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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: YPU on December 01, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
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Not much info about right now that I can find, but an oficial statement in one of their blog videos and a preview vid from beast of war here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3UEVZWIDHA
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From what I can see in the rather small and moving pictures they are not going to float my boat. :(
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The war machines look pretty good, but if their existing Dwarf range is anything to go by... hmm
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I hear that their dwarfs are a lot better in person, but I agree they dont look al that good in picture at all.
I agree that I am not at all sold on these guys either, Personally I am looking forward to their supposed upcoming ork and/or goblin army, as it should provide cheap alternatives to GW OnG war machines.
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I have never understood the mantic dwarfs.
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Please please please no damn high hats.
Make em look respectable not idiotic.
Grimm
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I have never understood the mantic dwarfs.
Me neither :?
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I love the old GW Chaos Dwarfs, high hats and all! :-* :-* I have a few stored away for Warhammer Quest.
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Couldn't stand the high hat ones, bloody assyrianesque background. Much preferred the earlier full plate ones, lovely.
These are ok ish, but the first dwarves from mantic were pretty naff.
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I love the old GW Chaos Dwarfs, high hats and all! :-* :-* I have a few stored away for Warhammer Quest.
I actually also much like the assyrian look. Oddly enough I also like assyrians for historical gaming. :-X
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I liked both styles (and had a Mortheim Gang of Chaos Dwarfs, many years ago), but I have to say I would prefer more of a "horned helmet evil mini-viking" variety nowadays.
The ones in the video look quite weird - not in a bad way, but I'll certainly prefer to see actual figures first. I had seen the "regular" dwarves in Manchester in August, and while I don't dislike them, they were a bit flat concerning detail, but overall nicely done.
As said, I'll wait what comes out of that.
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I've tried to love Mantic Games' stuff, but I just can't. The elves are pathetically thin, even by elf standards. The Dwarfs have the worst beards I've ever seen. The Undead are actually really nice figures, just a bit on the busy/cartoony side for me. All in all, I can't see this next release being that amazing. Hope I'm wrong!
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I can't really comment on the dwarfs having not seen them in person, and I can see why some wouldn't like the slightly cartoony undead.
I am going to stick my neck out and disagree with you on the elves though Gibby, while you might like fat elves I wouldn't say the mantic ones were pathetically thin, to me they are perfect for 28mm "realistically" proportioned elves.
They are maybe just a touch slimmer than a 28mm athletic female human which I feel just right. Now if you don't like the style of the armour or something that's okay but body size wise they aren't too thin.
Aaanyway...these chaos dwarfs look pretty interesting, especially the warmachines. While they may not be as beautiful as Scibor Miniatures' Moscals no doubt they will be far FAR cheaper so appealing to a different market.
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I guess I was a bit rude saying 'pathetically thin,' I'm just used to a different scale. I don't like fat elves, but the mantic ones have torsos so thin they must be full after a couple of pringles! :)
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Yea I still want a few of their undead for my SoBaH warband, but they come in quantities I have no use for. lol
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Just seen some blurred stills on TGN and now know that these new dwarves are definately not for me, not least because they have spelt chaos with a "k"
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I received my free sprue of two ghouls a couple of weeks ago and I have to say I was really impressed. They didn't look cartoony at all!
I found the GW plastic ghouls to be too small for my liking, and was dissapointed after waiting so long to buy a box.
Overall, I'm not really impressed with Mantic Games but I do like some of their stuff.
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A few weeks? wow, I guess they really did get a lot more interest in that then they had thought. lol But I agree they are rather nice, I would also like a sprue or two more of them, but not much more then that. The same goes for the zombies and skeletons. Pity they specialize in "regiment building" and thus only sell big boxes of miniatures.
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I received my free sprue of two ghouls a couple of weeks ago and I have to say I was really impressed. They didn't look cartoony at all!
I found the GW plastic ghouls to be too small for my liking, and was dissapointed after waiting so long to buy a box.
Overall, I'm not really impressed with Mantic Games but I do like some of their stuff.
Mantic's ghouls are great, the zombies too are pretty good. The skeletons have more of a caricatured evil look about them with sharply raised brows and stuff, like the ones in Army of Darkness, but the ghouls I agree are brilliant and easily their best kit in my opinion.
I would also like a sprue or two more of them, but not much more then that. The same goes for the zombies and skeletons. Pity they specialize in "regiment building" and thus only sell big boxes of miniatures.
Aw come on when are you ever gonna only need 4-5 skeletons/zombies/ghouls for your protagonists to knock out the way. Even Jason and the Argonauts had 7 skeletons so 10 gives you a couple spare.
Certainly for that sort of thing the Soultaker Detachment box is almost right £18 for 20 armoured skeletons and 10 ghouls...just a shame it's not 10 skeletons, 20 ghouls or 10 skeletons, 10 ghouls, 10 zombies.
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True enough, the undead are something one can safely say are useful to have in numbers.
Still I would have loved it if mantic did variety packs, one of each sprue from an army, or something like that.
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These look a bit odd,
Its like others have said,
I find myself desperately wanting to like their stuff, but just not quite being able to
quite sad as I think their ideas are very good.
dodge
ps I dont like their dwarves or the elves
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I don't like fat elves, but the mantic ones have torsos so thin they must be full after a couple of pringles! :)
No, no, no. They are thin because they don't eat Pringles! lol
Still I would have loved it if mantic did variety packs, one of each sprue from an army, or something like that.
I believe Mantic are quite responsive to suggestions like these (look at the Zombie / German collaboration they did for Halloween), so why not email them and suggest it? If they didn't have to make new boxes or cut new sprue moulds, they'd probably do it.
I do agree that I just can't seem to love (or even care much) about the Mantic models... Their sole selling point seems to be that they are "okay and very cheap, so you can buy lots and lots". (That same selling point fails to sell me any Wargames Factory stuff as well). :?
The only Mantic models that I thought were even remotely passable are the Undead ones. And I think that was just because they presented us with something that we were all familiar with and liked. The Elves and Dwarves have been 're-imagined' and I don't think their new image and styling is very good compared to what's out there in other games/backgrounds.
For example, if the Elves had been more feudal-Japan styled, and the Dwarves had looked more industrialised and Western (and lost the stupid beards the Mantic ones have been stuck with), I think the ranges could have looked much better and been more inspired/inspiring.
These new Mantic Chaos Dwarves...? Still not feeling it, sorry. :(
(Oh BTW, I've always liked the big-hat Chaos Dwarves by GW! I also like the new sleeker look though.)
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I like what I see so far!
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Yea I still want a few of their undead for my SoBaH warband, but they come in quantities I have no use for. lol
PM me as I might be able to let you have a few zombie sprues.
The Commander.
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I have about 100 of their undead minis (I should really post pics...) from all the plastic boxed sets. Lovely characterful figures, and a joy to paint. My only complaint was the lack of variation on the ghoul sprues, but making the zombies compatible has solved that problem. I'm looking forward to the release of the Revenant Knights next week.
I'm less keen on the dwarf and elf sets from the pictures I've seen, but if I was planning a dwarf army I'd give the plastics a second look - probably buy a set of 10 and paint up a test unit.
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The mantic website now has more pictures of them up.
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The Mantic blog:
http://www.manticblog.com/?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=873bbf7924-Mantic_Games_Newsletter_68&utm_medium=email
Has some more pictures, the style seems to be a bit more established in these pictures, tough I doubt they will convince any of you. They also have the first pictures of goblins, and those I do like, tough I'm not sure they are what I would call hobgoblins, ah well.
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to be honest, don't like the concept, seems to try to mix both old styles of GW chaos dwarves.
I would say the result is a bit sad, these are two too different styles, find a hibrid to please the followers of each style is quite hard, could be clever in terms of sales, but if you fail you can lose both market targets.
IMHO they would do better trying something on his own way with more personality, at the end of the day is what people likes on the old styles, each one has his own personality.
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"Khaos" Dwarfs... ::)
At least use some imagination, Mantic.
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Unimaginative, unoriginal and very underhand tactic.
However, someone had to do them, I understand the masturbatory act that this probably is for the people at Mantic. It's a result of them all being GW fanboys who have all been waiting for Chaos Dwarfs.
It feels wrong for them to use the concept that GW made years ago though, but had they not done that it probably wouldn't be recieved as well as it will be.
Regardless of that, I think the sculpts are okay, but I still don't like their Dwarves or Skeletons, the elves are okay, but a little too thin for my taste (My favourite elves are AA's old 'Crystal Elves').
In my book, Mantic will always be controversial, but I really don't see them as a 'long term' company with any original ideas.
Khaos Dwarves? That's just plain lazy. Even 'Arse-eeryan' Dwarves would have been more creative.
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You know, the few dwarfs there are pictures of right now give me kind of a vampire feel for some reason, pretty sure there is some bat iconography on some of them. Now that would be... different, a vampire dwarf army. Doesn't save this mantic line tough, not in the least.
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Vampiric Dwarf?
Say no more...
(http://www.stunties.com/wiki/images/thumb/f/fa/AA-Udead-02.jpg/702px-AA-Udead-02.jpg)
(http://www.stunties.com/wiki/images/thumb/2/29/AA-Udead-01.jpg/702px-AA-Udead-01.jpg)
How about Undead Prussian themed dwarves for originality? ;D I absoloutely love the Liche (the guy with the big hat and book).
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lol a vampire dwarf army sounds really fun.
they should be the flying vampire dwarves, otherwise they only reach to bite other dwarves and halfling necks
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lol a vampire dwarf army sounds really fun.
they should be the flying vampire dwarves, otherwise they only reach to bite other dwarves and halfling necks
And that's why you need hordes of Dwarf Zombies, or skeletons. To drag them down to the 'right' height.
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These are only stages in production though, they don't really reflect the end product.
I remember a lot of people commenting on the first stage of mantic's orc, the only pic of their upcoming orcish range, and many don't realise its an early pic and doesn't reflect the end result.
I really like their ranges, for a start they are of a better price than GW which is such a rip of for such effectively cheap to make products its untrue.
They also have imo a better character to them, they feel like fantasy miniatures. They're also, a lot better in form, I find GWs stuff waaay too cartoony in so many of their ranges, the 'heroic' scale 28mm with the immense hands are a bit tiring.
I will definitely be buying some of these once I have completed my Elf, Dwarf and Undead armies that I bought of them!