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Title: Return of the Martians
Post by: Westfalia Chris on August 18, 2010, 12:56:01 AM
Hi folks,

some of you may remember me showing some Martians I did back in 2005-6. Then, the "project" included a Tripod (actually the start, done on a whim), a Flying Machine (which was basically a "VSF-ified" variant of those in the 1953 WotW movie), and some sculpted and cast Martians. You can see pictures of those here: Chris' Victoriana Gallery at DisplacedMiniatures.com (http://www.displacedminiatures.com/Scratchbuilder_Christian/gallery/674/)

Anyway, after that, I didn't really follow up (although I'm usually very interested in anything VSF/ESF, and H.G. Wells in particular). I got the book as a paperback, but that was it. Ultimately, the Tripod went to subdue an excellent defensive position in Shropshire, held in an amusingly clumsy fashion. ;) The rest went into hibernation (read storage).

Then, following last years very nice-looking VSF game at the BLAM (in which I sadly did not participate) and the Atlantis campaign, I got the Martians out when I was in Germany this July and took them over to the UK. I didn't really plan on doing much more on it, but elysium64's pointer concerning EMA Model Supplies and a PM by the Shropshirean inspired me to build another tripod.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_800_1.jpg)

The model consists of several acrylic shapes, wood pieces, metal washers and rings, and a secret ingredient to be revealed further down. And some plasticard to spruce up the surfaces.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_800_2_HEAD_1.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_640.jpg)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_640_HEATRAY.jpg)

The basic design is loosely based on my original Tripod (http://www.displacedminiatures.com/Scratchbuilder_Christian/image/674/10581/), but features different proportions, more detailed legs arranged in a different fashion (although I may reposition those for more stability, or add a base).

The torso can be rotated and removed by a pin mount. I'll maybe add some weathering or extra shading for some definition.

Now, while I'm happy with how the model worked out and how the green acrylic parts worked with the brassy colour (I wasn't 100% convinced when I opened EMA's package this morning, as it looked very "neon-ish", and even though I only was a wee lad back in the 80s and early 90s, I do remember neon as a fashion better to be forgotten, or rather beaten up with a baseball bat). Nonetheless, I had planned to do something special with the model, and am pleased to announce that it worked out.

So, for the pièce de résistance:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_800_3_ILLUMINATED.jpg)

Yup, it's illuminated.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_640_ILLUMINATED.jpg)

Please take note, though, that it is done in a fashion which would shame my father (professor of electrical engineering), but I cannot do proper model lighting - never got the hang of wiring, resistors and LEDs, so I used this (and some LEDs for the engine decking, illuminated from the inside):

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/TRIPOD_640_INTERIOR.jpg)

A 50p "pushlight" bought at Poundland. The overall effect is rather pleasing, if I may say so myself, and even visible under daylight, but I shamelessly chose darkness for a higher "woof!" rating.

Now, off to shoot down some Aeronefs and to study the effects of Heat Rays on liftwood.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Supercollider on August 18, 2010, 01:06:21 AM
Awesome!  That looks very effective. I think the green elements go very well with the metal, and look suitably martian. :-*
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: TwoGunBob on August 18, 2010, 01:12:22 AM
I don't think awesome quite conveys how impressed I am with this.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Calimero on August 18, 2010, 01:25:38 AM

Really cool work Chris 8)
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: manfred on August 18, 2010, 01:46:16 AM
Wow!  Just Wow!  Really nice design and a fantastic use of the push light.

Great job!
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: redzed on August 18, 2010, 02:30:59 AM
it just gets better and better :)
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Blackwolf on August 18, 2010, 07:28:27 AM
Bloodly lovely! That's how a tripod should look. :-*
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 18, 2010, 07:45:59 AM
That's fantastic Chris  :-*  :-*  :-* And a very enjoyable write up, I swear, your English is better than most of the locals (especially mine  ;D )

One thing I would comment on and it's not to detract from the build at all, is the legs. I feel they should be more fluid, but you get this with almost every tripod build. Reading the book it gives the impression of 'snake' legs with no visable joints. But to be fair, this is just me being a bit picky. As I said, wonderful build  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on August 18, 2010, 08:13:47 AM
Woof woof!

Excellent work Chris. Good old Poundland  ;)

I like the green tinge to the domes etc - reminiscent of the 50s film, yet still looks like proper Wellsian VSF. I think the heat ray is my favourite bit.

Superb  :-*
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: moif on August 18, 2010, 08:16:18 AM
Simply brilliant!! Well done. I love it!
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Malamute on August 18, 2010, 08:17:07 AM
Absolutely brilliant, I love everything about it, the lights are the icing on a rather splendid piece of Victoria sponge cake. ;D
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Westfalia Chris on August 18, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
One thing I would comment on and it's not to detract from the build at all, is the legs. I feel they should be more fluid, but you get this with almost every tripod build. Reading the book it gives the impression of 'snake' legs with no visable joints. But to be fair, this is just me being a bit picky. As I said, wonderful build  :D

Yes, point taken. I was always at a loss at how to interpret Wells' description of the thing working without any axles (i.e. rotatory power transfer) or wheels, and "snake-like" is always a bit difficult to capture, especially if you want rigidity (and a look of rigidity). That said, I think you could do it with acrylic rods wrapped in thin paper strip, and I may very well try it sometime.

For this one, however, I took a bit of inspiration from the classic 1927 "Amazing Stories" cover:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/6a00d8341ca18953ef01127907a61128a4-300wi.jpg)

Those legs are very spindly, though, but I like the general layout best of the various interpretation on the theme I've seen (except for the BBC tripods, those rock).
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Tsune on August 18, 2010, 08:24:38 AM
Brilliant idea that works excepcionally well!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Dewbakuk on August 18, 2010, 08:54:01 AM
Excellent build and a great piece of lighting there :)

I will say I prefer the legs on the original, they might be less detailed but I prefer the way they are set away from the body.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: JollyBob on August 18, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
You are an evil genius.  :o
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 18, 2010, 10:14:19 AM
Yes, point taken. I was always at a loss at how to interpret Wells' description of the thing working without any axles (i.e. rotatory power transfer) or wheels, and "snake-like" is always a bit difficult to capture, especially if you want rigidity (and a look of rigidity). That said, I think you could do it with acrylic rods wrapped in thin paper strip, and I may very well try it sometime.

For this one, however, I took a bit of inspiration from the classic 1927 "Amazing Stories" cover:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Victoriana%20Miscellanea/6a00d8341ca18953ef01127907a61128a4-300wi.jpg)

Those legs are very spindly, though, but I like the general layout best of the various interpretation on the theme I've seen (except for the BBC tripods, those rock).

I think the legs in the new film with (horror of horrors) Tom Cruise worked quite well, but that would be a task and a half in making them (had a good look myself you see  :) )

After having a second look, which is the front. Is it the 'hoody' or the three domes?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Dewbakuk on August 18, 2010, 10:16:46 AM
It'll be the domes as that's where the heat ray and manipulator arms are pointing.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Whiskyrat on August 18, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
 :-* :-* :-* Awesome.

Once you had secured the parts - how long did it take you to build?

Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Thunderchicken on August 18, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Oh my! I've been looking forward to seeing this build and it was worth the wait (all of a few days!). From conception to completion that is a bloody quick and impressive build Chris.  :-*  :-*

It's a hard job trying to re-create a Wells tripod, purely down to how you interpret his description. Of all the illustrations produced during his lifetime Wells didnt really give any of them the nod.

Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Westfalia Chris on August 18, 2010, 01:20:53 PM
:-* :-* :-* Awesome.

Once you had secured the parts - how long did it take you to build?



I got the EMA pack yesterday morning around 8.30, took a quick detour to Hobbycraft while getting groceries for some more detail parts, and started out around 11am. The leg assembly was finished by lunchtime; after that, the body was built, which took until about 4pm. Let it dry for an hour and basecoated it (white spray). Applied the first layer of paint around 6pm, and modeled the heat ray while that was drying. Painted on and off for the evening, finished it around 10pm.

A quick build, if you like. :D
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Doomsdave on August 18, 2010, 07:01:45 PM
Brilliant, and only a day's work.  :-*

I'm so ashamed of myself. 
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: matakishi on August 18, 2010, 08:04:24 PM
Inspired genius.











Damn you!  >:(
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Thunderchicken on August 20, 2010, 11:16:10 AM
How about these for snake like legs:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8010/legskl.jpg)

I'm thinking modelled on the 2005 version.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Westfalia Chris on August 20, 2010, 11:38:14 AM
How about these for snake like legs:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8010/legskl.jpg)

I'm thinking modelled on the 2005 version.

It's still rather mechanical isn't it? Not that I don't like it, but I'd go for a proper "flexi-coil" appearance, or fully-clad tentacle legs (thicker than "manipulator" tentacles, obviously).
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 20, 2010, 01:16:33 PM
How about these for snake like legs:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8010/legskl.jpg)

I'm thinking modelled on the 2005 version.

Are they the one's Svennn is making for you?

cheers

James
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: twrchtrwyth on August 20, 2010, 10:49:36 PM
Excellent Chris.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Svennn on August 21, 2010, 09:22:08 AM
Top notch Chris, the nicest version I think I have seen. Love it. Now make TC one or two would you :)
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: gamer Mac on August 21, 2010, 09:47:29 AM
Excellent stuff Chris. :-* :-* :-*
Very nice touch with the lights.
Where do you find all the cool rounded shapes.
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Lt. Hazel on August 21, 2010, 11:22:15 AM
You are the best. ;)
Title: Re: Return of the Martians
Post by: Westfalia Chris on August 21, 2010, 12:56:54 PM
Excellent stuff Chris. :-* :-* :-*
Very nice touch with the lights.
Where do you find all the cool rounded shapes.


The coloured plastic pieces and the main body shapes were purchased from http://www.ema-models.co.uk/. Superb service, and reasonable prices, although the larger spheres come dangerously close to the "ouch" barrier.

The wooden parts used for the legs (spheres, button plugs, and "flowerpots") were bought from my local Hobbycraft store.

The LEDs on the back of the "engine deck" I bought from an electrical discounter here in Hull whose name eludes me at the moment.