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Title: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 22, 2010, 02:31:24 PM
Looking for useful bits while passing through a toystore, I came upon these bags of plastic 54mm toy pirates, which held, among other (useless) things, a hideously underscale pirate ship. I immediately saw potential for the base of an airship, so I picked it up. The scale is really allover the place, but for once, that works.

Original:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat1.jpg)

After removing all the unwanted bits, and with a dwarf mini for scale (figure will be slightly lower once the tab is removed):
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat2.jpg)

Filling the existing and newly created gaps and adding a door over the irregularly shaped hole:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat3.jpg)

And the ship will need a name of course. This one reads "Nex Superne". Anyone care to guess what I was going for with that in English?
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat4.jpg)

You've already seen the captain here, though may not have realised it:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/g_cap.jpg)

With the hands in place (note, ships wheel will get a support added):
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/g_cap2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Calimero on February 22, 2010, 02:37:39 PM

Each time I’m looking at your conversion I found myself wondering "why he didn’t cast them so I could buy and paint a few of his figures"…  lol

Nice work! 8)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Mancha on February 22, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
You're getting disgustingly good with greenstuff.
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 22, 2010, 03:40:15 PM
Another inspiring WK project! I like airships and always wanted to build one. Unfortunately never did.
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 22, 2010, 03:46:57 PM
As far as support goes, I have acquired some clear plastic rod, but I'm concerned it may not be enough to hold the weight (after all, I do plan to put quite a few metal figures in the boat) and I'm not sure how to determine the best spot for it (the gravity point if you wish). So I was wondering, would two of them detract from the overall appearance of the model? I'm leaning towards yes, but what to do then? A solution would be to put a tree under it for extra support, but that'll never be really strong enough to make a difference I think and it will hide part of the model/line of sight for the crew. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Plynkes on February 22, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
When you say airship, do you mean that pirate ship will be the gondola that goes under a balloon?


If so, please do make it a round balloon - a Montgolfier/Baron Munchausen sort of thing. I'm sick of everything being Zeppelin-shaped (Edit: what I mean to say is, a round balloon looks more Fantasy/less VSF).

But good luck however it goes! :)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 22, 2010, 03:59:29 PM
When you say airship, do you mean that pirate ship will be the gondola that goes under a balloon?

I have considered various options (including magic powered and with regular sails), and yes,  it will be a balloon. Though it will be neither round nor zeppelinshaped. I had a hard time coming up with something suitable and it will be three smaller balloons, tied together with ropes. I hope that will still be suitably fantasy. You can see the basic structure here:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat6.jpg)

This will get covered in putty and such. The top half will be covered in a large sail, to which will be added the cables that attach it to the gondola (so the balloons will kinda be trapped under the sail). I still need to work out a few things, but that's the main idea.
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 22, 2010, 04:12:22 PM
Figurehead added. A Foundry cherub. Not very dwarflike at first sight, but very empire-like and these are imperial dwarfs.

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/wipboat5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Plynkes on February 22, 2010, 04:15:02 PM
Looking forward to seeing that come to fruition, and seeing how the business with the sail and all comes together.


(Let me just say I've nothing against Zeppelins - I love the things! Just didn't think that look was quite right for this.)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 22, 2010, 04:22:21 PM
As far as support goes, I have acquired some clear plastic rod, but I'm concerned it may not be enough to hold the weight (after all, I do plan to put quite a few metal figures in the boat) and I'm not sure how to determine the best spot for it (the gravity point if you wish). So I was wondering, would two of them detract from the overall appearance of the model? I'm leaning towards yes, but what to do then? A solution would be to put a tree under it for extra support, but that'll never be really strong enough to make a difference I think and it will hide part of the model/line of sight for the crew. Suggestions?

This tree solution seems to work..

(http://www.wargamesunlimited.net/noquarter/images/projects/skyship1/sailship1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on February 22, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
You really are pretty damned good sir!
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Red Orc on February 22, 2010, 05:08:24 PM
So that's what the Dwarf doctor/levitation artist/raver was for... nice!

Good find on the pirate ship too. I was admitting the other day that I first started lurking here because I was 'building' (ie not building) an airship... I may have to pick up some crappy out-of-scale pirates now!
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: rob_alderman on February 22, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
BRILLIANT.

I would love to build a couple of these.

Wonder if it would work for a more generic fantasy game such as armies of arcana.

I love the writing in greenstuff, great deal of skill there. I would have scibor'd that!  :)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: AKULA on February 22, 2010, 07:06:57 PM
Nice work Seb.

 :)
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: anevilgiraffe on February 23, 2010, 09:29:54 PM
looks great... a similar supporting rod issue stalled my dwarf air longboat...
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 23, 2010, 09:31:57 PM
easiest would be placing a rod on both ends. but perhaps not so much aesthetically pleasing.
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: Geudens on February 23, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
I have considered various options (including magic powered and with regular sails), and yes,  it will be a balloon. Though it will be neither round nor zeppelinshaped. I had a hard time coming up with something suitable and it will be three smaller balloons, tied together with ropes. I hope that will still be suitably fantasy. You can see the basic structure here:

This will get covered in putty and such. The top half will be covered in a large sail, to which will be added the cables that attach it to the gondola (so the balloons will kinda be trapped under the sail). I still need to work out a few things, but that's the main idea.

Something like this...   

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=16216.0

Rudi
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: white knight on February 24, 2010, 07:48:29 AM
Ooh, that's nice. Not quite the same thing I had in mind, but good inspiration.
Title: Re: Dwarf Airship under construction
Post by: YPU on February 24, 2010, 08:54:53 AM
You know what, I am pretty sure I owned that atrocity of a ship as a kid. Cant find it anymore tough, darn it.

Then again my attempts at it would probably be dwarfed besides yours, so it spares me the shame.