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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Elprez on April 26, 2011, 09:31:51 AM
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A couple of pictures of the experimental HMLS "Elizabeth", recently attached to the Queens Electrical Rifles
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8vSOZyqpa_U/Ta9rdUfWBiI/AAAAAAAAAfI/cluftha4P54/s320/Steamtank2.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kb6QvFpcVbc/Ta9rfELG-MI/AAAAAAAAAfU/pVicaGqTwgY/s320/Steamtank5.jpg)
She does come with her own self-towed ammunition, coal and water trailer for extended missions, but I haven't painted that yet, :)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BEts6ltq6rE/S7ob9Jt_P5I/AAAAAAAAASA/Fn2wrQQq7NM/s320/Tank4.jpg)
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that's a lovely painted interesting new interpretation of the 40K stuff
I am not yet sure if my indoctrinated eye is ready to blank out the "40K" tag, but it certainly brings about a new perspective
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Looks great!
Maybe removing some of the "40k-ish" aspects - the plow blade, the front gun - and replacing with more "VSF-ish" bits - cowcatcher, gun from the steam tank - would help former user
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I entirely concede its 40k background, lol, however I had some 40k vehicles and in the interests of economy, I was going to use them. I'll try and be more adventurous with any further additions, :D
I fully intend to pick up some of the beautiful Ironclad steamtanks when finances allow, and I really fancy one of their scout aeronefs too.
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That's probably the most expensive VSF contraption ever. ;) But it looks darn good.
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Nice work.
My take on 40k armour is here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12120.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=12120.0)
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So its not just me recycling 40k kits then Bullshott? lol
I love Major Percy Ironside-Hobart, and the coal hopper on the AVRE.
Hadn't seen that thread before, or I'd have pinched that idea.
I have some Leman Russ tanks too, but those might go to the Prussians. We'll see.
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40k... Looks to me like a vamped up T34. GW wouldn't have taken their design from the Soviet workhorse would they? ;D
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Paint scheme is great but the turret doesn't look Victorian enough.
Or big enough - most Victorian gun crews are quite large, and that turret doesn't look big enough for 3 or 4 men to sit in. Some Victorian naval turrets were open topped - maybe that would be an option ?
Not sure about the blade either, but mainly on the lines of what would it be needed for ?
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40k... Looks to me like a vamped up T34. GW wouldn't have taken their design from the Soviet workhorse would they? ;D
Seems I'm not the only one to always make that connection with the chimera. :D
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Not sure about the blade either, but mainly on the lines of what would it be needed for ?
To scrape up zombies, of course.
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I think it looks fine. An excellent use for 40K stuff IMO.
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The dozer blade? For ramming, for throwing up defences for the poor bloody infantry, for extra armour protection, and to scrape up zombies of course.
(thanks Mancha lol)
I think I WILL give the next one a larger turret, you're right. I DID say it was experimental, :D. Perhaps I'll extend the loading time for the main gun on this one to reflect the lack of room?
As I have some of the 40K kits and bits I just thought I'd get some use out of them. I quite like them, and although they are very World War 1-influenced, they'll do for me for the moment. I can always add to them in the future.
I also have some of the Imperial Sentinel kits which I'm going to press into service for Her Majesty.
(and no, thats not a lascannon, thats a Tesla-Vickers electro-cannon ;)).
Having seen some examples on this forum, I'm planning a spar torpedo for the next one.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eWUavljGPxc/Ta-BNQ1OdJI/AAAAAAAAAg4/g4q9c7qFAow/s320/Walker3.jpg)
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not that 40K wouldn't look steampunk enough - actually it is what defines the imperial guard IMHO
it is just that it is so "cast in bronze" 40K - even simple bits jump into the eye
it is like the vulcans who look elvish because of the pointy ears
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I entirely concede its 40k background, lol, however I had some 40k vehicles and in the interests of economy, I was going to use them. I'll try and be more adventurous with any further additions, :D
I fully intend to pick up some of the beautiful Ironclad steamtanks when finances allow, and I really fancy one of their scout aeronefs too.
So, are these to remain multi-purposed? Removable stack when on the 40K table? Makes perfect sense to me, though I tend to feel sullied by actually using Evil Empire (tm) rules. lol
So its not just me recycling 40k kits then Bullshott? lol
That IS tongue-in-cheek, right? They're everywhere, they're everywhere!
Naturally enough, of course. The whole 'Gothic sci fi' means everything has to have an aire of the archaic, where the more rivets the better. Alas, sometimes GW seems to be trying to pull away from their own meme. *shrug*
All the more 'obsolete' kits to bash cheaply; sadly, it's going to be a long wait on the new Dark Eldar Raiders.
Doug
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It's true, there's a whole bunch of GW Walkers pressed into VSF service - the Sacramento boys seem very fond of them in particular. I have the odd Rhino, Dreadnaught and Sentinel pressed into VSF service, but I don't think there's any pics of them on Lead Adventurers - they're mostly still '40k ready' and don't have suitable rivets and British Ensigns.
I really like the tank - especially the top off the water-bottle used as the cupola.
The 'dozer blade (what does 'dozer' actually mean? Anyone know? I realise it's a contraction of 'bulldozer', but, why '...dozer' in the first place? Just wondering...) anyway, the big shovelly thing could also be used for clearing Cytherean Ironwood trees of course. Very hard to shift otherwise, so I'm told.
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The 'dozer blade (what does 'dozer' actually mean? Anyone know? I realise it's a contraction of 'bulldozer', but, why '...dozer' in the first place? Just wondering...) anyway, the big shovelly thing could also be used for clearing Cytherean Ironwood trees of course. Very hard to shift otherwise, so I'm told.
Wikipedia is your friend, especially when Google directs you there. ;->=
* 19th century: term used in engineering for a horizontal forging press.
* 1886: "bulldozer" meant a large-caliber pistol and the person who wielded it.
* Around 1880: In the USA, a "bull-dose" was a large and efficient dose of any sort of medicine or punishment. 'Bull-dosing' meant a severe whipping or coercion, or other intimidation such as at gunpoint.
* Late 19th century: "bulldozing" meant using big force to push over or through any obstacle.
* 1930s: applied to the vehicle.
Doug
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As it was quite a nice day today, I took some photos outside.
While my photo skills are still pretty basic, hopefully you'll indulge me and allow me this picture of the steamtank and walker together.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9EfNKhtToA/TbnRYWmKovI/AAAAAAAAAhA/Y3IT00e3xvE/s320/Apr11v.jpg)
Maybe I should have thought of it a bit earlier in the day when it was a bit brighter though?
@ The_Beast - the Dark Eldar raiders do look quite useful, don't they? And no, the funnel etc. aren't removable. Haven't played 40K in a very long time, although I'm still quite fond of the background and some of the fiction, mainly the Gaunt's Ghosts and Ciaphas Cain books.
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Actually, I think it looks worse alongside the walker - the turret looks even smaller in that picture. If the walker can only accomodate 1 crewman, how do you fit a guncrew and ammo into the chimera turret?
Might be a case for limiting the hull gun to either a single shot weapon - perhaps loaded with cannister? or have it very slow loading (there's not a lot of space next to the running gear).
Some ventilation might be useful too- otherwise the stokers at the base of that funnel will probably expire in the heat. (A rule that featured in local games from years back - most of our vehicles travelled open topped as long as possible to keep the crew at least semi-conscious)
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Done a bit of googling on early tanks, and now I'm not so sure I agree about the turret.
This one looks a bit cramped too, although the guns not so large:-
(http://www.brusselspictures.com/wp-content/photos/WWI-tanks/Frenvh-light-tank-FT-17.jpg)
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Didn't think you were, :).
I googled for images of early tanks precisely because of the feedback, (and some of the designs I found are bizarre, lol).
I was surprised how small the turret on this one was.
All comments and suggestions are welcome, and I'm taking them all onboard, bearing in mind the kits I'm working with are GW Chimeras and Leman Russes.
I might put a Leman Russ turret on the next Chimera, but I'll have to change the main gun.
I'm definitely going to "borrow" Bullshotts take on the Leman Russ, which luckily would leave me with a spare turret, :D.
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Many 40K vehicles are WW1 inspires, so can be converted into VSF vehicles.
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Yeah, the turret (otherwise a smashing job, well done). You might consider this one
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=289
From Ramshackle Games, £ 2.50...
Rudi
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The Ft17 is a wonderful tank, but very cramped even with a small gun.
If you ever get the chance to see a real one, they look a bit like a bath duck and are tiny.
But on the other hand, they aren't steam powered and don't have huge guns.
No criticism of your work, it's the original model designer that was a lazy arse.
About the only GW vehicle that I have any time for is the Basilisk, but again it doesn't have any space to carry ammo (although being open topped you can at least see if crew figures fit on it.)