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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: jp762 on August 20, 2011, 12:37:34 PM
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This is my old (painted years ago) speedpainted IG army. Well, a bit of it as there are over 900 infantry figures and 70 vehicles including 16 aircraft all in the same colour scheme.
I would value c&c as I intend to strip and repaint a 1500pt army. I dont game anymore but still love some of the models.
Currently I am attempting to teach myself to paint to an acceptable standard. My old stuff is gaming standard but was done with gaming at the front of my mind.
Now, I want small forces for occasional gaming. Platoon or squad level, lots of zombies, lotow, roe, rof, sotr and friendly 40k. No tournament 40k, never again.
So, what about the colour scheme?
Is it worth stripping and repainting to replicate and hopefully better this scheme or should I opt for another uniform colour?
They are all a bit shiny as I used to use satin varnish.
Please comment and criticise!
btw the sm scouts were used as veteran squads with carapace armour.
Havent includede any bog standard infantry as they are too crap for words and need the urgent attention of dettol!
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(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0849.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0850.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0852.jpg)
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(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0855.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0847.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0846.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa359/jp762/100_0843.jpg)
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I like them a lot 8)
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V|ery nice, put mine to shame, though bit heavy on the gloss.
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Cheers. Could do better though.
This was, and is, the Aryanan 8th army. A band of intollerant, xenophobic guardsmen.
I thought the name was in keeping with the mythos!
Gimme improvement tips. No longer speed painting. These took 45min each. I intend to do 1 a day from now on.
Sadly, 1 a day so far look like my speed painted efforts.
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Included, thats how its spelt........
Yeah! Thanks. It was satin from Gw and I think its a bit too shiny too.
Was considering spraying dullcote or army painter matte over them.
Any thoughts?
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I think they look pretty good. I'd perhaps suggest a little extra highlighting of the flesh. Nothing too drastic just one or two extra layers to emphasise the nose, chin, lip, brow, upper cheeks (would it be childish to say I sniggered at that? lol) and ears. Eyes look a bit boggly but if you paint a little flesh on the top of the eye to create an upper lid and bring the flesh a little higher up from the top of the cheek as well it'll narrow the eyes nicely.
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I think they look pretty good. I'd perhaps suggest a little extra highlighting of the flesh. Nothing too drastic just one or two extra layers to emphasise the nose, chin, lip, brow, upper cheeks (would it be childish to say I sniggered at that? lol) and ears. Eyes look a bit boggly but if you paint a little flesh on the top of the eye to create an upper lid and bring the flesh a little higher up from the top of the cheek as well it'll narrow the eyes nicely.
Yeah. ummmmm..... trying that now on an unvarnished one.
Thanks!
My style was always speedy tabletop. But. Thats exactly the kind of advice I was after. How to make em look good!
Cheers mate. :D
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Upper cheeks.............
fnarfnar..... lol
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I like them a lot 8)
Thank you! I tried!
8)
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Nice job, very cool color scheme.
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I think they look really good, nice contrast and a cool, atypical color scheme. If it were me, I would be happy with those and move on to working on unpainted figures :)
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Personally I'm not keen on the harsh edge highlight the GW seem to promote (I understand the reasoning behind it, I think).
What I would suggest is to try and reduce the hard edge to something more subtle and worthy of a days painting. Once you've done that (along with a bit of work on the faces as suggested before) a coat of matt varnish should finish them off fine :)
cheers
James
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A nice coat of matt varnish makes everything look good.
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I think they look really good, nice contrast and a cool, atypical color scheme. If it were me, I would be happy with those and move on to working on unpainted figures :)
I agree with the good Doctor.
There is nothing wrong with them as they are, perfectly servicable.
The only thing I would change would be adding a bit of variation to the bases, another element in addition to the static grass.
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I agree with the good Doctor.
There is nothing wrong with them as they are, perfectly servicable.
The only thing I would change would be adding a bit of variation to the bases, another element in addition to the static grass.
I agree with both of these fellows.
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I'd start with the matte spray. I prefer Testor's Dullcote to all other brands.
http://www.thewarstore.com/product33266.html
After that, it may be best to start fresh. I still have my first painted miniatures in their original form. Anytime I'm not happy with a paint job, I can always pull them out and it puts everything in perspective.
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As with your zeds, thin your paints :)
You have the basic skills needed for high end painting, and whereas these IG are perfectly fine for gaming - especially gaming with large numbers - I can understand your wish to make individual models in small bands stand out for themselves; I went through the same process shortly after signing up here.
Basically, there are two main roads to go when painting minis:
1. If you want to paint many models in as short time as possible, block out colours and use washes and drybrusning for shading/highlights.
2. If you want really nice minis that photograph well up close and personal ( ;) ), use layering/blending (this CAN be combined with washes, but you'll lose some degree of control over the colours that way. Paint the entire area with the darkest colour, then add lighter and lighter layers of the same colour (with yellow or white or bone mixed in - there are different views on this).
This is how I personally went about it:
I purchased some triads - mainly Foundry, but others are available, too, and some empty paint pots of the same type (Black Hat has them).
I then mixed some intermediary shades (this takes a bit of fiddeling, as it seems, not all paints have the same pigment density). I keep a tedious record of my mixes.
I also mixed various colour series based on GW paints, and I will use any paint range that has colours/shades that I find use for.
And then I started experimenting with the layering.
For layering, as opposed to drybrushing, it is important to thin the paint to get as smooth transitions as possible. The more layers with little difference in shade and only a little of each previous layer showing you use, the smoother the result.
(I have heard some refer to this as 'blending' as oppsed to 'wet blending', but I'm not convinced that it should be called anything else but layering).
The final highlights should be a tone or two lighter than you would normally change from one layer to the next, and only be applied to very small areas.
This takes some practice, but look at some of the finely painted minis all over this side for references where/how to apply lighter layers and highlights for nice results.
Some people don't like using pre-mixed colours, but prefer mixing on-the-fly on small palettes, but I find it time-saving to have my mixes ready out-of-the-bottle (and I don't mind that my British Scarlet looks the same every time).
Layering can be augmented by 'wet blending' - a technique where you use very thinned paints, and a second wet brush to draw out the new layer to be more and more transparent, so that the hue of the previous layer shines through, and you get a seamless transision between the layers.
I don't do that, but results can be absolutely stunning.
I hope this helps. If you experience problems with getting the results you want, try finding minis with similar effects on here, and then ask the poster about his MO.
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What a detailed and considered response. Thank you!
I have been toying with the idea of starting painting again for years but recently got back into it big time.
I am relearning and enjoying it.
All comments much appreciated!
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What a detailed and considered response. Thank you!
NP, I'm bored at work lol
No, but really, it takes some practise to get the layering right, and I'm by no means a master painter, but I've found that painting is actually more fun when getting better results (I'm a gamer, not a miniatures painter, and painting really feels like a chore, sometimes, when there's SO many other things to use the time on). And you will improve fast, just remember to thin the paints (most pots have space for adding some water - some again prefer to put some paint on a palette and add a drop there), and try to mimick effects on other peoples' models. There are some REALLY talented painters who use layering techniques round here.
I'll be painting some cheap zeds very soon, and they'll get the opposite treatment, so I can get them on the table fast, whereas nice metal zeds, and especially breathers, are given some more attention.