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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: dodge on June 24, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
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So I've had a good week 8)
Painted 4 Cavalry 8)
Used army painter dark and strong tone to good effect 8)
Varnished them with Army painter anti shine and... it went a bit foggy :-[
so was wondering is there anything I can do to rectify or is it all alost cause :'(
if you can help me I would be very grateful
I did spray it earlier this evening outside didn't feel cold or damp so a bit at aloss
cheers
dodge
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Can you post pictures? I'm not sure I can help but maybe It would help to understand the problem :?
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Can you post pictures? I'm not sure I can help but maybe It would help to understand the problem :?
Ok I will do that and post tomorrow if I can't now
cheers
dodge
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if the figures are painted with acrylics You should be able to wash off the varnish with enamel thinner
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A couple of pics
The champion has been AP Anti shined but I did not use the dip on him and he did not fog
Don't know if you will be able to see the difference
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/Dodge_2009/SDC11095.jpg)
Just previewed them and you can sort of see what I mean, not terrible but annoying
dodge
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Any help ?
Please anyone....
cheers
dodge
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You can try to revarnish them using enamel gloss varnish. Humbrol is good. Thin it with white spirit a bit and rub it on carefully with a brush. Just a thin coat.
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Hey Dodge,
Check this great tutorial by Doctor Faust:
http://old.privateerpressforums.com/index.php?showtopic=49296&hl=
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You can try to revarnish them using enamel gloss varnish. Humbrol is good. Thin it with white spirit a bit and rub it on carefully with a brush. Just a thin coat.
Thank you Tom, would I then do the same with their matt Varnish?
Hey Dodge,
Check this great tutorial by Doctor Faust:
http://old.privateerpressforums.com/index.php?showtopic=49296&hl=
Thanks I will look at that now 8)
The more I think about it the more I feel it was me and not the product either poor choice of location and atmospherics or me just liberally spraying too much.
thank you both very much
dodge
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That method probably can't be used on plastic though unfortunately.
Can't help with fixing the problem, however might be able to help avoid it in future. The dip by army painter holds a great deal of moisture and needs a minimum of 24 hours to dry. It feels dry long before this but it's not finished setting, if you spray before 24hrs have passed then the figures fog up like yours. Also, environmental conditions will affect the amount of time it takes to dry, I always leave it a couple of days before doing any varnish after seeing this happen to someone elses figures.
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That method probably can't be used on plastic though unfortunately.
Can't help with fixing the problem, however might be able to help avoid it in future. The dip by army painter holds a great deal of moisture and needs a minimum of 24 hours to dry. It feels dry long before this but it's not finished setting, if you spray before 24hrs have passed then the figures fog up like yours. Also, environmental conditions will affect the amount of time it takes to dry, I always leave it a couple of days before doing any varnish after seeing this happen to someone elses figures.
I think that you are right, one of those figures was left for two weeks after varnishing and still fogged but not quite as bad, the others were roughly 24 hrs so I think it was a mix of not leaving them to dry for long enough and the timing of th evarnishing outside at 8.30, it was a bit muggy which wouldn't help
still you live and learn :D
cheers
dodge
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Two weeks? Ouch, should have been dry by then! Hopefully one of the above suggestions will help.
As another thought, was it the beginning or end of the spray can? I had a similar problem once with some floor varnishing I did. The 'matting' medium had seperated slightly in the tub and I ended up with one corner of the floor that went a foggy white colour. I had to sand it back down and do it again to fix it.
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Looking at the picture, I think that the problem is either you didn’t shake the can enough before spraying or you were too generous with the anti-shine spray...
Now… that happen to me once but only on two or three figures… I fear I can’t be of much help since I decided to re-paint over the worst parts and leave the rest as is.
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Two weeks? Ouch, should have been dry by then! Hopefully one of the above suggestions will help.
As another thought, was it the beginning or end of the spray can? I had a similar problem once with some floor varnishing I did. The 'matting' medium had seperated slightly in the tub and I ended up with one corner of the floor that went a foggy white colour. I had to sand it back down and do it again to fix it.
it was the second use of the can, I am beginning to think it was me not shaking for long enough, and being over generous.
Looking at the picture, I think that the problem is either you didn’t shake the can enough before spraying or you were too generous with the anti-shine spray...
Now… that happen to me once but only on two or three figures… I fear I can’t be of much help since I decided to re-paint the over the worst parts and leave the rest as is.
I think that you are right so tonight I will shake the can for britain or at least three minutes anyway.
thank you both
dodge
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as I said
enamel thinner, either dipped or sprayed with a pump aerosol
try on an unimportant spot first if You don't trust the method
neither plastic nor acrylic paint will be attacked by it
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old recipe spray Dullcote used to remove fogging a treat... not had it happen recently so couldn't swear to the new recipe with less cancer version...
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Hey Guys
I think Its fixed certainly looks like it,
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/Dodge_2009/SDC11102.jpg)
and
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/Dodge_2009/SDC11100.jpg)
all I did was respray the Army Painter Anyi shine a little closer, and it went Yay
however I do have all of the other remedies to try, went and bought the humbrol enamel gloss with thinners to have a go at Tom and former user if it happens agin.
Thanks for all your help, I hope you agree it looks a whole lot better now :D
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They look good indeed... they would look better if they were BoB figures though ;)
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They look good indeed... they would look better if they were BoB figures though ;)
So what you are saying is get back onto the BoB stuff I have then
I do have 20 Red spears and 10 dare to Dies on the desk ;)
dodge