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Title: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 02, 2010, 08:37:50 PM
These may be worth checking out at some point

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/996750/
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals
Post by: joroas on July 03, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
Good spotting, that man!  :o
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals
Post by: Usagi on July 03, 2010, 06:09:31 AM
Excellent! I just got a box of those "popular WotR miniatures" yesterday, so that's very timely indeed. Thanks a bunch. :) As I'm doing a Yorkist force I'll have to wait for the next release, but it's good to know these are out there.
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals
Post by: Arlequín on July 03, 2010, 06:29:38 AM
They should make life easier for a lot of people. I must admit I'm dubious of the fact that Andrew Trollope had a livery badge though. He was Master Porter of the Calais Garrison and his men were 'government' troops for want of a better term. If his men wore a livery, it is likely to have been that of someone else (Warwick's before his defection, Somerset's or the King's after that are the most likely, but I'm guessing here).
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals
Post by: Captain Blood on July 03, 2010, 08:43:56 AM
Yerrrssss... Having had a quick look at the site / provider concerned, I'm a little dubious myself if some of their previous historical decals are anything to go by...
For instance, you can equip your knightly army with the heraldic badges of 'Eire' or 'Cornwall' - http://www.citadelsix.co.uk/page17.html - not terribly authentic methinks  ::)

Let's hope the WOTR offerings are a bit less flaky than this...  ;)
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 12, 2010, 11:06:49 AM
The site now has pics of the sets, plus two sets of Yorkist decals.

A' York!

 http://www.citadelsix.co.uk/page22.html

Thanks for the update Dave.
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: joroas on July 12, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
These look as if they will save a lot of work.
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 12, 2010, 11:19:12 AM
These look as if they will save a lot of work.

Yup a godsend and more to come apparently, did you make to the festival the weekend John?
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: joroas on July 12, 2010, 11:21:03 AM
No, I was marking GCSE papers and decided earning money narrowly won out over spending it...............  :?
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 12, 2010, 11:28:36 AM
No, I was marking GCSE papers and decided earning money narrowly won out over spending it...............  :?

Quite true, I could have been earning too, but all work and no play as they say :) I will post some pics up at some point, but first I must get back to earning.
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 12, 2010, 06:05:26 PM
They should make life easier for a lot of people. I must admit I'm dubious of the fact that Andrew Trollope had a livery badge though. He was Master Porter of the Calais Garrison and his men were 'government' troops for want of a better term. If his men wore a livery, it is likely to have been that of someone else (Warwick's before his defection, Somerset's or the King's after that are the most likely, but I'm guessing here).

On the Citadel Six transfer sheet it is a white hart, don't know if this is correct but it will do for my fictional retinue of Robinson, Lord Rawnsley. The Robinson heraldic arms has a yellow hart, so a white one will do my livery coats, now can I stick them to the figures on the base I have done for Lord Berners?
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Arlequín on July 12, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
I think Sir William Stanley's was a White Hart (or just its head) and I'm sure there were another one or two who used that, so it's not money wasted. It is entirely possible that Trollope did kit his merry band in a livery and it is one of the charges on his coat of arms after all. I merely 'suspect' (given I know of no evidence either way) that he would have been under the wing of Somerset or in the King's service and would have worn their livery and badge.

As for the 'Robinson Livery' it was quite common to use an emblem from a coat of arms as a badge, even in a different colour. Obviously the Robinson's had deep purses back then and didn't want to push the boat out and pay to have the cloth dyed.  ;)
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Phil Robinson on July 12, 2010, 11:26:03 PM
I think Sir William Stanley's was a White Hart (or just its head) and I'm sure there were another one or two who used that, so it's not money wasted. It is entirely possible that Trollope did kit his merry band in a livery and it is one of the charges on his coat of arms after all. I merely 'suspect' (given I know of no evidence either way) that he would have been under the wing of Somerset or in the King's service and would have worn their livery and badge.

As for the 'Robinson Livery' it was quite common to use an emblem from a coat of arms as a badge, even in a different colour. Obviously the Robinson's had deep purses back then and didn't want to push the boat out and pay to have the cloth dyed.  ;)

The Robinson's have deep purses even now, the sheet also has Somersets livery badge which I want and dont want to waste the other half of the sheet :) The Stanley livery was just the head BTW.
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on July 13, 2010, 07:10:04 AM
The Robinson's have deep purses even now, the sheet also has Somersets livery badge which I want and dont want to waste the other half of the sheet :) The Stanley livery was just the head BTW.
If not deep purses, them short arms! lol
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: joroas on July 13, 2010, 07:33:41 AM
I just like to call it "Careful with money......."  ::)
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Arlequín on July 13, 2010, 07:29:35 PM
Well there's 'careful with money' and there's having someone drop a coin and it hitting the back of his head on it's the way to the ground.   :)
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on July 13, 2010, 08:54:07 PM
I just like to call it "Careful with money......."  ::)
Oh, you mean tight?
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Captain Blood on July 23, 2010, 10:34:04 PM
Little Big Man Studios have caught up... Now these look the business...

From TMP:

'Just finished two new banner sheets for my 28mm Wars of the Roses range. Both depict swallow-tailed banners. The first is Lancastrian with flags for Clifford, Northumberland, Somerset and Devon. The second is Yorkist with flags for Edward iv as at Towton, Warwick, Fauconberg and Norfolk. As well as the flags, I have done some livery badge transfers, between 40 and 50 for most nobles. These are very small, about 0.25mm in width in most cases, so will be a bit like applying micro tank decals. They operate in the same way as my shield transfers, so you need to prime the area white where you will apply the transfer (even if you prime your figures black, just do a patch of white on the breast of the figure to apply the transfer). I have done a darker color around the design to match the dark shade of the base colour of the livery, this should make it easier to butt paint up to the edges of the design.'

(http://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/catalog/images/WOTR%203.jpg)

(http://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/catalog/images/WOTR%204.jpg)

http://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/2168
Title: Re: WoTR Livery Badge Decals (Update 12/07/10)
Post by: Arlequín on July 24, 2010, 11:00:32 AM
wow! They are pretty much the mutt's nuts.  :-*