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Other Stuff => Workbench => "Build Something" Archiv => Topic started by: Silent Invader on August 24, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
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Well, it's something I need for a game I'm in the throes of putting together for my 18thC North America project (you know the one, I've made a few bits already!).
Basically a watchtower for a non-fortified settlement. Something like the one in Sleepy Hollow or (I think) The Village.
I aim to have it completed by mid-October (as other deadlines come to bear).
EDIT = change of title
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I would have thought that CD would be very useful for this forum ;D
Nice idea and in keeping with what you have already, good stuff :)
cheers
James
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This is not a realistic structure no one erects a roofless structure in New England. You have no idea what the winters are like here. Also I've never seen a colonial tower that wasn't attached to another building. Here's an exact replica of a New Hampshire frontier fort from 1744. Note the attached watchtower.
http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/2010/todays-news/new-hampshire-fort-to-reopen.html
Rob
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This is not a realistic structure no one erects a roofless structure in New England. You have no idea what the winters are like here. Also I've never seen a colonial tower that wasn't attached to another building. Here's an exact replica of a New Hampshire frontier fort from 1744. Note the attached watchtower.
http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/2010/todays-news/new-hampshire-fort-to-reopen.html
Rob
Well, you know, people of the New Hampshire frontier weren't exactly 28mm tall to the eyes and I haven't seen any evidence they had a large metal disc glued to their feet either. >:D
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Build it, Who cares if its not historically accurate! It looks great in the movie and will make a nice addition to your games. :)
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Build it with a removable roof so you can have it both ways. Opened or closed
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Build it with a removable roof so you can have it both ways. Opened or closed
Your intelligence is blinding, GC... o_o
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Build it with a removable roof so you can have it both ways. Opened or closed
Always a good idea.
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Eat hot steaming refuse and pass away, kidterminal! ;)
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I just joshing away. :)
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Instead of a ponder, I had a google.
Folks, I present to you, a period temporary platform structure without a roof! :D
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/guardtower_02.jpg)
:)
That's terribly interesting siege tower! I wasn't able to find any pictures of the later western frontier watch towers built all over the west during the Indian wars. I did find these Fire watch towers though. They are nearly the same as the US Calvary ones I saw as a kid. The military ones lacked the porch-like outer railing and either had a chest high outer wall or loop holes instead of windows.
http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/fire-lookout-towers-of-pacific.html
Rob
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I think the walls on that are very interesting and I'm wondering on how much is artistic license and how much is 'real'. I'm also wondering how the hell you get in lol
cheers
James
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We know ;) :)
Ha ha my little joshers I will now unleash upon you hours of colonial fort/stockade research guaranteed to give you fits. Or at least a burning desire to build all you're about to see. Which, well is another kind of fit I think. ???
More permeate wooden fort towers. ;D
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/the_athenaeum/2010/04/archaeology-in-the-americas-part-1-ocmulgee-mounds-macon-ga.html
A wooden stockade and blockhouse.
http://prickettsfort.blogspot.com/
An interesting article on early American stockades.
http://www.fsgfort.com/DB/C085/36/Text.htm
Interesting facts and drawing of Fort Sackville built by the British Empire in 1777.
http://www.nps.gov/gero/historyculture/fort.htm
Another British blockhouse fort.
http://brownsguides.com/diytours/dariens-fort-king-george/
French wooden fort built about 1730.
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Archeologists+unearth+fort+battle+North+America/2717921/story.html o_o
Rob
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This looks great Silent I can't wait to see it finished.
Rob
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Looking really good, but I lost my tower-brother :(
Yours truly,
Sir Dryden
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As with all your projects SI, I'll be watching this with interest :D
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A nice looking feature in plan.
I was expecting to see piles of coins for the base rocks... But FOAM!! :o :o
;)
lol
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I'm curious as to why you've chosen to use foam. It's not exactly something I would think of using to build rocks with. But otherwise if it follows the standard on the rest of your stuff, then it's going to be great.
Duncan
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Ok, now I'm really intrigued as to see how this is going to turn out. You could just have stumbled on the next modelling secret :) - if it works that is, as which wargamer doesn't have tons of foam lying around?
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Some may find this link interesting regarding the use of foam for rocks:
http://members.westnet.com.au/mjbd/html/foam_rocks_-_frocks.html
I have another link somewhere that I found some time ago which also has a tutorial regarding the use of foam as rocks but this site shows what can be achieved using the soft, spongy foam often used in lounge suites. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find it in my favourites...
I will post the link if or when I come across it.
Cheers,
Barry
PS: Looking good SI :D
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Looking great already :)
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Great link there Barry! I'm looking forwards to seeing how this turns out. Like you say it looks pretty good, if it'll turn out hard as well then it's something that is going to have to be experimented with.
Duncan
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any plaster board jointing compound to hand
that's just normal filler surely? watered down a fair bit probably... I like the strata they've achieved...
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Glad the link was useful.
I'm chuffed it's Australian as usually these types of things are from other parts of the world and we need to try and find local alternatives lol
The other link I referred to in my original post was American and I still haven't come across it ::)
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Man I wish everybody else posted so many pictures of their works, builds, paints or other wise. (that includes myself as well)
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No no no, MORE images, we need MORE images ;)
I really like your structure. It would look right at home in my neighborhood lol.
Yours truly,
Sir Dryden
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If it were made out of corrugated iron and had the battalion's name spelt out on the ground in front with tiny whitewashed rocks, it could almost pass as a Boer War blockhouse. Inspired by you, I was thinking of throwing my hat into the ring and building one of those, but two things stopped me: 1) I can't be bothered. 2) I don't currently have a camera, so there's no point anyway.
Looking forward to seeing the finished result. :)
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two things stopped me: 1) I can't be bothered.
That is indeed a persuasive argument... :)
But it would be a nice to see a Plynkes-built Boer War blockhouse... ::)
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Lovely stuff SI
Really coming on a storm.
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Yep, looking great with every new photo :)
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It looks great Silent. I'm still a little uncertain about using the packing foam but hopefully a few more coats of filler will sort them.
Rob
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That's a pity regarding the rocks. I think I'm still going to have to give the technique a shot though. But a good looking build, it's looking promising.
Duncan
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It's looking really, really good now. I like the loopholes. :)
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Your perseverance is paying off.
The build is coming out really nice.
:-*
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Please excuse naff grammer etc as I'm typing this from my i-thing.
This is looking very promising indeed :D How about for the next tine you do the foam roks you cover tyem with pva and then use car body filler for the hard coat. you can get it at Halfords and its called p38. Stinks to high heavan but gives a vert tougg finish.
cheers
James (who's being very high tech ;D )
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The building looks great. The rock outcropping is in need of texture. Try crumpling up a small ball of tinfoil and pressing it into the green stuff for texture.
Rob
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I've used car body filler on Polystrene and it just crumbled, wrecking the piece I was working on, I'd say avoid it on the foam (great for so many other things though), though if you do try it, try it on some scrap first and see if it will hold.
Duncan
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A decent base coat of pva will sort you out no worries.
There is also a styrene content in it (about 15% if I remember correctly) so you can use plastic glue on it with some effect.
cheers
James
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Bloody brilliant :-*
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Now its looking good.
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That's nice Silent. I see you're a man who must have working doors in everything. By the way the GF saw these pictures and she says no one is allowed to have this much talent. ;D
Rob
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Cracking work :-* :-*
Some lovely detail
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Astounding work. Amazing even before it's finished.
Love your attention to detail. Did I read that right that you redid the panel lines underneath? Incredible!
Thanks for the tutorial style that mentions even your boo-boos and how you dealt with them...a real learning experience.
Can't wait to see the finished piece.
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That looks brilliant :-* :-* :-*
I really and admire your attention to detail as well!
Thanks chaps. :)
I should have mentioned, now that the epoxy putty has been added the foam-covered-with-filler-and-then-a-dash-of-super-glue has firmed up rather nicely; it no longer suffers when pressed with a finger tip.
Glad to hear it worked out for you.
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Lovely work, any chance that you are going to put in strap hinges on the door and trap door?
LB
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The details are very good. Great work
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Superb, from the initial concept to the finished product. :-*
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Wow, that turned out very well!
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Looking good! We have some very nice entries.
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Very thorough as usual! ;)
I think that's turned out rather well. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
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All I can say is.....It's going to take some beating
Got to agree with that.
Cracking build :-*
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That looks brilliant :-* :-* :-*
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Now that is exceptionally nice, and has been said is going to take some beating.
Duncan
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Greetings
What an interesting build. But what really caught my eye today is this last picture you showed. The one with the summary. Probably because I have not (yet) seen such pictures in projects. It gives me -personally-, the essence -I think would be the word- from that this contest is about. A project from start till end. Milestones. An accomplishment.
I hope to see more such summary pictures in the future.
Thank you much
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Great stuff SI :D
cheers
James
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very very impressed with that... pity the rocks ended up being so much work...
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Brilliant result, Silent Invader!
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I hope to see more such summary pictures in the future.
Agreed, a nice way to present a competition project.
The devil is in the detail SI - is it hot down there?!?!? ;) WOW!
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Great model and a excellent tutorial! Thanks!
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Not only am I pulling out of the competition now, I'm pulling out of life. Just kidding :) That's a great piece of terrain there!
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That turned out great Silent. I'm glad I could be of some slight help.
Rob
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... the value of masking cannot be overstated.
Amen.
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You live and learn... ::)
;)
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This really is a brilliant build, I'm looking forward to seeing it painted. :)
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Well good thing you corrected that inexcusable, atrocious mistake... How could you?
lol
But that is the way of the true perfectionist I guess. Can't wait to see it finished.
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A belated thank you for the feedback which is very generous.
I've moved on to the painting stage but when spray undercoating I forgot to mask the foam board 'boulder wall' and so parts of it were damaged by the solvent. Fortunately, it was easily repaired with greenstuff but the value of masking cannot be overstated.
I coat it my foam board with 2 layers of watered down PVA glue. I seals the foam and prevents that sort of thing.
Rob
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the sides of the boulders and the crevices between were great, I just lost my rounded peaks! :()
Same thing happens to me when I make Meringues :D
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Thanks for the feedback :)
Thanks Rob, that is a top tip.
I did give it one coat of PVA, as shown (still wet) in this image:
It would seem that my shortcoming was in not giving it two coats.
I suspect that, as it dried, the first coat shrunk away from the 'peaks' of the boulders to leave them unprotected, as it was these that suffered the damage from the spray undercoat (the sides of the boulders and the crevices between were great, I just lost my rounded peaks! :()
Yeah that stuff is porous as hell. The best way to check if you've given it enough coats I've found is to tap it with a tool, if you hear the click of a hard surface you're good. If not then you're hitting foam and you'll need more coats.
Rob
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Looks great!