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Title: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 08, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
Edit: All the floorplans I made have been uploaded to my webspace, the links are available here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84702.0

I'm searching for decent quality floorplans for all kinds of modern buildings. They should ideally represent a straight top-down view of the building interior, with details like props etc. I found a bunch of cool stuff on rpgmapshare.com, but the maps are mostly 72 DPI whereas I want to create 2D maps in 28mm scale. Any ideas? I would even pay for them if they are really good. I already got the modern floorplans from rpgnow (don't like em, cheap quality  ;) )

Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 08, 2011, 07:46:42 PM
Which ones from RPGNow? Do the need to be digital or actual physical products?
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: krieghund on October 08, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
Shuffler might be worth a look.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 08, 2011, 08:29:16 PM
Architectural journals are your best bet and also a visit to the RIBA website might be worthwhile.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 08, 2011, 11:40:35 PM
I want to use them for a miniatures game, so boring b&w schematics are not what I'm looking for. I plan to mount them to foamcore tiles and use them side-by-side with my WorldWorksGames terrain. Unfortunately, no one offers good-looking floorplans/buildings that have props in them AND have no or at least an unobstrusive grid  :-I

So if there are some artists out there, this could be a nice business opportunity for you!

I really need a Diner/Road Stop restaurant type for an outdoor encounter  ::)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: chromedog on October 09, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
Try and find some of the old Shadowrun DMZ plans.
They don't have a grid, but do have asterisks which mark out the movement point grid it used.

Nightclubs, diners, shopping malls, etc.

I have a pdf of some of them.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 09, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
Good call. There was also a bunch of similar floorplans included in a seperate supplement that had apartments, a warehouse, monorail station plus cars etc.

Unfortunately, they are very hard to find :( Complete sets go for a ridiculous amount of money.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: markiemark on October 09, 2011, 03:09:01 PM
hi

I work as a draftsman with Autocad and Revit MEP... so i can get my hands on alot of different buildings like offices....

did draw last month a complete map of 2floor building in 1/50 scale with surroundings.... i did print them on a A0-format paper (1200x841mm)

just send me a pm...

regards,
mark
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Crudeboy on October 10, 2011, 03:01:13 AM
Good call. There was also a bunch of similar floorplans included in a seperate supplement that had apartments, a warehouse, monorail station plus cars etc.

Unfortunately, they are very hard to find :( Complete sets go for a ridiculous amount of money.

That one was Sprawl Sites, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: bandit86 on October 10, 2011, 06:35:46 AM
Go to Google image type in floor plans(dinner or whatever) and tons of stuff pop up
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: ryoden on October 10, 2011, 06:43:11 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/ryoden/sr2.jpg)

Here is a screenie of one of the pdfs for the sr sprawl.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: chromedog on October 10, 2011, 06:49:33 AM
That one was Sprawl Sites, if I recall correctly.

You recall correctly.
DMZ had an expansion map set called "Sprawl sites" (not to be confused with either of the two "location archetype" supplements for SR1/3 (I have the SR1 book as well as the DMZ/SS sets - I think there was a SR3 or SR4 book using the same title also).

Seeker Gaming Systems also did a 25mm grid "Corporate building" set of floor plans (which had furniture, guard stations, elevators and such shown).
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 10, 2011, 06:20:05 PM
I actually had this supplement for DMZ, but I sold it years ago :(

To clear things up further, I am looking for something like this:

http://rpgmapshare.com/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=41867

only with a better resolution and possibly the option to turn off certain props and the grid... Yes, high expectations, but I want my building tiles to look as good as the WWG stuff next to it :)

Oh well, I guess I'll just use the Left 4 Dead authoring tools to create some scenery ripped from the game itself.

I wish the artists that did the art for Fantasy Flight Games' Mansions Of Madness boardgame would release some modern maps  :P

Just beautiful...

(http://www.henningludvigsen.com/images/uploads/artwork/mansions_of_madness_all.jpg)

(http://www.henningludvigsen.com/images/uploads/artwork/mansion_of_madness_detail_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 26, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
I spent the last week just doing it myself. I used mostly textures and models from Left 4 Dead. Every floorplans is build like a real building in a 3D program, then lighted and rendered for a realistic look.

Some impressions:

(http://www.abload.de/img/all_14jrx.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/all_2rjo4.jpg)

Please don't ask me if I can make the floorplans available; I am pretty sure that I could get in serious trouble for redistributing intellectual property of Valve ;)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Bloodsbane on October 27, 2011, 01:12:26 AM
That's awesome work, man! The cast shadows add a lot of depth and atmosphere.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on February 22, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
Just thought I'd give this a little bump. I completed this project a couple of months ago and made about a hundred tiles of different sizes, recreating almost every room from Left 4 Dead 1 and 2. The tiles are meant to be mounted on foamcore and are all in multiples of 3x3 inches but without a grid, although one could be added because most walls go along 1-inch-increments. The 3x3 inches footprint ensures compatibility with World Works Games stuff.

All tiles can of course also be used for any modern or near future game.

If anyone is interested, I will send you the package, but there's one catch: You have to add me on steam so I can verify you own a copy of Left 4 Dead 1 or 2, otherwise I'd be illegally distributing intellectual property (yee above).

So if you are interested, my steam account is "chernoskill"  :)

Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: dijit on February 23, 2012, 08:10:53 AM
They look very nicely done, well done on the project.
Duncan
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: joroas on February 23, 2012, 08:18:06 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on June 23, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
In case anyone is interested, this offer is still up :)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Sheerluck Holmes on June 23, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
I have steam, but not left 4 dead, which is a pity, as these would be great for my zombie Play by Blog games.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on June 23, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
Then get Left 4 Dead 1 or 2 (or both!) when valve has it's next steam sale :) I got both before christmas for 10 EUR or something about that :)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: chromedog on June 25, 2012, 02:39:18 AM
I have L4D but do not have a steam account.  I don't play multiplayer at all and don't need the account.

I don't download games - I got my copy on disc, as the pixel-gods intended.

If this means I miss out on stuff, then so be it.  Steam blows down under, anyway.  Service is crap and slow as all-get out (even on my "high speed" (ADSL2+) broadband (outside of capital cities, it's as good as it gets).
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on June 25, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
I'd love to send you the package but please understand that I'm weary of copyright infringement so I just have to be sure  :-I

Maybe you can activate your boxed copy of L4D on steam, I know this is possible somehow.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: chromedog on June 25, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
It is possible, but thereupon lies the issue.

The aether separates my network connection from the box (L4D console version) - my console and my network connection are in different cities.  :D  I've not played it in a few years as a result.  Probably because I found it rather tedious (survival horror is like that for me).

I know you're just C-Y-A and that's fine as I have all of those shadowrun, Traveller (all of the Seeker gaming systems sets) and other floorplans anyway. 
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 02, 2012, 11:12:03 AM
Would love to have these as they'd be useful for my early cyberpunk RPG I'm about to run. Unfortunately I don't have Steam and never will as I don't game on my PC anymore :(

Ah well, I totally understand.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on July 02, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
Please understand that I can't just redistribute those files, I might get in trouble, after all the textures and models are not my property  :-I
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 02, 2012, 01:24:15 PM
Ah well, I totally understand.

:)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on July 02, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
Yes I noticed that ;)

Let's just say I adressed all other interested readers who don't have Steam and/or L4d ;)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 02, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Oh I've got it and so do two of my players but we all have it on the xbox.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on July 02, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
So what do we learn from that... Consoles suck!  :D  ;)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Dewbakuk on July 02, 2012, 03:36:46 PM
I used to be of that opinion particularly with FPS games but I've been much happier with my console after I gave it a proper chance. My xbox has done me well for several years now and will see me for another couple of years at least, and cost under £200 with superb graphics and processing. I refuse to calculate how much a PC used to cost me to keep up at a relevant gaming spec but a friend of mine recently bought a new graphics card for over £150 to replace the one he bought just over 2 years ago at £120, not including memory upgrades etc in the interim or future... You know what, the appearance of his games on his screen isn't particularly superior to his xbox connected to the TV through an HDMI cable and costs vastly more.

That said, comand and resource management style games can only be played on the PC. They truly suck on consoles.
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: richarDISNEY on July 06, 2012, 07:03:19 PM
e-mail sent!
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on August 08, 2012, 07:59:11 PM
I'd like to give this one last push, the file is still up and if anyone wants to grab it, add me on Steam and send me a PM here and I'll send you the link :)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: lord_morrolan on October 10, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
Cherno. Are you still offering those maps? They look fantastic.
I do have both L4D and L4D 2 on Steam too. :-)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: aliensurfer on October 10, 2012, 01:34:21 PM
seconded - only just seen this but have the games - and always looking for new victims - errm, opponents  ;)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 10, 2012, 01:45:36 PM
Yes, they are still available for all who own one of the L4D games.

Just add me on steam and I'll upload em and send you the link. Please also send me a PM cuz I rarely run steam these days ;)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 10, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
Yes, they are still available for all who own one of the L4D games.

Just add me on steam and I'll upload em and send you the link. Please also send me a PM cuz I rarely run steam these days ;)

So if I take a picture of my gamertag on my Xbox with my l4d and L42 achievements and email you are you going to be able to share these?

Thanks.

The Commander
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 10, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
No, it has to be a photo that depicts the following:

- You
- A loaf of bread on your head
- You do the Karate Kid stance
- You wear blackface
- the L4D DVD is balanced on the tip of your nose
- You hold a copy of the Pitcairn Islands Times in your hand, with the date clearly visible

(Pic clickable)
(http://acslater.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/scammingscammers.jpg) (http://www.acslater.com/2008/10/26/nigerian-scammers-getting-scammed/)

Alternatively, you could just keep asking and sooner or later I will relent :P
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Commander Vyper on October 10, 2012, 10:10:16 PM
Funny guy Robert ;).

Cheers for the link, appreciated.

The Commander
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on October 28, 2012, 09:03:11 PM
For the person who asked for Deus Ex: Human Revolution floorplans, I looked into it today but sadly there is no Software Development Kit or any mod tools available, so this is not possible. Which is really a shame, because it is pretty much the only cyberpunk-style FPS of the last several years (the Syndicate remake notwithstanding).

Anyway, the other stuff featured in this thread is still up for grabs, I made a composite image with a few of the floorplans I made, note that this image is at about 5% of it's original size at 300 DPI, the actual pdf files are high quality with great detail.

(http://www.abload.de/img/atzrycsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on March 16, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Derp

Here's the download link for the floorplans, enjoy!

http://en.swoopshare.com/file/82c39b859ad0799cc17c5b6a02eae819/atz_2?tags=atz_2&lang=en
Title: Re: Modern floorplans - Where from?
Post by: Cherno on November 22, 2015, 02:24:20 PM
The files have been re-uploaded to my own webspace, the links are in this dedicated thread:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=84702.0