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Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 09, 2007, 10:07:06 AM
Just in case there's any interested in the Great War that don't already know about it, on Sunday (which is Remembrance Sunday) on ITV1 (British TV) is a one-off drama called My Boy Jack. It's about the son of famous poet Rudyard Kipling, who went Missing in Action in 1915, and the elder Kipling's grief and feelings of guilt over the loss of his son (I believe he pulled strings to get him into the army, after he failed the eye exam).

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/jack.jpg)

It stars Daniel Radcliffe of Harry Potter fame, and Kim Cattrall from "Sex and the City." Don't know if it will be any good, or if it will have any action scenes (probably not, as it is based on a stage play), but still, it may well be worth watching, and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Hammers on November 09, 2007, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
It stars Daniel Radcliffe of Harry Potter fame, and Kim Cattrall from "Sex and the City."


Now there's a wierd image.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 09, 2007, 10:42:52 AM
Yes. She's playing his mother too, which is even weirder.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Hammers on November 09, 2007, 11:02:25 AM
Yuck! Sometimes you'd like to be able to scrub your brains with soap.
Title: Re: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: PeteMurray on November 09, 2007, 12:15:58 PM
American audiences will probably have to wait for the DVD or A&E to pick it up here.

I can't stop looking at Ratcliffe's mustache. It's like a third eyebrow, on his upper lip.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 09, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
It's actually more impressive than the real John Kipling's:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/jkirishguard2.jpg)
His is more reminiscent of the teenage bumfluff sported by young Sickly (no amount of coaxing will persuade him to be rid of it).
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Hammers on November 09, 2007, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
His is more reminiscent of the teenage bumfluff sported by young Sickly (no amount of coaxing will persuade him to be rid of it).


I'll send the boy a jar of "Captain Spaulding's Bharatpur Herbal Bodyhair Fertilizer". I swear by it! It made my armpits lusher than ever.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Lt. Hazel on November 09, 2007, 04:32:16 PM
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I can't stop looking at Ratcliffe's mustache. It's like a third eyebrow, on his upper lip.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Neldoreth on November 09, 2007, 04:51:01 PM
Certainly looks interesting and worth a watch... But seriously, how could one pull strings to get their son INTO the army? As a parent that seems to be about the most crazy thing that could ever happen! But times have changed I guess...

Looking forward to it.
n.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Vanvlak on November 09, 2007, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: "Neldoreth"
... But seriously, how could one pull strings to get their son INTO the army? As a parent that seems to be about the most crazy thing that could ever happen! But times have changed I guess...

Well, maybe if the kid went into some depressive state, his father might have hoped to help, perhaps with misgivings, perhaps not imagining what the Great War was really like.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: xeoran on November 09, 2007, 08:19:38 PM
Quote from: "Neldoreth"
Certainly looks interesting and worth a watch... But seriously, how could one pull strings to get their son INTO the army? As a parent that seems to be about the most crazy thing that could ever happen! But times have changed I guess...

Looking forward to it.
n.


In Army and Imperial families that is what you did. And in WW1 people genuinely wanted to fight. There are the astounding figures about Kitcheners Army where literally millions and millions of men signed up, often waiting in a queue for several hours or even for a day or more. Times have changed.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 10, 2007, 01:47:34 AM
Not to mention countless youths who lied about their age to get in, and the recruiting people who turned a blind eye to it.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Cory on November 10, 2007, 04:13:58 AM
Quote from: "xeoran"
In Army and Imperial families that is what you did. And in WW1 people genuinely wanted to fight. There are the astounding figures about Kitcheners Army where literally millions and millions of men signed up, often waiting in a queue for several hours or even for a day or more. Times have changed.


What has always amazed me are the Americans who had the benefit of three years of hindsight but still joined with the same enthusiasm as their allies had at the beginning.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: dominic on November 10, 2007, 09:21:30 AM
Dash it!  I thought this was another hilarious Plynkes battle report!
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Overlord on November 10, 2007, 09:25:30 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/poppy2.jpg)

It was the day that war broke out
Everyone seemed exited
While young men boasted
And talked of great times
Dark clouds gathered
on the Maginot line
Sisters and fathers
Brothers and sons
All said goodbye
It seems so much fun
We'll be finished by Christmas
Back home by the fire
Perish the distance
The bombs and the wire
Don't wake the lion.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: dominic on November 10, 2007, 09:35:05 AM
Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: xeoran on November 10, 2007, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: "Cory"
What has always amazed me are the Americans who had the benefit of three years of hindsight but still joined with the same enthusiasm as their allies had at the beginning.


Well in part the war wasn't seen as the utter horror it is today. In good trenches it was entirely possible to have a nicer set up that back in the East End slums in Blighty. One of my English teachers told me that his grandfather joined up from Ireland because the trenches looked nicer than where he was living and they got free food and clothing.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 11, 2007, 11:52:11 PM
Well I must say I rather enjoyed it (though I'm not sure "enjoyed" is the right word), though it is (perhaps expectedly) something of a tear-jerker, and a little depressing.

Not an action film by any means, probably about a minute's worth of action in the whole two hours. Us Brits don't really do action. A moving emotional drama, then,  but no real surprises.

The Great War was beastly, awful and unfair, and there can never be enough tears to shed over it. I think we all knew that fact anyway, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to be reminded of it every now and then.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Lowtardog on November 12, 2007, 12:10:33 AM
I agree not a bad film, I still can`t get over Harry Potter with a moustache, but it did show well how young many of these brave boys were. You can`t imagine how Rudyard must have felt knowing he did everything he could to get his son into the war and then be confronted with the fact that he in effect he sent his son to his death. :?
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Mainly28s on November 12, 2007, 08:14:50 AM
It's a typically British film. It relies more on acting than action. I certainly enjoyed it- and learned a few things as result ('cos I ended up researching Rudyard Kipling). All in all, very well worth watching.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: dominic on November 13, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
Good news to all those with no access to great British TV.  The DVD will be released on 19 November.  You can get it at Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.de

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51g4XFPvF1L._SS400_.jpg)
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on November 13, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: "Mainly28s"
It's a typically British film.


great ! honestly, I love typically British movies, much more better then german ones. Will definitely order that movie.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on November 13, 2007, 02:40:02 PM
btw, there is another movie with Daniel Radcliffe, December Boys, not historical at all but sounds like a nice story about some orphan boys

(http://cinempatia.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/december.jpg)
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: dominic on November 13, 2007, 02:41:52 PM
Ooo...Orphan boys... does he meet Tom Riddle in a cave somewhere?? :lol:
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Hammers on November 13, 2007, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: "Mainly28s"
It's a typically British film. It relies more on acting than action.


...which is why I consider BBCworlds best producer of TV. Well, BBC and HBO.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: Plynkes on November 13, 2007, 03:42:41 PM
Ahhh!!!! Got it! It has been driving me mad! I couldn't figure out for the life of me where I had seen the girl playing Jack's sister before.

I finally gave in and looked on IMDB.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Blink_Doctor_Who.jpg)
She was Sally Sparrow in Doctor Who!


Phew, that's a relief.
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: W.B.Kurgan on November 13, 2007, 04:01:04 PM
:lol: I would have told you if I'd known it was doing your nut!

I know what you mean though - there's nothing worse than recognising an actor an not knowing where you've seen them before!

I still haven't got round to watching the second hour of this yet. We watched the first half when it was on but recorded the second half.  :roll:
Title: Harry Potter and the Battle of Loos
Post by: xeoran on November 13, 2007, 09:38:11 PM
"A Young Man Fights For His Country"- somebody shoot the man who came up with the tag!  :wink: