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Title: Cork bark in UK
Post by: James Morris on February 18, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Chaps,

I am about to embark on some large rocky outcrops and ambas for my Ethiopian terrain and was wondering if anyone had found a good online supplier of cork bark?  Or am I better off just going down the model shop and buying 10 pieces from Javis?

Any help gratefully received!
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Silent Invader on February 18, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
If I recollect correctly, Captain Blood has previously commented on the vast quantities of cork retailed by 4D Model Shop of London Town.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Commander Vyper on February 18, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
Chaps,

I am about to embark on some large rocky outcrops and ambas for my Ethiopian terrain and was wondering if anyone had found a good online supplier of cork bark?  Or am I better off just going down the model shop and buying 10 pieces from Javis?

Any help gratefully received!

Any decent petshop with reptiles or fish should have cork bark for sale.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Phil Robinson on February 18, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Also try local garden centres, some of them do dried and artifical flowers and assessories inc. cork bark, its usually a lot cheaper too.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Captain Blood on February 18, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
4d modelshop, just round the corner from the Tower of London. Bulk bags of the stuff for £10 a time. You won't find better than that online for vivaria, orchids, or railway modelling.
A one kg bag for a tenner, gets you several large pieces and some smaller bits and pieces too. Most internet retailers will charge you that for a single large piece.

Alternatively, take a family holiday to the Western Algarve, where 60% of the world's supply of cork comes from, and they have great forests of the stuff covering the mountains. You can pick it up for free from the side of the road. Probably illegal, but it doesn't weigh much - you can pack a lot in your suitcase  :D
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: AKULA on February 18, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
Yup, garden centres with aquariums, or railway model shops will be a damn sight cheaper than online sites.....

and 4D does some lovely other stuff........

 8)
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Mr.J on February 19, 2011, 02:26:34 AM
I got a huge chunk from an exotic animals store reasonably cheaply. Most pet shops should do it.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: James Morris on February 20, 2011, 09:43:35 AM
Thank you all - that's really useful.  Very impressed with the 4d website, not come across them before.  I may have to get an order in!

Cheers

James
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Captain Blood on February 20, 2011, 02:41:24 PM
They're an architectural model maker's suppliers really, but they have plenty of seriously useful stuff for anyone who likes modeling or crafts. If you're ever in London with an hour to kill, the shop is very well worth a visit. The stuff they carry there is mind boggling - specialist tools, paints, sheet materials etc. Fabulous.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Antenociti on February 22, 2011, 01:13:36 PM
we have cork bark in sizes up to 2-3 foot long at £10 a kilo.... it isnt on the wbsite yet as we've not worked out how to list it, every piece is a different size, shape and weight.

Much cheaper than javis (or vivarium sellers etc) as we buy directly from source by the pallet-load...same place as 4D buy from I imagine.

give us a ring or email with a preferrred size/shape and we can dig through to find a single piece as close as possible to what you want.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: meninobesta on February 22, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
Alternatively, take a family holiday to the Western Algarve, where 60% of the world's supply of cork comes from, and they have great forests of the stuff covering the mountains. You can pick it up for free from the side of the road. Probably illegal, but it doesn't weigh much - you can pack a lot in your suitcase  :D

If you just pick enough for a table nobody would hassle you!  :)
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Captain Blood on February 22, 2011, 05:46:39 PM
That's nice to know! I would never take it off trees - only where old trees have fallen by the side of the road. I must admit that's where I got the bark for my Zulu War donga... The only trouble was it was infested with ants and it took the devil's own job to get rid of them...  :)

That and the family moaning about me stopping the car and leaping out at the side of the road every time I spotted a fallen cork tree   :D

Still, large slabs of free cork are not to be sniffed at   ;)

Obrigado  :)
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Antenociti on February 23, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
Portuguese cork is harder and more durable than the cheaper Spanish Cork also - its MUCH better for wargame scenery and modelling purposes, which is why we only ever have used Portuguese cork, mostly from the Algarve and some from Alentejo . Spanish cork tends to be relatively soft and crumble, bits flake of it whole, or when granularised.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: James Morris on February 24, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
They're an architectural model maker's suppliers really, but they have plenty of seriously useful stuff for anyone who likes modeling or crafts. If you're ever in London with an hour to kill, the shop is very well worth a visit. The stuff they carry there is mind boggling - specialist tools, paints, sheet materials etc. Fabulous.


Yes, it looks quite amazing.  I may drop in if I happy to be in London at some point.

Anyway, given that I also needed styrofoam and I didn't fancy chasing around reptile shops and insulation merchants this week (not with a 15-month old daughter in tow, anyway), I put in an online order with 4d and have just received the parcel.  Cork bark 1kg looks like it has around 15-20 good-sized pieces in it - fair value for 18 quid, I feel.

Cheers again for the tip.  Now off to build some ambas...
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: James Morris on February 24, 2011, 02:22:26 PM
we have cork bark in sizes up to 2-3 foot long at £10 a kilo.... it isnt on the wbsite yet as we've not worked out how to list it, every piece is a different size, shape and weight.

Much cheaper than javis (or vivarium sellers etc) as we buy directly from source by the pallet-load...same place as 4D buy from I imagine.

give us a ring or email with a preferrred size/shape and we can dig through to find a single piece as close as possible to what you want.

Thanks for the offer - sorry I saw the message too late, had already ordered from 4d.  Another time perhaps.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Antenociti on February 24, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
yeah, no worries.

I'm still not sure how to package and sell it... I know somep people want whole pieces, so I dont want to break it down into smaller sections...but then that means no piece is ever the same weight or size, so it makes it extremely hard to put it on the shopping cart...
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Captain Blood on February 24, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
Yes, tricky... Guess the best way is to sell it by approximate weight, e.g. A 1kg or 0.5kg bag, give or take 25g. I cant personally think of how I'd use big long pieces of it - for 28mm cliffs, you're always going to need to cut it across the grain of the 'rock face' into pieces which are between 20mm and max, what, 150mm high? So length 'along the grain' as it were, is probably not all that important. Personally, I'd always go for a bag with lots of small to medium pieces, because it's likely to be more versatile and save on a lot of sawing!  ;)
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Dewbakuk on February 27, 2011, 08:50:38 AM
Approx weight is probably best. Is coverag feasible? Only reason I ask is that I want to make two 24" long by 18" high cliff sections but have no idea what it would take to cover that.
Title: Re: Cork bark in UK
Post by: Antenociti on March 01, 2011, 09:10:14 PM
i dont think so... too much of a PITA to try to work out the coverage, uneven pieces and so forth.

I think i will put it up at a per-kilo price, then if anybody wants a certian size or area they can ring up and we will ahve a dig in the crate for a suitable piece... really cant think of a better way of doing it tbh.