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Title: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Arthur on November 22, 2010, 12:48:34 AM
More Indian Mutiny stuff from Mutineer. The mounts are clearly the new Ebob horses. There's something a little odd about the BLC troopers' body proportions, although that may be the pictures.

(http://mutineerminiatures.com/images/stalinIMG_0597%20[640x480]%20420.JPG)

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(http://mutineerminiatures.com/images/IMG_0622%20[640x480].JPG)

(http://mutineerminiatures.com/images/stalinIMG_0579%20[640x480]%20420.JPG)

http://mutineerminiatures.com/ (http://mutineerminiatures.com/)
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Christian on November 22, 2010, 01:28:35 AM
Funny that, I was just looking at a picture of a Probyn's Horse Officer and thinking it would make a great figure. A dismounted version would be nice, too!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: fitterpete on November 22, 2010, 01:32:53 AM
Nice figures if only two months late.I wonder how long it will take them to get to this side of the Atlantic being as the Sikh infantry have still not arrived either.
Nicely done though as are most of the Mutineer figures.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Furt on November 22, 2010, 02:40:08 AM
Funny that, I was just looking at a picture of a Probyn's Horse Officer and thinking it would make a great figure. A dismounted version would be nice, too!

Yup - I love that figure too. Just something so exotic about that poshteen.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: sepoy1857 on November 22, 2010, 10:19:38 AM
Outstanding Brian! Any pics of the Naval Command pack? Just in time for Christmas too!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Captain Blood on November 22, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
Love the riders. So much character. Well done Mr Owen.

But there's something about those Ebob standing / walking horses that is anatomically wrong. I said so when I saw the Empress Zulu War cavalry too...
I hesitate to criticise, because Ebob is generally a sculpting genius of the first order. I have several of his figures and they are all gorgeous.
The galloping horses look great. But those barrel chested standing gee-gees are just not right  :?

Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: cram on November 22, 2010, 11:28:04 AM
really nice work, full of character  :-*
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: the Mutineer on November 22, 2010, 12:50:09 PM
Outstanding Brian! Any pics of the Naval Command pack? Just in time for Christmas too!

not yet still working on them a couple of weeks mike doing them at the moment
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 22, 2010, 06:10:51 PM
I think it all looks fantastic, including the horses.

Anyone have a painting guide for the Naval Brigade?

Also, love the new painted figs, especially the Sikhs. Brian, could you share your color recipe for painting khaki?
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: the Mutineer on November 22, 2010, 09:36:24 PM
The naval brigade guys they would be white trousers white or blue serge tunics, black sennet hats, blue collar black silk
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all cast and ready for sale on the web

the command will be a couple of weeks it's nearly finished

one mounted officer, one foot foficer
two Bosuns with with a special character just wait and see
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: sepoy1857 on November 22, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
Thanks Brian,
BLOODY nice figs. They just keep getting better!!!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 24, 2010, 05:33:51 PM
"with with a special character just wait and see"

Sweet!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Totleben on November 25, 2010, 11:30:36 AM
with with a special character just wait and see

Flashman???
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: HPFlashman on November 25, 2010, 01:11:23 PM
If so, a must have... :D
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Sambeaux on November 25, 2010, 01:51:33 PM
These are very nice.  What rules are best used with these?
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 25, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
Flashman???

In a Naval Brigade command pack?  Flashy is a cavalry man, ain't he?  But I hope you're right!  This range really screams out for "personality packs" in general.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Chairface on November 25, 2010, 04:36:16 PM
In a Naval Brigade command pack?  Flashy is a cavalry man, ain't he?  But I hope you're right!  This range really screams out for "personality packs" in general.

Most of the time, sure. But he's seen his share of infantry and naval fighting, as well as illustrious careers as a diplomat and a slaver, among numerous others. :) So why not the Naval Brigade?
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Plynkes on November 25, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Earlier in the week the Naval command pack was listed on the site, but now it appears to have gone again. It said nothing of Flashy but mentioned something about a bosun with a pet monkey. Maybe that's what he's referring to.  ???
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: the Mutineer on November 25, 2010, 05:33:58 PM
Earlier in the week the Naval command pack was listed on the site, but now it appears to have gone again. It said nothing of Flashy but mentioned something about a bosun with a pet monkey. Maybe that's what he's referring to.  ???

I put the command on the web site and forgot to set the calendar for the release date so next week i'll have masters blacked up, very pleased with them indeed

on personalities we will have two packs  initially generals and famous Indian types such as Rani of Jansi her horse is being sculpted at the moment. I'm open to ideas on personalities  we have not set this in stone. so post your ideas I'll see what I can do, and of course we will do civilians.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: the Mutineer on November 25, 2010, 05:35:51 PM
I put the command on the web site and forgot to set the calendar for the release date so next week i'll have masters blacked up, very pleased with them indeed

on personalities we will have two packs  initially generals and famous Indian types such as Rani of Jansi her horse is being sculpted at the moment. I'm open to ideas on personalities  we have not set this in stone. so post your ideas I'll see what I can do, and of course we will do civilians.

I'm going to try some survey through our constant contact system to get some feedback on the make up of figure packs  A liittle experiment in getting customers involved in developing the range now I have the technology to do so.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: mdomino on November 25, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
Have to agree. The more I look at the horses I realize in the standing pack the one leaning forward looks a bit strange. Overall though, great effort and can't wait til these arrive in the US. Going to be a spendy season.
M
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade...those Gurkhas!
Post by: Happy Wanderer on November 25, 2010, 07:18:41 PM
Brian,

That all sounds great.

I'm going to ask of the group and you in general are we, as Mutineer customers, happy with the Gurkhas?

Whilst they are nicely sculpted figures for mine they are too 'pulpy'

They have beig faces, hands and they 're squat and IMO look nothing like what I perceive a slighter Gurkha to look like. They are heavier and chunkier than the beautiful M Owen sculpted figures in the rest of the range.

Any chance, you would redo these figures as this is a Marquee unit and one I simply can;t bring myself to buying and putting in with the rest of this lovely range.

I offer this a customer feedback only...I think M Owen sculpted Gurkhas would be a great addition to the range. He certainly couldn't;t have done the existing ones.


Eagerly awaiting the next releases.

Regards

Happy W


Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 25, 2010, 07:49:53 PM
"...are we, as Mutineer customers, happy with the Gurkhas?"

The Gurkhas are fine. In fact, I like them. It's a different sculpting style for sure, but they will be in separate units anyway. They paint up quite nicely.

I would much rather see forward progress on the range and the personality packs coming sooner rather than backtracking to redo a pack simply because it doesn't suit some people's personal taste. (No offense, but these things can be a bit subjective.)
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: sepoy1857 on November 26, 2010, 05:33:57 AM
Lardies Sharp Practice for the Indian Mutiny; in last year's Christmas' Cracker Special.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade...those Gurkhas!
Post by: Armchair on November 26, 2010, 08:14:16 AM
I'm going to ask of the group and you in general are we, as Mutineer customers, happy with the Gurkhas?

Not me at all.

If it was 1985 I'd be very pleased with them - But as it is I stand one against one of the Mike Owen Mutineers and weep for what could have been.

 
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Totleben on November 26, 2010, 08:23:57 AM
famous Indian types such as Rani of Jansi her horse
Still better  :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Chairface on November 26, 2010, 02:05:18 PM
Earlier in the week the Naval command pack was listed on the site, but now it appears to have gone again. It said nothing of Flashy but mentioned something about a bosun with a pet monkey. Maybe that's what he's referring to.  ???

Well a Bosun with a monkey would do just fine.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: THE CID on November 26, 2010, 02:18:58 PM
Hi  Having bought most packs of Mutineer figs, I too dont care much for the Gurkhas. The rank and file are OK, but I dont like the officer at all. As there were 2 different regiments of Gurkhas involved in the mutiny. Would it be possible for Mr Owen to sculpt the other one. Then customers could choose, this other regiment could wear the tall cap cover.
By the way, I  think the cavalry are spot on, and cannot wait for more to appear.    THE CID.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: sepoy1857 on November 27, 2010, 03:59:29 AM
Hi  Having bought most packs of Mutineer figs, I too dont care much for the Gurkhas. The rank and file are OK, but I dont like the officer at all. As there were 2 different regiments of Gurkhas involved in the mutiny. Would it be possible for Mr Owen to sculpt the other one. Then customers could choose, this other regiment could wear the tall cap cover.
By the way, I  think the cavalry are spot on, and cannot wait for more to appear.    THE CID.

El Cid: I have to agree with you and Happy Wanderer; I don't care for the other sculptor's work. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to ask Brian to have the code redone. Maybe at some point he could offer an additional pack done by Mike (?). At least Ghurkers are so popular that both packs will likely sell very well.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: the Mutineer on November 27, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
Ok it's on the scuplting plan I surender lol lol lol lol,  It was an experiment went wrong to speed things up, I like Robi's stuff but the style needs to be the same throughout the range.  I, will contact Mike and Put two packs of Gurkhas on the plan, 

we will be launching a new website soon with it's own mutineer forum, and be using more software tools to work with our customers to get feedback and input into the range development.  not to long to go Spring next year, I think we will have all finnished we move onto the next big Mutineer project.

still to come
Gurkhas as mentioned
hyderabad lancers
8th hussars
14th lt dragoons
britsh regular firing line
Britsh airpipe helmet
Mutineer artillery crew
Ghazi warriors
lucknow defenders
Personalities generals
Personalities indian leaders, rani of Jhansi
sappers and mining team assault on kasmir gate
71st highlanders in trews and doublet

our new bastion has arrived absolutely stunning for our delhi wall range
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/bjs1888/DelhiWallBastion1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Furt on November 27, 2010, 10:00:37 AM
WOW!!  :o  :-*
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 27, 2010, 10:29:26 AM
That's an ambitious and appealing list of things to come. One thing I would add would be a pack of civilians for hostage rescue and/or escape scenarios. I'll need to think a bit more about who else I'd like to see other than Flashy, but historical personalities and Lucknow defenders all sound great. He'll, I'll even buy more Gurkhas  ;)
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: THE CID on November 27, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
MR MUTINEER,,,,,,,,,,,,You are the MAN.     THE CID :D
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Happy Wanderer on November 27, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
Ok it's on the sculpting plan I surrender     ,  It was an experiment went wrong to speed things up, I like Robi's stuff but the style needs to be the same throughout the range.  I, will contact Mike and Put two packs of Gurkhas on the plan,
  
Brian,

I think that is a wise choice. I applaud your decision to respond to customer concerns and think you’ll see increased sales based upon it.

Whilst we are talking about the Ghurkhas, one point besides the sculpting of those poses I’d also add. Whilst the Kukri is a signature mark of the Gurkha IMO having 1 figure in 4 wielding a kukri when the rest are advancing, to me, is a bad mix.  Can I request that Mr Owen sculpt four advancing/firing type figures like code EIC 1 or EIC 2. These are far more useful IMO whenyou are using 3-4 packs of the same figures in one unit and 1 in 4 is doing something totally different to the other figures..reminds me of the usless figures in Airfix plastic kits, where at least shear variety and cheapness meant you could thrown them away...not so with 1 in 4 from one figure pack code .


we will be launching a new website soon with it's own mutineer forum, and be using more software tools to work with our customers to get feedback and input into the range development.  not to long to go Spring next year, I think we will have all finished we move onto the next big Mutineer project.

still to come
Gurkhas as mentioned
hyderabad lancers
8th hussars
14th lt dragoons
britsh regular firing line
Britsh airpipe helmet
Mutineer artillery crew
Ghazi warriors
lucknow defenders

I take it the Lucknow defenders will be civilian types? If so then perhaps to get maximum utility out of them Mr Owen could consider the original idea of head swaps and maybe even a couple of different weapons packs of such to provide as much variation as possible...the same figure with a different head and weapon painted differently essentially is a new figure...very useful.

Personalities generals
Personalities indian leaders, rani of Jhansi
sappers and mining team assault on kasmir gate
71st highlanders in trews and doublet


It’s all sounding absolutely ‘the business’. With what’s available and what’s to come, there simply is no other Mutiny range that comes close....you’ve nailed it.

I declare 2011 the year of the Mutiny and The Mutineer!


Cheers

HappyW


Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: sepoy1857 on November 27, 2010, 09:08:55 PM
Ok it's on the scuplting plan I surender lol lol lol lol,  It was an experiment went wrong to speed things up, I like Robi's stuff but the style needs to be the same throughout the range.  I, will contact Mike and Put two packs of Gurkhas on the plan,  

we will be launching a new website soon with it's own mutineer forum, and be using more software tools to work with our customers to get feedback and input into the range development.  not to long to go Spring next year, I think we will have all finnished we move onto the next big Mutineer project.

still to come
Gurkhas as mentioned
hyderabad lancers
8th hussars
14th lt dragoons
britsh regular firing line
Britsh airpipe helmet
Mutineer artillery crew
Ghazi warriors
lucknow defenders
Personalities generals
Personalities indian leaders, rani of Jhansi
sappers and mining team assault on kasmir gate
71st highlanders in trews and doublet

our new bastion has arrived absolutely stunning for our delhi wall range
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/bjs1888/DelhiWallBastion1.jpg)

HOLY Cow! That's quite a list! All sounds good to me especially The Hyderabad Lancers, and the 72nd! Those walls are simply stunning - especially like the Urdu Script on the back - nice touch. I was able to translate it and it says..."Made in SCOT-land" and the other bit says "If you can read this Ferenghi then you are to close" LOL.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: huevans on November 28, 2010, 02:20:27 AM
HW,

Thanks for the response. So far, I have resisted buying the range but have been following it with interest.

My 0.02 - Can we have another pack of figure variants for each of the 2 brit line inf uniform types, short jacket and tunic? 3 variants for each is going to get a little cramped.

And the opportunities for great scenics for this range are unlimited.... and I think untapped by any other manufacturer.

I would probably be more interested in this period for skirmish and personality-driven gaming, rather than conventional wargaming with complete units. If Mutineer chose to take the range in this direction, I would be quite interested.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Happy Wanderer on November 28, 2010, 03:23:48 AM
Hi Huevans,

I certainly agree with you and I think Brian ‘Mutineer’ will be adding to the existing line with the firing poses mentioned above – I’m not sure but I suspect that’s what that pack code is going to be like – I hope so!

I think with this extra pack of firing line figures you get a very nice skirmish line effect that greatly enhances usability for both ‘unit based’ gaming and more single figure based games - I hope he puts one or two loading poses in there. By the shape of the intended releases for this range, and the nature of Mutiny itself, the period is eminently suitable for a massed skirmish  type game such as Lardies Sharp Practice system....scenarios abound and are frankly endless.

Whilst many figures can be added a special unit such as the Belooch Battalion would be lovely to have in the range. They for example are very distinctive in their uniform coat and headdress....dark green turban and jackets and red pants...lovely!

Regards


HappyW



Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Sterling Moose on November 28, 2010, 03:32:53 PM
I'm only dipping my toe into this range as the figures will be used for VSF and Colonial (but not IM).  I'm really pleased with the figures I've bought so far.  With regards to future releases I could really use some Regular British Infantry, and by this I mean straight off the boat types, with pillbox hats, red tunics, Home Service kit etc.  As in Plate A2 of Osprey MAA 67.  My Canadians need some reinforcements for the Fenian Raids and to assist the British in the conquest of Mars!!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: fitterpete on November 28, 2010, 03:50:20 PM
New Ghurkas would be welcome.As well as firing and loading regulars.Don't forget variants for the Sikhs and Highlanders too!
@Sterling Moose
Try the Great War Crimeans in forage cap Moose,it's pretty much a pillbox.I'm mixing my GW and Mutineer for VF too.Mutineer are the Indian Brigade(sent to Lemuria from the subcontinent) and the GW are the Gaurds and Highlanders coming straight from England.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: axabrax on November 28, 2010, 04:30:06 PM
Interesting idea. How do the GW and MM mix?
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: fitterpete on November 28, 2010, 04:51:46 PM
The height is not a problem but some of the MM sculpts have a little more heft if you know what I mean.All I have with me right now are GW Guards and highlanders to compare to MM native infantry and they are a perfect match.However I seem to remember the MM skirmishing regulars as being bulkier and rather hamfisted(sorry mutineer) compared to the GW line.
I've also ordered some Foundry Crimean(Guards and highlanders) and Mutiny(highlanders only) range to see how they look with the rest.I'm thinking they will be a little small with the GW but be very small compaired to the MM.We'll see.
Not mixing them in units only brigades(for Black Powder) so hoping it will all work :)
Anyway sorry for going OT.The new cav look great!
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Sterling Moose on November 29, 2010, 01:04:13 AM
Fitterpete,

Quote
Try the Great War Crimeans in forage cap Moose,it's pretty much a pillbox

Looked at these and the Foundry ones, but the white 'lacing' on the front of the tunics is wrong.  The Foundry IM Brits in pillbox hats are the closest I've found but they come up really diminuative compared with other ranges.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Happy Wanderer on November 29, 2010, 01:09:12 AM
Sterling Moose

I have bought a few packs of Perry Carlist War Brits. Check out the link for comparison

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24232.0

I think in a unit by themselves they will fit the bill unless something better comes along.

Happy Wanderer
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: Sterling Moose on November 29, 2010, 01:18:35 AM
Agreed Mr W, they're on my 'Want' list - no good for the Fenian Raids though.
Title: Re: New Mutineer Cavalry and Naval Brigade
Post by: fitterpete on November 29, 2010, 02:27:47 AM
Ah yeah your right Moose.I was looking at two of the command figures,they don't have the lace.
Are the Foundry IM figs that small? I ordered some highlanders hope they aren't to tiny.