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Title: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on October 08, 2011, 05:50:15 PM
Hello,

You will probably think "another Aliens project"  ;)

I have to admit that some existing threads inspired me but I had this project ages ago and didn't find the time to start it.

It might be a bit different this time as this project covers characters from three of the movies : Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. The last part should be a crossover between Aliens, AvP and The Thing...you will see later on. It should include miniatures, the USCM APC (scratchbuilt), some vehicles, colonists, terrain and of course aliens (Horrorclix and some Eureka or LEG aliens for the dog aliens).

I started with the USCM colonial marines, trying to respect the Colonial Marines Technical Manual platoon formation. The miniatures are from EM4 as they are the closest USCM miniatures on the market IMHO : same armor, same helmet...the Woodbines ones are too chunky and the Copplestone ones have a different equipment (but I used 3 of them).

I replaced the rifles by Hasslefree pulse rifles when I could, and converted some others.

The platoon will consist of 26 miniatures (plus some alternate weapons such as scope rifles, a bazooka (M82A3 SADAR), a flamer, shotguns, or plasma rifles). I am still waiting for some miniatures I ordered such as the synthetic human (Heresy miniature) and the dropship pilots (Hasslefree).

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/USCMPlatoon.jpg)

Here are pictures of the WIP.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP01.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP02.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP03.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP04.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP05.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP06.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/WIP07.jpg)


Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on October 08, 2011, 05:52:06 PM
I'll be watching this with interest ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 08, 2011, 06:03:12 PM
Hei Eric,

very good start on that project, nice conversions on the gun.

Have to just disagree on one thing, the EM4 minis have not the same armour as USMC, but they are very close  ;)

Will follow your thread with interest :)

Oh, do you have some pics of the Eureka Aliens, never saw them.
Are they going well with the LE ones?

I for myself go with the Denizen minis as USMC ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 08, 2011, 06:32:43 PM
Oh, do you have some pics of the Eureka Aliens, never saw them.
Are they going well with the LE ones?

I for myself go with the Denizen minis as USMC ;)

I'll take pictures but don't expect finding any : I bought them a few years ago and had to send an email to Eureka as their aliens miniatures were not in the shop. They used to make eggs too.

The Denizens ones are nice but removing the base to rebase them on a resin Fenris base is a real pain...that's one of the reasons why I didn't use the Copplestone miniatures but I keep them for a Jungle Bug Hunt project.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 08, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
I'll take pictures but don't expect finding any : I bought them a few years ago and had to send an email to Eureka as their aliens miniatures were not in the shop. They used to make eggs too.

The Denizens ones are nice but removing the base to rebase them on a resin Fenris base is a real pain...that's one of the reasons why I didn't use the Copplestone miniatures but I keep them for a Jungle Bug Hunt project.

Would be great.
They list some Aliens in their shop, but without pics, don't know if they are the same ???

And yes, removing the base will take some time, want to put mine also on Fenris bases.
I'll even remove the bases from the LE Aliens :)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Mr.J on October 08, 2011, 08:22:13 PM
I'll most definitely be keeping an eye on this one. Looks like you've got off to a great start.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: TheMightyFlip on October 08, 2011, 08:44:13 PM
Have you considered adding some of the Hasslefree marines? they have a nice selection of female troopers, and dont forget, each platoon needs a corpsman.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 08, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
Very nice GS work on the pulse rifles Eric, very impressed. Good use of the colonial marines handbook too ;) Yeah I've based mine on that org chart too.

Subtle conversions re: shotgun, (nice for close encounters, EAT THIS!!) ;)

Just to say I've got some DS sulacco bases I won't be using so drop me a pm if you need any more.

The Commander
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 08, 2011, 09:44:37 PM
Have you considered adding some of the Hasslefree marines? they have a nice selection of female troopers, and dont forget, each platoon needs a corpsman.

He's got some pilots on order from hasslefree bud.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 08, 2011, 09:53:14 PM
Yes I already bought all Hasslefree Marines and some more HF miniatures such as Ripley, Newt,...

I also have Sabotage miniatures for my colonists (they were sculpted by Kevin White and so are totally compatible).

Thanks Mark. I ordered more Fenris Bases from Ian and they are on the way. BTW did you finish your Aliens project ? I don't see more photos in your thread and I really like your facehuggers conversions.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 08, 2011, 10:02:57 PM
Bubbling away under the surface mate, will return to it at some stage. I'll make doing with living vicariously though yours for the moment. ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 08, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Hei Eric,

very good start on that project, nice conversions on the gun.

Have to just disagree on one thing, the EM4 minis have not the same armour as USMC, but they are very close  ;)


Little differences like the helmet light rather than the shoulder light and other minor bits and pieces, but pretty damn good and the weapon of choice for a lot of these projects it has to be said.

Eric: terrain and scenery plans?
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 08, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
Little differences like the helmet light rather than the shoulder light and other minor bits and pieces, but pretty damn good and the weapon of choice for a lot of these projects it has to be said.

Eric: terrain and scenery plans?

Yeah, and wrong codpieces, missing shoulderlamps etc ;)
Even the LE ones are not 100%.

The only "real" USMC out there are from Phebus, but they are 1:35.
Will get some of these as soon as he made some Aliens too
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 08, 2011, 10:26:41 PM
Terrain plans...the hardest part. I wish I could make this kind of terrain Braz did :

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=20983.0

But with the lack of time and room I'll forget it. I am thinking about a simple corridor system in 3D (like Space Hulk). Or simple buildings without detailled interiors. I have to think about it. The action could also take place elsewhere....on earth !!

But if I win at the casino :

http://bostalcorps.free.fr/?page_id=29

http://www.battlebuild.com/id2.html

Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 08, 2011, 10:57:39 PM
Nice stuff, think I also have to win in the casino.
Just need a casino now :?
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 09, 2011, 04:48:32 PM
Comsquare asked me for photos of the Eureka Aliens :

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/IMG_4286.jpg)

As you can see they come as multipart miniatures : body, head, arms and tail, in 3 different styles. They are the same size as LEG Aliens (on the photo too).

Eureka used to make eggs and facehuggers too. Here is a photo next to a EM4 marine :

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/IMG_4287.jpg)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: hubbabubba on October 09, 2011, 05:51:31 PM
Nice work on the marines. The eureka aliens look nice. Could I trouble you for some photos of the Sabotage miniatures :D
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 09, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
Could I trouble you for some photos of the Sabotage miniatures :D

Be patient they are still on my workbench...but here is a link to these miniatures :

http://www.terragnosis.co.uk/figure_range_for_sale.html

Click on the 9th and 15th photos (they are the ones I bought).

The molds have been bought by Sergeant Major Miniatures but are not in their shop yet.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 09, 2011, 06:09:43 PM
Hei Eric,

thanks for the pics of the Eureka Aliens, they look nice.
Have you bought the rest they stocked?

Otherwise will I try and contact them :)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 09, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
I bought only 3 and many years ago. I am not sure they still have them but you can send them an email.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: AKULA on October 09, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
Eureka Aliens

Stopped selling ages ago - at the time they stopped some of their other ranges, such as Stargate.

Don't waste your time typing the email.

 ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 09, 2011, 07:20:40 PM
Too late  lol
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Big Frank on October 09, 2011, 07:57:48 PM
Great sellection of minis.
 Looking forward to seeing some painted up and your APC's.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Marine0846 on October 09, 2011, 10:55:35 PM
Love what you have done so far.
The Aliens movies are some of my favorite movies.
Am really looking forward to see what you do.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 10, 2011, 06:44:26 PM
Bloody big facehuggers!

They going for Trolls as host?  ;)

Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 10, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
Bloody big facehuggers!

They going for Trolls as host?  ;)



Or ogres may be.   ;) I do have smaller ones.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Col. Aubrey Bagshot on October 10, 2011, 09:23:08 PM
Perhaps even "space jockey" size....
given next years Prometheus.... ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: 6milPhil on October 10, 2011, 09:42:46 PM
So do eureka no longer make the aliens?
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 10, 2011, 09:51:31 PM
So do eureka no longer make the aliens?

Nope  :'(

Got their answer yesterday, no Aliens, Facehuggers, Eggs etc...
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Hat Guy on October 11, 2011, 02:34:16 AM
Eureka dropped their Aliens, Stargate and Planet of the Apes ranges after getting a Cease and Desist from Fox over the Apes.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: Calimero on October 11, 2011, 02:43:49 AM

I think IP is very important but still I wonder which place wargaming figures would occupy in the sea of derivative Aliens products…
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: manatic on October 11, 2011, 08:55:53 AM
Eureka dropped their Aliens, Stargate and Planet of the Apes ranges after getting a Cease and Desist from Fox over the Apes.

Wait, what? They produced exact copies of xenomorphs, facehuggers and Stargate stuff, and the Apes are what they got called on? :D
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (WIP 08/10)
Post by: YIU on October 11, 2011, 09:13:47 AM
Wait, what? They produced exact copies of xenomorphs, facehuggers and Stargate stuff, and the Apes are what they got called on? :D

Being a former member of the Stargate Yahoo group I heard that they have been called on Stargate miniatures like other manufacturers, the new Stargate miniatures being manufactured by a new company (and sold by Cold War).

I ordered my Xenomorphs years before this mess and they were not in Eureka shop anymore : I sent an email to get them. Now they are oop.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on October 18, 2011, 09:49:22 PM
Some news. First I converted a Hasslefree marine with a home made M56.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/IMG_4293.jpg)
I painted the bases of my Colonial Marines platoon and started to paint some miniatures.

The first ones to be finished are the platoon commander and the android (synthetic human).

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/IMG_4290.jpg)

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm165/moavoa/Aliens/IMG_4292.jpg)

More to come soon.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: Comsquare on October 18, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
Pretty, pretty nice :D
Specially the armour
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: ironmammoth on October 19, 2011, 01:01:26 PM
Have you guys seen these:-

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2741 (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2741)

(http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/images/Grendel%20Sci%20Fi/10050_alien_hive.jpg)

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2736 (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2736)

(http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/images/Grendel%20Sci%20Fi/f0049.jpg)

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2737 (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_42&products_id=2737)

(http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/images/Grendel%20Sci%20Fi/f0050.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/grendel/kk1004.jpg)


May be useful to Aliens gamers, although I am not sure about the availability of the last one...
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: cdm on October 19, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
They still sell the egg floors, they just don't describe it very well, or have pics.

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_113_120

KKI-004 - Chamber Floor 38mm, 19mm
Chamber Floor 38mm, 19mm.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on October 19, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
I already saw them and they are great.

Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 19, 2011, 04:01:51 PM
Nicely done Eric, really like the armour flashes.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: Rob_Jedi on September 30, 2013, 03:53:28 AM
Thread necromancy  o_o

Just wondering what happened to this project? It was a big inspiration that pushed me to hack into my Copplestone/Future Wars marines.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on September 30, 2013, 07:28:52 AM
As usual...too many projects at the same time. The miniatures are primed but not painted...shame on me.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 30, 2013, 08:15:38 AM
Story of my life! :D
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: cheetor on September 30, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
That is really lovely painting on both of those guys.  The armour on the lieutenant is fantastic.  I would love to know how you did it if you didnt mind sharing.  The colours used on the rest of the uniform would be very useful too if you were willing.

The movie marine uniform has two types of camo which works in that context because the film is quite dark.  On 28mm figures I think that the two camo types look too busy and cluttered: it actually starts to disrupt the lines on the figure visually, like real camouflage.  Its interesting that it actually works but I dont want my miniatures to disappear on the table.  The opposite in fact.

Were you planning to use the lieutenants scheme on the marines too or were you going to add the second camo pattern?



As usual...too many projects at the same time. The miniatures are primed but not painted...shame on me.

Having a stalled Aliens project is almost a pre-requisite for posting around here ;)

Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on September 30, 2013, 10:40:24 AM
Thanks Cheetor.

As far as I remember the uniform base colour is Prince August /Vallejo US-American Uniform.

I paint shadows mixing PA US Uniform with black (or use PA Olive Drab which is darker) and highlight it with PA Ivory or white.

The armour of the lieutenant (which should be the same for troopers too) is painted in green (such as PA olive green) The camo scheme is painted with stripes of Scorched Brown and Snakebite leather (such as GW paints) and PA WW2 german beige camo. This last colour will be used as the base for the sergeants and marines uniforms (not green this time).

As you can see I used PA paints (german and US ranges) as they are the best for military uniforms (and have a large choice of military colours).

A link to PA paints :

http://shop.princeaugust.ie/paints-and-brushes/?sort=featured&page=1

I hope it helps. If I had time I would make a tutorial...but I am painting Gladiators for now (same as Aliens project)...all were primed since ages but I decided to paint them this month and I know I won't finish them if I restart my Aliens project.
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: cheetor on September 30, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
Thanks for all the information YIU.  Very helpful.


I hope it helps. If I had time I would make a tutorial...but I am painting Gladiators for now (same as Aliens project)...all were primed since ages but I decided to paint them this month and I know I won't finish them if I restart my Aliens project.

I completely understand that.  Sticking with the gladiators right now is definitely a better plan.



Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 30, 2013, 12:10:21 PM
No keep flitting from one project to another, much less productive.  ;)
Title: Re: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien resurrection project (update 18/10)
Post by: YIU on September 30, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
No keep flitting from one project to another, much less productive.  ;)

I agree...back to gladiators  ;)