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Title: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: joroas on October 06, 2011, 09:03:22 AM
Anyone seen this?

There is also a new file and brush.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: dijit on October 06, 2011, 09:11:11 AM
where have you seen it?
Duncan
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: cheetor on October 06, 2011, 09:25:09 AM

where have you seen it?
Duncan


The emery files and the Liquid Green Stuff were mentioned in a GW blog entry (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500030a) from a few days ago.  The link may not work, depending on what part of the planet you are currently at.  It can be a finicky site.

I am interested to see what the LGS is like and how well it works.  It sounds to me like an interesting product that I have not come across before.  Who knows what uses people might come up with for it?


Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Galland on October 06, 2011, 09:27:10 AM
The liquid greenstuff was in our local GW shop here in Stockholm yesterday... and was gone equally fast. The new file and brush was rather good actually, but nothing that I need, I can use the back side of a scalpell for that. However, its a rather good tool and I am sure people will find a good use for it.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: dijit on October 06, 2011, 10:06:57 AM

The emery files and the Liquid Green Stuff were mentioned in a GW blog entry (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500030a) from a few days ago.  The link may not work, depending on what part of the planet you are currently at.  It can be a finicky site.

I am interested to see what the LGS is like and how well it works.  It sounds to me like an interesting product that I have not come across before.  Who knows what uses people might come up with for it?

Thanks, that looks interesting, I'd like to see how well it works.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: joroas on October 06, 2011, 10:37:14 AM
It was in this month's White Dwarf, arrived yesterday, but available in GW stores from 1/10/11.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: geronimo on October 06, 2011, 12:54:22 PM
brush was rather good actually.....However, its a rather good tool and I am sure people will find a good use for it.

Brass-bristled polishing brush, usually in packs of 2 or 3 from poundland or similar shops. Does the same job and is considerably cheaper !
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 06, 2011, 01:07:19 PM
It was in this month's White Dwarf, arrived yesterday, but available in GW stores from 1/10/11.

What's the idea behind it?

cheers

James
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: joroas on October 06, 2011, 01:42:06 PM
I have no idea, time was I got my WD earlier than the shop, now it is a week later..........
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: revford on October 06, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
From the blurb on the GW site, it seems to be some kind of brush on filler, which won't knacker your good brushes as it washes out in water.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: YPU on October 06, 2011, 02:08:58 PM
From the blurb on the GW site, it seems to be some kind of brush on filler, which won't knacker your good brushes as it washes out in water.

I am thinking it might be a very thick variation of their foundation paints, which I have used blobs of as a sort of filler in the past. I might however be completely wrong.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Hammers on October 06, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
That sort of filler is usually marketed for resin figs, for filling in air bubbles an such. Surely they have their new resin range in mind...
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 06, 2011, 02:48:52 PM
That sort of filler is usually marketed for resin figs, for filling in air bubbles an such. Surely they have their new resin range in mind...

But I thought it was perfect  :?

cheers

James
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Mr.J on October 06, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me, whether or not it works is another matter but I might buy a pot and see, for £2.30 it's no real loss if it doesn't.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: fastolfrus on October 06, 2011, 09:45:27 PM
Haven't seen the GW one, but there is a Valejho liquid plastic filler that works very well.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Hammers on October 07, 2011, 07:43:59 AM
Haven't seen the GW one, but there is a Valejho liquid plastic filler that works very well.

I like that one to. But do you use it for anything but styrene? How does that work?
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Ace From Outer Space on October 16, 2011, 05:13:46 PM
Hi guys, i've used the Vallejo filler on lead as well as hard and soft plastic figures with no problems at all. I know two people who bought the LGS from GW and they felt it was  a pricier version of the Vallejo product. I'll stick with Vallejo...
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Silent Invader on October 16, 2011, 06:03:12 PM
I have used both.

I would say that vallejo is thinner and so washes out of brushes easier.  i think that the GW is more adhesive.

Both do the job but require care in use as excess application can be awkward to remove even when still wet.

For bubble holes and wider gaps  I would be inclined to use GW and for the very narrow gap where say an arm and torso have been glued, the Vallejo.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Watery Graves on October 19, 2011, 07:58:54 AM
I've used it on metal and had no complaints. It's a very decent gap filler and easy to use. Not a substitute for actual green stuff when you need to sculpt in some details, but very nice for gaps and surface smoothing.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Thunderchicken on October 19, 2011, 08:51:44 AM
The owner of my local wargaming shop gave me a sample to try out and I've been using it to fill the small gaps where styrene sheets meet on my latest Victorian build. Works nicely and sets suitably quickly.

A lad at the store was using the stuff to paint raised details on Hoplite shields, it looked good.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Argonor on October 19, 2011, 12:58:12 PM
A lad at the store was using the stuff to paint raised details on Hoplite shields, it looked good.

Now, THAT is interesting - a new way to create those intricate musters (filigree, runes, whatever) on various pieces of gear and terrain.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 19, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
Yes, it could certainly be very useful in that case  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: anevilgiraffe on October 20, 2011, 06:49:34 AM
Now, THAT is interesting - a new way to create those intricate musters (filigree, runes, whatever) on various pieces of gear and terrain.

yeah, it's workable to an extent... I picked up a pot out of interest...you can draw it up a little bit, but you don't get much shape out of it as it collapses back as it's more liquid than solid... but a few lines drawn with it produced some decent raised areas...
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: 6milPhil on October 20, 2011, 10:13:47 AM
I've bought some and tried it, and it'll have a use but I'll be sticking to mainly using liquid milliput, which I mix down with alcohol to the consistency I actually want.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Argonor on October 20, 2011, 01:29:06 PM
I'll be sticking to mainly using liquid milliput,

Didn't know that it exists - another interesting thing!  :)
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: 6milPhil on October 20, 2011, 04:03:07 PM
Oh it doesn't- I mix it myself... mix it as usual and then mix it in a cup with alcohol to whichever consistency is needed. Did try it with water for a while but it seems to mix best with alcohol, and as that evaporates it speeds up drying time.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 20, 2011, 07:54:14 PM
Bought some today, I was wondering whether it would be good for rotten flesh as well as the usual gaps and fillings.

Also had a nice no pressured chat with a Blue shirt who was well...human!  :o  Strange things are afoot.

;)
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: dijit on October 20, 2011, 08:29:05 PM
Also had a nice no pressured chat with a Blue shirt who was well...human!  :o  Strange things are afoot.

;)
You sure it was a GW store you went into?  :D
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: 6milPhil on October 20, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Also had a nice no pressured chat with a Blue shirt who was well...human!  :o  Strange things are afoot.

I've heard they have one of those who moves from store to store endlessly. Mine was a tall chap WHO SPOKE VERY LOUDLY ALL THE TIME.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Argonor on October 21, 2011, 08:24:14 AM
I've heard they have one of those who moves from store to store endlessly. Mine was a tall chap WHO SPOKE VERY LOUDLY ALL THE TIME.

He is accustomed to the roaring hordes of pre-teens...  ::)
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: rob_alderman on October 27, 2011, 08:28:48 PM
Bought some today, I was wondering whether it would be good for rotten flesh as well as the usual gaps and fillings.

Also had a nice no pressured chat with a Blue shirt who was well...human!  :o  Strange things are afoot.

;)

I'm pretty sure I was human last time I checked!  lol
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: joroas on October 27, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure I was human last time I checked! 

Your avatar suggests otherwise.............  ;D
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Connectamabob on October 28, 2011, 03:20:27 PM
I'm curious, is this stuff water based? Is it a two part material (like the epoxy it's named for), or an emulsion?

If you got to the auto section of your local hardware or big box store, you should be able to find "spot & glazing putty", which is basically the same thing as ye olde Squadron Green putty. 'S like three bucks for a tube a little smaller than a toothpaste tube. Spackle a little on the crack/bubble you need to fill with a toothpick, wipe it flush with a paper towel corner dipped in nail polish remover, and you're golden.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: necrocannibal on October 28, 2011, 04:04:38 PM
I'm curious, is this stuff water based? Is it a two part material (like the epoxy it's named for), or an emulsion?

Yes, it's water based and it's a thick viscous liquid (so it's not a two part material). Pretty easy to brush on and fill gaps and you can use water to smoothen transitions. I really like this stuff.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Connectamabob on October 29, 2011, 04:59:52 AM
Is it sold through other vendors, or just GW stores? Sounds worth a look, but there are no GW places in my area.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Galland on November 04, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
Me and Kalle just got a few pots of this, to say the least, exellent stuff. Works like a charm, easy to use and are waterbased so very easy to apply.
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: JollyBob on November 04, 2011, 02:14:53 PM
I'm actually quite impressed with this. I was trying it out last night on a figure that had some serious pitting and scarring from a mold past its best, and it seems to have sorted it right out. A little scraping to remove any spills and splashes and it should come up lovely. 
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: anevilgiraffe on November 06, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
just had a thought - wonder if it'll be ok for pressmolds? always get bits where I didn't push the g/s into the detail... I wonder if you can get a thick enough coat and then g/s the mass...
Title: Re: GW Liquid Greenstuff
Post by: Connectamabob on November 06, 2011, 07:08:25 PM
Most epoxy putties can be thinned to a slurry with alcohol (dunno about Milliput but GS, Aves, Magic Sculpt, and ProCreate can), so I'd probably try that first. This being an emulsion (thickened paint, basically) rather than a resin, shrinkage and durability might become issues in such an application. Depends on how thick of a layer you're talking about, I'd guess.

It actually kinda bugs me that they're calling this "Green Stuff" when it's not an epoxy and isn't even made by the company that makes Green Stuff proper. From a marketing perspective It's understandable (people use GS to fill gaps, and this fills gaps too!), but at the risk of being impolitic, the gaming community is kind of an information ghetto when it comes to modeling. Way too many (even longtime) gamers still don't know a hawk from a handsaw when it comes to even basic materials outside of paints, so calling something that's not an epoxy "Green Stuff" (it actually sounds a lot like a gap-filling acrylic primer) seems like an invitation to confusion.