where two entries are genuinely on a par that the vote tends to split 50:50 or so.
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Pffffff .... Made it, my entry for round 5 is mailed in time ! It is still in time isn't it ? :-X
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Pffffff .... Made it, my entry for round 5 is mailed in time ! It is still in time isn't it ? :-X
Usually Prof Witchheimer send you a conformation e-mail, didn't get any?!
Let's hope your entry got there in time otherwise it would be a shame! :'(
Maybe you can pm him just to make sure, that way you're clear on where you're at!
edit: I kinda peeked at the rules for a minute and if you sent it today around noon I think you're too late!
If I understand it correctly they are due 07.00 the sunday before that round opens so that would make it
sunday morning being today! Uh-oh! :?
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You can always plead for an exception. I don't thing the dead line is there primarily to let people have exactly the same amount of time to finish their entries but to let the Professor or Captain prep them within a Christian period of time.
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I just found the confirmation mail of prof. Witchheimer in my inbox, thx prof ;)
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huh. Apparently due to mathematics and time zone fail, I seem then to have missed the deadline.
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huh. Apparently due to mathematics and time zone fail, I seem then to have missed the deadline.
I'm here, on the emailbox, go and send it :)
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I wonder if the prof can get any sleep each Sunday nights… ;)
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Re-submitted my entry with the appropriate number of figures! Oooops!
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Round 5, Ladies and Gents. 38 replacements, hordes of zombies of all kinds.
A little change on the voting - The results of voting will be shown only after one has voted
Have fun... ;)
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My votes are in and not as many zombies as I was expecting (which is only a good thing ;D )
cheers
James
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My votes are in and not as many zombies as I was expecting (which is only a good thing ;D )
cheers
James
I am sorry but I succumbed to the temptation and painted some for the very first time. Couldn’t resist! :'(
The extra bonus points that is >:D
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... you might think that entry A is fairly evenly matched with entry B - but entry B perhaps has a slight edge, therefore you expect voting to split 45%:55%.
But if you can see that entry B has even a slight edge, then most other people can see that too, therefore the vote splits 10%:90% (say)...
I've noticed this too - this is the first season I've voted in every round of the League, so the way voting pans out has been interesting. Apart from those times when having voted you realise you're well in the minority and think 'no, everyone else is wrong', it is a bit odd how five minutes of pondering 2 very close entries will then kick up a result that's totally disproportionate - 90-10 or so; but as you say, no matter how much time it takes most people will probably come to the same conclusion most of the time.
It's a problem with the voting system of course. There's no way 'yes/no' can record relative weight of preference, because with only one vote to use, a preference of '55/45' looks exactly the same as '100/0'.
Maybe if we were given 3 votes (or some number greater than the number of entries anyway) and could vote 3/0 or 2/1, we'd end up with a 'fairer' spread. A good against bad match-up would still produce 90% or more of votes going one way; but a good against another good would produce a spread that more accurately reflected the opinions of the voters as to the relative merits of the submissions.
Don't know whether it's possible or desirable, but it might be away round landslide victories in circumstances where many people agree the difference is small.
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The themed contests really do produce some epic match-ups. I feared the zombie theme would be the weakest of LPL4 but, my, it has produced some quality entries.
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I must say I think that it is in the themed rounds I see people rise above themselves!
Just look at the many great entries now in round 5, many people said they didn't like this round but still produced quality teams! Either through painting or sheer creative thinking!
Great stuff and highly entertaining!!! :o
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The themed contests really do produce some epic match-ups. I feared the zombie theme would be the weakest of LPL4 but, my, it has produced some quality entries.
I agree, some very good painting and original entries ! Some of the entries show a very good sense of humor and others are really "disturbing" in a good way ;)
Think I'll take my teddybear to bed tonight, feel some zombie-ish nightmares comming ... lol
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I actually got my 6th and 7th rounds in last night :o (or using Gamer Mac's round system 3 and 4 lol ;D )
cheers
James
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I actually got my 6th and 7th rounds in last night :o (or using Gamer Mac's round system 3 and 4 lol ;D )
cheers
James
Now you are just showing off. :D
I still have to paint 4 figures for my 6th round, running out of time :'(
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Round 6 is in. Phew!
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Send mine in thursday, but still awaiting the confirmation mail :)
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Got my round six in!
Sadly no newly painted entry this week and to top it off I had no decent camera to take my pics so a bit of a dodgy team photo. :D
Let's hope for the best and we'll see on monday how it turns out!
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That my Rd 6 finished, at last, just got to send it in. It's been a real struggle this week. This is the closest I have been to the dead line yet.
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;D Got two more to do for round 8 (5 really ;) )
cheers
James
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And entry 6 is sent! Painted 38 miniatures so far, it's great to be participating and getting stuff done every week! Now unto the next entry 8)
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Can someone tell me which local hour is the equivalent of the "07.00 GMT on the Sunday" deadline? I live in Québec, Canada and I’m not sure I calculated this right… :?
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prof- have you had mine- i haven't had a confirmation e-mail yet?
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Can someone tell me which local hour is the equivalent of the "07.00 GMT on the Sunday" deadline? I live in Québec, Canada and I’m not sure I calculated this right… :?
Are you in western Quebec (i.e. not the part that is in the Canadian Atlantic Time Zone)?
You've already got this year's Summer time, if I'm not mistaken. I'm struggling a bit at the moment to handle the change for that as well, but normally, Canada EST is five hours behind GMT/UTC-0. CURRENTLY, because we only change to summer time tonight, you are only four hours behind, but starting tomorrow morning, it will be 5 hours again.
So, to arrive in time, the image has to arrive prior to 2am Canada EST, STARTING TOMORROW. If you want to be on the safe side, make sure to send it in on the Saturday prior to 23.59/11.59pm
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Can someone tell me which local hour is the equivalent of the "07.00 GMT on the Sunday" deadline? I live in Québec, Canada and I’m not sure I calculated this right… :?
World Time Map for 0700 UTC/Zulu/GMT (7 AM Greenwich) (http://www.worldtimezone.com/time/interactive-time-map.php?select=0&calldate=03-27-2010&hournr=7&forma=)
Looks like 0700GMT is 0300 Eastern Daylight Time.
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@ Westfalia Chris & Wirelizard, thanks to both of you for your answers... I should be able to finish my entry and send it before the deadline then... ;D
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prof- have you had mine- i haven't had a confirmation e-mail yet?
i sent another one just to be sure.
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prof- have you had mine- i haven't had a confirmation e-mail yet?
lads, got all your entries, today just too busy to reply, sorry
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Just send mine... ouf!
...where’s the relieved icon? lol
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Know what you mean,mine went out yesterday.
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Round 6 is in
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Entry 6 is mailed ! :D
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Sent my round 6, have not received confirmation.
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just confirmed all received entries.
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My round 6 is in, but I'm now out of painted figures! Looks like I'm going to have to have a bit of a rummage , and quickly...
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So is this 07.00 more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules? :?
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So is this 07.00 more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules? :?
Whatever you'd call it, rule or guideline, I would like to get all the entries till sunday 7.00. Yes, I'm taking "after 7.00" entries too, because it's a friendly contest and not a world cup, but please don't get used to it.
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Real life responsibilities have once again come up! Oh well, bummed I missed the submission this week, but only 2 figures to finish for next weeks entry, that's nice.
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Rounds 6 and 7 Sent in.
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Round 6 started with 34 replacements. Good luck!
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I just send my round 7 entry and a fall back picture for round 8 in case I can’t paint anything new during the Easter vacation… ::)
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I forgot to account for the long weekend and my girlfriend wanting to do stuff tomorrow so I'm painting like the wind. ;D
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I am afraid I am going to fall by the wayside this week. I have not managed to get on as well as I expected with my round 7 entry. I'm going away for the weekend, tomorrow morning, and won't be back until Monday night. So I will miss this round. :'(
Gives me more time for round 8 :D
And maybe another bit of 10 8)
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Gives me more time for round 8 :D
7 surely ;D ;)
cheers
James
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Ha Ha :?
Getting your own back eh lol
Which round are you on I can't work it out anymore o_o
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Neither can I lol I'm just going to keep sending the Prof photos until he tells me to stop lol ;)
cheers
James
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Arrgh! Just finished my entry for the coming round, then realised that I'm out of GW's Graveyard Earth and so can't base them! Damn! Damn! Might be able to get some over the weekend, but maybe not. I knew this would happen at some point...
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Round eight (or whichever you want) is in...
Two more to go :D
cheers
James
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Think it's round 7 Jim,mines in as well ;)
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Jim has sent in rounds 7 and 8 already :)
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Yeah, I missed out a few at the begining so certain people ( ;) ) are taking the mick :D
cheers
James
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I hope to send in my picture during the night, due to a very busy workschedule this week, I`m still needing to finish off and base one model of the band.
But I will make the deadline, even if it kills my sleep :'(
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Got my rounds 7-8 in.
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Round 7 in - only 3 more rounds to go!
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Sorry guys, no new entry from me this week :( Painting bumped into real life and real life won. Hope to finish a new entry next week.
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Managed it, just sent in my entry for r7 phew phew
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Round 7 is in. Now to finish rounds 8, 9 and 10... o_o :?
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Other than rivets and a guardrail and propeller, I've got my Aeronef made for round 10.
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Sorry guys, no new entry from me this week :( Painting bumped into real life and real life won. Hope to finish a new entry next week.
Same thing here ... :'(
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Slipping into pedant mode some (maybe all, as I haven't looked at everyone) of the comps in Round 6 have got a mismatch between the number of votes and the total shown. At the mo, adding together the votes for each competitor differs from that shown as the overall total by 2.
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I've got myself back ahead of the curve again, round 7 is in and Round 8 is almost finished. :)
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Round 7 is up..
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Just send in the entry for round 8 (which was supposed to make it for round 7 lol) and hopefully manage to finish round 9 already today. That way i have enough time for the VSF bonus round 10, where a LOT of work is still to be done.
I just pray my boss doesn`t send me to much abroad the comming two weeks...
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Between the stress of work, job hunting, and house buying painting stuff feels like a bit of a chore, which is pretty sad. If I don't post an entry does it default back to my last entry?
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If I don't post an entry does it default back to my last entry?
Yes.
Or you can default back to a previously entered team from one of the earlier rounds if you email the Prof to let him know which one.
Otherwise, your existing entry progresses into the next round.
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Cheers Captain :)
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I haven’t touch a brush this week… :'(
I guess that my round 8 entry will be the "fall back" pictures I’ve send to the Prof. with my round 7 entry’s
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Just hit the send button on my entry for round 8.
Need to undercoat round 9 and then finish the making of round 10 (which will have a VSF theme.......) ;)
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... and then finish the making of round 10 (which will have a VSF theme.......) ;)
Hmm. VSFF&IW - should be interesting ::) ;) lol
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Well, round 8 is sent. Can't wait untill monday to see all the new entries! :)
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Hmm. VSFF&IW - should be interesting ::) ;) lol
All will be revealed! ;)
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Shoot. Just as I rig the photo booth I see the dullcoat of my minis dry cloudy on me.
(Written in affect in the hope it'll give me the energy to amend the problem and still have them entered for LPLS4R8. !) >:(
EDIT: Just tweaked the post a tad for, um, 'content'.
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Tut tut bad Language Hammers :o
I am sure your entry will still be stunning
Well at the last minute I have actually manage to send in my entry for round 8. Been a good day I also managed to put together some of the stuff for round 10 as well. :D
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Prof did you get my entry all right?
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Prof did you get my entry all right?
yes, confirmation emails sent.
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cheers Thanks
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Round 8, 34 replacements. Good Luck :)
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Certainly some tough match ups this round.
cheers
James
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One thing that I don’t understand about the LPL is why people don’t vote for all the entries…
If you look at the total number of vote there’s sometime a difference of 20 or more votes between the "most popular" match vs. the "less popular ones"…. :?
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Sometimes I can't decide which one I like best. Sometimes I don't like either of them.
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One thing that I don’t understand about the LPL is why people don’t vote for all the entries…
If you look at the total number of vote there’s sometime a difference of 20 or more votes between the "most popular" match vs. the "less popular ones"…. :?
You don't? I thought that was obvious. I always look at all entries but I don't vote at all when neither appeals to me.
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I always vote on all of them. Can't see the point otherwise.
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Well each to his own. But I'm not going to give my vote to something I don't like just because the other option is worse.
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Each to their own of course. Personally I take the view that it's primarily a fun game with the competing players in any round being the luck of the draw, so I always vote for the one I like the most or dislike the least, as recognition for making the effort to take part.
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I always vote on all of them. Can't see the point otherwise.
Each to their own of course. Personally I take the view that it's primarily a fun game with the competing players in any round being the luck of the draw, so I always vote for the one I like the most or dislike the least, as recognition for making the effort to take part.
That’s also what I think… Even more, I find it to be a form of respect to vote when people have taken the time to enter in the competition.
If people end up voting only for the best painted match why don’t make it a competition with eliminating rounds like the one on Steve Dean’s forum?
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That’s also what I think… Even more, I find it to be a form of respect to vote when people have taken the time to enter in the competition.
If people end up voting only for the best painted match why don’t make it a competition with eliminating rounds like the one on Steve Dean’s forum?
Just have some fun with the LPL, Calimero, it is not life and death. :)
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Even more, I find it to be a form of respect to vote when people have taken the time to enter in the competition.
The way it is now, the more popular entries get more points. That's how it should be. You want me to arbitrarily pick from two I don't like and not only does it artificially skew the results table (more votes = more points), it's also a bit rough on the one I don't pick. Why should he lose out to something I wouldn't otherwise have voted for? I'm sorry but your reasoning makes no sense to me.
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Methinks we might be taking the matter far too seriously. Next we'll be arguing the merits of composition versus painting quality versus photography and the fact that your British have 1860 equipment while the red dye never faded to that shade of pink until 1892.
I exaggerate, but there you go.
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Next we'll be arguing the merits of composition versus painting quality versus photography...
That's not an exaggeration. That one has been done to death already. What gets my hackles up is that these kind of discussions (in all their tedious variations - there's some fresh 'unfairness' to whine about every week it seems) always seem to boil down to the same thing: Someone else telling me how I ought to be spending my vote. I do not presume to tell anyone else how to vote, and would appreciate being extended the same courtesy.
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And... Relax ;)
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That's not an exaggeration.
Happens every season.
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Relax, enjoy the nice sunny weather (at least here in the northern part of the Netherlands it's fine spring weather) and enjoy all the entries :)
Voting is very personal if you ask me and that's how it should be. Everybody has their own set of criteria and an order in these, a new entry might be important (for me it certainly is), each of us has their own taste in manufacturers, periods, historical/non-historical, surroundings, painting style, scale... and in my opinion that's what keeps a forum like this interesting 8)
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Voting is very personal if you ask me and that's how it should be.
Agreed. Now that's enough on the matter, lads. Thank you.
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Sorry if I shocked someone with my comments... I understand your point of view now. The right to vote includes the right not to vote ... got it 8)
Sorry again...
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Sorry if I lost my rag a bit there, Calimero.
Who knew I was so passionate about democracy, eh? Surprised myself there. :)
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No prob… sometime I find it hard to think in French then write in English… and all that on a German forum lol
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Right ... With all the "reallife" troubles sorted (more or less) it is time to get painting again ! Those pigs have had way to much time in the spotlight :D
I'm hoping to get something painted in time for round 9, maybe I'll still make it to the top 5 then lol
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Well what a sod! I was hoping to get round nine finished but a pot of thinners has just put paid to that :( (stupid bloody loud phone, stupid bloody stupid place to put the thinners and stupid bloody hands full of thumbs that dropped it)
It was originally going to be my round one entry and I was going to call it "Conan the 'better late than never' Barbarian"
Well, I'll get the rest done soonish and post them up :(
cheers
James
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You have been brought up with better manners than me. My recent disaster brought forth stronger words, which I had to edit because the webserver started to smell like ozon.
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Oh believe me, the air was blue!
For quite a while!
cheers
James
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You have been brought up with better manners than me. My recent disaster brought forth stronger words, which I had to edit because the webserver started to smell like ozon.
Wow, that was after you edited it?
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If I were clever lol,for the last round, the VSF round. I would build a model time machine and use all my previous entrys,photograph them altogether caught in Doctor Sinister's time trap (a large very clean fish bowl). Sort of LAF through the ages.However I'm not clever and I'm doing something else.................. ???
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Well, round 9 has been sent to the Prof. Now unto the next round :)
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Well thats my round 9 entry away.
Gives me an extra day for round 10. Which I really need :'(
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9th round,huzzah!
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Round 9 now in...... just some weirdly fantastical stuff involving brass and rivets to sort out now...... lol
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round 9 in- but the pressure is on for round 10- got big plans- if I have time! >:(
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Round 9. 26 replacements this time.
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The number of replacements is going down… maybe I should stop painting the "odds figures" myself and concentrate on my round 10 entry... ;D
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I'm afraid that my painted pigs will have to do for this year :'(
Next edition however ... :D
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I'm disappointed that I failed to get an entry in for the second week in a row. If I don't get my VSF entry in I'm going to feel even worse.
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I am not complaining, because I knew this entering the competition, but it is hard work getting a new entry in each week. Plus it distracts from other projects.
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Is it me or are there more entries repeating week after week this year? A little disappointing, really.
Still, it damn near wore me out making sure I got ten different ones in last time (and some of them I wasn't happy with because I had to rush them). So I understand how difficult a task it is, unless one can take ten weeks off work and have the servants handle all the day-to-day running of one's affairs for that time.
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Thanks to the ash cloud over Europe I was stuck in Amsterdam last week, so no new entry from me in this round. Damn, I just needed to finish some shields >:(
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Is it me or are there more entries repeating week after week this year? A little disappointing, really.
Still, it damn near wore me out making sure I got ten different ones in last time (and some of them I wasn't happy with because I had to rush them). So I understand how difficult a task it is, unless one can take ten weeks off work and have the servants handle all the day-to-day running of one's affairs for that time.
Several of the old hands did not take part which is a pity. Speaking for myself I'd prefer five rounds in a season.
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I had really good intentions of getting in ten, but then work ate my brain.
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I had really good intentions of getting in ten, but then work ate my brain.
I actually managed to do 10 unseen entries this time - Round 10 is almost finished, or should I say, the five figures are done - I'll do a sixth piece of eye candy, unless life kicks me in the groin. I caught my semiannual "change of season" cold, but its very docile until now, and I hope to weather it sufficiently until Salute.
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This is my first LPL and I've been fortunate enough to be able to put up a new team every round and tho it's been a slog (setting the alarm clock for the early hours to apply the matte coat was a low point) it's been most beneficial. By the time Round 10 is in I will have painted 68 minis (human and animal) and 1 small vehicle, all in approx 70 days as I started in the week before the first deadline. 1 mini a day doesn't sound much but I wouldn't have been able to do it without the discipline of the comp. Also, as well as making progress with my F&IW project, it has helped me to improve the quality of my painting as I have taken on board comments and studied the work of competitors. :)
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It has been a real slog this year. Away for four days in the middle didn't help, that's why I missed a round.
At the end of it I will have painted the final units (at the moment) of my British army and a big chunk of my Chinese army. Its been a great boost for getting my VSF gaming off the ground. As shown by the couple of recent games I have managed during the time as well. Again this year has forced me to reduce my lead pile. Aways a good thing because it lets you buy more guilt free. :D
Already got a couple of things due in the mail :D
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I managed to get 9 out of 10, just my League was a previously published one to get a feel of how they would do. First year I entered, and I must say it was a blessing for me as a lot of sideprojects like the Heru archers of this week actually got done...
Next year, i`ll be back (with better ideas on how to take pictures et all)
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Is it me or are there more entries repeating week after week this year? A little disappointing, really.
Agreed, esp. as the contest was started as an exercise in getting your minis painted, rather than a talent show. Now I do love some of the excellence we've seen, but I think that new entries for every contestant, at least every other round, should be a must.
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I've managed a new entry for every round so far.
While I have some models I can enter for round ten, I have something VSFy I hope to get finished in time. So things are looking good for ten new entries and most, hopefully all of the bonus rounds. :)
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Ummm... When is the last possible moment that we can submit for round 10 again...? It's going to be right down to the wire for me ::)
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Just primed my VSF entry. Hooray!
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Well I managed to paint something new each round. I forgot to attatch the picture for round 9 when I sent it though. Just have to finish the bases on my Martians for round 10, then take pictures.
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Just primed my VSF entry. Hooray!
Just realised I primed my VSF entry with gloss black and it's swamped all the details. Hooray!
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Ummm... When is the last possible moment that we can submit for round 10 again...? It's going to be right down to the wire for me ::)
Me to,just finished an aeroneth,painted a 'thing' and still got three minis to finish.........
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I jts mailed my final entry to the Prof, was a bit tight with loosing out a saturday due to having to go to `some large fleamarket in london tomorrow ;D`
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Ummm... When is the last possible moment that we can submit for round 10 again...? It's going to be right down to the wire for me ::)
I need to know this as well.
I have one big thing ¾ finished :'(
One smaller thing ¾ finished :'(
And five guys and a horse half finished. :'(
Normally it would take me about two weeks to finish this amount so it is going to be a busy night and all of tomorrow. :'(
Hopefully managed to get it all finished by tomorrow night. (Where the knackered icon)
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I hear you,all painted out,70 minis painted in 10 weeks plus a few vehicles o_o
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Painting everything in real time has been hard. The past few weeks have been particularly so with the submitted items a bit more rushed than I would have liked.
As I am out tonight and at Salute all day tomorrow I've had even less time for the final round. Finished painting late last night and had an early start this morning to get the photos done before work. I just need to email the entry when I get home.
Sunday will definately be a day of rest this week. :)
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No new entry from me for round 10, I am afraid. All tapped out from tending to Can O'Beer, the Littlest Hammers and his brother. Since there've been several people helping me out with minis for this entry I feel obliged to complete it and will do so but at a later date.
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Same here, I'm gonna be up all night getting ready for tomrrow :-(
And Sunday is my day of rest (I'm not allowed to play with toys lol :? )
cheers
James
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Off to Salute tomorow, so I had to get my entry in today. My lead mountain is slightly deminished, and so I need to top it up at Salute! ;)
It has bene a long slog to get 10 entries in in 10 weeks, but I have really enjoyed the challange. the level of the compertion was really high, and I feel that in some aspects I have improved my painting (and perhaps even my camera skills). Thanks to the LAF team for all their hard work, and thanks to everyone who entered. I can't wait until next year. 8)
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Well my last entry is done & sent. Now to concentrate on what I am going to do at Enfilade the end of next month.
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Round ten is sent off and I've made it, ten new entries in ten weeks. :)
It's worn out my paintbrush, but it's been fun trying to paint to a schedule. I got myself a week or two ahead early on and ended up just getting things in on time towards the end.
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You lucky gits. All showing off now you have finished :'(
I managed to finish the small vehicle last night. :D
The big thing iis now about 95% finished :)
The five guys and the horse are still at the half finished stage :'(
Hopefully manage to finish it all today in between real life. But it will mean trying to get a photo in the dark tonight.
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So that's it then. Done. Dusted. Finito. End of.
Round 10 is in. Huzzah! ;D
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I know what you mean gamer Mac… not that I have very much left to do for my round 10 entry but I’ll need some serious kick in the a** to get to finish them… I just don’t feel like painting them lately and keep finding more "interesting" things to prep or paint in the lead pile… ;D
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My round 10 is submitted.
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Sent in my round 10 this afternoon, I didn't have all that much work left on it as I already started it in round 1! ;D
So that's all for my first Painters League and what a rush it has been!
Kinda started it in a blur-of-the-moment, totally unprepared, so I had some good times and some difficult times but enjoyed it all the way! lol
That leaves me to give a big thanks to the people responsible for the League, great job!
And congratulations to all who participated, now that I have entered myself I know what it means to get yourself committed for 10 weeks and at some times put everything aside to get those last minis painted!!!
I had a blast! Thanks! :D
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And round 10 is sent. After 10 rounds I have 63 newly painted miniatures, I missed 1 round, finished 2 projects and am very satisfied painter :)
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... Just sended my round 10 picture… I had a hard time trying to keep up the pace this season and I ended up painting a lot less figures than usual :?
Next season I will paint the figures but I'll hire a professional photographer! lol
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Hmm. Havent' received confirmation yet. It also occurs to me that I had marked it for season 3/round 10. It should be fairly obvious that's not what I meant.
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I finally got my round 10 entry in- Phew!
No vehicles, though... :'(
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I don't believe the time but that is my entry just away.
Now off to bed.
I won't know what to do with my self tomorrow no painting for the LPL will be strange.
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Last round in and it's a shocker...............
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Well done to all you chaps who got news rounds in, whether for each one or just a couple :D
cheers
James
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I don't believe the time but that is my entry just away.
Now off to bed.
I won't know what to do with my self tomorrow no painting for the LPL will be strange.
Oh yes. 10th entry sent in last night and confirmed today. I feel empty. Usually (as in "for the last 10 weeks") at this time I'd be assembling and basing some new stuff. Now it's just a cup of coffee and the completed round 10 entry on my otherwise cleaned desk.
So, 10 entries, ~70 minis and things, done. My lead balance for this year is positive. I don't know if that has ever happened before. Plenty of Strange Aeons stuff finished and instantly tested on the gaming table. This last round was a bit evil as I got ill last weekend and the entry took quite a lot of work, but it turned up OK after all.
After the coffee, I'll visit the post office and pick up the paints I thought I'd need for this round. Actually, I didn't, and there was no time to get them until now because I was painting. Oh the irony. ;D
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My lead balance for this year is positive. I don't know if that has ever happened before.
Same here. It feels really great to have finished so much stuff.
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Ladies and Gentlemans..Round 10! 30 replacements.
Good luck to you all :)
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Before I go looking at Round 10 entries, I'd like to thank everyone for another excellent season!
Thanks for sharing some great ideas.
Special thanks to the Prof. Cheers.
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As always, I've very much enjoyed the LPL, although only as a spectator this time. Thank you, Prof, for doing it, and thanks to all the contestants for your CRAZY hard work. I would say that you make my Monday mornings enjoyable, but I always feel compelled to stay up late Sunday night to see the entries. :)
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It was a highly enjoyable event and I`ll certainly will be back next year.
I`m glad I could `warm up` (read: nag their ears of with whining) that I could convince two other Tin Soldiers of Antwerp blokes to also participate (Northstar and Andy0476) to battle our growing lead and plastic piles, and will try to get out number of players to at least 5 next year (not to overrun the competition, but to see more and more finished models appear on our tables).
Some of my conclusions:
* I did a lot better then expected (I aimed at 2 wins and 250 points total)
* Managed to enter something fresh (and 9 / 10 new) entries each weak, though sometimes it was touch and go
* Finally have a reason to upgrade my camera to more megapixels as the old bess has trouble focussing
* Collage, background and titel my entries next year (I misinterpretted the no work on pics rule, thought it was literally no touching of any kind)
* Put my droid avatar hidden in each entry next year
Great initiative and many congratulations to all those hard working painters out there, we might not (well, some that is) win Golden Demon, we painted more models in 10 weeks then those do over their whole career lol ... then again, they probably did sleep the past months.
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An amazing week on the LPL. I don’t think I have ever seen so many close matches. :o :o
Great work by everyone.
It has been a great competition again this year. Thanks for all the hard work running it.
Looking forward to next year already. I think I will need to do some planning for next year though, maybe even a bit of preparation before the competition actually starts, and hopefully it won’t be the struggle it has been this year.
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Before I go looking at Round 10 entries, I'd like to thank everyone for another excellent season!
Thanks for sharing some great ideas.
Special thanks to the Prof. Cheers.
Managing the LPL *and* participating myself, and at that level!, is definitely much more than I could handle. Bravo, Alex!
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Managing the LPL *and* participating myself, and at that level!, is definitely much more than I could handle. Bravo, Alex!
Absolutely agree with what he said! If there was an applause icon it would be appearing now. :D
Also, a well done to all who have participated - both for painting and for voting. :)
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Managing the LPL *and* participating myself, and at that level!, is definitely much more than I could handle. Bravo, Alex!
Quite!
I managed a few teams last time round when I was running the league, and it nearly killed me! I reckon setting up the matches, loading up the matches, dealing with all the correspondence, doing all the record keeping, posting results etc etc, is a good 8 - 10 hours work each week, for 10 weeks. Doing all that whilst getting an entry of your own ready every week is ball-breaking. Alex, you can't have slept much over the last few weeks!
But congratulations on running another fantastic show :)
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We really are finishing in a fine style... :) People really pulled out all the stops and we have some beautiful entries and excellent close match-ups for the final round. Congratulations to everyone who participated this year (both entering and voting) and a huge round of applause for the Prof!
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Despite the fact that I could not enter anything new for the last rounds I found the whole league very motivating to paint ! I learned a lot by looking at the other entries and reading the comments.
Next year I will be back and I'm hoping that you guys will see some improvement in my entries ;)
A big thank you to the Prof for all his hard work !
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I had loads of fun. It did wonders for my motivation and I think I'm a better painter now than when I started, although not by much! If I hadn't been going through such a busy, stressful time I'd have had a new entry in every week. Roll on next year!
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To call this whole affair inspiring would be a gross understatement. I've enjoyed the heck out of it, and am in awe at the sheer level of creativity and skill displayed by this community. I'm already thinking about the next one!
Jim