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General => Announcements and forum stuff => About Forum => Topic started by: LeadAsbestos on October 23, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
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I don't want to be mean, but every time I click on posts by member Photographer, my computer throws a fit, it takes 20x the normal time for posts to load, and the screen usually freezes up, requiring a re-start! :-[
I've been trying to just not click on posts he started, but every so often, my enthusiasm outweighs my watchfulness. ::)
Block, or just pay more attention? Just what the hell is he doing that no one else does in his posts anyway?
Thanks!
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I don't want to be mean, but every time I click on posts by member Photographer, my computer throws a fit, it takes 20x the normal time for posts to load, and the screen usually freezes up, requiring a re-start! :-[
I've been trying to just not click on posts he started, but every so often, my enthusiasm outweighs my watchfulness. ::)
Block, or just pay more attention? Just what the hell is he doing that no one else does in his posts anyway?
Thanks!
Posting pictures the size of Manhattan at a number equal to its inhabitants. They are very good pictures tough, one of the most fitting names on here. (chairface might take that title, but I have never seen his face)
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(chairface might take that title, but I have never seen his face)
You mean that Chairface doesn't really look like Canada's first prime minister??
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I must admit that I stay away from his posts as the couple I saw took ages to load up, as you say and were not particularly good compositions and out of focus, not to mention the mediocre painting.
I certainly don't mind people posting the stuff they have done as this is one of the best forums for this sort of thing but most of the photos in the post seem pointless.
I don't think blocking is the thing, just maybe a couple of photos expressing the subject matter and then a link to a hosting site that would allow the people interested to have a further look.
cheers
James
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I have the same issue, but with a different poster. While his painting is exquisite, Michi's posts got me banned from Lead Adventure at my old job due to the risque subject matter - and because they weren't labeled 'nekkid wimmen' I had clicked before I realized what I had on the screen.
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Is it possible to have this conversation without singling out particular members?
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Is it possible to have this conversation without singling out particular members?
I agree.
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I have the same problems with a few members but I think it is my old PC that is the problem not the LAF members.
Maby you have an old PC too ;)
cheers Grimm
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Do we really want LAF turning into TMP, with stifles, counter-stifles, blocks, reporting, and all that shlocky drama?
No?
Didn't think so.
For those of you with computers that choke on lots of large photographs, see about adding more RAM to the machine, it's not that expensive and makes a surprisingly large difference. I have an old desktop with a very elderly processor, but it's got 2GB of RAM and even hugely photo-and-Youtube heavy posts don't slow things down noticably.
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I assume that Michi's posts contain 'nekkid wimmin' and am disappointed when they don't! ;D
EDIT for a serious, generalised contribution....
I always thought that the maximum 800x800 pixel size would eliminate really huge data content but it doesn't as images do get through that exceed 300kb. With multiple images this could be a real problem for those NOT on broadband, as it will really eat into bandwidth and also slow down loading of the page. Does the forum software include a facility to, say, restrict images over say 100kb file size to a link only so that the image download becomes a deliberate choice?
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I agree.
Easy fellas! That is why I made it very clear that I'm not against the posters, or their subjects, just how they affect my dinosaur of a computer. I'm dying to see the Penitent man thread, but it will take my system down!
Not name-calling or finger pointing, just trying to solve a problem in an effective way.
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In my game reports, I have postes a lot of pictures, too. But it is because I think the members like to see pictures of games, figures, etc. At least, I love to see them.
It is true that sometimes there are post with a lot of heavy pictures, some of them very similar, but I think it is ok because the spirit is share their hobby with the rest. After all, we can decide to enter or not in the themes.
A good practice perhaps could be to put in the title (lots of pictures) and it would be enough to advert it, without change nothing of the forum.
Edited to correct my bad English >:(
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Do we really want LAF turning into TMP, with stifles, counter-stifles, blocks, reporting, and all that shlocky drama?
No?
Didn't think so.
Couldn't agree more - LAF is one of the most friendliest, welcoming forums ever - lets keep it that way.
I usually post a single pic with a link, as stated above. I figure anyone who's interested will follow a link to find more.
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Many other forums have a "Spoiler" function, it basically puts a box around text/pictures that doesn't appear unless you press the open button. I know at least one forum where the image is not downloaded until then. This would be an ideal solution as those still receiving their internet trough pigeon post and tape computers could load the images one by one, or a few together if their are more in one spoiler.
I have of course no idea how easily this could be implemented in this forum structure, that would make my post actually useful.
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I'm dying to see the Penitent man thread, but it will take my system down!
You want to block him and at the same time want to look at his thread? Sorry, but you aren't making much sense there. You have three options:
1) Stop clicking on his posts.
2) Upgrade your computer.
3) Refuse to learn from your mistakes and continue being confounded as your computer repeatedly crashes.
In my opinion a blocking system is a very bad idea, and not a road we want to go down. I'm totally with Wirelizard on this. We pride ourselves on being civil and friendly here, and such systems elsewhere lead to no end of aggravation, causing more problems than they solve. I also feel they are totally unnecessary, as we have very little in the way of bad behaviour or trolls here. It will be a sad day when the LAF adopts one.
LAFers posting their pictures sensibly is a separate matter, and might warrant some discussion. Posting dozens of very similar (or occasionally almost identical) large-format pictures on a single page isn't really very sensible, but I'd hate us to lose our gallery feel simply because some posters' computers are too old to handle it. I want to see nice big pics, and lots of them. And I want to see them on the LAF, not have to go tramping off to somewhere else unless I really have to. Unlike some forums, we have the ability to post pictures on the LAF, it is silly not to use it. We just need to encourage posters not to go overboard, or at the very least to label their posts "pic heavy." Also you'll find you can reduce the amount of memory a picture takes up considerably with little or no visible difference in picture quality in most photo-editing software. Might be an idea to remind people of this once in a while.
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Having just looked at a recent thread of a certain poster there were nearly twenty pictures on a page, all over 700kb in size (one over 900k). I think that's the cause of the problem. There really is no reason why they need to take up so much memory.
With about twenty seconds in a graphics package I got 705kb down to 67kb, and the photo looks no different to the human eye. Simple! :)
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Do we really want LAF turning into TMP, with stifles, counter-stifles, blocks, reporting, and all that shlocky drama
Not only NO... but HELL NO! >:(
I want to see nice big pics, and lots of them. And I want to see them on the LAF, not have to go tramping off to somewhere else unless I really have to. Unlike some forums, we have the ability to post pictures on the LAF, it is silly not to use it.
Totally agree. Pictures! ;D It's why I come here.
Now, there is a lot of stuff around here I don't like (and I'm not talking just pictures), but its no big deal. That is why you have a roller ball on your mouse. You just scroll right past it.
Personally, when I come to the forum, the first thing I look at is "Show new replies to your posts." I always post on things I find interesting because I know that when I go to this feature on the forum I will return to a thread which I want to follow. Then I go to the "View the most recent posts on the forum" feature and see the last 10 pages of comments/photos posted on the forum. Here is where the old roller ball comes in handy. Most of the stuff is just chit chat that I am not interested in. Roll that ball!!!! If there are photos of things I'm not interested in... Roll that ball!!! I go past it before it even loads. 8)
So folks lets keep things in perspective. If someone wants to babble on and on, or post photos of things you have no interest in... who cares? Just roll that ball! lol Getting personal is not very kewl though.
So... let's keep LAF the civil, awesome place that makes this forum such a joy to participate in. :)
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So... let's keep LAF the civil, awesome place that makes this forum such a joy to participate in.
Too right!!!!! :D
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Having just looked at a recent thread of a certain poster there were nearly twenty pictures on a page, all over 700kb in size (one over 900k). I think that's the cause of the problem. There really is no reason why they need to take up so much memory.
With about twenty seconds in a graphics package I got 705kb down to 67kb, and the photo looks no different to the human eye. Simple! :)
In the past I have noticed that some graphics programs (such as the ones that come free with cameras) will reduce an image size (in pixels) but don't actually reduce the file size (in kb). I found that if I opened, saved and closed the reduced size image in MS Paint then the file size reduced as well.
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Hello all, I agree with the sentiments that blocking individuals is the completely wrong way to go.
I'd also point out that there are several issues raised in this thread that are pertinent; although this thread might actually dissuade some individuals from posting work on LAF. I echo the posts that call for highlighting examples of 'good practice' when posting pictures... suggesting that all individuals reduce the size of images and providing example sizes to techno-phobes ;) e.g. 800x600 or even 640x400 pixels which should reduce the file size and loading times considerably.
One of the things I love about LAF is that it provides an opportunity for painters and scenery builders of all abilities to post work & receive fair and constructive criticism. This is a vital part of the community's spirit which, if absent, I fear would ruin the place we've all come to love.
Just my thoughts, I hope I haven't cause offense to anyone.
Cheers
Andy
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Silent Invader, I forgot to point out that I reduced the file size of the image from 705kb to 67kb without actually reducing the pixel size of the image at all. You can still have big pics without them costing the earth in file sizes.
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EDIT: Thanks Mr P, I did understand that from your post. Meanwhile I was typing out what follows to demonstrate your point. :D
In the past I have noticed that some graphics programs (such as the ones that come free with cameras) will reduce an image size (in pixels) but don't actually reduce the file size (in kb). I found that if I opened, saved and closed the reduced size image in MS Paint then the file size reduced as well.
Just a little demonstration to show that reducing the pixel size won't necessarily reduce the data file size. (Image is mine from the last LPL)
The master image for this demo; sized at 683x566 and 103kb:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/animal_goats_master.jpg)
The master image then opened in MS Paint, reduced to 50% of pixel size, then resaved; sized at 342x283 and 39kb.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/animal_goats_paint-at-50.jpg)
The master image then opened in GIMP, reduced to 50% of pixel size, then resaved; sized at 342x283 and 111kb.
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/animal_goats_gimp-at-50.jpg)
The image already manipulated in GIMP to half pixel size, then opened in MS Paint, saved and closed; sized at 342x283 and 41kb:
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/imagebucket_2006/wargaming/animal_goats_gimp-at-50-then-paint.jpg)
Note that the 50% pixel size copy that was converted using GIMP actually has a larger file size than the master at 100% pixel size!!!
As Mr Plynkes has pointed out, it's not enough to manipulate the image size, the file size needs to be attended to as well.
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Silent Invader, I forgot to point out that I reduced the file size of the image from 705kb to 67kb without actually reducing the pixel size of the image at all. You can still have big pics without them costing the earth in file sizes.
How can we do it? Any links to "how too"?
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Michi's posts got me banned from Lead Adventure at my old job
I´m very sorry to hear that. Please accept my apologies. I do not want to get anybody in trouble, though I admit I never thought about people probably browsing the web at their work. I am not allowed to and thought this to be common practice. There are forum rules that ban porn and such that made me check with Alex before I ever posted pics of nudes. He found it alright, because nudity isn´t porn and there are much better artists who showed a lot of flesh in their paintings already centuries ago. Of course I could stop posting photos of painted females and show only my more conservative work. Another option could be that I will keep in mind to add an adult label to specific future postings. Would you agree?
By the way: Contact Photographer via PM and ask him to shrink his photos a bit if you are bothered. He will perfectly understand the issue, I think...
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How can we do it? Any links to "how too"?
I was typing soemthing out as you posted. See my post above lol
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lol yep, saw that after I posted, thanks
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Another option could be that I will keep in mind to add an adult label to specific future postings. Would you agree?
To my mind, this would actually be the best way. That way, it doesn't stop you from posting so that everyone can see those fleshtones you embarrass us with (how DO you do that?) but not lead to issues for those viewers who can hit the internet at work during lunch hours, but have a Big Brother program in place to track you, it being all big corporation and all.
I never actually thought of asking you to do that, and that...that's embarrassing there.
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... back on topic...
I like to see pictures, lots of pictures. It’s what give me the drive I need to paint figures. I also found that a lot of stuff can be inspiring even though the execution is not perfect. That being said, my computer isn’t particularly recent (it’s a Pentium IV) and I have no real problem navigating LAF. I have a problem getting to a certain German pictures hosting site that some members are using though. I can’t go there (either by using Internet Explorer or Firefox). I’ve "tried too hard" the last time, ended up with a virus and was forced to re-install Windows... lol
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A friendly hint by PM to the people you have in mind to make their images web friendly will help most of the time. If you get no response you can drop a line to the relevant moderator.
Also, I think it is most unkind to deride a fellow member for your opinion on the quality of his/her painting. Try some helpful comment.
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I'm suddenly feeling a little guilty as I'm recalling a thread I posted not so long ago with rather a lot of images - Although no where near as many got taken, I'm editing my way through them at the moment :)
That said I know myself if I am going to be posting a lot of images to make sure to keep sizes down (although size down appears to be a relative term looking at this thread) to try and avoid problems for anyone who wants to look at them - After all the object of the exercise is for people to see them.
Anyways I must get back to the Blam photos, I'll let you know when I'm done... lol
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Having just looked at a recent thread of a certain poster there were nearly twenty pictures on a page, all over 700kb in size (one over 900k). I think that's the cause of the problem. There really is no reason why they need to take up so much memory.
With about twenty seconds in a graphics package I got 705kb down to 67kb, and the photo looks no different to the human eye. Simple! :)
What graphics package do you use?
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It's a package called Corel Photo Paint, which came bundled with a PC I bought about four PCs ago (!). I kept the disc and carried on using it, as I have got rather used to its ins and outs, though doubtless there are much better ones out there now (it dates back to about the year 2000).
Whenever you save an image there is a little slidey compression bar, so you can reduce the file size while saving, complete with a preview window that shows you if the image quality will decline. It is a pretty handy function. I imagine you can do something similar on most of the good modern ones too.
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For all MS Office users, there's a tool called MS Office Picture Manager. A file compression can easily be done with that.
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There's an HP photo editor that's quite good 'HP Photo and Imaging Director'. Can't seem to get the damn thing open now though lol
I used it for the LPL and it was very user friendly (me being the type that if I don't understand it straight away then I won't use it).
cheers
James
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Points taken on board. As a consequence, I set up my own blog with stories and dialogue which I was trying to express by posting the series of photos on this fantastic site.
I am currently deleting most of the photos I have posted on this inspiring site. Don't want to take up storage space!
I know I am a mediocre painter but I never claimed to be in the same league as the people on this forum.
I love the fantastic positive can do spirit on this forum and will continue having fun with this hobby!
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@ Photographer, I can’t say that you’re the best painter around (nor am I for that matter lol ) but your treads do tell stories with their series of pictures and I find it very interesting. I hope you’ll post more of your work 8)
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@ Photographer, I can’t say that you’re the best painter around (nor am I for that matter lol ) but your treads do tell stories with their series of pictures and I find it very interesting. I hope you’ll post more of your work 8)
Of course I'll still post! But in moderation! The photos make sense on this blog with a plot and dialogue! And hopefully some witty dialogue.
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/
PS you can see the penitent man on my blog under American explorerer :)
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There's an HP photo editor that's quite good 'HP Photo and Imaging Director'. Can't seem to get the damn thing open now though lol
What the hell is the problem with that program? I had it on my computer and It worked just fine until one day it decided to ignore all the pictures that came from my camera… I also had to click a thousand time (well, maybe 999 times lol ) on the program’s icon before it start running. Anyhow, I loose my patience and simply removed the whole program from my computer and started using PhotoScape which I got for free on the Internet and it work just fine :)
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If you host your pics @ photobucket there's a resize function that has suggested formats for forums /emails etc, very helpful:)
especially if you're like me and thinks getting the pics out of the camera and online is really work enough lol
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I really do like seeing the pictures, but I do have a problem with so of the over sized ones. If I am veiwing at work the system here times out if the download takes to long and all I get is a blank box with a little X in the corner. I look forward to seeing picture on site as the filters block a lot of the other site links.
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@ photographer, just shrink the pics before you upload or use your host software to reduce them as they are a little big at times.
@ Michi no apologies needed on your wonderfully risque ladies, it's safe to say that forums generally aren't safe for work and besides if you're at work then you shouldn't be putting yourself at risk by logging on.
Generally: I suggest if people don't want to view member's posts they exercise their on regulation and don't click on them.
Keep this place as it's always been...an oasis of miniature bliss, in a sea of bitter custard!
;)
The Commander
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I set up my own blog with stories and dialogue which I was trying to express by posting the series of photos on this fantastic site.
first of all, i'm totally ok with load of photos. my connection is allrite and i have not dinosaur machine (even if 8-years old it still works well).
secondly, i find that some of your photos are quite useless only because you keep the dialogs away, so i just scroll down.
why don't you use a comic creator tool (dunno the name, but there are lots of people using it!) and give more sense to the pics? of course, resizing and compriming them could help, but i would read your threads much happier! ^^
(and i love comics too! )
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That's a good idea. Comic Life would suit Photographer down to the ground.
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For people who use programs like Photoshop, there is a handy tool to save files for web-viewing. Here's a link that explains how it works:
http://www.elated.com/articles/the-save-for-web-feature/
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Top tutorial link there Malebolgia! Thanks.
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Thank you very much Commander, Sing, Herby, Col. and Plynkes!
I have been writing various plots to accompany the photos:Here goes:
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Code%20Red
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Secret%20Agent%20Story%3A%20Live%20and%20Let%20Lead
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Secret%20Agent%3AHaunted%20Norwegian%20Motel%20Part%201
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Going%20undercover%20in%20Akureyri
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Made%20in%20Sweden
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Secret%20Agent%3ANever%20Smile%20at%20a%20Crocodile%20Part%201
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Something%20out%20there%20Part%201
Hope you enjoy!
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again, i seriously think that if you turn those imgs in comics you'll have much more satisfaction, and i will be convinced to read them happily!
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http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Norwegian%20Chalice
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Iceland%20is%20Forever
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Fountain%20of%20Knowledge
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/Cracking%20the%20Code
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Forests%20of%20Finland
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really nice picture but... i want the balloons with their sentences! :P
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really nice picture but... i want the balloons with their sentences! :P
It will ruin the pictures :(
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It will ruin the pictures :(
you could always give it a go.....
:)
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http://double0sven.blogspot.com/2011/01/secret-agentcracking-code.html
http://double0sven.blogspot.com/2010/11/secret-agentnever-smile-at-crocodile.html