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Title: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 24, 2011, 09:49:55 PM
Gentlemen and Ladies,
I was sorting through some boxes of old photographs and discovered a few rare images of Princess Victoria Luise's Leibhusaren No.2 on maneuvers, prior to the outbreak of hostilities. I have done some preliminary research, and to my knowledge these photos have not been shown before. Enjoy,
Dr. Mathias

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/LeibhusarenPhoto.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/LeibhusarenPhoto2.jpg)

Sincere thanks to Pappa Midnight for posting pictures of the steam horse carriage, based off a cheap plastic wedding favor. Clearly, an idea I was obviously more than willing to steal. The figures are the wonderful Hinterland female hussars.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Mr.Marx on September 24, 2011, 09:54:02 PM
Wonderfull. A landship suitable for women!
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Chairface on September 24, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Brilliant!  :-*
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: VSF Gamer on September 24, 2011, 10:14:18 PM
Very good job as usual. Very impressive!
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Thunderchicken on September 24, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
Superb. Great stuff!
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Malamute on September 24, 2011, 10:59:17 PM
Superb. Great stuff!

I second that, excellent idea and execution. :)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on September 25, 2011, 05:06:27 PM
Such a great extension is not theft! Homage, perhaps...  lol

Truly, in a direction I'd never had considered, but then, I'm not likely to put a teapot to use, so this group will continue to delight and astound, no?

These are just so darned much fun!

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 25, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
Thank you for the comments, I think they're a big improvement over the Husarenwagen Mk.1 that I entered in the LPL. Here is a color picture including the command group, which gives a better view of the conveyance:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/DrMathiasLeibhusarenCommand.jpg)


Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: gamer Mac on September 25, 2011, 06:38:43 PM
Brilliant job :-* :-* :-*
Have you got three of these?
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Calimero on September 25, 2011, 06:47:20 PM

Amazing work 8)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Ray Rivers on September 25, 2011, 07:23:36 PM
 :-*

Lovely! 
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: 6milPhil on September 25, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/DrMathiasLeibhusarenCommand.jpg)

First photos were good... this one is just special though.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Traveler Man on September 25, 2011, 07:50:47 PM
Beautiful work!  :-* I doubt there has ever been a more elegant battle taxi!  ;)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The Hooded Claw on September 25, 2011, 07:52:03 PM
Love these light VSF vehicles.

Inspired!

-Eli
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Bullshott on September 25, 2011, 08:50:46 PM
Very nice work and a brilliant choice of vehicles that goes perfectly with the figures.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Count Winsky on September 25, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Brilliant!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 25, 2011, 10:12:23 PM
Brilliant job :-* :-* :-*
Have you got three of these?

Thanks!
...I made five of them  o_o
One for the command, one for each squad of ten ladies. I'm not sure where the maxim sections ride though.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Mancha on September 25, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
Whew, I got to this party late!   :)

These are fantastic, Matt.  Where did you get the flags?

Having finally found the additional pics you sent me, I can compliment you on a beautiful army.  The different colored flowers on the bases, as well as the two Maxim crews, look GREAT.  I hope you'll post the additional pictures.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 25, 2011, 11:38:43 PM
These are fantastic, Matt.  Where did you get the flags?

Thanks! I found the Leibhusaren No.2 Regimental flag online:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo7abf/id80.html
I don't think that is where I found it originally though... its been a while. I had to simplify it in Photoshop and do a few test runs to get size/visibility right.

Totenkopf pennants are out there on quite a few sites (I've discovered there's an alarming number of sites dedicated to German militaria since I've embarked on this project!). I just cleaned it up a bit in Photoshop. I'd be happy to send the files to any that want them.

I hope to post some pics of the full company shortly. It took me way too long to get them all painted up... my only goal was to get them done before the sailors get released :)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Mancha on September 25, 2011, 11:46:52 PM
It took me way too long to get them all painted up... my only goal was to get them done before the sailors get released :)

Well, in that case who knows how much extra time you had?!  I cannot get the darn sailors into production, having had one delay after another over the summer.  However, there's news of iminent success from my caster, so hopefully it won't be much longer.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr DeAth on September 26, 2011, 12:43:56 AM
very impressive indeed

Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The Hooded Claw on September 26, 2011, 01:43:30 AM
BTW, where does one find these carriages and such?

I have been trying to track down the aformentioned party favors but they continue to elude me. Are they also available in smaller sizes that might match up to 15mm? Perhaps as cupcake decorations?

-Eli
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on September 26, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
BTW, where does one find these carriages and such?

I have been trying to track down the aformentioned party favors but they continue to elude me. Are they also available in smaller sizes that might match up to 15mm? Perhaps as cupcake decorations?

-Eli

I'm sure there are smaller somewhere, but I've not seen them. Also, I'm about to purchase a small bundle, probably more than I need. How many were you wanting? PM if you wish.

By the way, it helps to look for 'wedding', as these tend to be made for showers.

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 26, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
Michael's and Hobby Lobby (American craft and hobby stores) used to carry plastic wedding carriages, but I couldn't find them when I looked for this project. I had them in mind a few years ago for something similar but didn't buy them- a rare case where my packrat instinct failed me. 

Here's where I got them- the seller also has a 12-pack which I wish I had purchased :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Silver-Cinderella-Coach-Wedding-Favors-Cake-Topper-/310318636004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48406e9be4
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Bugsda on September 26, 2011, 04:41:02 PM
Wonderfull. A landship suitable for women!

Yep! Wonderful and very stylish but let's see them park it.  ;)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on September 26, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Bugsda
Yep! Wonderful and very stylish but let's see them park it.  ;)

 lol (apologies to ladies present)

Here's the components list for those interested. The machine gun plate is magnetized in case I ever want to replace it with a VSF heat ray or lightning gun.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/Husarenwagenparts.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Bosal/Husarenwagen2parts.jpg)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Mr.Marx on September 26, 2011, 06:24:20 PM
lol (apologies to ladies present)

Yep! Wonderful and very stylish but let's see them park it.  ;)

I also extend my apologies.

I always felt VSF went down best with a little ironic 'of the era thinking'.....

Mm
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Nighthawk on September 26, 2011, 11:20:11 PM
WOW!!!!!!! Very impressive. Are they scratch built? If so what did you use as the base model?  ;D
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Sterling Moose on September 26, 2011, 11:39:31 PM
Been offline for a couple of days and I come back to this!!  Fantastic work!! :-*
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: jscottbowman on September 27, 2011, 01:41:52 AM
Excellent work, both the lovely ladies and their devilishly gorgeous contraptions
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on September 27, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
Michael's and Hobby Lobby (American craft and hobby stores) used to carry plastic wedding carriages, but I couldn't find them when I looked for this project. I had them in mind a few years ago for something similar but didn't buy them- a rare case where my packrat instinct failed me. 

Here's where I got them- the seller also has a 12-pack which I wish I had purchased :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Silver-Cinderella-Coach-Wedding-Favors-Cake-Topper-/310318636004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48406e9be4

Yeah, the twelve pack I was looking at was from zofiaschoice, same price, cheaper shipping to me. ;->=

Sir Randall has admitted his own delight in these designs, so I gather, if I do pop for the bunch, they'll probably all be used locally.

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 08, 2011, 06:55:45 PM
I'm going to blatantly steal this idea.  Thank you.

Now...how many of these would my Martian Hinterlander force really need, and/or be able to field at once?

Some research indicates that at least for US buyers the 6- and 12-packs from eBay are the best price point -  ~$13, or $2.20 each for 6 that I will use, or ~$21 or $1.73 each for 12, where I will never use them all...

Hmm.

I know you all know exactly the dilemma here.  It's ok, you can admit it.

Mancha's releasing sailors (soon?!), so I have to make an aeronef for them of course.

Stop looking at me like that...
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Mancha on November 08, 2011, 07:01:31 PM
Mancha's releasing sailors (soon?!), so I have to make an aeronef for them of course.


Supposedly any friggin' day now, but I was saying that months ago.    :(
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on November 09, 2011, 03:52:13 PM
***snippage***
Some research indicates that at least for US buyers the 6- and 12-packs from eBay are the best price point -  ~$13, or $2.20 each for 6 that I will use, or ~$21 or $1.73 each for 12, where I will never use them all...

***snippage***

Well, the first one I showed my mother, she was so enchanted, she had to have it. ;->= Really, try in on a few females you want to dazzle.

I'm becoming surprised the ideas that are coming to me. Small airship gondola was the first. And, speaking of gondolas, the request on the Bazar got me thinking of covered 'falze' on water gondolas, then of Renaissance punts I've seen in period movies, and realized these, while not accurate, could look smashing.  lol

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 09, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
I went ahead and ordered the 12-pack, so I can make four steam-carraiges, a couple mini-nefs, and then I can somehow work up a way to incorporate these into a Martian larger flyer of some sort.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on November 09, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
I went ahead and ordered the 12-pack, so I can make four steam-carraiges, a couple mini-nefs, and then I can somehow work up a way to incorporate these into a Martian larger flyer of some sort.

If you have a couple that you just can't seem to use, I'll take them off your hands in trade. I wish I'd purchased a larger quantity :P
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 13, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
Dr Mathias, could you give any more details please on how you constructed the front?  It looks like you removed the entire front panel somehow, but short of disassembling the whole coach and then cutting the central "keel" plastic I don't see how you managed to do that on four coaches without breaking the model.  I've got a few in progress, and as duplication is the best compliment, I'd like to know how you managed to do it.

Also, were you primarily measuring in metric or imperial?  I've got a 1" box on the back and it looks larger than what you used.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on November 14, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
I did indeed remove the front panel. I used a Dremel with a cutoff wheel to slice the panel out, flush with the sides. As I recall one side is solid mounted, one side was glued, and in some cases I could pry the glued side apart. It wasn't what I'd call easy to do, but the bottom should support the carriage without breaking it after the front part is cut off. The new front is composed of three rectangular panels.

(http://www.robotroom.com/Flip-Flop/Cutting-Panel-In-Tin-With-Cut-Off-Disc.jpg)

The round PVC cupola was the most difficult part and required some very careful work on a bandsaw and table saw. I have an exacto mitre box and a saw but it isn't as precise as it used to be and I was getting off-square cuts.  Once that was attached I glued a very thin piece of plasticard on top to enclose the cupola. What looks like a compound shape composed of a rectangle and semicircle is actually two pieces butted up against each other and the seam sealed with putty.

Not sure about the measurement on the engine housing, I can get that tomorrow as the carriages are at my workplace. I suspect it was somewhere around 7/8 of an inch. I cut the sides in an irregular shape so they would fit the curvature of the undercarriage- I made a template that fit and traced it for all the pieces.

I'm glad I made all five at once, I never would have made four more if I had completed one by itself.

I wish I was in the habit of taking WIP shots, I get working and pretty much forget to record the process. I'm happy to answer any questions that come up.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on November 14, 2011, 03:47:58 AM
Snickies, Matt!

I'd no idea this was so tricky. I innocently gave three coaches to a friend who offered to build one for me if I gave him another to build for himself. "Build a squadron and we'll work it out as we go along...' says I.

Hope he works out something less painful to do.

Wait a min, you were asking for more? Masochist!

I may have extras in the by and by...  lol

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 14, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
(This post is intended as explanation and homage to the original, not threadjacking.)

Here's what I have so far as proof of concept.  The only difficult cut was the cap for the cupola.  For the cupola I ended up using back-to-back pegs I cut from the spools out of a VHS tape.

I notice, by the way, that these models are not square - the left and right sides do not match up with each other.
x-acto knife, razor saw, and hacksaw are the only tools I've used so far.

(http://www.reapermini.com/~froggy/Images/WIP/WIP-Husarenwagon01.jpg)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on November 14, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
(This post is intended as explanation and homage to the original, not threadjacking.)

As I would have thought. No problem I can see.

Here's what I have so far as proof of concept.  The only difficult cut was the cap for the cupola.  For the cupola I ended up using back-to-back pegs I cut from the spools out of a VHS tape.

I've had nothing but issues with VHS tape case parts. You have my admiration; those suckers are made to last.

I notice, by the way, that these models are not square - the left and right sides do not match up with each other.
x-acto knife, razor saw, and hacksaw are the only tools I've used so far.

He called them models.  lol

I'm trying to keep the top for my attempt at a cabin gondola, but the 'lid' doesn't fit at all well once the pins are removed. Several of my lot had the wheels glued at strange angles. QC is not a concern at the plant, obviously. Still, I'm having fun dismantling with mine, and your example has quieted, somewhat, my fears for my gaming partner.  :D

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 14, 2011, 07:52:47 PM
He called them models.  lol
They've got to be models, otherwise they're Toys, and that's a long dark road that leaves the kids confused and my guy-cred on shaky grounds...

I did use a two-direction level to get the wheels on straight, if that helps at all.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on November 14, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
Hey! That looks really good! You're on exactly the right track.

I agree the back seems to project a little more than mine. I measured it at 13/16" along the top edge. Good idea using VHS spools.

And yes, the originals are not very well made... if you were to inspect any one of my carriages up close you'd see that they lean slightly one way or another... They clearly are not a product of German engineering (as they are in my fantasy world :P )
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: mpennock on November 14, 2011, 10:11:33 PM
This is a very dangerous thread for me to be reading, considering how many of those carriages I have in my project drawer and all of those unpainted Hinterland Hussars pining for attention on my painting table....

My compliments, gentlemen, on some very inspiring work.
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on November 15, 2011, 06:07:11 PM
They've got to be models, otherwise they're Toys, and that's a long dark road that leaves the kids confused and my guy-cred on shaky grounds...

Neither; these are decorations, designed to invoke a woman's fantasy, not her judgement. The fact that you're crazy enough to actually attempt to build from this cheap, shoddy beginning, and visions of armored death at that, shows your guy-cred perfectly intact.  :D

I did use a two-direction level to get the wheels on straight, if that helps at all.

So far, boat and airship look to be requiring no wheels. Though, the flower pattern on those must have a use. Pennsylvania Dutch demon ward, I think...

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 16, 2011, 03:20:05 AM
Here's what I've got so far on mine.  I think they're ready for final cleanup and then a marathon epoxy/rivet session.  I will of course gladly accept suggestions.

(http://www.reapermini.com/~froggy/Images/WIP/WIP-Husarenwagon02.jpg)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Chairface on November 16, 2011, 03:06:11 PM
Those look fantastic Froggy. No suggestions from me. You know what you're doing.  :)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Sangennaru on November 16, 2011, 03:45:48 PM
i'm really curious to see them painted, the effect is really interesting!

I've looked in the thread, but i couldn't find any source where to purchase those wedding stuff... i'd love to have some! =)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 16, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Clear-Plastic-Cinderella-Carriage-Wedding-Favor-/310336504935?_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DI%252BUA%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D330619929754%252B140418334303%252B150481963356%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4236723215084529154
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on November 16, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Clear-Plastic-Cinderella-Carriage-Wedding-Favor-/310336504935?_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DI%252BUA%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D330619929754%252B140418334303%252B150481963356%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4236723215084529154

I bought mine from zofiaschoice, who lists as shipping internationally.  :D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Cinderella-Coach-Wedding-carriage-Plastic-clear-/140418334303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b195be5f

No connection other than a customer; do search for better deals, though, when I bought, I didn't find one.

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Froggy the Great on November 17, 2011, 04:15:56 PM
Rather than continue to hijack Dr Mathias's thread for his excellent vehicles, I have created my own thread >here<. (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35077)
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Der Feldmarschall on December 03, 2011, 10:44:48 PM
Absolutely stunning and inspiring job on these figs and vehicles.  I hope to paint up my own little Hinterland force someday.  Right now I'm thinking of something very similar with a bit more red like the 1st Leibhusaren.

Again great stuff!  Look forward to more additions to the force.


Jason
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: surdu on October 01, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
Gentlemen and Ladies,
I was sorting through some boxes of old photographs and discovered a few rare images of Princess Victoria Luise's Leibhusaren No.2 on maneuvers, prior to the outbreak of hostilities. I have done some preliminary research, and to my knowledge these photos have not been shown before. Enjoy,
Dr. Mathias

I've been wanting to copy this idea since you posted the original pictures.  Sunday my daughter and I worked on making two of the steam carriages ourselves.  I'll be painting them this week as work permits.  I'll post some pictures soon.

Buck Surdu
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on October 01, 2012, 05:12:54 PM
I WONDERED how this thread resurfaced.  :o

Buck, delighted you've found a way to enlist assistance. As I've said before, about the closest I got to sharing gaming with my lass was hot-bedding at conventions.

Matt, if you visit this again, and you've done something with the few I sent you, please share!

Doug
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Dr Mathias on October 01, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
Good fortune as you work on yours Buck- I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Thank you for the interest gentlemen, and I have a variant in the works as I write this. Too many unfinished projects...
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Laughing Ferret on October 01, 2012, 10:46:44 PM
just beautiful.
 love the black for both the carriage and uniforms too
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: surdu on October 08, 2012, 12:04:47 AM
Inspired by this work, I made my own coaches.  See  http://bucksurdu.com/blog/

Buck Surdu
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: Chairface on October 08, 2012, 02:48:15 AM
Looking good Buck!
Title: Re: Rare Leibhusaren steam carriage photos
Post by: The_Beast on October 10, 2012, 02:31:06 PM
@Matt One who gets NOTHING done can not in good conscience rush someone who's done so much! When you can, when you can...

@Buck Really, that's maroon? I guess my monitor needs adjusting. Had a bit of a seeth: 'Too...  Much...  Pink...'

lol

However, having experienced both a daughter AND experiencing a granddaughter, I'd have to excuse ANYTHING.

Damn untamed forces of nature...

Doug