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Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on September 05, 2007, 08:11:44 PM
Just got from Steve some pics of the new September releases. Awesome ones, love them! Time to continue writing my endless shopping list  :lol:

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/releases/monolith/Monolith_Jeckyll_and_Hyde.jpg)

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/releases/monolith/Monolith_vatican_hitmen.jpg)

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/releases/monolith/Monolith_experimental_subjects.jpg)
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: fatgoblin on September 06, 2007, 06:52:17 AM
very nice!  I esp like the big glove guy for some reason
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Hammers on September 06, 2007, 07:56:15 AM
These are 1/48, no?
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on September 06, 2007, 08:01:52 AM
Quote from: "hammershield"
These are 1/48, no?


no, they are 40mm
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Malamute on September 06, 2007, 08:17:06 AM
Very nice, I ilke them all! :)
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 06, 2007, 09:04:35 AM
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I esp like the big glove guy for some reason


Fatgoblin - It's not apparent on the photo - but those are Hellboy type fists that are emblazoned with crucifixes - sort of using the enemy's weapon against him.........
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: majorsmith on September 06, 2007, 09:25:04 AM
awesome as usual!
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Eisenfaust on September 06, 2007, 11:35:37 AM
They remind me somewhat of the concept art for the Spinespur game, though lower-tech. The first pair of models look like the doctor or professor character who transforms into a beast, and the guy with the big gloves/forearms seems similar to one of their Men of G.O.D., who has these giant cyberglove thingies on.

http://www.comfychairgames.com/drAckron.html

http://www.comfychairgames.com/MOG-1.html

Would be neat to have both sets of figures, provided all the Spinespur ones come out, to do sort of a parallel earths thing with them.
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 06, 2007, 12:14:22 PM
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They remind me somewhat of the concept art for the Spinespur game, though lower-tech. The first pair of models look like the doctor or professor character who transforms into a beast,


Or to put it another way - like Jekyll and Hyde. Although we predate Spinespur by a few years - Jekyll and Hyde have been around for a couple of Hundred years.
The owner of Spinespur has been a member of the Disturbia yahoo group pretty much since it started back in January of 2004 - and had purchased many figures from us

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the guy with the big gloves/forearms seems similar to one of their Men of G.O.D., who has these giant cyberglove thingies on.


I'm sure he could be used like that - but our own influence was more Hellboy - and the fact that we have done some Angels, and need some Human tie-ins.
We used the cyberglove idea ourselves back in 2003 for the ever popular Rampagers - though of course GW used it before us as Power Fists for Space Marines.
I think if you dig deep enough you will find that nothing is original - it's just how well you cloak it!

Anyone got both Spinespur and Disturbia models to compare size?
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: TadPortly on September 06, 2007, 12:25:52 PM
Quote from: "Prof.Witchheimer"
Quote from: "hammershield"
These are 1/48, no?


no, they are 40mm


Damnation, sooo would have loved them in 28mm  :cry:
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: TadPortly on September 06, 2007, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: "Prof.Witchheimer"
Quote from: "hammershield"
These are 1/48, no?


no, they are 40mm


Damnation, sooo would have loved them in 28mm  :cry:
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 07, 2007, 01:24:04 AM
I had a look on the Spinespur site this evening - and they acknowledge Dr Jeckyll as the inspiration (along with Dr Frankenstein) for Dr Ackron
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: fatgoblin on September 07, 2007, 06:51:47 AM
so they are sort of demon hunters?  Mystical power fist, thats a great idea!
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 07, 2007, 11:55:25 AM
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so they are sort of demon hunters? Mystical power fist, thats a great idea!




Yes - hunting Monsters for the Vatican - which is the puppet of the Angels - who are of course a bunch of deceptive liars, and at least as bad as the Monsters they are hunting
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Eisenfaust on September 07, 2007, 08:19:34 PM
Steve,

I tried to be very careful in my post not to imply or allow anyone to infer that I thought there was any copying of inspiration going on. In fact, I rewrote it twice to make it as innocuous as possible.

I've been aware of your company's product for years because Lon at Brigade Games carries your product, and I certainly wasn't accusing you of stealing anyone's ideas.

I didn't mean to offend you, and if I did, I apologize.

Thanks for listening,
Christopher
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 07, 2007, 08:31:58 PM
Hi Christopher - No I certainly didn't take offence - this is a forum to discuss our hobbies - and all we were doing was having a discussion. Just putting my own views froward - from the horse's mouth so to speak
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: supervike on September 10, 2007, 02:14:54 PM
Hmm....

these are tasty indeed!!  Thats one of the best Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hydes I've seen....

Although I've only painted 1 of the Graven Images minis I got from the last batch I ordered, I'm thinking its time to start adding some more!! (egads its a sickness I have~)
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: tbroadwater on September 10, 2007, 03:53:39 PM
wow, I just spent some time on the site and really like what I saw in the disturbia line..great personality and style in the models with a focus on interesting expressions...I love the Voodoo priest and Victorian stlyed  and masked figures.
I have not done 40mm yet? anyone want to share the experience? Any easier or more difficult?
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 10, 2007, 04:05:44 PM
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these are tasty indeed!! Thats one of the best Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hydes I've seen....



Hi Supervike! Hope you are doing well! If you have a look on the Disturbia Yahoo group, there is a 19th Century Jeckyll and Hyde that Jim did about 18 months ago. First pic in the Cliff-Hanger folder

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Although I've only painted 1 of the Graven Images minis I got from the last batch I ordered, I'm thinking its time to start adding some more!! (egads its a sickness I have~)



Yes - but you did a fantastic job on the Cutter - far eerier than our own!
and yes - it is time you ordered again - we have a post free promotion at the moment, as well as 10% off orders over £50 - to celebrate my Birthday!
Get in touch if you are interested, and I can send you the latest listing - anything for such a long standing ambassador of Jim's work!
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 10, 2007, 04:12:06 PM
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wow, I just spent some time on the site and really like what I saw in the disturbia line..great personality and style in the models with a focus on interesting expressions...I love the Voodoo priest and Victorian stlyed and masked figures.
I have not done 40mm yet? anyone want to share the experience? Any easier or more difficult?




Hi Mr Broadwater! Glad you like them - the ones on the site are just the tip of the iceburg - there are probably more than 300 figures not on site yet, but there are pics on the yahoo group if you fancied joining.
From your previous work I know  you'd be most welcome!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JimbowensDisturbia/

As for painting 40mm - I find them easier!
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Captain Blood on September 10, 2007, 06:33:21 PM
Quote from: "Graven Steve"
Glad you like them - the ones on the site are just the tip of the iceburg - there are probably more than 300 figures not on site yet


Steve,

Kind of begs the question why the site is not updated a little more often?  :wink:

I do visit from time to time, but new figures seem to get added very infrequently...

I know time is at a premium, but if you don't get the goods in the shop window...   :(
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: Graven Steve on September 10, 2007, 07:30:31 PM
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Kind of begs the question why the site is not updated a little more often?  

I do visit from time to time, but new figures seem to get added very infrequently...

I know time is at a premium, but if you don't get the goods in the shop window...



I'm not the webmaster, and I wouldn't have the time - in between running Monolith and Graven, designing, painting, casting!
New figures are added several times a month - and the yahoo group is kept fully up to date - it's quite a busy group, and has over 600 members.
The bottom line is that my webmaster wanted somewhere up to £3000 for my next update  (depending on how much I wanted doing - for over 300 figures and 75 new resin models) - and I have better things to spend that kind of money on - However, in the last 2 weeks I have found a new webmaster, who's rates are much better, and I am currently re-photographing all of the Graven ranges in 'Scenic Settings'
I have already done Gotterdammerung and Gotterrustung, and am currently on with Disturbia - so before the end of this month we should be fully up to date
Title: Graven Images September First Release
Post by: fastolfrus on September 10, 2007, 11:11:29 PM
£3000 is a lot of sales to recoup.
If we'd known, someone here would have probably offered their services for less.