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Title: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: redzed on September 12, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/sep/355345b.jpg)
(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/sep/355345a.jpg)

Die Waffenkammer LINK (http://www.diewaffenkammer.com/)

I've always loved the BR-52 Loco (I expect because it's in so many war films) and wanted one in '28mm'.
With that in mind I contacted some people who I thought may also be interested in a group commission.
From start to finish all decisions were taken as a one-man-one-vote, which although slow worked out really well.
The end result is above and more pictures are available HERE (http://s1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee511/jtrnka/)
The master was made by the very, very, talented Ian Armstrong. The loco is scaled at 1/56, but the wheelbase is a bit narrower to run on 1/60th (S scale) track.
Jeff at Die Waffenhammer (now owns the master) and will shortly be selling copies at a very reasonable rate (it's a HUGE chunk of resin with the most fantastic detail, as good as the 1/35 version).

Thanks to Si & Bungle for their help, and the Prof for letting us use a forum board as a meeting place.
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 12, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
I saw this on PMT and was rather taken aback with the quality. Beautiful work and I hope it sells well  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Michi on September 12, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
One should note that these were built for a duration of only 10 years in the 1940s, but were still in daily use until the 1990s and a lot survived steaming for museum railways today!
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Captain Blood on September 12, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
Stunning Shaun. I hope you and the other investors in the syndicate are all happy as sand boys with the end result.  :)
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: AKULA on September 12, 2010, 09:59:05 PM
Very much so!

 :D
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: jtrnka on September 13, 2010, 12:00:17 PM
Hopefully Northstar Figures and The Wargames Command Post will want to stock this on your side of the pond for me.  :)

Cheers,

Jeff @ JTFM
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: aircav on September 14, 2010, 09:53:20 AM
Thats very very nice  :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: former user on September 22, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
congratulations on this awsome model!

from what I can see in the pictures it can even be converted easily to a running model!
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Bungle on September 22, 2010, 10:12:52 PM
I had a chat about that....

with some work, flexible axles etc it was suggested a 4' radius for curves would probably do at a pinch. :o
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: jtrnka on September 22, 2010, 10:23:30 PM
I'd love to see this as a running model. :)

What would have to be cut out and removed to add motors and proper wheels? It would probably be quite simple then to cast the appropriate bases for the locomotive and tender.

Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: former user on September 22, 2010, 10:52:52 PM
I'd use only the upper structure and fix the front two axles on bogies
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Bungle on September 23, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
Powering it?

Depends.

tender Drive.... stick a motor in the tender with motive power to all 8 wheels...

New brass chassis to hold the wheels or just brass bearings in the resin maybe.

Loco.... probably a brass or plastic (with brass bearings) chassis... etched brass or N/S rods etc.

If you powered the loco instead of the chassis, you could probably fit a chunky motor in the smoke box.
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Grey 0815 on September 26, 2010, 11:07:47 AM
That's a really nice Loco, but it needs some fitting train cars. Are there any in 1:56 with a fitting wheelbase around?
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: redzed on September 26, 2010, 11:37:57 AM
Are there any in 1:56 with a fitting wheelbase around?
not yet :)

but watch this space ;)
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: abhorsen950 on September 26, 2010, 12:35:01 PM
Very. very nice!
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: potter666 on October 04, 2010, 01:08:02 PM
I for one am truly overwhelmed at the quality-I got mine this morning and have just sat staring at it and finding new bits of details every now and again.
The pics Shaun has posted do no do it justice-Hats off to all involved in this fantastic project.
Now then, anyone else involved almost daunted at the thought of putting it all together and painting it, like I am? :P
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: redzed on October 04, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
Extreme Modelling 19 has a how to on the 1/35 version.

LINK (http://www.xtrememodelling.com/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=30&sort=2a&language=en)
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Michi on October 04, 2010, 08:44:38 PM

Now then, anyone else involved almost daunted at the thought of putting it all together and painting it, like I am? :P


Authentic livery of the actual engine:

http://www.youtube.com/v/hGeIIfSmdYk?fs=1&hl=de_DE
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Calimero on October 04, 2010, 10:34:13 PM

I would like to have one… but, then, I would need a typhoon to blow it up! lol
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: jtrnka on October 05, 2010, 03:45:55 AM
I would like to have one… but, then, I would need a typhoon to blow it up! lol

That can be arranged  ;)
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: eastern barbarian on October 08, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
how much is it by the way?
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: jtrnka on October 09, 2010, 01:39:44 AM
Quote
how much is it by the way?

It's $130.00 CAD plus postage.

Jeff @ JTFM
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: jtrnka on December 29, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
Here are a few pics of a painted version of our baby.

Cheers,

Jeff

(http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/15236956/sn/301036163/name/BR-52a.jpg)

(http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/15236956/sn/819746667/name/BR-52d.jpg)

(http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/15236956/sn/107247538/name/BR-52f.jpg)

(http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/15236956/sn/1888779372/name/BR-52i.jpg)
 
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Michi on December 29, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
That looks really awesome!
Two points that I personally do not appreciate though, if you allow me to remark, are the big wind plates (donīt know the correct Eglish term) beside the smoke box. They do not look the usual way and I feel only a few of the Kriegslokomotiven had these at all. The other are the national markings, because the engines were never owned by the military even though in Wehrmacht service, they remained Reichsbahn and should therefore bear their serial number instead. Please donīt consider thi an offence, I just want to add a bit of history.
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Ramirez Noname on December 29, 2010, 05:51:47 PM
Yeap, that sure is one fine locomotive

for Michi - "smoke deflectors"

Ramirez
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: redzed on December 29, 2010, 07:29:39 PM
Smoke deflectors were used and this version has them.
Swastikas were used extensively above the serial markings, I expect Jeff used the 'cross' instead as it's less aggro.
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: Michi on December 30, 2010, 06:52:48 PM
Smoke deflectors were used and this version has them.
Swastikas were used extensively above the serial markings, I expect Jeff used the 'cross' instead as it's less aggro.

Smoke deflectors, well thanks! Itīs true, you displayed the Austrian made version from WLF judged by those and the distinctive tender. The swastikas were indeed present in an oak leaf crest in the eagleīs claws above the serial number.
Title: Re: BR-52 '28mm' Locomotive
Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 30, 2010, 11:43:59 PM
That looks great with a lick of paint on  :-*

Any chance of a few close up shots to show off the detail a bit more?

cheers

James