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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Hammers on May 11, 2007, 08:36:10 AM
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And I need something like this Graf Goetz
(http://www.traditionsverband.de/magazin/goetz/bild01.jpg)
You may want to consider this "dampferer" from kartonwerf.de. I got it about a year ago and blew her up frm 1:100 to 1:50 on a xerox. I haven't gotten to laying her out yet but I plan to glue the sheets to carton and add some better detailing than the supplied paper ones.
She, Gowerian, is later and probably has a larger tonnage than the Graf but I think she looks quite the business, pulp games, for the use in. She would certainly work as "The Venture" in a King Kong game.
(http://www.kartonwerft.de/modell_bilder/grobi.jpg)
http://www.kartonwerft.de/katalog.htm
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OMG!!!! :o :o
I want that ship!!
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I do like it, too!
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Well, lucky you you live in Germany then. It seems to be the promised land of paper models. Well, Poland to. I have a later freighter model from Maty Modelarz which I hope to use as "Karaboudjan"
(http://www.karaboudjan.net/Tintin.jpg)
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that lighthouse is great!
(http://www.kartonwerft.de/modell_bilder/pingel_ua.jpg)
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that lighthouse is great!
It is, isn't it. Shouldn't be impossible to enlarge either and seems fairly easy to build...
...and use with this fine fellow:
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/plp023.jpg)
What's "Auswandererdenkmal Bremerhaven" by the way?
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What's "Auswandererdenkmal Bremerhaven" by the way?
Auswanderer - emigrant
denkmal - memorial
Bremerhaven - a german city
that is it:
(http://www.bremerhaven-touristik.de/bremerhaven-historisch/Fotos/auswander_denkmal_300_200.jpg)
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opened a new topic
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Those ships, etc.: You'd have to get the 1:100 version and print it at about 200%, right? (To get about 1:50, I mean?)
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Correct. And glue the sheets to thicker carton.
I haven't completed the model so I cannot give you any more tips than that. But I can thell you this from browsing various boards that Gowerian is most likely one of the best paper model ships of a steamer arround, esp. if you want to something that looks like "Venture" in King Kong.
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This oneis for 28mm
http://www.tin-soldier.com/freighter.htm
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Reviresco tilts towards the toyish, IMO. But they have some very useful things for detailing yourship: guns, portholes etc.
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Those ships, etc.: You'd have to get the 1:100 version and print it at about 200%, right? (To get about 1:50, I mean?)
While preparing this model I realized that I made the mistake of a man of classical education while enlarging it. The sheets come A4 colour print format and enlarginmg them to A3 is NOT the same as enlarging them 200%.
10 years behind the Xerox and still a novice...
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I just emailed the people who do the Gowerian ship.
They are willing to enlarge their paper model to 1/60th scale at a total cost of EUR45 to EUR50.
I'm still thinking about it.
What do you guys think? Is it worth it?
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A bit stiff, in my opinion. What you get for those extra 25 Euro is, what?, the same thickness paper, color print and the right scale.
If you have the intention to build the model "as is" and not paint, weather and detail it it may be worth it but myself I will probably build it in sheet styrene so I just need the print outs as templates. The b/w enlargements on the office xeroxs are tehrefore quite the business.
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By the way, if you are considering a purchace, note that the "Gowerian" differs from the "Graf Goetz" in that it has a secon cargo hold between the aft cabins and the command bridge. It is not hard to customize however.
Also, Gowerian is a costal steamer and not really a open sea vessle.
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Here's a hastily thrown together pic of my WIP:
(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/members/hammershield/TheDampferer_laid_out.jpg)
The keel is stretched over at Kanwee, Flotum & Howe Shipwrights Ltd, Glasgow.
The paper model was, as previoulsy said, enlarged 200%, cut out and pasted with Pritt (easily aquired from your unsuspecting work place) to 1mm plain sheet styrene. The waterline bottom is 0.33mm to save me some remeasuring of the bulkhead pieces.
Parts were cut out and glued with polystyrene liquid and gel, depending. Plastic square rod was used for reinforcements where needed.
Let me remind you of an old truth among model builders, kids, that if you are using a jar of liquid cement remember to glue the bastards bottom to a wide sheet of card or the f¤#@er will unvariably at some point tip over and ruin several pieces of dearly bougt sheets of plastic. As it did in my case.
I forgot to put the usual miniature-of-reference in the picture but it currently measures aft to stern roughly 90cm.
Mor pics as the project strides, or hobbles, forward.
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just resized the pic :)
looks promising!
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The keel is stretched over at the Kanwee, Flotem & Howe Shipwrights, Glasgow.
ROFLMAO! Good one. :lol:
Looks impressive. I couldn´t be bothered to tackle the devious plasticard for anything this size. I´ll stick to my cardboard stuff. But I´m looking forward to more pics, too.
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You know, I am not sure it is any easier using cardboard in the end.
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After a some slugish performance from the dock workers the management at Kanwee, Flotum & Howe Shipbuilders has brought in some local muscle to roughen up the Unionists and hires replacements where "early retirement" has been necessary.
The result: some excellent progress! You can't beat the motivational power of a length of leadpipe!
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/dampferer_stage2.jpg)
Now in a short time the soon to be launched has been properly decked, plated and riveted. A represenative of the owner, a pilot Graf von Rosen, can be seen inspecting the sleek lines of naval beauty.
Some tools was carlessly left in the picture, a hammer and punch used for the riveting. The careless worker responsible was apprehended, thoroughly flogged and his weekly pay deducted.
A close up on proportions and the tools used:
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/dampferer_pilot_punch_and_hammer.jpg)
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Looks overwhelming to me :o
Can't wait to see the finished thing. I'd never have the patience to build such a model, but it's always interesting to watch those magnificent deeds of others.
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Looks overwhelming to me :o
So far it is much, much easier than you think. But I haven't come to the fiddly bits yet, like wheel, winches and , um.. those trumpet like air intakes (don't know the english word for it).
I planked and "chaulked" the bow and bridge decks yesterday which was quite enjoyable. I wished I had a better small digital or a macro for my EOS so I could take better closeups.
I am also thinkingabout cutting it in half so it will be easier to store.
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Progress report:
Here you see Col Marbles inspecting the bow deck planking and the bow cabinets. This piece became a good deal more fiddly than it had to because I had made some bad measurements and did think it through befióre glueing.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/dampferer_3_bow_deck.jpg)
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I switched over to making some of the a little more intricate bits:
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/fiddlybits.jpg)
From left to right they are:
stove pipe, midship air intake(Lüfter), bailing pump (Pumpe), machine telegraph (Maschinentelegraf), wheel (Steuerrad), compass, (Kompass), ventilators (Lüfter).