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Title: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on June 29, 2010, 06:44:17 PM
Just wondering if anyone has a need of these sort of decals.  I have a number of new WW2 sets going to print, but I have a lot of space on the sheets left over. 

I'm thinking a generic Police sheet for both vehicles and police figs (add to riot shields and armor/sleeve patches), One small set for SWAT, and a few sets for international units.  UK police markings, Germany, etc.

I'm thinking for vehicles, these are more for converting toy vans, etc and not necessarily police cars. (I have a 1/56 M113 painted blue that can use some Police markings..hence, this is really a ploy for me to get free decals :D )


(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/POLICE.jpg)

Thoughts?  Suggestions?

Thanks for any input.

Brent
Company B
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on June 29, 2010, 07:03:10 PM
print your own... piece of cake...

if you want white writing, you'll need white decal paper and you' just have to have a suitable background colour (but you can paint up to that after the fact)... also make sure you get the right paper for the right printer... the wrong stuff is fatal to your printer...
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on June 29, 2010, 07:20:55 PM
I'm using an alps... so it is white on clear paper...
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: anevilgiraffe on June 29, 2010, 09:16:04 PM
you know... I majorly misread what you were saying...   lol
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Captain Blood on June 29, 2010, 09:52:35 PM
Would have been EXTREMELY useful a few years ago when I was painting my Old Crow Future Wars security police vehicle fleet... I had to make a stencil saying 'Police' and use crappy WH40K badges...

So I think there would be a market for these.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 29, 2010, 10:55:45 PM
I agree with Capt. Blööd on this.

I'm currently have an APC on my work desk which is being turned into a space police vehicle for no reason whatsoever.

I do think a logo or badge would be handy next to it though.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on June 30, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
Hmmm, something like this?  If I do a badge, I can have that printed on Gold metallic.  It's possible to do small ones for figures as well.
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/POLICE2.jpg)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 12:45:51 AM
Expand the set to include 'POLICIA' and a vehicle set reading 'BOPE' and I might be interested.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Helen on June 30, 2010, 02:22:23 AM
Expand the set to include 'POLICIA' and a vehicle set reading 'BOPE' and I might be interested.

Hey Carlos, I watched a Four Corners Program on Monday night set in Brazil main drug problem area with the three main characters being an Inspector of police, Drug Warlord an a Priest. Guess who lost?

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: General Roos on June 30, 2010, 02:37:37 AM
They would come in handy for my zombie game.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Darkoath on June 30, 2010, 02:57:43 AM
Yes those would be very nice to have available! :-*

Darkoath
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Alfrik on June 30, 2010, 03:18:16 AM
Protect And Serve

assorted vehicle IDs     52  comes to mind, anyone seen it around?

toss is come town names.. Middland Police   Centerville Police  etc?

just some thoughts
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 03:39:01 AM
Hey Carlos, I watched a Four Corners Program on Monday night set in Brazil main drug problem area with the three main characters being an Inspector of police, Drug Warlord an a Priest..

This one? http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2010/s2936999.htm.

Hmm. I found that remarkably shallow, sad to say.  Foreign film maker discovers there is a drug war going on in Rio. If you want to see a much better documentary, albeit somewhat dated try looking for Katia Lundt's  Notícias de uma Guerra Particular (News from a Personal War). I think it has been bundled with some of the DVD versions of Cidade de Deus/ City of God.

Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 03:59:04 AM
Guess who lost?
Goes without saying that the people who lose are the people that have to live alongside the traficantes. As it happens my wife's favourite aunt lives in Acari next to one of the comunidades featured in that film. I've stayed there with her. She's a retired dressmaker. It's really irritating when you hear these f*#kers say, 'oh I'm doing this for my family, I have no choice'. My brother in law who earns salario minimo and works like a dog in a laundry has  the same choices. Friends who lead honest lives in worse favelas than those, all have a choice and they've chosen not to be drug dealers. It makes me really angry these days.

For the record the state and municipal authorities in Rio have made major efforts over the past year, particularly in the comunidades in Zona Sul by installing police posts (UPPs) where previously there was no permanent police presence. It's having a good effect reducing crime levels and it's being rolled out across the city. I just wish they would do something like that in Salvador, where the crime rates have rocketed up. Even the dickhead mayor has been forced to admit it.

Sorry for the rant. The film crew for a recent doco were soliciting for free accomodation and contacts on another forum I post on, may even have been the same crowd.  Seems every half bright gringo director or photojournalsit wants to repeat the same half-baked, inch deep coverage cos Rio is getting the Olympics. Bizarrely enough  you also get all the adventure tourists, wanting to do favela tours in Rio, where they get jeeped in like in a safari park. Obscene.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on June 30, 2010, 04:18:01 AM
And this project continues to evolve...

Ok, here's what I have now:
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/POLICE3.jpg)

The yellow colors would be printed in metallic gold.  And the first sheet has badges scaled for 28mm figures, etc.

I can imagine having another sheet that has markings for several international SWAT style forces.  The Brazilian BOPE being one of them...
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 04:35:07 AM
Excellent. I'll have some of those. Might I suggest if you do a foreign version you add 'Policia Militar', 'Policia Civil' and the BOPE emblem. http://www.lojadascanecas.com.br/imagens/loja/Bope.jpg

PMERJ shield emblems would be cool too.

Now all you need is a caveirão:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8350/caveiraobopepmerjln9.jpg

Might be a cool company B project.  ;)

I might add I doubt I would be playing with these but they would make interesting display items and I'm looking at doing some conversions of exisiting figures as cops.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: archangel1 on June 30, 2010, 05:02:27 AM
Nice idea.  I had the darndest time a few years ago trying to find some white Polizei decals for something I was working on.  For some reason, there were plenty of blue ones in the scale I required but nothing in white.  Weird.

Might I suggest, if space permits, you provide a few mirrored versions? Plenty of ECILOP and ECNALUBMA vehicles around here.  Don't know of an easy way to reverse the letter images, though.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 30, 2010, 07:25:48 AM
Hmmm, something like this?  If I do a badge, I can have that printed on Gold metallic.  It's possible to do small ones for figures as well.
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/POLICE2.jpg)


Brilliant!

EDIT: I'd advise against having different languages on the same paper. No way anyone will have use for both Polizei and Policia.  lol
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Argonor on June 30, 2010, 07:42:56 AM
Brilliant!

EDIT: I'd advise against having different languages on the same paper. No way anyone will have use for both Polizei and Policia.  lol

Joint Europol strikeforce?  lol

I concur - you'd probably only want to make vehicles for one language region (at a time).
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: warrenss2 on June 30, 2010, 11:35:41 AM
Ooooo..... Warren Like!!!!  :-*
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 30, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
Could you be persuaded to give a notice whenever these are available somewhere?

I will hold off finished my APC until then...  ;)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 08:57:27 PM
EDIT: I'd advise against having different languages on the same paper. No way anyone will have use for both Polizei and Policia.  lol

Maybe if they are modelling a BOPE raid on Complexo do Alemão (the German complex), one of the most violent favelas in Rio.  ;)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 30, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
Maybe if they are modelling a BOPE raid on Complexo do Alemão (the German complex), one of the most violent favelas in Rio.  ;)

Yes, an infinite amount of people will no doubt pick up on that subject.  lol
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on June 30, 2010, 09:37:54 PM
Dunno, they spent months there pre the Pan Games, it was kinda Iraq like for a while. I was on a plane coming back from Curitiba and we got stuck on the tarmac waiting for it to subside as stray rounds were entering the flight path for commercial jets at Galeão. Sad to relate but Rio's police are probably the most experienced operators in MOUT anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Commander Vyper on June 30, 2010, 11:18:49 PM
And this project continues to evolve...

Ok, here's what I have now:
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/POLICE3.jpg)

The yellow colors would be printed in metallic gold.  And the first sheet has badges scaled for 28mm figures, etc.

I can imagine having another sheet that has markings for several international SWAT style forces.  The Brazilian BOPE being one of them...

Add a UK police set and you'll be laughing.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Helen on July 01, 2010, 02:03:24 AM
Goes without saying that the people who lose are the people that have to live alongside the traficantes. As it happens my wife's favourite aunt lives in Acari next to one of the comunidades featured in that film. I've stayed there with her. She's a retired dressmaker. It's really irritating when you hear these f*#kers say, 'oh I'm doing this for my family, I have no choice'. My brother in law who earns salario minimo and works like a dog in a laundry has  the same choices. Friends who lead honest lives in worse favelas than those, all have a choice and they've chosen not to be drug dealers. It makes me really angry these days.

For the record the state and municipal authorities in Rio have made major efforts over the past year, particularly in the comunidades in Zona Sul by installing police posts (UPPs) where previously there was no permanent police presence. It's having a good effect reducing crime levels and it's being rolled out across the city. I just wish they would do something like that in Salvador, where the crime rates have rocketed up. Even the dickhead mayor has been forced to admit it.

Sorry for the rant. The film crew for a recent doco were soliciting for free accomodation and contacts on another forum I post on, may even have been the same crowd.  Seems every half bright gringo director or photojournalsit wants to repeat the same half-baked, inch deep coverage cos Rio is getting the Olympics. Bizarrely enough  you also get all the adventure tourists, wanting to do favela tours in Rio, where they get jeeped in like in a safari park. Obscene.

It's okay to rant Carlos, sometimes it needs to be said aloud an in the public arena.

We can only pray it get better in time.

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: AzSteven on July 01, 2010, 04:58:43 AM
Definitely could use those decals - my deskjet doesnt let me do white text on clear, and I need Police and Polizei markings.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Bugsda on July 01, 2010, 10:21:24 AM
I'd be up for some of these, with French or German spelling. I fancy a Bourne Ultimatum type swat team. :)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on July 01, 2010, 06:10:43 PM
Here's where we are at.  5 new sets for Police!
SWAT
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/SWAT.jpg)

Generic US Police
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/police.jpg)

Generic German Police
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/polizei.jpg)

The last two sets are in progress as will be Brazil and the UK.  Should have those up today sometime...

Brent
Company B
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Von Rittmeister on July 01, 2010, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: Commander Vyper
Add a UK police set and you'll be laughing.

Especially the words "Police public call box".  :D
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Heldrak on July 01, 2010, 07:02:23 PM
Especially the words "Police public call box".  :D

That's exactly what I was thinking! If you could add a tiny square TARDIS decal sized for the Fenris Resin Police Box that says:

"Police Telephone
       Free
for use of Public
  Pull to Open"

that would really help!
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Bungle on July 01, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
St Johns Ambulance logo too.  ;)

(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icseftonwl/aug2008/1/9/B6DBDFBE-DC8F-01B2-A1982FAD7AFD6DC8.jpg)

for vehicles

(http://www.policeauctionsuk.co.uk/police_auction_images/police_badge.jpg)or this one

silver ones for helmets?

(http://www.britishpolicehelmet.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/100_2118.jpg.w180h238.jpg)

or smaller cap badge size for other hats....

I'll do you a swap for some figures  lol

Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on July 01, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
should not be a problem to add those...  Thanks for the ref pics...

Also just a side note. I'm thinking of offering a decal service, which essentially piggy backs decals on our current sheets.  We reprint a lot of sets regularly..and several of the sheets have empty space that can be utilized.

I have not figured out all the details yet, but you would essentially buy a section of decal paper for a quick one off print (or several)  The only catch is that the size available is usually more of a strip than a rectangular set. The set cost would only be around $5 to $10 for a one off including basic type setting.  If you don't have the vector art or need stuff drawn, it would of course be a little more.  Of course, trades would be welcome in certain cases...
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on July 01, 2010, 07:53:09 PM
Does anyone have dimensions for the 28mm Tardis?  A measurement of the flat area that can accept a decal or several decals would be appreciated.

Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Von Rittmeister on July 11, 2010, 06:27:59 PM
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you . My Tardis has just materialised.... reading off my vernier gauge ..

Top "police" board 19.2 mm X  2.45 mm . in fact the black background is a bit shorter and thinner . 12.75 X 2.00 mm is about right .

Because the Glasgow police box has a slightly different panel arrangement on the entrance doors , where the white instruction panel should be , is a small door with a raised handle that needs shaving off . The panel measures 6.4 mm square , but the sign is narrower than that . the opposite panel is 4.7 X 9.3 mm if you want to include a St Johns cross .

Hope that helps . :D
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on July 14, 2010, 10:05:09 PM
updated UK police decal set.  Image is not to scale...
(http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/britpolice.png)

I need one kind volunteer that owns a 28mm tardis that I can send a file to for a size test --  you'll need a printer :)

Any takers?

Brent
Company B


Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Heldrak on July 15, 2010, 12:38:25 AM
Sent you a pm ;)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Dr. The Viking on July 15, 2010, 07:40:36 AM
I went to yer site yesterday to order the decals, but there didn't seem to be a "put in cart" button for the news decals?
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on July 15, 2010, 09:35:36 AM
Do UK police cars still have the 'electric jam sandwich' stripes down the side? Those would probably be useful if doing a UK set.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on July 15, 2010, 09:37:16 AM
Yep looks like they do, I suppose that varies from force to force though.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Steve F on July 15, 2010, 09:41:05 AM
A common alternative is a blue and yellow reflective chequerboard stripe down the side and blue and yellow chevrons on the back.
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Commander Vyper on July 15, 2010, 11:15:48 AM
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you . My Tardis has just materialised.... reading off my vernier gauge ..

Top "police" board 19.2 mm X  2.45 mm . in fact the black background is a bit shorter and thinner . 12.75 X 2.00 mm is about right .

Because the Glasgow police box has a slightly different panel arrangement on the entrance doors , where the white instruction panel should be , is a small door with a raised handle that needs shaving off . The panel measures 6.4 mm square , but the sign is narrower than that . the opposite panel is 4.7 X 9.3 mm if you want to include a St Johns cross .

Hope that helps . :D

Which glasqow police box are you using though Fenris games or one of the other companies?
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Commander Vyper on July 15, 2010, 11:17:35 AM
A common alternative is a blue and yellow reflective chequerboard stripe down the side and blue and yellow chevrons on the back.

Picture paints a thousand words.... ;)

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/content/images/2005/07/08/police_cars_420x284.jpg)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Bugsda on July 15, 2010, 11:59:12 AM
It's funny, you don't see many police cars about any more. I suppose they're all off making "fly on the wall" docutainment show's. ;)
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: CompanyB on July 15, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
Thanks Heldrak,

pdf file of the decals sent for test sizing.

Thorbjørn,
Sorry, not available yet  :'(

I sent out the SWAT decals last week, and should have them this weekend.  The others, plus the UK set would probably be in stock in about two weeks, once I send out the art.  I'll post an announce on the forum when they do get here though.

I expect the writing for the Tardis panel instructions will come out very nice.  The text/font on the Kubelwagen License plates is literally 2 points (>1mm)  and it came out very well on the final decals.  Now I just need some proper police cars in 1/56th   :D

Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Gallowglass on July 15, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
Picture paints a thousand words.... ;)

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/content/images/2005/07/08/police_cars_420x284.jpg)

Those are known as "Battenburg" markings, a special high visibility livery developed for the police and emergency services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battenburg_markings
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Von Rittmeister on July 15, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
Which glasqow police box are you using though Fenris games or one of the other companies?

The one Hasslefree sells . That's the Fenris one isn't it ?   
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: Heldrak on July 15, 2010, 07:06:49 PM
Which glasqow police box are you using though Fenris games or one of the other companies?

That's correct, I'm using the Fenris TARDIS ("Glasgow Police Box"). The notice on the test sheet seems to be a near-perfect size match! :D
Title: Re: 28mm Police Decals?
Post by: carlos marighela on July 15, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
Those are known as "Battenburg" markings, a special high visibility livery developed for the police and emergency services. htp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battenburg_markings

Are they edible then? Clever police ruse to flush out crims with a cup of tea and a nice piece of cake?