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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: wolfgangbrooks on February 16, 2011, 09:15:34 AM
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Got these back from the caster a couple of days ago. They should be released sometime later this month or early next month.
http://leadbones.blogspot.com/2011/02/civilian-masters.html
Sculpted by Brian Cooke
I've also spent some time recently making comparison photos of various lines next to our own range. Check the blog for a couple of new zombie comparisons that haven't made it to the website just yet.
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/lbcomparison.html
Let me know what you think.
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Now those should be very useful indeed.
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Most of my moderns are Eureka or Empress, so these might be alittle big, which is a pity because they look like really nice minis. Nice to see a manufacturer posting pics that show size, thats always to be commended.
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Great stuff! Look forward to the comparison shot :)
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did i read that ruler correctly, are those tall men 35mm to the eye?
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did i read that ruler correctly, are those tall men 35mm to the eye?
They seem more <30 to the eye!
Interesting stuff.
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an interesting and useful range of minis, BUT, I wouldn't buy any, based upon the photos you've posted on your blog - even with a measure in the photo, it is really unclear how tall the minis really are, due to the angle of the photos.
Take some better photos, and you might get more biz.
;)
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Don't mind if they are quite tall. I'll certainly be able to use them in skirmish games with my other assorted modern/near future stuff. Height and build are rarely a problem for me -I prefer to see realistic variations - it's just the differences you get in weapon sizes that gives me a problem :D
Any UK distributors lined up? Also, are there any plans for more scifi-looking civvies?
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Don't mind if they are quite tall.
Neither do I, but if you call something "28mm", and one of the photos looks more like 35mm, then thats the equivalent of someone being 7'6" tall....a bit more than "quite"
Better photos, and some comparison shots with other modern manufacturers would definitely help sales IMHO.
:)
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Most of my moderns are Eureka or Empress, so these might be alittle big, which is a pity because they look like really nice minis. Nice to see a manufacturer posting pics that show size, thats always to be commended.
I would've said they were both of a size, given the much thinner base on the Eureka figure.
They look like nice clean castings and well sculpted imo, but as Akula says, take some time getting your comparison photos spot on and at a better angle and I'm sure you'll reap the benefit from them.
:)
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They're looking good and personally I think for civilians the scale is not really that important. Some better pictures of the arm sprues would be nice though to see the options 8)
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Neither do I, but if you call something "28mm", and one of the photos looks more like 35mm, then thats the equivalent of someone being 7'6" tall....a bit more than "quite"
Better photos, and some comparison shots with other modern manufacturers would definitely help sales IMHO.
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Fair point and as usual with figure height/build it's each to his/her own :)
It would be unusual but not impossible to find 7.6" or taller people as well as 5' or smaller. We all know skinny little racing-snakes and those who are nearly as wide as they are tall, but as you say, accurate descriptions are very useful when planning purchases.
Whatever - I want 'em ;D
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I like that you give the option for creating both unarmed and weapon toting versions of the figures. Good sculpts of unarmed civilians are kind of rare and just what I am looking for for my alien invasion and zombie outbreak scenarios. Now if someone would do some good EMTs (hint hint) I'd be all set!
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Need to see them with other ranges in comparison as has been mentioned previously, although judging from the ruler and others observations...too big for my table.
The Commander
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Well the comparison shots do make them look reasonable compatible. So I suspect I'll be up for some of those.
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Thanks for the comments. These have received a surprising amount of attention.
did i read that ruler correctly, are those tall men 35mm to the eye?
The B-ball player is 33mm to the eye, and the skater and business guy are 30.5mm to the eyes. The rest are around 28mm. I understand the camera angle adds a little (I can't really push it into the table. :) ) and the bases are 1mm to 1.5mm thick.
Brian decided to go unusually tall for a couple of these guys, which was a little surprising, but I like the height variation he's done with our line.
Any UK distributors lined up? Also, are there any plans for more scifi-looking civvies?
No distributors yet, I think we might have talked to Tiger at one point about carrying our line over there, but nothing definite. I really want to do sci-fi stuff, so if these guys go over well it shouldn't be too long before we get some of them started.
I would've said they were both of a size, given the much thinner base on the Eureka figure.
They look like nice clean castings and well sculpted imo, but as Akula says, take some time getting your comparison photos spot on and at a better angle and I'm sure you'll reap the benefit from them.
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Nicolas and the Eureka marine are the same height as you say. I've been planning on doing photos for a comparison website in the future either with Mississinewa's height gauge or a 10mm grid. I guess I get your concerns about the comparison pictures, but my issues with compatibility always stems from proportion, a few mms never seem to matter as long as it's in the close neighborhood. :)
They're looking good and personally I think for civilians the scale is not really that important. Some better pictures of the arm sprues would be nice though to see the options 8)
Hhhmm... I've made two sets up, one with each option. I'll take a couple of shots before I basecoat them tonight.
Now if someone would do some good EMTs (hint hint) I'd be all set!
I believe we have that on our list of things to be made somewhere.
Need to see them with other ranges in comparison as has been mentioned previously, although judging from the ruler and others observations...too big for my table.
I'm curious as to which manufacturer(s) you are using, I've always considered our figures to be on the small end of 28mm.
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Considering some comments here and on TMP, I've got a couple of questions for you guys (and gals?):
1)Whose figures would you like to see our stuff compared to? We've got a few of the bigger manufacturers already, and I have Cold War, Zombie Smith, Copplestone, and Armorcast's Tactical Miniatures either in hand or on the way. (actually, the Tactical Minis cops disappeared when I was going to start taking comparison shots, it's only a matter of time before I find them again)
Obviously I have to pay for them myself, which has not been inexpensive so far, so I'd like to know who you really need to see them up against and maybe help me pick up new lines I can say they are compatible with.
2)Sci-fi Civilians. I want to make some and I know the interest is out there. However there are a lot of styles I can go with. Appleseed/GitS type, goofy pulp type, gothic gritty type, 1800's style whigs and lace cyborgs, and so on. I'd love to do all of that and more, but there's only so much money in the kitty and I'm not much of a technically skilled sculptor yet. So I'd love to see suggestions and "needs".
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I could see myself getting them just for the smaller ones and tossing the tall one in the parts box.
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Sci-fi Civilians. I want to make some and I know the interest is out there. However there are a lot of styles I can go with. Appleseed/GitS type, goofy pulp type, gothic gritty type, 1800's style whigs and lace cyborgs, and so on. I'd love to do all of that and more, but there's only so much money in the kitty and I'm not much of a technically skilled sculptor yet. So I'd love to see suggestions and "needs".
I do have some pulp sci fi stuff but most of what I play comes from the Traveller style universe if that helps
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Well the comparison shots do make them look reasonable compatible. So I suspect I'll be up for some of those.
There are no comparison shots of the civilians bud, that's what I looking for, hopefully they'll do some.
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There are no comparison shots of the civilians bud, that's what I looking for, hopefully they'll do some.
If it helps, the non-tall ones are the same size as Nicolas in the comparison photos.
I could see myself getting them just for the smaller ones and tossing the tall one in the parts box.
No need, we'll be selling singles.
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Obvious gaps to me in the present day/near future market are first response types like firemen and paramedics, unless I've missed them somewhere. I do like the option of having the figures armed or unarmed btw, that's a nice touch!
My vote would be for them to fit in with Eureka/Mongrel/Hasslefree etc at the smaller end of the 28mm spectrum. I think you'll struggle to make everyone happy when it comes to size though. Having said that, not everyone is really that fussy about figure size either so...
I do get what you mean about proportion versus size though and yes, to me a couple of mm either way is no big deal either, but obviously there's some ranges of figures that will never look right together to me. I could just be too picky though. ;)
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I would like to see some photographs of your new modern civies put together and standing next to your zombies please...
Darkoath
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Nice minis.
As stated earlier, better shots are needed though. For the camera angle problem, just raise the minis on books or something, covered with the same blue paper, to the desired height. And don't hide the ruler marks.
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I like the look of them, and the arming options. I don't like that 3 of them are so tall, the one bball player would have been fine. I do like what appears to be an overweight woman figure. You don't see much for females outside of the 'busty heroine' option.
I may grab these if the price is right.
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I've just put them up on our webstore, and I'll be adding some new pics and comparisons when I get them painted. Right now I've added shots of them assembled with each arm option.
Packs are available here: (one of each, and two of each with one set of arm sprues)
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/leadbones.html
Singles are available here:
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/lbscivilsingle.html
We have five extra sets of arm sprues at present. We are going to sell them them as sets for $8 USD each. Contact richard at recreational conflict dot com if you are interested.