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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: joroas on March 31, 2011, 09:37:58 AM
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MW has an advert that lists:
Prussian plastic Infantry, metal command and 7 different Foot artillery sets.
New metal Medieval European troops to add to their plastic boxed set
Halberds for the WOTR range
New metal Napoleonic French cavalry
Not a bad month's haul.
Now that Warlord have Freikorps in plastic, a cheap Prussian army is possible, with Victrix's forthcoming four boxes of Austrians also appearing as 3 ups in the same mag. Pleased to see that they have stopped duplicating each other's ranges.
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I really don't know how they do it. And this is supposed to be a sideline to their GW stuff. To be this prolific and also keep the consistently high standard of work is baffling to me ???
I just wish I had the resources to do large-scale games in 28mm - skirmishing with Austrians and Prussians just doesn't seem right somehow. Silly, I know.....
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I think its the way forward doing plastic,i love lead but the price of a figure is hard to complete a large army,keep up the good work i say.
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Realli looking forward to the plastic Austrians, but I hope they will offer the early casquet hat along with the helmet and shako. I'd love to use them to supplement my Eureka figures.
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Aaron- Take a look here.
http://www.victrixlimited.com/news-75-18th-October-First-images-of-our-forthcoming-Plastic-Austrian-sets
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Thanks and drat! Ah well, maybe they'll do seperate metal head packs down the line like they did for the Brits.
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Well, they've just released the heads and command to upgrade British Infantry to Royal Marines, so you never know. ::)
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I really don't know how they do it. And this is supposed to be a sideline to their GW stuff. To be this prolific and also keep the consistently high standard of work is baffling to me ???
Well at risk of being controversial, I'm not sure they do.
Truthfully, the standard of some of the metal WOTR figures is not that good. They look... rushed. The style is pretty impressionistic on a few; the detail sketchy and not always that well realised. The plastics on the other hand (and God knows I never thought I'd say this) are actually much more finely sculpted and detailed figures... ::)
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Well at risk of being controversial, I'm not sure they do.
Truthfully, the standard of some of the metal WOTR figures is not that good. They look... rushed. The style is pretty impressionistic on a few; the detail sketchy and not always that well realised. The plastics on the other hand (and God knows I never thought I'd say this) are actually much more finely sculpted and detailed figures... ::)
Hmm, fair enough. I haven't seen the metal WOTR close-up and based my remarks on what I have seen, ie the various plastics and the colonial stuff :?
Still, even so, their average is better than many people's best lol
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Hmm, fair enough. I haven't seen the metal WOTR close-up and based my remarks on what I have seen, ie the various plastics and the colonial stuff :?
Still, even so, their average is better than many people's best lol
Totally agree. They are still Godlike, obviously - just with the occasional mere mortal flaw ;)
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Totally agree. They are still Godlike, obviously - just with the occasional mere mortal flaw ;)
...which is some small comfort to the rest of us!
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Well at risk of being controversial, I'm not sure they do.
Truthfully, the standard of some of the metal WOTR figures is not that good. They look... rushed. The style is pretty impressionistic on a few; the detail sketchy and not always that well realised.
Do you know, I've thought that about a lot of their output in the last year or two, but never dared to put my head above the parapet.
Weapons are my bete noir, with such poor and general detail on some its hard to see where to paint different colours. :?
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Sorry to say but I HATE PLASTICS, it reminds me of all those airfix figures I painted as a child. They all got the yellow bayonet disease....I guess I need some therapy before I touch a plastic figure again :'(
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Sorry to say but I HATE PLASTICS, it reminds me of all those airfix figures I painted as a child. They all got the yellow bayonet disease....I guess I need some therapy before I touch a plastic figure again :'(
wrong kind of plastic. The plastic they use now is a hard plastic. But feel free to hate whatever you want.
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I am by no means a Perry fan, I feel like they cut corners on many of their figures to achieve their impressive production rate. The samurai in particular disappointed me- where crisp detail is essential. I painted about a hundred of them in two batches with about a year in between, and was unhappy the whole time, whereas I can paint Olley samurai all day long with every lace visible and distinct. I recently bought some Sudan figs for the LPL and I wasn't that impressed with those either. Detail isn't that pronounced and the undersides of a lot of their figures have really rough gaps and voids that aren't filled in- not good for brushes. I'm not one of those painters that likes to overpaint the existing detail for graphic effect. They take eons to clean... some people say its because of the 'incredible detail' but I don't have to spend that much time prepping figures from almost any other manufacturer. I suppose they have such a large fan base because of the more realistic proportions. Don't get me wrong, I've dropped serious money on Perry figures over the years and they're nice- but I just don't get the rabid enthusiasm many people have.
That said, the new zouaves are stunning- I was admiring them, practically drooling, the entire time I was working on them. The detail is astounding. They may draw me into ACW (more likely a VSF version :)) If the Ansar are anything near the Zouaves they will be absolutely off the hook. The Perrys, Renedra, or the two in combination are doing fantastic work.
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I've always considered Perry figures to be more artisitic than crisp (metals, not plastics).
IMO its the general animation, anatomy and imagination of their work that grabs me. There are certainly far sharper figures in detail terms, but usually at the expense of overall composition. The brothers work matches well with what I have in my head after reading some good history, rather like Anthony Barton's work does too.
They can be tough to paint, but still look top-tier when done well. I applaud the less prominent surface detail, but understand why it drives some folk nuts. I think their figures also age very well - I've just sold most of my wargames figures and 'leadpile'. Almost without exception I ended up keeping the Perry figs. Once I revisited them I couldn't bear to part with them.
Threads criticizing them are very common, and always have been. They have a lot of fans, but equal numbers who (sometimes very vocally) don't see what all the fuss is about.
Not really sure what I'm getting at ... probabaly something about artistry over precision or something daft like that. Oh, and that criticising their output is actually the new black :D
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Not really sure what I'm getting at ... probabaly something about artistry over precision or something daft like that. Oh, and that criticising their output is actually the new black :D
EEP! I didn't realize I was being trendy... I haven't ever read a Perry criticism thread!
I'll agree with you that Perry have an 'artistic' quality that sets them apart from the pack- I guess I'd say its a believability of sorts, they almost seem like they could start moving.
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I agree with you Keith. They are (increasingly, I think) impressionistic.
Like a very capable and experienced artist working at the height of his powers, who needs only a few brush strokes to paint a remarkably convincing picture.
Just don't look to closely because it spoils the effect.
But the overall effect wins out every time.
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Yep.
That sums my rambling up far more elequently (as I would expect from one of you theatrical types).
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Alright, alright, I'm going to turn out some Perry metals for an upcoming LPL. I'll try to look at them in a fresh light :)
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The odd damaged, miscast or just poorly figure does turn up, and generally in the cardboard boxes rather than the blister packs.
That said, whenever I've had an issue with a figure a replacement pack has turned up in the post without a quibble. One they send a whole pack to replace a missing halbard!
Now getting them to answer an e-mail within a reasonable timeframe is a whole different matter lol
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But overall....they must be considered to be heroes of the industry ;)
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There is a picture of the prussians on their web site:
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It's funny, I'm no great painter - adequate "wargames standard" at best - but I find Perry figures much easier to paint than eg Hasslefrees. I can only manage to finish a couple of the HFs in the time it takes to do a unit of Perrys. In the end, both look the same quality to my eyes when viewed at normal gaming distance :?
I love both figure companies to bits, but am glad the Perry figures are cheaper and easier for doing larger units and that the HFs are usually one-off character figures. At least I stand a chance of getting more stuff finished with the Perrys.
Now getting them to answer an e-mail within a reasonable timeframe is a whole different matter lol
When I recently e-mailed them enquiring about a specific character figure for their Sudan range, Alan e-mailed back in a couple of hours saying he will be made soon.
You need to send out more positive waves Moriarty! Think "the Perrys e-mails are going to be there" and they will be! lol
(with apologies to Sgt Oddball )