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Title: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Captain Blood on March 12, 2011, 05:52:14 PM
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Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Calimero on March 13, 2011, 12:46:00 PM

Might be a dumb question but what explain the difference in the depths of the colors of these two entries? Are the colors that much brighter on entry 1 in real life or is it just a question of how the pictures were taken and so on? I'm not judging, just asking... I could have put this question on a lot of the 1st rounds matchs of this LPL but I think this one would better illustrate what I mean and make the question clearer ( I hope ;) )
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Andy0476 on March 13, 2011, 12:49:26 PM
I think I know what you mean. According to me the first entry has a little too much light in the photo and that is why the coulours are "warped" (sorry could not think of a fitting word in english). In real life both entries will be very evenly matched I believe.

Top stuff from both painters!
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Calimero on March 13, 2011, 01:03:49 PM
Top stuff from both painters!

Yes indeed, I should have stated that too ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Skratch on March 13, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
Love the cow
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Admiral Benbow on March 13, 2011, 01:58:07 PM
Two very nice groups of figures, but the Archers are my personal favourites.
 :-*
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Pil on March 13, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
For me this match-up was a lot harder than the votes suggest. Both are excellently painted models but the second entry simply has more of them, and a cow!
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on March 13, 2011, 06:54:15 PM
Possibly the most difficult to judge - well done to both entries.

Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Keith on March 13, 2011, 07:26:19 PM
A brilliant start - first round I've opended to look at and I'm already laughing. Grat stuff guys.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Bugsda on March 13, 2011, 07:57:57 PM
Might be a dumb question but what explain the difference in the depths of the colors of these two entries? Are the colors that much brighter on entry 1 in real life or is it just a question of how the pictures were taken and so on? I'm not judging, just asking... I could have put this question on a lot of the 1st rounds matchs of this LPL but I think this one would better illustrate what I mean and make the question clearer ( I hope ;) )

This is where selling on ebay comes in handy, I've had a lot of practice at aiming lights and a camera at small groups of figures.

Figouze has probably got his lights over the figs and I've got mine close to the camera and aimed straight at the group, his colours look brighter mine look deeper. probably no difference in real life.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Hammers on March 14, 2011, 07:46:53 AM
This is where selling on ebay comes in handy, I've had a lot of practice at aiming lights and a camera at small groups of figures.

Figouze has probably got his lights over the figs and I've got mine close to the camera and aimed straight at the group, his colours look brighter mine look deeper. probably no difference in real life.

I always wondered how you did that. I probably pose my lights in to a cavalier fashion. I shall try to do what you suggest.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Pil on March 14, 2011, 09:24:48 AM
This is where selling on ebay comes in handy, I've had a lot of practice at aiming lights and a camera at small groups of figures.

Figouze has probably got his lights over the figs and I've got mine close to the camera and aimed straight at the group, his colours look brighter mine look deeper. probably no difference in real life.

Very useful information, I shall have to try that, thanks!
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Lawful Evil on March 14, 2011, 09:30:57 AM
Great work from both competitors!
Can anyone please tell me what company makes the Sodbusters?
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: tsar1701 on March 14, 2011, 09:47:32 AM
My vote go to the archers ... the contrasts are fantastic !
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Bugsda on March 14, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
Great work from both competitors!
Can anyone please tell me what company makes the Sodbusters?

I think they're Redoubt and Foundry, they were a commission so maybe the owner can tell you for sure, Nick?  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Figouze on March 14, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
Thank you for the advice on photo, Bugsda.

Those contrasts are indeed excellent !
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Malamute on March 14, 2011, 10:08:39 PM
I think they're Redoubt and Foundry, they were a commission so maybe the owner can tell you for sure, Nick?  :)

They surely ain't inbred, coz they'se all sorts ;). Foundry, Redoubt, Dixon and a solitary Old Glory female just for the fun of it. No idea who makes the Heffer though  ::)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Rob_bresnen on March 14, 2011, 11:51:08 PM
I think this was very close, but it's all in the eyes to me. The ladies and gentlmen had more expresive faces, and that just tipped the balance. impressive stuff for both though.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Doomhippie on March 15, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Sometimes it's really a shame that you can't vote for both of them. But I don't think not voting is an option. What hurts is to see such a great difference in vots when the actual quality is very close to each other. But then again, it's for the fun of it.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Orctrader on March 17, 2011, 01:02:07 PM
...I've had a lot of practice at aiming lights and a camera at small groups of figures...got mine close to the camera and aimed straight at the group...

What camera and settings are you currently using?  Macro on or off for group shots?  Reason I ask?  None of the figures are out of focus.  The camera "knows" that some figures are nearer the lens than others.

Both great entries.   :)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Figouze on March 17, 2011, 01:48:53 PM
Even if the question is asked to Bugsda, I just answer in order to improve my own photos.


Something is wrong but I don't know what after many tries. Perhpas, you may help.


I used macro mode, iso 100, White balance tungsten mode, at 15cm of the figures with no flash, AF mode (the camera is 12 Mo pixel).
I also use a dark blue paper and the lights are two white lights spots (with two greaseproof paper on each spot)  at 45° from each side of the miniatures.


I see a problem with the colours and effects eaten with the lights.
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Bugsda on March 17, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
What camera and settings are you currently using?  Macro on or off for group shots?  Reason I ask?  None of the figures are out of focus.  The camera "knows" that some figures are nearer the lens than others.

Both great entries.   :)

I don't really understand the settings Malcolm but the macro's on.

I always have the figures at a distance from the blue backgrond sheet, It gives a more dramatic look and maybe it helps with the auto focus.

Just an intuitive guess on my part, you're a techie Malcolm, is that possible?  :?


PS. It's still that Fuji Finepix S55700 Malcolm.  :)

Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Bugsda on March 17, 2011, 02:03:25 PM
I also use a dark blue paper and the lights are two white lights spots (with two greaseproof paper on each spot)  at 45° from each side of the miniatures.

I started using these bulbs after Redzed recommended them on Steve Dean's site, they'll help with the bleached out colours.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x35w-Photography-Light-Bulb-Trumpet-5500K-Daylight-UK-/300502600685?pt=UK_Photography_StudioEquipment_RL&hash=item45f759cbed
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Figouze on March 17, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
 :D
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Orctrader on March 17, 2011, 10:04:19 PM
I don't really understand the settings Malcolm but the macro's on.

I always have the figures at a distance from the blue backgrond sheet, It gives a more dramatic look and maybe it helps with the auto focus.

Just an intuitive guess on my part, you're a techie Malcolm, is that possible?  :?

It is possible, yes.  I'll try it.



If you have the time would you mind emailing a photo to me?  Any group shot of similar quality, but MOST important, as it comes out of the camera.  Uncut/unedited. 
I can tell the settings from that.

Email address is on my website.  Risks SPAM if I write it here.

And I will fully understand if you don't have the time.   ::)

Apologies for any hijacking.  Won't make further comments after this.

@ Figouze - follow Mr B's advice on the lights.  Oh, and dump the greaseproof paper.  ISO at 100 - will it go lower? My camera goes down to 64 and that is what I use.
 
Post information on your camera and the settings you are using by starting a new thread in the appropriate area, with some sample photos - when rules permit - and some helpful forum members will, er, help.   :)

Both great entries.  (Worth repeating.)
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Galland on March 18, 2011, 07:10:19 AM
I cant vote in this one, both are stunningly beutiful!
Title: Re: ROUND 1 Ladies and Gentlemen vs Sodbusters
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 18, 2011, 12:28:32 PM
Love the cow

Farm animals always seem to catch peoples eye in this competition.

That's from personal experience... losing a round to a goat.   :o   lol