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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Malamute on October 26, 2007, 12:37:29 PM
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Well I have been bored at work all week and have been thinking of a new project to undertake. I have finally settled on an idea for smugglers in C18th West Country England or I guess any coastal area - possibly even Romney Marshes with Dr Syn :)
I have so far sourced most of the figures I intend to purchase over the next week or so:-
Some of the new Foundry civilians, in particular their smugglers pack and the townsfolk. Some SYW British Dragoon, both mounted/dismounted and The Treasure Island pack for two armed civilians and Long John Silver.
Front Rank C18th civilian packs including the vicar figure, several wagons with drivers and horses/oxen.
From Westwind the town militia pack of 8 figures from their Sleep Hollow range. This has several really nice figures holding lanterns and torches with muskets.
Now I need to find some generic buildiings. I need a church and a cluster of houses to form a village, maybe about five or so.Ideally they will be ready painted to save me time. Any suggestions for these :?:
Anything you think I have missed or anymore suggestions for extra figures :?:
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Sorry no suggestions - but this is an ace project! I'm looking forward to following your work on it. 8)
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ESLO make nice ready-painted buildings, if time rather than cash is the deciding factor. They look a little more European than British to my mind, but are reasonably general-purpose. I've been using them for my Great War games, and will do for Gloire too, when I get round to that.
http://www.gelaendestuecke.de/
Their UK agent is Calliver books I think, but they don't seem to carry the whole range, so I order direct from Germany.
Edit: They don't do a decent church, though, which is a shame. I'm on the lookout for one too.
A bit difficult to navigate, that site. You need to look under:
Weitere Produckte >>> Gelände, Platten & Bausätze (verschiedene Maßstäbe) >>> Gelände (25mm - 30mm / Standard Tabletopgröße) >>> Industrie, Häuser & Ruinen >>> Fantasy
There are some nice village houses, shacks, windmills etc. in that section.
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TM Terrain might be a choice, though expensive.
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Great sounding project! Blue Moon have the Disney version of Dr. Syn in their Highwaymen box, but of course you'd be stuck with a load of other ruffians, then. The only other thing I can think of would be some sailors to fight with if the smuggling negotiations turn sour.
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Well I have been bored at work all week and have been thinking of a new project to undertake. I have finally settled on an idea for smugglers in C18th West Country England or I guess any coastal area - possibly even Romney Marshes with Dr Syn :)
An excellent choice of projects!
Some of the new Foundry civilians, in particular their smugglers pack and the townsfolk. Some SYW British Dragoon, both mounted/dismounted and The Treasure Island pack for two armed civilians and Long John Silver.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/kirkkhan.jpg)
Front Rank C18th civilian packs including the vicar figure, several wagons with drivers and horses/oxen.
Good choice there. Front Rank is a bit beefer than Foundry if you're allergic to these sorts of things. I'm not. They also have some lovely regulars as well.
From Westwind the town militia pack of 8 figures from their Sleep Hollow range. This has several really nice figures holding lanterns and torches with muskets.
Got a link? It's possible I've seen this but have totally forgotten it.
Now I need to find some generic buildiings. I need a church and a cluster of houses to form a village, maybe about five or so.Ideally they will be ready painted to save me time. Any suggestions for these :?:
I bought the "English Village" CD collection from Fiddler's Green and am pleased with it, but these are paper buildings and thus do not really fit the "saves time" condition. I still recommend them because the CD of twenty-some buildings costs the same as a resin building.
Anything you think I have missed or anymore suggestions for extra figures :?:
Outpost Wargames Services has a newly-resculpted Highwayman line which includes rich victims and a few very nice highwaymen. There are also some thief-takers for something other than the Dragoons.
Full disclosure: I've received complimentary miniatures from OWS. I might've bought them anyhow, and generally prefer to give my business to companies run by nice people.
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Pete,
I thought the idea of Foundry would upset you :lol:
Here is the link to the Westwind figures:
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=2_20
Thanks for the heads up on Outpost Miniatures. I had forgotten them. :)
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Poly edited the graphic slightly so I'll use it again, just for emphasis:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/KhanFoundry.jpg)
Thanks for the link to the Westwind stuff.
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Have you seen these Eureka 18th century tavern groups, Malamute?
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/18th-century-92-c.asp
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Have you seen these Eureka 18th century tavern groups, Malamute?
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/18th-century-92-c.asp
Very nice :) Thsi is going to be an expensive project :lol:
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Ahh Malamute, I am looking at the Highwaymen I have the Foundry sutff and Outpost gear and am looking to build up with a few of the Front Rnk figures
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For buildings; are Hovel's English range too crude? They look a bit old but they also have that "Jamaica Inn" feel about them.
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Now I need to find some generic buildiings. I need a church and a cluster of houses to form a village, maybe about five or so.Ideally they will be ready painted to save me time.
Malamute, very nice project and very tempting ... :D
I would offer three prepainted buildings from the Conflix range of polystone terrain pieces:
(http://www.brookhursthobbies.com/Conflix/Pix/Tavern.jpg)
The tavern
(http://www.brookhursthobbies.com/Conflix/Pix/Tavern%20extention%20wing.jpg)
Tavern extension wing
(http://www.brookhursthobbies.com/Conflix/Pix/house%20ith%20hay%20loft.jpg)
House with hayloft
If you'd be interested, please drop me a pm.
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Superb idea. Don't forget the Revenue Men / Excise Men too. And find room for some wreckers. You now have to re-watch every episode of Poldark for inspiration! (Now what was the name of the Captain of Grenadiers again... a Scotsman... I can see his face now... )
Anyway - buildings, yes, I have all the Conflix range - there are 6 or 7 pieces, all pretty good, though a basic paint job. The other ace supplier of relatively cheap, pre-painted half timbered buildings (in wide variety) in the the UK, is the ex TSS people, PMC Games, who basically now sell their stuff only through eBay as Sellthatstuffboy. Really pretty good, and a big range.
But I can tell you from about 3 years of looking that NOBODY bar NOBODY does a decent 28mm English country church. Hovels do an undersized one with a small steeple. TM Terrain carry a reasonable 20mm St Mere Eglise, which would just about do (I have one, but have yet to paint it - I'll let you know how I get on). Hornby do a couple, which you often see pressed into service, but again, although nice models, they are really way to small for 28mm figures.
The GOOD news however, is that Dave Bodley (of the very excellent Grand Manner) promised me 6 months ago that a proper 28mm English country church was on his to-do list, and he was aiming to have it by the end of 2007! We shall see. :wink:
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Best source of reasonable looking ready-painted 25mm resin buildings that I've found is eBay, a chap trading under the banner of "Sellthatstuffboy", he usually has a few, generally for about £10-£15 each, including a coopers barn that looks very tempting :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/25MM-WARGAMES-MEDIEVAL-STYLE-BUILDING-COOPERS-BARN_W0QQitemZ220164412625QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2559QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He also has stacks of barrels and crates etc. and his stuff is good quality, I have bought quite a few of his 15mm WWII pieces and they are top notch, also a couple of 25mm Monitors (great but I need a bigger river now !) that I picked up for VSF games - cheap enough that I can use them as ready painted scenery.
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I have this Church in stock from when I painted it for the site:
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/update210803/MA25-01.jpg
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Best source of reasonable looking ready-painted 25mm resin buildings that I've found is eBay, a chap trading under the banner of "Sellthatstuffboy", he usually has a few, generally for about £10-£15 each, including a coopers barn that looks very tempting :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/25MM-WARGAMES-MEDIEVAL-STYLE-BUILDING-COOPERS-BARN_W0QQitemZ220164412625QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2559QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He also has stacks of barrels and crates etc. and his stuff is good quality, I have bought quite a few of his 15mm WWII pieces and they are top notch, also a couple of 25mm Monitors (great but I need a bigger river now !) that I picked up for VSF games - cheap enough that I can use them as ready painted scenery.
I have around 15 of his buildings plus around 12 of the Monolith Tudor buildins which are great too, a church would be nice
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I willcheck out the Ebay guy. I remember seeinghis stuff at shows when he was TSS. :)
Admiral Benbow - Thanks for the Conflix suggestion. I will consider that as well :)
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They have some nice stuff.
http://www.miniaturebuildingauthority.com/
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Sounds like a great setting for a game. On TMP, Jeff from Outpost hinted at doing smugglers around Christmas time, which would be nice. I recently painted some foundry smugglers-nice little character models. I like the idea of having a multiplayer early/mid 18th century game with smugglers, highwaymen, dragoons, local militia/townsfolk, thief takers and a small landing of French/Jacobites. Maybe a Bonnie Prince Charlie of 45 kind of thing.
Anyway, best of luck with theplanning.
Andrew
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So far most of the figures have arrived(Don't mention the Foundry ones...)I am only now waiting for the Outpost ones. I realised I already had a church that would be ok to use by Fantascene.
So now its just sourcing the buildings. I am hoping that the PMC man will be at Warfare in Reading in a couple of weeks time and I can see his buildings in the flesh.
I will post photos as things progress....
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Malamute I will get some photos taken of the Sellthatstuff boy one, they are ready painted and save a deal of time. I have my Foundry already I just need to get the Thief taker from Outpost as I Have the rest. I also picked up the Mounted Dragoons from F they have 6 dismounted and one with the smugglers in chains, a nice little touch :D
I need a church and the Inn, then the wood chip wallpaper :mrgreen:
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Malamute I will get some photos taken of the Sellthatstuff boy one, they are ready painted and save a deal of time. I have my Foundry already I just need to get the Thief taker from Outpost as I Have the rest. I also picked up the Mounted Dragoons from F they have 6 dismounted and one with the smugglers in chains, a nice little touch :D
I need a church and the Inn, then the wood chip wallpaper :mrgreen:
His stuff looks nice on Ebay, but he only takes Paypal and I don't have an account :cry:
I am also awaiting the Thieftaker from Outpost and that nice figure in a greatcoat with blunderbus :)
I also have the mounted/dismounted dragoons - our projects seem to be a mirror image :lol:
If you are looking for an Inn I saw Sellthatstuffboy has one on Ebay at present.
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I have a Sellthatstuffboy inn. It's pretty good - but nowhere near as good as that Forgeworld one!
When PMC sold off Total System Scenic, they stopped attending shows. they only now sell through eBay :(
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If anyone is looking for a rollicking good read which has both smugglers AND highwaymen in it, I recommend the "Doctor Syn and the Scarecrow of Romney Marsh" stories to you. There are two books, and a collection of short stories to go with it. I didn't know about them before I started writing up Gloire, but it was a great find and I tried to work in some of the ideas into that.
Those stories are set in the post-American Revolution/early Napoleonic period, but there's no reason why you couldn't set them earlier. The Forty-Five Rising is a prime period, for instance, or you could even go earlier and incorporate the great Atlantic pirates of the 1720s into the scene!
If you're looking for an inn, I believe Armorcast 2.0 (run by Ginfritter) has resurrected the fantasy line. The inn isn't a prepaint, but I believe the interior is done.
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If anyone is looking for a rollicking good read which has both smugglers AND highwaymen in it, I recommend the "Doctor Syn and the Scarecrow of Romney Marsh" stories to you.
Ah, the elusive Dr Syn! I have wondered about him since he was alluded to in "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen", both he and the Scarecrow, in fact, as members of one of the earlier LoEG. The whole LoEG series is so ripe with references that it is quite a challange to pretend you know exactly to what and whom Mr. Alan Moore is refering. And I always considered googling things as cheating.
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Googling obscure facts and references is not cheating! You learn what the reference means, you get the joke, you get the little "ah ha!" moment, and then, if you are lucky, it opens up a whole new world of reading for you. How is that cheating? Thirty years ago it would have involved such instruments of torture as the Card Catalog and the Dewey Decimal System and the Stern and Judgmental Librarian Without Hilarity to dig up this information.
Google is the annotation that the editor couldn't be bothered to include.
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I hope you didn't read that as an insult to you, Pete. I was talking about myself and I was not serious. I portray myself more the idiot than I actually am. This is unnecessary since my spontaneous stupidity is most likely more than adequate. :-)
I am in fact an avid user of Wikipedia and I can hardly watch a movie or read a book with out a laptop at my side. The HBO series "Rome" for example, would not have been half as enjoyable without it.
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I was not serious.
Please excuse me. I'm incredibly out of caliber this morning. :oops:
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Read the edit of my post. My sincere apologies.
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His stuff looks nice on Ebay, but he only takes Paypal and I don't have an account :cry:
++ Drop him a line he may take a cheque. I have put in a bod on that one fingers crossed :D
I am also awaiting the Thieftaker from Outpost and that nice figure in a greatcoat with blunderbus :)
++ Yep he is nice, I can`t beleive how Marti Bakers sculpting has come on, the Geezers are by him too and they are great
I also have the mounted/dismounted dragoons - our projects seem to be a mirror image :lol:
++Great minds :mrgreen:
I think you will likely finish yours first, though I have the painted buldings I tend to butterfly all over the place with minis. Painting Greeks at the moment :mrgreen: