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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Erwan on October 08, 2007, 06:40:59 PM

Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 08, 2007, 06:40:59 PM
I just finished my first cowboys. I am not a expert in this theme, so what are you thinking about them ? For the choose of the colors, etc...

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/members/erwan/cowboy8.jpg)

Still for the color, I have a little problem : on two minis, there are an uniform I think and I don't know how to paint them. Could you please help me : This the 3th and the 5th in beginning on the left :

(http://forum.backofbeyond.de/images/members/erwan/cowboy7.jpg)
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on October 08, 2007, 06:54:34 PM
Erwan the links didnt work, so I#ve copied your pics to my server.

Very nice and promising WIP's :) Looking forward for the finished pics!

What about some moss-greenish colours?
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Malamute on October 08, 2007, 06:56:01 PM
Nothing wrong with those colours, very nice muted shades. :)
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 08, 2007, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: "Prof.Witchheimer"
Erwan the links didnt work, so I#ve copied your pics to my server.

Very nice and promising WIP's :) Looking forward for the finished pics!

What about some moss-greenish colours?


Oh sorry for the links...thank you Prof.Witchheimer.

moss-greenish? for the uniforms? Why not! I don't know if it is historical, but why not! I will try something like that.
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: vikotnik on October 08, 2007, 07:16:10 PM
Erwan, You've got a very nice 3D effect on Your minis!
Great paint job! :love:

Now You have reminded me that I have some westerners lying around, too... :cry:
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 08, 2007, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: "vikotnik"
Now You have reminded me that I have some westerners lying around, too... :cry:


Really sorry... :mrgreen:
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: mousy brown on October 09, 2007, 12:20:54 AM
Looks like you have the foundry bushwackers there erwen..

Guy to the left looks like Payne Jones and to the right looks like Tom Malley..
found here... http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/OW/5/index.asp
Top / middle picture .

..so not really a uniform as such but more a smock shirt worn by the
likes of the bushwackers in the American civil war.


4) The Bushwacker Smock

[3 Ark ST, various Missouri Irregulars]

As far as photographs show, this distinctive type of garment was limited to
the northern Trans-Mississippi. The origins of the 'Smock' or 'Overshirt' are
as a New England Workmens garment in the early 19th century, however,
they seem to have continued to exist in the west after their decline in the
East. One such garment, made in wool, was recovered from the wreck of
the steamboat Arabia which sank near Kansas City, Mo in 1856 (Brown
1999). In structure they were long and loose, usually with an open neck to
show off a regular shirt and cravat underneath. In effect they fulfilled the
function of a jacket, and were always worn outside the trousers, being
belted in at the waist. Some beautifiul and convincing reproductions of this
style of shirt may be seen in the recent film 'Ride With the Devil.'


Of course i could be mistaken about those two particular characters history
but they certainly are not in a uniform.

So I guess they can be any colour you fancy mate.
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 09, 2007, 07:26:09 AM
Oh yes!! Thank you very much Mousy Brown : I believed that this minis comes from Artizan Design so I don't think to look on the Foundry website or the colors of course...

that reassures me because I hate to paint uniforms… :freak:
Title: Nice Job
Post by: bandit86 on October 09, 2007, 07:34:44 AM
Nice paint job, as for the basing, I know its not done yet but you might want to try Valljeo Pumce. It come in a Jar and is a nice paste with a grannie texture, it will fill in the depth between your base and the one on the figure. Once dry it paints up nice. I love the stuff
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on October 09, 2007, 09:24:52 AM
Very good paint job! Will we see these in a future Lead Painters' League match-up?

The colours are fine -  muted greys, browns, blues etc would have been very common. Cattle Barons, gamblers, working girls etc might have worn more colourful & expensive clothes, but for most characters, your colour schemes work very well. You could break up the monotony by adding the odd colourful bandana or shirt.

Just look at the more "realistic" westerns, like The Unforgiven or Deadwood for more inspiration.

However, if you want more colourful John Wayne-style  westerners, why not?  :)

Cheers,
Ian
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 10, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
Thank you everybody!! It will help me for the future.

Here is the WIP of this oldwest team, if you are interrested...
http://terresdeshommes.blogspot.com/search/label/Oldwest
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: P_Clapham on October 10, 2007, 07:48:02 PM
Hopefully mine will look half as good of yours.  :o
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Evilcartoonist on October 10, 2007, 10:59:57 PM
Great colors (and painting), Erwan!  Actually some of the better color choices I've seen (historically) for some old west. Moss green? A forest green was actually used in the Civil War by Berdan's Sharpshooters:

http://www.geocities.com/wr2usss/2ndusss.jpg

And Mousy- great source for the bushwacker clothing! Also-I've seen the steamboat Arabia (or what remains of it.) Talk about a treasure trove of old west items:

http://www.1856.com/

Curly
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: mousy brown on October 11, 2007, 01:30:27 AM
:love:  Thanks for that link Curly nice one.

Erwan ...Just searching around for painting tips and stumbled across this
thought you might like a look as its featuring one of your figures above.

http://wargames.nordalia.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=31
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on October 11, 2007, 09:03:50 AM
That's a great tutorial - thanks for the URL.

Those trousers, though :?:  :o  

I can't imagine anyone lasting more than a few hours in Deadwood wearing those :lol:

Cheers,
Ian
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: Erwan on October 11, 2007, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: "Evilcartoonist"
Great colors (and painting), Erwan!  Actually some of the better color choices I've seen (historically) for some old west. Moss green? A forest green was actually used in the Civil War by Berdan's Sharpshooters:

http://www.geocities.com/wr2usss/2ndusss.jpg

And Mousy- great source for the bushwacker clothing! Also-I've seen the steamboat Arabia (or what remains of it.) Talk about a treasure trove of old west items:

http://www.1856.com/

Curly


Wow thank you very much for this link. This green is really beautifull. I will try to do it but I believe that it is very difficult...
Title: My first cowboys
Post by: PeteMurray on October 11, 2007, 12:44:44 PM
It was really hard to get a colorfast green dye in the US for a long time, so the green would quickly fade into a grassy color. Green jackets were the uniform of the US riflemen and sharpshooters from just after the American Revolution to the end of the Civil War. So don't worry about trying to get the green just right!

Out West, where the bulk of the regular Army presence was cavalry, there weren't a whole lot of green uniform tunics in the militia. States mostly bought what was cheap. The whole blue = North/ gray = South wasn't even a hard and fast rule. For the first few battles of the Civil War, there were gray-clad Northerners and blue-clad Southerners, and boy did that confuse the hell out of things.