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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Storm Wolf on September 08, 2010, 06:39:21 PM
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Okay, my next project is to do a not-GW space marine type army for use with any of the rules that I use.
For standard powered armour wearing marines I will be using Vridian Interdict Marines http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_61&products_id=576
but with new heads, as I don`t like the viridian ones, from Pig Iron http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/hd7-heavy-infantry-closed-head-sprues-p-23.html
Scouts will be standard old metal GW ones, but with all skullz(TM) and extra bits removed and weapons swapped.
For Terminators I will be using lots of EM4 Space Rangers http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Science_Fiction.html (scroll down)
As for Dreadnoughts I will be using Mongoose MI "Grizzly" suits of which I have 3, and for vehicles I will be using de-skulled & de-eagled new Rhinos.
I have loads of painted and unpainted Marines but the whole "In the far future, everything will be covered in useless bling!" has really started to get up my nose >:( lol
I will be painting them in a variety of chapter colours and they will represent a Rogue Traders crusading retinue (same army badge).
Cheers SW
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Our school club suggests marines painted in school house colours.
Maybe you could theme yours on local sports teams ?
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Seeing as you want to go non-GW, why not try this beast for the Rhino?:
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=126_128&products_id=1067
For scouts, you could use the jungle troopers from Copplestone Castings:
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=FW
...I know you probably already have the GW minis that you plan to use...but I thought I'd suggest a non-GW alternative ;)
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This sounds like a cool project. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the results. The main thing I have against GW Space Marines (other than the price) is the whole skulls and unecessary adornments.
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Thanks for the advice one and all!
The idea is to have a marine force that I like the look of, so thats why I am keeping the original metal scouts and the new Rhino's plus the fact that i have all of the stuff for this project already :o
I will post pics when it gets a bit more advanced, I have already put together and painted some EM4 space rangers as space marine termies (with jump packs - possibly) in Imperial Fists, Crimson Fists (no smurfs for me) and Blood Angels colours, but without transfers at present. I have also completed version 1 of Rogue Trader/Inquisitor Kalen Dark in termie armour (heavy PA in FUBAR rules).
I already have 2 squads of de-blinged & painted imperial guard Cadians to add to his retinue. Of course this may well turn into an Inquistorial strike force, hm`mmmmm?
SW
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This sounds like a cool project. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the results. The main thing I have against GW Space Marines (other than the price) is the whole skulls and unecessary adornments.
what he said.
Get those photos up, a picture is worth a thousand words and all that....
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Cool idea, looking forward to seeing it!
For the rhino, have you seen Ramshackles Iron Grumbler? It looks like it could be serviceably made into a deblinged rhino...
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Interesting concept. My take would be along these lines:
Standard SMs: Viridian Interdict Marines, no shields
Scouts: Junker Legionnaires (they already have shotguns, knives and pistols)
Terminators:Junker Exosuits
Dreadnoughts: The Grizzlies are a perfect choice
Rhinos/Variants: Gotta go with Old Crow vehicles
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I thin of marines as "knights in space", so I made this unit as my assault marines:
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curtisfell/space%20marines%20web/assault_all.jpg)
The whole army can be seen here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curtisfell/space%20marines%20web/
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I thin of marines as "knights in space", so I made this unit as my assault marines:
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curtisfell/space%20marines%20web/assault_all.jpg)
The whole army can be seen here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curtisfell/space%20marines%20web/
Very nice stuff, Curtis :-*
Was not sure about the direction my TrueScale project will go, but now I know.
Thanks for sharing
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Nice, very nice!
When I get some more time, I will post pics of what I have done already!
Problem with Space Marines is that I started playing Rogue Trader in 1987-88 and I much prefer the idea of Marines as they looked and were written about in the fluff then ;), than to the over-detailed nonsense they have devolved into now :'(
SW
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That's not really a problem if you choose to stick to the old background material. I have built a Space Marine force for 4th edition using Rogue Trader models and sticking to the RT background. You can see some pictures of them here (old topics, shameless plug):
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11432.0 (tactical and assault marines)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11632.0 (scouts)
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11065.0 (field police)
You can do something similar with the other models you mentioned using just the Space Marine rules and not the warrior-monk background.
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Very nice stuff, Curtis :-*
Was not sure about the direction my TrueScale project will go, but now I know.
Thanks for sharing
So is this TrueScale a 1:1 modelling project? Games using full sized replicas? Sounds interesting!
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For an alternative Rhino, and base for vehicles I'd go with Curtis' new Iron Grumbler myself.
(http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/images/IG_colour01.jpg)
As a former Evil Empire follower I do have some interest in Space Marines though over the years changes to their style and rather bias background has made me care less about them. I agree that the newer trend of absolutly covering them in ornamentation doesn't really suit my vision of them.
Also I find myself constantly hating how there are some amazing realistically scaled pieces of artwork, like this for example (I know he is a bit of a newer style so starting to be covered in useless gubbins but the body proportions are more important, and a few extra pieces on a Veteran or Leader is okay by me):
(http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-90027-1205171981.jpg)
Yet as a result of the EEs "heroic" scale the official miniatures have rediculous ape arms and other very weird body proportions.
:?
I am constantly stunned when I find "Truescale" projects in my wanders round the net as very often they capture what I do like about the marines perfectly.
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I've got a (unpainted-) platoon of metal marines scouts only, led by a witchhunter.
The old Warzone wolfbanes are the same size and proportions and use them as adversaries. And they're sculpted by Mark Copplestone.
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So is this TrueScale a 1:1 modelling project? Games using full sized replicas? Sounds interesting!
A True Scale Marine is not a 1:1 scale thingy, it's an attempt to make Space Marines look like they are described in the fluff, as bulking Warmachines.
Mainly you have two ways to build them, by using the legs from Terminators or by cuting an normal mini into pieces and put some spacers in.
I do the second way.
To give you an idea of how they scale up, just some pics from WarSeer, minis made by Synapse:
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Comsquare/tswe3.jpg)
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Comsquare/tswe4.jpg)
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Comsquare/tswe1.jpg)
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Sounds very interesting
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Damn you Comsquare every time I see truescale marines I get tempted to cut up the deathwing army I have sat gathering dust since I stopped playing 40k.
:)
Synapse does have some brilliant pieces, though for me while he has the terminator armour proportioned just right the arms of his marines seem to be a little long...closer to knee length than groin length. That is something I do tend to notice with a lot of truescale marines but they are still certainly much better proportioned than the regular marines which are anatomically rediculous.
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I once gave the 'true-scale' thing a go...
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/Comp4.jpg)
He's a Chaos Warsmith in Terminator armour...the other one is a standard Terminator...
I started with one of the old plastic Terminators and kept going...
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/Ter22.jpg)
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Great stuff, Inso :o
Will never reach that level.
@ Viper
Agree with the arms, but Synapse's minis are one of the finest TrueScale I ever saw, though.
Even f he uses Terminator-legs ;)
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So much sculpting work Inso, and all of it brilliant.
:)
Yeah Comsquare, aside from the arms, which could easily just be a personal thing, everything else from the build to the paint job is just stunning with Synapse.
I don't mind the terminator legs as a starting point myself, though I have seen a lot of different methods from bulking out and extending the regular marine legs to scratch building a whole new set of legs, and then the terminator legs with a vast array of levels of work done to them, from just using them clean to cutting, reposing and doing a lot of sculpting.
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Agreed all of the good work on old beakies and true-scaleTMMarines makes me feel rather bad about my own meager efforts....
Some very good work there from one and all, I really love the old RT Military Police models, superb :-*
I miss the old days of 40k, when you could do anything you wanted and still play in-store and there were no official-only models allowed, them`s were the days!
Thanks for the inspiration guys
SW
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Doghouse started the ball rolling over on B&C and the W.I.P forums (under Greydeath) with some really nice tru-scale marines, worth digging them out for reference purposes, though again that those world eaters are nice too.
The Commander
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I remember when the newer version of plasic space marines came out they actually were somewhat bigger than the average human. after that, the new imperial guard were as big as space marines.
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I'm actually doing something pretty similar but im using SpaceLords BunkerBreakers as SpaceMarines and Old Crow tanks for Razorbacks.
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Agreed all of the good work on old beakies and true-scaleTMMarines makes me feel rather bad about my own meager efforts....
There's nothing wrong with using the Viridian Marines as a basis as they are really nice figures, I used them myself as Enforcers in Necromunda. The idea to swap the heads with Pig Iron miniatures is also a good idea as the turtle helmets they have are a bit awkward. I'm looking forward to seeing your "Space Marine" army! 8)