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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Ssendam on August 30, 2011, 02:43:03 PM
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I need to make a man eating plant as an encounter for a Pulp game I'm putting together but I'm out of ideas how to make it.
I've thought of maybe using a Walnut shell for the central part and pipe-cleaners wrapped in surgical tape for the trunk and vines. Also thought that I might make a number of bases of "roots" to attack any player who think's they are safe shooting from a distance.
Has anyone ever made something like this? I would be grateful for any advice before I Embark on the project.
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Ramshackle Games has some very nice Plants
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23&products_id=167 (http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23&products_id=167)
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Not seen pipe cleaners wrapped in surgical tape but I have seen thickish wire wrapped in masking tape to achieve a similar effect for trees - I think it was at TerraGenesis - http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/ - but I'm not finding it on a search, sorry.
I've also seen something from a Lord of the Rings game where the Watcher in the Water had tentacle bases very like your 'root' bases that appeared on the water surface. Seems very do-able and an interesting challenge for players too. Looking forward to seeing the result.
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I think there were some very impressive man-eating plants recently posted on 3t studios too.
Here's one example: http://www.3t-studios.com/archives/2257 (no open maw, but plenty of useful techniques all the same).
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Thanks for the feedback.
FramFramson: That was a great link, i think I'm going to do some of the plant leaves etc. like that.
This is what I have so far ...
(http://www.ssendam.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/man-eating-plant/maneatingplant1.jpg)
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"Feed me Seymour"
(http://www.celebrityhotnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/30d42_miley_cyrus_little_shop_horrors_xl_01.jpg)
lol I like it.
Snitchy sends
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Here's one I made from a CreepyFreaks "Daisy" mini (usually available on ebay)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee148/Doomsdave/Daisy2.jpg)
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This is what I have so far ...
Well... so far it looks awesome. ;D
Great imagination at work here. Looking forward to seeing this one finished!
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Thats totally nuts! ;)
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Well, I've moved on and made a few changes ...
- Transferred the model to a larger base.
- Teeth are removed but only so i could put some milliput in the mouth to even it out.
- Used milliput to make some tenticles. i think i'll add another 4 shorter ones later and do some work on the "trunk".
- Made some leaves with thin wire and paper in two sizes. The small ones are to put in the large tenticles and the large onres will come off the base, (should i paint these before fitting?)
(http://www.ssendam.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/man-eating-plant/maneatingplant2.jpg?1689163385)
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That sir is GENIUS! :o
Big fan of Little Shop Of Horrors (the Frank Oz Version) the puppets were so cumbersome that the scenes in which the two largest Audrey II puppets are performing with the actors are filmed at a lower speed. First at 16 frames per second, then at 12 frames per second for the final number. This meant that the actors had to move and lip sync in slow motion.
Time to ditch the anorak I think!
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This looks fantastic so far. Im looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
I have a couple of Horrorclix Pod Mothers that I run out for carnivorous plant encounters. I dont like the eyes on them though, the Little Shop look that you have is more classic.
(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/165234/4c2142df6e393_165234n.jpg)
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I need to make a man eating plant as an encounter for a Pulp game I'm putting together but I'm out of ideas how to make it.
I've thought of maybe using a Walnut shell for the central part and pipe-cleaners wrapped in surgical tape for the trunk and vines. Also thought that I might make a number of bases of "roots" to attack any player who think's they are safe shooting from a distance.
Has anyone ever made something like this? I would be grateful for any advice before I Embark on the project.
Pulp Figures do a little audrey if you were interested?
(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm12.jpg)
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Well, I've moved on and made a few changes ...
Wow... quite some changes. :o
Looking great! :-*
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Teeth back in and I've given her ... a gender ... and a forked tongue. Shown with Copplestone 28mm figure for scale.
Do you think the tongue is too much? I think it's hard to tell if it's not painted, which I will do tomorrow. I think i need to make more leaves now and get them painted.
(http://www.ssendam.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/man-eating-plant/maneatingplant3.jpg?203082106)
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that is freeking fantastic- well done- simple but effective.
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All very nice, but where is the man eating the plant?
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The idea is just GENIOUS!
AS for the tongue... I personally don't like it. Maybe if you make it shorter?
As you said, paint job may change alot the look of the mini.
Anyhow, This is just such a brilliant idea, I'll have to check some nuts to try my hand at it.
Thanks for sharing.
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The idea is just GENIOUS!
AS for the tongue... I personally don't like it. Maybe if you make it shorter?
As you said, paint job may change alot the look of the mini.
Anyhow, This is just such a brilliant idea, I'll have to check some nuts to try my hand at it.
Thanks for sharing.
What he said. The whole thing is coming along fine but for the tongue.
The fact that it hangs out of the mouth makes it look rather exhausted. I'm guessing you want that plant to be a vision of raw power.
You could try a more snake like tongue, sticking out instead of dangling out.
My 2 cts.
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I think your sculpting looks great. Brilliant use of the walnut shell!
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I like the idea of the tongue, but it currently looks a little too long too me. It looks like it might have a lisp when/if it spoke...
...which might be what you are after too I suppose.
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I know we're not aiming at 'realistic' here, but my kids both have a Venus Man-Trap, and none of them have tongues - I thik you're nearing something like this, though:
http://victoriousviking.deviantart.com/art/Venus-man-trap-161758939
The idea with the walnut is great, and I'm going to steal it, certainly!
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, it's really appreciated.
I wanted the tongue to look "drooling" which is why I wanted it long. I also wanted it to be slightly tentacle like to wrap around victims and draw them in.
I'm still sure that the pre-paint state of the model alters the perception of this but I hear the comments which echo my own uncertainty. It's easy to detach it later so for now I'm going to concentrate on the leaves and base. I may have really messed this up by not having a more textured base before I began modelling so I'm going to try and do the lower work first.
Ran out of super glue last night too .... >:(
Oh and some direct comments ...
Dr.Falkenhayn: Those Ramshackle Games ones look nice, good for idea's but a little small for my game. When I bring this out I want the players to get a real shock.
Red Orc: Terragenesis is another good site. I think I may have had the idea about the pipe cleaner and tape from there. However, as it turns out that is the worst put together part of the model. The pipe cleaner is not really strong enough to support the walnut shell. I should have doubled or tripled the pipe cleaner, and added some stiffer wire.
FramFramson: I'm doing the leaves in a similar fashion to the one in your link. The test leaf has come up really well.
snitcythedog: Yup that's the look I want, just a bit more Jungle Monster.
Doomsdave: Nice Man Eating Plant you have there, for me though the plant pot would have to go, it's just not "Jungle"!
Ray Rivers: Thanks, I'll keep posting.
Ramshackle_Curtis: Technically it's nuts-shell ;-) I had to buy a pack of the damn things, about 30 or so. I am trying to convince my wife that a Date and Walnut cake should find it's way into the oven.
The Somnambulist: I think the Little Shop of Horrors has the archetypal man eating plant so my thoughts must have been strongly influenced by it. The big mouth just screams, "I am not just going to eat you I'm going to chew you up".
cheetor: That's another nice pulp model, I know what you mean about the eyes though. I think a few highlights would really improve the model, (true of all hero click figures?)
Commander Vyper: Awww sweet mini-plant. I have seen the pulp models site and purchased more than a few models from there.
Rob_bresnen:Thanks.
janner: You have to kill it first, tastes like asparagus.
magokiron: Good idea to make the tongue shorter, I might try that later.
zizi666: Yea, I wanted drooling but instead it may look parched!
Argonor: Thanks for the picture, very interesting. I once many.... years ago have a venus fly trap too. I think that's a alternative look for the project but I went off the Walnut shell and I think perhaps you have to take it in a different direction when you do that.
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I just had a vision: Fake eye-lashes as the teeth/small tentacles surrounding the 'mouth'?
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Disaster, broken a drill bit, knocked a tentacle off and forgot to get more super glue for the leaves ...
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Next Update...
(http://www.ssendam.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/man-eating-plant/maneatingplant4.jpg?1130637569)
(http://www.ssendam.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/man-eating-plant/maneatingplant5.jpg?1177948251)
It's pretty much donne now. Since the last update I've added some thick wire to the main stem to better support the head (much better), painted/flocked the base, painted the tentacles and added the leaves and painted them. Painting the tentacles was a difficult job. I had to disassemble the model to paint and drill holes for the wire leaf stems. In hindsight, it would have been much better to make the holds with a small bit of wire when the miliput was soft.
All that's left is the mouth. I am tempted to paint it red, but I like the earth colours. Do I paint the walnut?
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You model is getting better and better. :-*
All that's left is the mouth. I am tempted to paint it red, but I like the earth colours. Do I paint the walnut?
My own experience with aliens/monsters is that when you choose a "rare, odd looking" colour for some parts of the model, the thing misses impact.
I mean, for us, theet are white-ivory right? but for an alien/monster they can be any colour.
WRONG!
When I've painted theet, entrails, bones, tongues, blood, etc, in "alien" colours, they just look funny, and don't deliver the right idea.
So, IMHO, yes, the interior of the mouth shoud be pink and red.
As for the walnut, it really is your choice, but some vibrant color can make it stand out even more.
Hope that helps.
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Looking great!
Really like the paint job so far. I'm sure you will figure out the rest by yourself... ;)
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I love it too. I'd paint the walnut in a yellowish green tone and the inside of the mouth red/pink, but that's just me. Some kind of purple could also work for the inside of the mouth. Whatever colour scheme you choose, I'm sure it'll be stunning. I might just steal your idea too!
Yours truly,
Sir Dryden
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Love the plant. It's coming alive. Can't wait to see it finished. :-*
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I love that whole walnut idea - really well done!
The title of the thread reminded me of a story about carnivals and hucksters in the turn-of-the-century American midwest (19th to 20th century in this case). One story about a huckster involved a 'tent of wonders' that was very misleading. You paid a penny to go in and see a wonder, and one of those wonders was a Man Eating Plant. You paid your 1 cent, they ushered you into a tent where there was a man sitting at a table eating some corn. lol
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Great plant!
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The painting on the leaves is very effective, good job!
LB
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Love it! :-* :-* :-*
Inspired use of the walnut!
The painting is looking good too, those leaves are fantastic.
Maybe you could put a few scenic items on the base; a discarded hat or something else to indicate that 'it' has had previous victims.....
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Mason: I have a skelatal arm clutching a spear and a skull I have painted up to add, but not sure if I should yet.
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Mason: I have a skelatal arm clutching a spear and a skull I have painted up to add, but not sure if I should yet.
I was thinking of something a previous victim had dropped, as I assumed that anything the plant swallowed would be digested.
Just my thoughts, its your plant!
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The brown colour is very nice, but one though you might do is to work a little green in nearer to the "stem" to merge the two sections better.
My best suggestion is to practice on another walnut shell and see what you like best. Do one on a green that's just a little lighter, then do one where the green is strongest near the throat/stem and fades to brown, maybe some other options like a flowery red with green spots (green spots is another way you can keep it brown but add a touch of green).
Walnuts are cheap enough - might as well take advantage of that.
Once you've tried a couple of mocked-up shells, then go for the final job!
EDIT: For what it's worth, my wife says dark green with bright yellow-green highlight spots would look good.
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LOL, that's brilliant lol lol lol
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The brown colour is very nice, but one though you might do is to work a little green in nearer to the "stem" to merge the two sections better.
My best suggestion is to practice on another walnut shell and see what you like best. Do one on a green that's just a little lighter, then do one where the green is strongest near the throat/stem and fades to brown, maybe some other options like a flowery red with green spots (green spots is another way you can keep it brown but add a touch of green).
Walnuts are cheap enough - might as well take advantage of that.
Once you've tried a couple of mocked-up shells, then go for the final job!
EDIT: For what it's worth, my wife says dark green with bright yellow-green highlight spots would look good.
And once you have practiced a couple of times, you will have a whole menagerie of Man-Eating Plants to frighten your players with! lol