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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: cuprum on February 11, 2011, 06:25:28 AM
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Hi!
I'm on my forum posted information on the Bashkir military units in the Civil War. In Russian and English.
Bashkirs - Muslim people who live in the Southern Urals.
In the Russian Civil War military units, formed from the Bashkir, first served on the side of the White Army, but after Kolchak's coup have sided with the Bolsheviks. And White, and Red, they differed excellent fighting qualities and were among the most combat-ready troops. Had their own differences in a uniform.
Read here:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=9
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Outstanding Michael! Thank You.
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Friends!
I want to offer you a new service.
Books from Russia.
Now, I'll sell literature at second hand.
Also suggest that the search and acquisition of Russian books for you.
Buy new editions of wholesale I do not have opportunities, but to find a Russian book store, and send it to you I can.
Books as a result should be cheaper than in European stores.
That's second hand Books (until, of course, a little, but I promise to quickly replenish range):
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/index.php?cPath=42_90&osCsid=9f140a68cb90de045234a50e4e1ff41c
Here you can discuss you're interested in Russian literature and make a request to search for books:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=1&tid=18
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I have the forum translated article "Jaeger brigade German colonists. Armed Forces of Southern Russia. 1919." The article tells about the history, organization and uniforms of German military units in the White Army.
Translate a computer, but given the original Russian version - translation errors you can fix yourself.
(http://i010.radikal.ru/1102/88/91cb487c574a.jpg)
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Very interesting! Up until now I thought the only German units in the Volunteer Army were Volga-Germans from Saratov.
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Any sign of a european distributor of your miniatures or payment via Paypal?
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Alas. Until payment is only possible through "Moneybookers".
Read about it here:
https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=17539471
British payment system, a reliable, it is used on Ebay along with PayPal. Try it - it's inexpensive and not difficult.
Already a lot of European buyers probreli my various products - so far no problems nebylo.
European distributor of me no.
At her forum would lay out articles on the various issues that may be of interest to European military gamers. Now at the bottom built translator Google - now you can translate the text yourself. For questions on Russian uniforms and the war with Russia - contact with the forum. Hopefully, the gamers and the Russian military historians will help you. You can help them to clarify some points in Western history, and war gamers.
I have appeared for sale in the Russian literature of the second hand. I also, at your request, I can purchase and send you a Russian books on topics of interest to you. It turns out much cheaper than to buy from European sellers.
Now I post the article on Caucasian warrior, who fought with the Russian conquest of the Caucasus in XIX century.
In addition, posted the following information:
Basmachis. 1916-42
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=10
Siberian partisans
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=11
Bashkir national formation (Red & White)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=9
Kolchak Siberian militia (police)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=17
Colour of the Polish 41 Suwalski Infantry Regiment 1919-1923
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=8
The Pinsk-Wolyn Volunteer Battalion (russian in the service of Poland)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=22
Chervonny Cossacks (Red Cossacks of Ukraine)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=23
Information is regularly updated.
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My site has a new Russian author of 15 mm miniatures on the Civil War.
Figures have not yet cast, the author fulfills casting technology.
(http://www.imagepost.ru/images/794/IMG_8482_resize.JPG)
More photos here:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=26&tid=29
Do not forget to use a translator "Google" - button at the bottom of the page.
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See a compilation of information on the sailors in the army of Kolchak:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=38&fid=12&block=0
(http://www.kolchakiya.narod.ru./uniformology/general_themes/navy_corps05.jpg)
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Excellent!
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I've posted a new article on uniform CHEKISTS in 1922-1934
(http://i043.radikal.ru/1108/ef/768300f0ec62.jpg)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showforum.php?fid=12
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I have a forum a new article: "Bukhara Red Army. 1922-1924."
(http://s004.radikal.ru/i206/1108/1c/1fbb680c70c5.jpg)
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A new article in "The Civil War in Russia" - the People's Revolutionary Army of the Far Eastern Republic:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showforum.php?fid=12
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(http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/4995/69451137.jpg)
New topics in the forum:
- Banners of Red Army
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=94
- Communist troops internal service (ChON)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=35
- Estonian Red Army in 1919
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=95
- Greek forces in Southern Russia, 1919
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=93
- SIBERIAN ARMY (white). 1918
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=52
- Komuch PEOPLE'S ARMY. 1918.
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=90
- Cinema hall - about the Civil War in Russia
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=70
- The Pinsk-Wolyn Volunteer Battalion
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=22
And also a lot of information on other periods of history.
In particular, I recommend an extensive selection of drawings, reconstructions of famous Russian historian Mikhail Gorelik:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=28&tid=45
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Michael
Magnificent!
Many thanks
Steve
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Some nice stuff there, though I have to admit I blanch at the copyright issues. (Especially when it is my stuff being nicked!)
One detail: in http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=52 you have the "Convoy Pepelyaev". This should be "Pepelyaev's bodyguard".
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Thank you for pointing out the error. Alas, I do not speak English and forced to use a translator "Google". Sometimes it is very strange texts :-)
Information that I post on their forum, I take from journal articles and public sources on the Internet. I always try to specify the source of initial information and the authors (of course if they are known to myself).
No commercial use of this information, I have not.
If you believe that I violated someone's copyright - provide for those violations, and I'll delete the texts or images.
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(http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1111/48/ec533ca34cb2.jpg)
A small article on the Red Aviation:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=100&fid=12&block=0
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I decided to supplement their collection figures from the history of the Civil War in my hometown.
Work has begun on the first detachment - a detachment of Red Guards from Barnaul railway workshops.
Then it will be red Hungarian internationalist, the Red Guards of the mining towns that participated in these battles.
On the part of the White - Czech legionaries units, Siberian volunteers and Barnaul white rebels.
(http://s008.radikal.ru/i305/1111/40/3d1342e13614.jpg)
Details here: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=22&tid=102
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Lovely, cuprum. I really like the article on the Rad Air fleet to.
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Yeah, I must say that I also enjoyed that article! Keep up the great work, cuprum! :)
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Little information on the Soviet-Polish war and a Polish uniform (in Russian - do not forget to use a translator Google). Questions, comments and additions can be written in English. ;)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=108
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=110
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Thanks for sharing, the second link was really interesting and one of the reasons why the Polish-Bolshevik was is so much fun from a modelin/collectingg perspective. So many different uniforms and headwear within one and the same army. Hastily put together units of veterans from all the various countries where the Poles served during WW1 and it shows on the uniforms.
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Fabulous. You are an inspiration!
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I decided to supplement their collection figures from the history of the Civil War in my hometown.
Work has begun on the first detachment - a detachment of Red Guards from Barnaul railway workshops.
Then it will be red Hungarian internationalist, the Red Guards of the mining towns that participated in these battles.
On the part of the White - Czech legionaries units, Siberian volunteers and Barnaul white rebels.
(http://s008.radikal.ru/i305/1111/40/3d1342e13614.jpg)
Details here: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=22&tid=102
VERY Nice! Looking forward to these!
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Thank you!
And I thought that this topic nobody cares
To be continued ...
(http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/1112/99/ba530f2421d8.jpg)
Railwayman - lineman. Wearing a uniform cap and tarpaulin raincoat.
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Thank you!
And I thought that this topic nobody cares
To be continued ...
Oh but we do! Keep up the great work
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Great conversions and very nice painting! Can't wait to see more of these.
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Made on its forum table of contents to help navigate the topic on the subject of the Russian Civil War. Over time, should get a good guide.
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=185
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Made on its forum table of contents to help navigate the topic on the subject of the Russian Civil War.
Excellent, Cuprum :) I shall often look at it.
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Our colleague Stefano sent me yesterday a foto painted Basmachi.
(http://s006.radikal.ru/i214/1212/22/00268ceeb98f.jpg)
More photos here:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=321&fid=25&block=0
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They're really rather nice chap
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like them a lot :)
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love the little mountain gun and crew!
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I prepared a small survey on the composition, organization, uniforms and weapons for the army of the Emir of Bukhara Bukhara during the storming of the Red Army in 1920.
Alas - the text in Russian ;D
To read use the translator "Google".
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=12&tid=115&block=60
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1307/26/5603b4fca1c0.jpg)
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Cuprum,
Thnaks very much for the info. I am busy with google translator now.
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We say thank you to our colleague TS. He produced a translation of my article into English. Translation is placed next post.
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Stefano again sent to me pictures painted Basmachi. Now it is dismounted figures.
(http://s002.radikal.ru/i200/1309/75/6009dafd5d09.jpg)
More photos here:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=321&fid=25&block=0
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Followed in my forum, a new category - Uniform plates for painting figures.
In this topic, I'll lay out the plates for painting and conversion figures. Reconstructing the uniforms will be made from the photographs and memoirs of eyewitnesses.
I ask here: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=22&tid=349
The next tablet will be on the topic of 25th Division of the Red Army (Chapaev).
(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1311/17/779f0fd8816e.jpg)
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Nice colourful band of basmachis.Also on my to do list.
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Is ready table on the 25th Chapayev Division Reds. The division fought against the Czech Corps and Kolchak in Siberia, participated in the Soviet-Polish war of 1920, fought with the rebels in the Ukraine in 1921.
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/article_info.php?articles_id=2
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Brilliant figures! Brilliant posts! Just...brilliant......
S
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Oh wow! These plates are amazing! Would you mind doing English versions of the graphics as well? That way we could have all the info on one picture.
I definitely need to paint some miniatures for the 224 Krasnokutsky Rifle Regiment! :)
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Thank you for your words.
Surprisingly, until now there is no research examines in detail the uniforms of the warring sides in the Civil War ... There are's "Kolchakia," but there only white armies only Siberia and the Far East ... By the Red and nationalists practically nothing.
Where possible I will correct this situation.
We now with our colleague T.S. translation of Article about the 25th Division into English. Soon it will be available for reading.
The next plate will I do by the 24th Iron Division Red.
Remington, red uniforms Krasnokutsk regiment is suitable only for the period of the Soviet-Polish war.
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Oh, right... Didn't realise that! Thank you.
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Work on colored plates continues.
Information for the full article is not yet enough, but there are intermediate solutions with interesting enough uniforms:
- Uhlans 24th Iron Division Guy-Khan (Reds, Eastern Front, 1918)
- Personal escort Commander Muravev (Reds, Ukraine & Eastern Front, 1918)
- M. Tukhachevsky (Red military chief)
- Soldiers of the 1st Army of the Eastern Front (Red Army, 1918)
- Partisan (peasant) army of the Tambov region (Antonov, anti-Bolshevik rebels, 1920-21).
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=22&tid=349&block=0
(http://s006.radikal.ru/i214/1404/39/e98e47906461.png)
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:o Very impressive, Cuprum!
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Impressive and a historically significant contribution to research in the west on these subjects. Hats off Cuprum, total respect.
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Thank you for your appreciation of my humble efforts :D
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Thankyou for your hard work,lot of great information that is hard to get,beautiful plates.
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Thank you for your appreciation of my humble efforts :D
These are brilliant! Thank You Sir.
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A new table is ready by uniforms 1st Ukrainian Soviet divisions (the legendary commander Nikolai Shchors). The division into different periods fought against the Germans, Ukrainian Nationalists (Petljura), against Denikin and Makhno.
(http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1504/e3/24dfc58b20cc.jpg)
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?fid=22&tid=349&block=20
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This is a great thread - thanks for sharing all your information!
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Excellent! :)
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What a resource! :o
Thank you cuprum!
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Another excellent contribution!
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Thanks Cuprum. You are a goldmine for us lazy buggers :)
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Added plate on the topic of the Ural Army Reds in 1918. This army, under the command of the future Soviet Marshal V.K. Blucher walked with fights on rears whites 1500 kilometers. Cavalry Regiments of this army consisted of a Orenburg Cossacks.
(http://s020.radikal.ru/i703/1505/66/96c310ebf44e.jpg)
Read more here, but in Russian (use the Google translator for reading): http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=349&fid=22&block=20
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How did I miss this - great stuff!
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OUTSTANDING! Thanks. :)
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It is GREAT!
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The legendary White General - Yakov Slashchov.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Slashchov
(http://s47.radikal.ru/i117/1505/22/ed76c66dea3a.jpg)
Large image and sources of information - on my forum and in Russian:
http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=349&fid=22&block=20
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Your brilliance shines like a star in the night sky! Thanks again for this marvellous information so excellently presented.
Mike B
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Thank you for your high appreciation of my humble work.
Surprisingly, it until now the theme of uniforms Russian Civil War investigated very few...
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Thank You! These are excellent, and I'm saving them in my Civil War files for painting reference! Outstanding work. I think these would make an excellent book Cuprum!
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If you will to make figure General Slashchov, then you need to add the figure of the white parrot in his shoulder.. The general was a very eccentric person and very fond of birds ... With its parrot, he almost never parted.
The book :) Maybe someday ...
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I rather want a figure of Orderly (Cadet) Nina Nikolayevna Nechvolodov to her General. She is a brave character, following her husband, the General Slashchev, in both war and peace - and it seems also in death, seemingly both executed by Stalin.
Let us see, if Dmitry can come up with some ideas for some figures of Orderly Nina and her general.
Here are some real life episodes with Orderly Nina and her general.
The seizure of the Height of "71" seems almost like an anecdote, but is documented by facts.
Slashchev had fulfilled his promise to the officers of the regiment - to bring vodka for the regimental holiday:
"Celebratory revelry was in full swing, when he decided to use the window of opportunity in the mood of the regiment and get the unit to perform an impossible task under normal conditions ...
The front of our position had been occupied by the enemy on Height "71", from where the Reds dominated the whole area ... Repeated attempts to master it ended up in failure.
And Slashchev turned to the regiment: "I have fulfilled my promise ... Now you promise to do my will!" The regiment swore an oath to fulfil all the orders of the General. "So open the other barrel of vodka, but on the Height "71”.
The regiment shouted a unanimous "Hurrah!"
Led by Slashchev, who was followed by "Orderly Nikita", was launched an attack on the Height, and this time, without particularly large losses, the regiment knocked out its stunned opponent and continued going on ... "
Originally Slashchev and Chongarsky mastered the causeway through Siwash - in an open loose “fashion show” up to 2 miles away. In the middle was a bridge. On one side of it were entrenched the Reds, on the other – were the Whites.
To defend their side, the Reds had put up guns and machine guns ...
Slashchev called this a "a draft", a fashion show and considered it necessary to master both sides.
But the attack failed.
Then one day (March 22, 1920) Slashchev gathered the commanders of his units, inviting them to a "master show".
In turn all the commanders reported that they did not find it possible to lead the men entrusted to them to a certain death.
"Well, in that case, I'll attack the enemy and take it!", Slashchev said and ordered "Orderly Nikita" to convey the order, to the Commander of the Constantin Military Academy, to "immediately come to the position with cadets of the Academy and its music corps."
When they arrived and were encouraged with a few words, Slashchev himself led the 250-300 Cadets to the bridge – marching - just as on ceremonial parade - in column to the sound of the orchestra, all in step,. With General Slashchev and Orderly Nikita in front, the Cadets passed over the bridge and rushed to attack the enemy - who threw down their guns, not even trying to shoot!
Now – same episode in the words of the General:
"Telling the armoured train to concentrate fire on the red line, I sent an Adjutant, Staff-Captain Shebek and Orderly Nechvolodov (Slashchev's wife) to convey the order to move the lines on to the causeway. Less than ten minutes later, came a report that the Staff-Captain was killed, Orderly Nechvolodov wounded and the line of the 13th Division was under concentrated fire from the Reds firing from behind their lines... .
We had to use the last resort, which had always rescued us so far, this tool was – the personal example set by the leader. So I ordered the cadets to form into column with officers to the front and march to the causeway bridge...
The battalion went on the causeway. I could not help thinking, it would suffice just with a Red machine gun and a gun, but one does not flicker, you sweep all such away, but so is the power of a nervous shock. Possible to numb anybody."
At the head of the cadets led a wounded woman and a general barely recovered from his several wounds!
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For the sake of objectivity, I must say that this is not a complete image of the General. Slashchov was a cocaine addict, was distinguished bestial cruelty to prisoners of war.
Therefore, in the murder his by Stalin I do not believe. Slashchov taught in a Soviet military academy, and was killed by his student - the red commander. The brother of this a student was executed during the Civil War on the orders of General Slashchov. I think it was the usual revenge.
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:o :o Reading these things are why I find the Russian Revolution (and the Back of Beyond) so fascinating and poignant! Just when you start to view things as good/evil it is revealed the essential greyness of everyone involved. TS can you give and English reference? Many thanks!
LB
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It is informations from some Russian pages, mainly
http://www.gipanis.ru/?level=802&type=page
General Slashchev was cashired from Wrangels Army, both for quarrelling with Wrangel, whom he seems to have considered idiot, but also for being involved in progroms against local Jews.
After being cashiered, Slashchev tried his hand on raising turkeys and fowls in Constantinoble, with no luck. After that experience he went into Soviet service as a military teacher. His death is considered rather suspicious and how and when his wife died is unknown.
Cocaine use then was not considered criminal, likewise the heavy vodka drinking in the Russian Army then was considered part of the job. And for instance English girls openly and proudly sent cocaine to their boyfriends in the trenches.
Fighting a civil war is not for choir boys, but whatever, I like the General's personal uniform creativity.
If he was a little mad, so are most in high places.
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Where to disappeared Nina Nechvolodova really is not precisely known.
But there is research of the Crimean regional ethnographer Ilsur Zinnatullin on this topic.
Nina Nechvolodova in the USSR, the headed of theater studio, starred to the movies and also wrote to scenarios for movies. Zinnatullin believes that latest book Nechvolodova was published in the fifties...
http://www.odnako.org/blogs/teni-proshlogo-ordinarec-nechvolodov/