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Title: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 05, 2011, 07:13:16 PM

Hi everyone!
I hope it is not considered MultiPost, but i did some experiments on a MDF piece to make a simple and fast version of a Concrete or Asphalt street.

making a piece will take a few minutes (not the painting!) and the result is accetable to me.

probably you will benefit from this, and since the "how to" section quite desert i thought to post my work here. :)

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ridimensiona-diAsphaltTutorial-12.jpg)

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/addon-2.jpg)

Seriously, making it is really simple and fast, and now i'm seriously tempted to make a whole table with this technique! :)


See the Tutorial on My Site (http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/paved-road-part-1/)


Jack

Title: Re: Modern Streets!
Post by: Rich J on March 05, 2011, 07:14:26 PM

Now that is cool ... off to the shop I go :)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Booboo on March 05, 2011, 08:04:49 PM

Excellent stuff dude.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Zafarelli on March 05, 2011, 08:48:24 PM

This is pretty bloody brilliant. I'm fairly certain I'm going to steal this in the not too distant future 8)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 05, 2011, 08:51:21 PM

moreover it is REALLY SIMPLE to do! and fast!

The first time i tried with a small piece of MDF i wasn't really optimistic about the result... but the fine grain of the MDF is times better than the cork!

do not forget to see the painting part, the second part of the tutorial!

http://www.thelazyforger.com/tutorials/how-to-sculpt-a-paved-road-part-2/

Quote from: Zafarelli on March 05, 2011, 08:48:24 PM

This is pretty bloody brilliant. I'm fairly certain I'm going to steal this in the not too distant future 8)

hehe, I was thinking about your board when painting this section! ;)
ah, zaf... PM for you!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: midismirnoff on March 06, 2011, 09:25:57 AM

Hi, I tried to do something like that with cork, but your work is much better! I'll have to try it out.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Commander Vyper on March 06, 2011, 09:45:02 AM

Excellent work indeed  :o

If I was doing the Zed board again from stratch I'd definately take it down this route. There is scope for this in a little encounter table that's on the back burner, plus for my halo projects, hell you could even go urban on the dark future road system.

As I said, very nice indeed.

What was the masking tape brand you used?

The Commander

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Achilles on March 06, 2011, 02:12:41 PM

Those look great man. Consider this attempted this week! :D

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 06, 2011, 02:30:55 PM

Thanks guys!
Now i'm trying to make a crossing line with the sidewalks too... a new tutorial will be ready soon! ;)

Quote from: Commander Vyper on March 06, 2011, 09:45:02 AM

What was the masking tape brand you used?

I really don't know! it was the cheaper tape i found - actually, we never have tapes in house, so i found it somewhere... nothing relevant, since you don't have to put it strong on the road, just make it set and the pushing of the sponge will make the rest!!!

Quote from: Achilles on March 06, 2011, 02:12:41 PM

Those look great man. Consider this attempted this week! :D

mate, (and not only you), i will LOVE to see all your works in this same thread!!! i will be honoured by this!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Hawkeye on March 06, 2011, 06:37:56 PM

Brilliant stuff! I've been thinking of doing the same thing for a while - as I need a bit of an asphalt road as a backdrop for one or two of my LPL entries - and you've confirmed my suspicions. This is definitely the way to go!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: carlos marighela on March 06, 2011, 07:03:47 PM

Simple but clever, thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: widgren on March 06, 2011, 08:52:10 PM

THIS is how it should be done!
if ill do any ill use this method.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 06, 2011, 09:03:43 PM

Quote from: Hawkeye on March 06, 2011, 06:37:56 PM

I need a bit of an asphalt road as a backdrop for one or two of my LPL entries

I'll wait for your entries, then!
unluckly i'm not a good painter (actually i'm abnormally slow), so the lpl is quite far away for me.. :(

again, i'm gonna finish my second tutorial about it, with the sidewalks and the crossing lines!!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: uti long smile on March 07, 2011, 09:36:21 AM

That is fantastic!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 07, 2011, 01:22:13 PM

another experiment here:
this time i tried multilayering and some different materials together!

http://www.thelazyforger.com/road-crossing/

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Road-Crossing-8-300x225.jpg)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Burnt65 on March 07, 2011, 02:45:41 PM

If you are modelling streets in the Michigan or SW Ontario area, you will need to put in huge potholes that are probably deeper than the thickness of the board you are using!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Doomsdave on March 07, 2011, 03:21:54 PM

This i sfantastic.  I have been looking for a good method to make city streets for my Supers and moderns.  I wanted easy and modular, this looks like it fills the bill.  I'll be trying this soon. Thanks so much.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: supervike on March 07, 2011, 03:24:25 PM

Brilliant.


Totally love this idea.

Now if someone could figure out a quick and easy way of applying this technique to my slotta bases.....

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Remgain on March 07, 2011, 03:38:57 PM

Jack,

that's really outstanding!!

Only 15 minutes???  :o :o
We have to meet so you I can learn your technique!

Marco

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 07, 2011, 04:39:53 PM

Quote from: Burnt65 on March 07, 2011, 02:45:41 PM

If you are modelling streets in the Michigan or SW Ontario area, you will need to put in huge potholes that are probably deeper than the thickness of the board you are using!

ok, now i know that this is not a good place to visit by car! ;)

Quote from: Doomsdave on March 07, 2011, 03:21:54 PM

This i sfantastic.  I have been looking for a good method to make city streets for my Supers and moderns.  I wanted easy and modular, this looks like it fills the bill.  I'll be trying this soon. Thanks so much.

well, you can do 2 things in return:
1) post here your works with this method (so i can upload on my site!)
2) spread the word that a new site is growing in the horizon of the modelling sites - mine! :D
seriously, i'm being active for less than a week.... in 1 or 2 years i hope to become more known! ;) and you can help me!!! :P

Quote from: supervike on March 07, 2011, 03:24:25 PM

Now if someone could figure out a quick and easy way of applying this technique to my slotta bases.....

pardon my english, what is a slottabase? :)

Quote from: Remgain on March 07, 2011, 03:38:57 PM

We have to meet so you I can learn your technique!

well... when you want i'm here! =)
but i want more eulithe! XD

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: zizi666 on March 07, 2011, 05:08:01 PM

Quote from: Sangennaru on March 07, 2011, 04:39:53 PM

pardon my english, what is a slottabase? :)

it's the standard base that comes with most figures :
(http://www.warfactory.co.uk/figures/pics/base25mmslotta.jpg)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 07, 2011, 05:10:49 PM

Quote from: zizi666 on March 07, 2011, 05:08:01 PM

it's the standard base that comes with most figures :
(http://www.warfactory.co.uk/figures/pics/base25mmslotta.jpg)

thanks zizi!

@supervike
actually i don't know the simplier method for a street pattern on a base, but... can't you just texture it with some sanding paper and then paint it as i did? :)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on March 07, 2011, 05:22:02 PM

That is a great tutorial; quick, easy and produces nice results. A definite "must try soon" technique. Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Hupp n at em on March 07, 2011, 10:53:28 PM

This is great, nice work!  :)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: carlos marighela on March 08, 2011, 01:38:16 AM

Black sandpaper is indeed an excellent source for ashphalt surfaces.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Crudeboy on March 08, 2011, 03:35:36 AM

Holy crow, man.  :o  Those are awesome.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: NewEvolutionGames on March 08, 2011, 04:35:25 PM

Really liked this tutorial and gave it a shot last night. Seemed to work well but I have a question.

What is the tool you are using to make the initial lines? I'm using the sharp end of a compass to score my lines and Emery boards to sand them. Some of them are still lacking a little definition, any suggestions or just keep going over them? I've thought about moving to a nail to get a little wider line. Haven't tried the wire brush part yet, does that help with the texture?

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 08, 2011, 04:48:48 PM

well, the carving tool is a tool i bought in japan, i don't know the exact name!

i quite like it, since you can use it with a really firm movement, but a compass point or a nail on a brush stick will work as well!


i suggest you to star the lines with a cutter, and then to cut with two angolations to make the hole wider - at least the main lines.
the metal brush is quite nice to accentuate the grain of the mdf, and to remove any "fur" on the edge of the cuts!

i quite like that, but a sanding paper should work as well!

i want your photos when finished!!! =)

Quote from: carlos marighela on March 08, 2011, 01:38:16 AM

Black sandpaper is indeed an excellent source for ashphalt surfaces.

yep, it is, i used it a lot, for other project!
i love the fine and regular texture that it gives, but if you want to make concrete blocks you can't make nice cracks on it... :)

good luck, i'll wait here! ;)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: carrma on March 08, 2011, 05:27:22 PM

Quote from: Sangennaru on March 08, 2011, 04:48:48 PM

well, the carving tool is a tool i bought in japan, i don't know the exact name!

Looks like it may be a tool typically used for making etchings:

http://www.dickblick.com/products/etchingdrypoint-needles-and-scribes/
   

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 08, 2011, 09:17:06 PM

Quote from: carrma on March 08, 2011, 05:27:22 PM

Looks like it may be a tool typically used for making etchings:

http://www.dickblick.com/products/etchingdrypoint-needles-and-scribes/
   

wow, THAT'S intresting!
I already own one, but i suggest to take some!

actually mine has a different shape, the point is thinner, so you can use it for making holes or simliar... maybe this other one is just good for glass or other..

the search will continue!!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: warrenss2 on March 09, 2011, 02:02:25 AM

 :o  :-*  ;D

I love this!!!

Now I have to find an American provider for the 3mm MDF!  :?

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 09, 2011, 07:49:12 AM

i don't think is a material that is hard to find here... i guess that in america is pretty common too! :)
i've seen american guys doing many things with it , so... =)

alternatively i think you can use other materials, but i haven't tested them! :(

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Ulu Elsomalien on March 09, 2011, 07:51:30 PM

Beautiful set of road, realistic and eye candy without being very time consuming .  :-*

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Grimmnar on March 09, 2011, 11:48:17 PM

Quote from: warrenss2 on March 09, 2011, 02:02:25 AM

:o  :-*  ;D

I love this!!!

Now I have to find an American provider for the 3mm MDF!  :?

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=169753
Or hit Google and type in 3mm MDF for more choices.
Home Depot and Lowes are other good sources.
Home Depot also sells Hardboard which is something similar to MDF. Might even be the same thing to some people.  :-)

Grimm

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: NewEvolutionGames on March 10, 2011, 12:52:40 AM

Here's my first real attempt at the techniques you posted. It was a real quick paint job(less than 20 minutes with taping). I took the technique and used it to create more of a temple floor. I think I can also apply the techniques to do Space Ship halls and flooring, dungeon flooring, and streets. Still need to pick up some proper tools(my index finger is bruised from the compass plus it broke). I'm thinking of doing so modular street systems. Alot of fun to do and pretty quick too.

(http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu76/bigfish229/bigfish%20minis/tilework.jpg)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 10, 2011, 08:00:08 AM

hum!
i love it! that's a different use of the mdf, but it seems to work even for marble look!  8)

actually, i think that the irregularity that for the concrete were perfect are now a problem... you should try the same technique using plasticard instead of MDF... i think that for a marble-looking table should work even better!

if you use instead a plaster panel (just pour some plaster of paris between two glasses) you can make a really nice stonework... i can make other tutorials about it, if you like! ^_^

anyway, that's a really good job!  :-*
only one suggestion: try to make the cracks to start and end on an edge. if they just end in the middle of the block is quite unrealistic!
Fear not to age it too much! =)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Remgain on March 10, 2011, 09:42:26 AM

Quote from: Sangennaru on March 10, 2011, 08:00:08 AM

hum!
i can make other tutorials about it, if you like! ^_^

Yes, please!! ;D

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: apeekaboo on March 10, 2011, 05:51:23 PM

This is a really interesting tutorial and the results are great. I'm tempted to try this out myself for some urban streets.
Thanks for sharing!

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: mattblackgod on March 10, 2011, 07:30:02 PM

That temple floor is ace! Nice work.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Delaney on March 11, 2011, 01:46:32 AM

Great tute- thanks for that.  I found a great way to improve the road texture too...

Before scribing, take a tub of this....

(http://www.polyfilla.com.au/product_image_poly/PF-WOODFLEX-600G.jpg)

Mix in enough water in to make it like thick paint (use distilled or cold boiled water to keep mould out from the pot).  Then using a sponge, stipple a really thin layer over your MDF.  Let it dry overnight, then do the scribing bit.

Woodflex gives you a nice, gritty, fine asphalt texture (not course like pva and sand), and its really rubbery, so it does not scratch miniatures when they fall on it.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 11, 2011, 07:40:11 AM

that's interesting, i'll give a try! :)

even if i find that the mdf texture is quite good for the concrete look... not for other purposes but for the concrete is perfect! :)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on March 11, 2011, 11:03:08 AM

Hi!

i added another tutorial, but since this one is quite more generic, i put it in the "workbrench" section:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=27069.msg328632#msg328632

just take a look... soon i'll add another tutorial with a good use of the plaster boards!


thanks,
Jack

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on April 09, 2011, 11:46:48 AM

Hi!

related to the other one, since i'm gonna use with the streets, i've added some other pieces:

the last is here

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=28137.0

cheers
Jack

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: mcfonz on April 06, 2013, 11:35:28 AM

Just wanted to say that the tutorial for this technique on your blog is excellent. I plan to do a 4'x4' board using this technique although I am avoiding doing any road markings. It's going to be the basis for a city board and I want it to be flexible so lots of broken up concrete/tarmac to place ruins and buildings on.

The one thing I would say is that at first I was a bit sceptical after engraving the cracks etc as they looked a bit too 'sharp' and unnatural. The brush is the real key to it if you ask me, takes the edges off and adds a weathered look to it.

Just about to spray undercoat the first tile I am doing now. Fingers crossed it will end up something like the OP's fantastic work.

The tiles are 1'x1'. :)

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Commander Vyper on April 06, 2013, 11:49:14 AM

I used it on my halo board.  Scriber is perfect for the job. I little brass brush is handy, make sure you clean up the cracks before paint otherwise the fibres clag up the cracks.

Good luck.

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Blackwolf on April 06, 2013, 12:03:43 PM

Nice tutorial Jack :) will use it,oh and by the way Miss Knieghtly looks rather splendid in that pic,thanks for the link :o ;) :D

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Steam Flunky on August 05, 2016, 09:24:13 AM

Great idea and tutorial.
The link on thread page one does not seem to be working any more so try this - http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/

Title: Re: Modern Streets - Fast Method
Post by: Sangennaru on August 13, 2016, 10:49:05 AM

Quote from: Steam Flunky on August 05, 2016, 09:24:13 AM

Great idea and tutorial.
The link on thread page one does not seem to be working any more so try this - http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/

Thanks for the heads-up Steam!

I've updated now the link in the first page, re-listing it here:

http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/paved-road-part-1/
http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/paved-road-part-2/
http://thelazyforger.com/index.php/tutorials/paved-road-part-3/