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Title: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 02, 2010, 02:50:42 PM
Let me know if I've mistaken in entering bonus points or whatever.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_01.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Dolmot on March 02, 2010, 03:51:49 PM
There's something odd in the vote points. Rules say that you should receive floor(votes/10), vote points column shows round(votes/10), and the total appears to come from either one quite randomly...
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 02, 2010, 03:56:15 PM
There's something odd in the vote points. Rules say that you should receive floor(votes/10), vote points column shows round(votes/10), and the total appears to come from either one quite randomly...

"In addition, participants receive "bonus points" depending on the number of votes cast. For this, the number of votes received by the participant is divided by 10, the result being the number of "bonus points" the participant receives, ranging from 0 (9 votes or less) to a maximum of 15 (150 votes or more). "

you've got 56 votes, so 56/10=5,6 -> 6 points (rounded off)

chambersofminiatures got 215 votes, so 215/10=21,5 but due to "maximum of 15" limit, only 15 points
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: bc99 on March 02, 2010, 05:10:46 PM
Yay, something for the bottom rung?
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Calimero on March 02, 2010, 05:33:24 PM

At least I’m not the last one… ;)

lol
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Tomsche on March 02, 2010, 05:59:12 PM
Could it be by accident that the bonus points where forgotten for my poor little celtish fella`s?
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 02, 2010, 06:15:11 PM
Could it be by accident that the bonus points where forgotten for my poor little celtish fella`s?

yes, just forgotten, will update that.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Tomsche on March 02, 2010, 06:20:25 PM
No problem, I`m off now to comfort those little guys and put my feet in tub of hot water.  They are really mean once they crawl in your socks to extract vengeance  lol
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Deathwing on March 02, 2010, 09:54:11 PM
I'm third for last.  I'm in it to be in it.  :)

Joey
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 03, 2010, 01:12:56 PM
I'm in it to be in it.

The whole point really, IMO.  To be able to pound out the mini's in the LPL marathon makes every participant a winner.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Calimero on March 03, 2010, 01:55:01 PM

You’re right Ray, the LPL has a great "motivation factor". I’m in the LPL mainly because it’s fun! I REALLY like painting figures. Also, It’s a great opportunity to show our work… and maybe make some money as well since I sell almost all the figures I paint during the competition lol
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 03, 2010, 07:36:58 PM
and maybe make some money as well since I sell almost all the figures I paint during the competition lol

Hadn't noticed...  ::)

 :)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Hammers on March 03, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
and maybe make some money as well since I sell almost all the figures I paint during the competition lol

Good idea. If anyone is in the market for some harpies and a Conan, shoot me a PM. Can't see that I will ever find use for them.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on March 04, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
I'm impressed with my early showing against 2 time defending champion the almighty Grimm!  :D  I figured that I would be much further down the board. At least with me having that out of the way in Week 1, I know I won't have to face him again...whew  ::)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Dolmot on March 05, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
"In addition, participants receive "bonus points" depending on the number of votes cast. For this, the number of votes received by the participant is divided by 10, the result being the number of "bonus points" the participant receives, ranging from 0 (9 votes or less) to a maximum of 15 (150 votes or more). "

you've got 56 votes, so 56/10=5,6 -> 6 points (rounded off)

chambersofminiatures got 215 votes, so 215/10=21,5 but due to "maximum of 15" limit, only 15 points
To elaborate...

1) If it's "round to nearest", the examples in the rules are wrong. Only 4 or less would round to zero, while 145 would already give 15.

2) Which points add up to my total of 25, or those 11s at the bottom, for example? We should have 10 "loser" points, possibly 10 theme bonus, and then vote points, right? Currently many have 19 + vote points, which shouldn't be possible.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 05, 2010, 09:33:26 PM
To elaborate...

1) If it's "round to nearest", the examples in the rules are wrong. Only 4 or less would round to zero, while 145 would already give 15.

2) Which points add up to my total of 25, or those 11s at the bottom, for example? We should have 10 "loser" points, possibly 10 theme bonus, and then vote points, right? Currently many have 19 + vote points, which shouldn't be possible.

damn, I see...looks like I have an accounting error in the spreadsheet (column Total ) Deathwing and Calimero should get 12 points and your total should be 26. Sorry, it's a new spreadsheet, I've missed that. Will fix it till next week and post a corrected leaderboard. Thank you for pointing out that.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Calimero on March 05, 2010, 09:38:25 PM

Well one thing is sure, I’m never going to understand math…  lol
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 08, 2010, 03:52:36 PM
New leaderboard. I've fixed some errors in the first one, too. Let me know if anything was missed.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_08.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 16, 2010, 10:20:23 AM
a new week, a new spreadsheet :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_15.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: gamer Mac on March 16, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
Hey I am the highest loser again :'(
and it looks like I may be there again next week :o getting beat again :'(
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Tomsche on March 16, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
Could it be I'm missing 2 score points; I believe I had 44 votes in round 3?
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 16, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
Could it be I'm missing 2 score points; I believe I had 44 votes in round 3?

corrected.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Lowtardog on March 21, 2010, 11:35:16 PM
Only 100 to get to get me in the top 10  ;D
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: pierrebi on March 23, 2010, 12:28:22 PM
I am the last one  ;)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WYmedWkXk0I/R9Cj2V92ckI/AAAAAAAACSo/S4Q92-b9r4Y/s400/rus+spoon+front.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Red Orc on March 23, 2010, 12:52:47 PM
Only of the people who entered! You're way ahead of those of who didn't even get that far!

That's a very nice wooden spoon, by the way.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: CPT Shanks on March 24, 2010, 04:59:55 AM
There is a problem in the loser bracket, it isn't culminating the voting points week to week. The winners are sporting 45 points for cumulative totals over three weeks while the losers are only getting that weeks vote points added to their total score.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 24, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
next one.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_22.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Hammers on March 24, 2010, 10:08:02 AM
I'm slipping. This can only mean that people hate me.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Temudjin00 on March 24, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
If I understand the scoring, I think that for this last round (#4) I should have received 44 points for the win and the votes (148), instead of 10.  :) Then again, running with Hammers insight, it could just mean that the important people hate me--those with power over the leader board. ;)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Plynkes on March 24, 2010, 05:20:50 PM
This can only mean that people hate me.

You are truly a man of great insight and perspicacity, Hammers.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Dolmot on March 24, 2010, 07:15:55 PM
Folks, before you point out problems in scoring, please check that you've got the columns right. I think they go like this:

Pos, Member, Win, Draw, Lost: Obvious, right?
Votes+, Votes-: Sum of your votes for/against from all rounds. Basically just for the curious. Not very useful.
Diff.: Difference between the two. Not very useful either. Your vote points are calculated separately for each round. Due to rounding and 15p max per round, your total vote points are not necessarily Diff/10.
Vote Points: Total vote points received this far. As mentioned, these totals come from per-round vote points, which cannot be found in these updated tables. You have to check the match topics to find out individual round vote points.
Bonus: Total bonus points you've received from theme and new entries this far. Currently the maximum is 45, if you painted mounted barbarians on round 1 (15p theme, no 'new entry' bonus for this round), and a new team on rounds 2, 3 and 4 (10p each).
Total: Win*30 + Draw*20 + Lost*10 + Vote Points + Bonus.

Temudjin: You had 114 total points after round 3, and 159 after round 4. That's 45 points - 30 for win and 15 (148/10 rounded to nearest) for votes. 10 is your total bonus points this far, because you've submitted one new team (squigs) after round 1.

Phew. Everything clear?  :)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Temudjin00 on March 24, 2010, 08:40:09 PM
Folks, before you point out problems in scoring, please check that you've got the columns right. I think they go like this:
<snip>

Temudjin: You had 114 total points after round 3, and 159 after round 4. That's 45 points - 30 for win and 15 (148/10 rounded to nearest) for votes. 10 is your total bonus points this far, because you've submitted one new team (squigs) after round 1.

Phew. Everything clear?  :)

Ah, yes, sorry.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Heldrak on March 24, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Diff.: Difference between the two. Not very useful either.

Thank you for the clarification, Dolmot. Very useful.

I have to disagree with declaring the points differential not useful however, as this is apparently what is used to determine board position between those with identical points totals. I've been able to handicap roughly what my upcoming board positions will be from round to round by looking at the voting differentials between those above and below me on the board and comparing them with my own differentials each round.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: bc99 on March 25, 2010, 04:55:30 AM
Heh, I am sooo last place! Oh well, no where but up to go!
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: CPT Shanks on March 25, 2010, 06:39:30 AM
 :o Aha! Well pardon my inablity to interpret charts. Thats why I sticks to the easy games, I'm an idiot. LOL. I'll shut up and paint now.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: answer_is_42 on March 25, 2010, 08:49:11 AM
I'm slipping. This can only mean that people hate me.
Yeah, it must be really tough for you all the way down there at 6th...
Jerk  ::)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Hammers on March 25, 2010, 09:31:31 AM
Yeah, it must be really tough for you all the way down there at 6th...
Jerk  ::)

See! There it is! Blatant, unveiled hatred!
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Calimero on March 25, 2010, 12:32:22 PM
I am the last one  ;)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WYmedWkXk0I/R9Cj2V92ckI/AAAAAAAACSo/S4Q92-b9r4Y/s400/rus+spoon+front.jpg)

Only of the people who entered! You're way ahead of those of who didn't even get that far!

That's a very nice wooden spoon, by the way.

That's right... you're 46th out of 1665 members, that's not that bad ;)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Silent Invader on March 25, 2010, 01:02:31 PM
And that's without including those who lurk without signing up.  Be proud!  ;)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: pierrebi on March 25, 2010, 04:14:54 PM
That's right... you're 46th out of 1665 members, that's not that bad ;)

do you mean I am not running for the wooden spoon?  :P
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Moriarty on March 25, 2010, 09:54:52 PM
No - that would be the cat...sorry, couldn't resist. shutting up now.
:-)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 31, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
I have to disagree with declaring the points differential not useful however, as this is apparently what is used to determine board position between those with identical points totals.

exactly , for example see the first four postions in the new leaderboard:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_29.jpg)
 
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Captain Blood on March 31, 2010, 05:56:33 PM
Heldrak leads!
Well done Michael  :)
It's going to be a close finish methinks...
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Tomsche on March 31, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Could it be that I`m missing 20 points?  My `bonus` went from 40 to 50 (new entry) but not the 20 for it being zombies and opponents?
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Northstar on March 31, 2010, 06:07:48 PM
I think the bonus points for zombies aren't included yet as the total with most is about 50/55.

If I'm not mistaken then max bonuspoints (with Barbarian cavalry) is 75 now.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Silent Invader on March 31, 2010, 06:11:23 PM
I fear I am in the same position as Tomsche.

I ended Round 4 with 129 points.

In Round 5 I believe I should have scored

10 = new entry
10 = zombies
10 = survivors
10  =  loser
  6 = 59 votes

46 = total

making a Round 5 score of 175 versus the 155 shown (ie, 20 short)

Sorry to be a pain!  ;)

EDIT:  Good spot, Northstar  :)

Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 31, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
sorry guys, forgot to enter the theme bonus, will do and post the updated version :)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 31, 2010, 06:39:14 PM
it's done, check the new one, maybe you have to reload this site in your browser to see the new version of the leaderboard image.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: gamer Mac on March 31, 2010, 06:47:49 PM
Yep I can see it
Thanks Prof :D
WOW I actually went up instead of down this round :o
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Froggy the Great on March 31, 2010, 07:01:25 PM
Wow, I only dropped to 12.
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Heldrak on March 31, 2010, 08:44:31 PM
Heldrak leads!
Well done Michael  :)
It's going to be a close finish methinks...

How did that happen..?! I thought I was going to wind up #2 behind the good Captain this last update... Oh, well- Nice while it lasts... ::)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Muskie on April 05, 2010, 06:39:00 AM
exactly , for example see the first four postions in the new leaderboard:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_03_29.jpg)
 

So much for leading from wire to wire...
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 06, 2010, 08:41:23 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_04_05.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: answer_is_42 on April 06, 2010, 11:05:48 PM
At this rate I'll be at the top by about round 30!
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 12, 2010, 02:26:59 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_04_12.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Lowtardog on April 12, 2010, 02:36:14 PM
Apologies for no new entries form me, work and homelife are a bit hectic at the moment only chance I have is a butchers at the forum whilst at work (and whilst no one is looking)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 22, 2010, 11:28:07 PM
Hey Prof!

We going to see the leaderboard soon?

Down to the wire now...  ;D
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 02, 2010, 12:39:04 PM
The leaderboard after the round 9. Sorry the delay but it's still before the end of round 10  :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s04/lb/LPL_S4_Leaderboard_10_04_26.jpg)
Title: Re: LPL - SEASON 4 LEADERBOARD
Post by: answer_is_42 on May 03, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
Will I be able to make it to number 42?  lol