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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Andym on November 07, 2011, 01:08:56 PM
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On November 5th 1605 Guys Fawkes was captured guarding the gun powder that was supposed to blow up the Houses of Parliment in London. Apparently there was a letter to the authorities detailing the plot that lead to his arrest and eventual execution, but what would have happened if they hadn't?
The 5th of November is celebrated every year in this country as 'Guy Fawkes Night' where we make up effigies of the man and burn it on a bonfire, also letting off a bundle of fireworks.
But this thread is more about building models representing the afterath of the plot rather than an alternative history....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1e421432.jpg~original)
....It's suppose to be Big Ben. Destroyed of course! I always had the notion to build it. It may be useful for future wars games or even War of the World games. This is only the basic
shape without the top most part of the tower. My biggest problem I'm going to have is how to do the actual clock.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/cc572785.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/47564184.jpg~original)
The way I see it, I have two options. Number one is to build all the really fiddly bits four times(one for each face) or number two use a photograph for the face. Anybody got Amy other ideas?
Cheers!
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Can't see it being much of a challenge for a man of your considerable talents :D
Great idea as well, I guess thats next years game sorted out lol
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Build the face once and mold/cast it three more times?
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The current Houses of Parliament were built by the Victorians, so your scenery is 250 years too early.
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The current Houses of Parliament were built by the Victorians, so your scenery is 250 years too early.
I really didn't know that. How did they look back then?
Duncan
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Whether you build one or four faces, this might help as a start, depending how accurate you need it to be:
(http://www.bjcraftsupplies.com/plasticCanvas/images/circle33005.jpg)
http://www.bjcraftsupplies.com/plasticCanvas/plastic-canvas-shapes01.asp
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The current Houses of Parliament were built by the Victorians, so your scenery is 250 years too early.
Who cares its a great idea lol
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I really didn't know that. How did they look back then?
Duncan
Charles II - a little late, but close enough for government work ;)
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Knight-LondonVolII/pages/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II-q93-1600x1200.jpg (http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Knight-LondonVolII/pages/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II-q93-1600x1200.jpg)
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The original Houses of Parliament did burn down (by accident, rather than design) in 1834. JMW Turner made a series of paintings about it.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/RwFT-UnMH-I/AAAAAAAABgY/z21Y13lTZkE/s1600/burning2.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/RwFUDUnMH_I/AAAAAAAABgg/rM5gfgGAa2M/s1600/burning1.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/RwFT4knMH9I/AAAAAAAABgQ/hM3b8Dh5sS0/s1600/burning3.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/RwFTzUnMH8I/AAAAAAAABgI/AU-FtS5EemQ/s1600/burning4.jpg)
The only bit that survived was what is now called Westminster Hall.
But do not despair! Your ruined clock tower is ideal for V for Vendetta and any number of British post-apocalyptic settings.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/Ry-MzyTgRYI/AAAAAAAABow/ZXFsyaQb1rk/s1600/V3.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/Ry-MuiTgRXI/AAAAAAAABoo/wVJgbqm7EVs/s1600/V4.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7S6koRX0l1w/Ry-MoSTgRWI/AAAAAAAABog/_6xzheYUyBU/s1600/V5.jpg)
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Charles II - a little late, but close enough for government work ;)
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Knight-LondonVolII/pages/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II-q93-1600x1200.jpg (http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Knight-LondonVolII/pages/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II/081-Houses-of-Parliament-from-the-River-temp-Charles-II-q93-1600x1200.jpg)
there was a Channel 4 documentary that had some maps and plans of the parliament as well... also try and find the one the BBC did about the bomb blast with the Hamster... was shown on one of the Discovery's recently.... that had a lot of rough images of what the main building would have looked like...
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here is the Hamster... in 8 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oDBXLjQcE
very useful 3d sweep around of the original house of lords... which is now a carpark in the new building...
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here is the Hamster... in 8 parts
That car crash must have been worse than I thought ... ::)
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lol
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Since this was the state opening of Parliament, it would have been in the House of Lords. present would have been the royal family, all the MPs, Lords and Bishops. So the entire ruling elite of the country would have been killed in one fell swoop...............
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He's at it again and he's only just got back from this years :o lol 8)
The way I see it, I have two options. Number one is to build all the really fiddly bits four times(one for each face) or number two use a photograph for the face. Anybody got Amy other ideas?
I could help you out with that one ;) ;)
Really looking forward to the game format :)
cheers
James
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My biggest problem I'm going to have is how to do the actual clock.
Anybody got Amy other ideas?
Cheers!
Solve your biggest problem by losing the clock altogether. The present clock tower is dated 1859, so is about 250 years too late. The parliament website notes that the medieval clock tower from 1367 was derelict by 1699, so was probably getting tatty in 1605 anyway. There's an engraving at http://www.cosmicelk.net/bigben.htm (http://www.cosmicelk.net/bigben.htm) showing a relatively simple tower.
Alternatively, if it's after Fawkes' powder went off, a suitably large rubble heap should suffice!
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My biggest problem I'm going to have is how to do the actual clock.
Take apart an old watch or find a supplier of watch faces and hands?
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Your Mad :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Nice! I like! I really like!
Hmmm those pike and shott miniatures... Will you be coming up with the guy fawkes game?
Cheers
Andy
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Build one clock face, and cast 3 sections of it to put on the other sides. (damaged faces) that way you'll have one face intact to show its the iconic Big Ben, and three ruined faces showing Bens been brought low.
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Relieved to see a few pointers about the difference in the HoP then and more recently.
Laser etching for the clock face would probably be the quickest way. Aside from originating the artwork file there'd be little else to do.
Had Fawkes celebrated we'd likely still celebrate - just it'd be the destruction as the focus.
Victoria Tower is my fave bit of the Palace of Westminster, originally it was going to hold every piece of legislation created by parliament. A safe archive long over filled... it's a shame we can't limit Parliament's laws to whatever they can store on paper in that tower, and give us all a break from nanny state rules.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Victoria_Tower_from_Old_Palace_Yard.jpg/400px-Victoria_Tower_from_Old_Palace_Yard.jpg)
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I suppose in the long term it would have been a different comonwealth, if I remember werent the plotters Catholic? so they would not be popular for the masses who were fervently protestant.
However with the restoration after Cromwells death I think something much like this would have happened but perhpas there could be more intervention form foreign parts :)
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WOW!! :o :o Thanks very much guys for all the feedback and information!
Can't see it being much of a challenge for a man of your considerable talents :D
Great idea as well, I guess thats next years game sorted out lol
He's at it again and he's only just got back from this years :o lol 8)
I could help you out with that one ;) ;)
Really looking forward to the game format :)
cheers
James
I'm afraid I hadn't thought of a game from this. Myself, Gamer Mac and Oldskoolrebel have some completely different ideas for games next year! ;)
Cheers Jim, I'll send a PM your way soon.
The current Houses of Parliament were built by the Victorians, so your scenery is 250 years too early.
In all honesty Joroas, I just fancied destroying Big Ben( in model form of course) and I thought it might be appropriate for this time year. I could always use it for a War of the Worlds game. Maybe the tripods have zapped it!
Solve your biggest problem by losing the clock altogether. The present clock tower is dated 1859, so is about 250 years too late. The parliament website notes that the medieval clock tower from 1367 was derelict by 1699, so was probably getting tatty in 1605 anyway. There's an engraving at http://www.cosmicelk.net/bigben.htm (http://www.cosmicelk.net/bigben.htm) showing a relatively simple tower.
Alternatively, if it's after Fawkes' powder went off, a suitably large rubble heap should suffice!
The only problem is, in my opinion, I think the clocks the most iconic part. The rest of the model I think I can get away with roughly being Big Ben shaped tower and it'll be enough to fool most people's eyes, but the clock everybody recognises! It's not a scale model by any standards. I dare say if you counted the cornices and alcoves and stuff it won't match!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e83ee4ad.jpg~original)
Take apart an old watch or find a supplier of watch faces and hands?
The problem would be to get one in scale bud. I think I'll try building it or speaking to the talented Mr Jimbibbly.
Thanks guys for all the history, drawings and videos, I've learned a lot and it's very useful for what I'm trying to do!
Cheers!
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Just a small update. I think that I've finished building up until the clock section....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e2fc1027.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d97c9701.jpg~original)
I've just got to add some sand and gravel to make the rubble look a bit better. The printed clock faces are just there so I can see where I'm going with this. Hopefully I'll get some bits and pieces to save me try to build something so intricate!
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I applaud the detail so far.
You might want to get the clock hands telling the same time when you finally secure them. ;)
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the detail in that.... I'd look at getting it produced, I'd go for one...
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Oh wow. :o Thats looking fantastic already.
Be great in the final scene in the British 'Planet of the apes'.
Cast Gerard Butler in Chucky Heston role and change the dialogue.
Instead of the "you fools" bit he surely has to say "you f***ing numpties"
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Love it Andy :-* :-* A cracking idea!
Cheers
Guy ( lol)
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Thanks very much guys!
the detail in that.... I'd look at getting it produced, I'd go for one...
Sorry EG, but I wouldn't even know how to start something like that! Also it's a big model, it'd cost a lot.
My good lady has started redecorating again and one of the things I've grabbed is the wall clock before it gets in the bin. In the clock theres a square clock mechanism about 55mm x 55mm. I reckon I could get this big Ben to work and actually tell time if I got another three of these things!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/4248525a.jpg~original)
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The somewhat less than 39 steps ;)
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That's incredible! =) keep going, please =)
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Looking as good as always Andy 8)
cheers
James
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Fantastic! :-* :-*
All I can say is when you're finished with it I'll have it for my War of the Worlds games.
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Fantastic! :-* :-*
All I can say is when you're finished with it I'll have it for my War of the Worlds games.
Would you like me to add some deathray blasts up the side of it? ;)
I manage to find some cheap clocks at Ikea. 99pence each! It only takes four screws to get rid of the cover and your left with this.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/242feed2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/84cd4261.jpg~original)
I'm not sure about the next bit! I was thinking about the top part of the tower. There's not much damage so far on the model, so what if it's ruined/ blown up? My only problem is I don't think this worked....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9e2742b9.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b49be993.jpg~original)
I've still got some detailing to do on the bottom part of the tower, but should I scrap the idea of ruining the roof and build the rest of it?
Cheers Andy.
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Build the rest, build the rest, build the rest :D
cheers
James
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Yes, build the rest. This is stunning, and there should be as much of it as possible! :-*
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Your such a bad influence Jim!! :)
Sorry, I should maybe explain to everybody else, those clock mechanisms will be covered up with a more decorative faceplate and better looking clock hands as well.
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Your such a bad influence Jim!! :)
Sorry, I should maybe explain to everybody else, those clock mechanisms will be covered up with a more decorative faceplate and better looking clock hands as well.
Well, after seeing your other work I don't think we were expecting a half-assed job from you! ;)
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That's interesting! go on, as fast as you are going! ;)
By the way, are you shure that a thin piece of styrofoam is the best top for such a big building? I dunno what are you planning to do whith that exactely, but such a thin strip in such an exposed place... it's gonna break soon! Isn't it? =)
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Your such a bad influence Jim!! :)
I try :D
cheers
James
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Droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!! :-* :-* :-*
Brillinat stuff Andy!
Dont forget the heat ray blasts ;)
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That is bloody brilliant :o :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Sorry EG, but I wouldn't even know how to start something like that! Also it's a big model, it'd cost a lot.
well, the detail you have there is too good to miss... if you've the time, you could redo 1 side only, the detail will be the same on all four faces, so it can be a hollow piece... with a single face, you can get masters for all 4 sides and then introduce the necessary damage to get it on the slant...
try a pitch to one of the resin companies... Ainsty or Fenris... you never know...
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Why not take it just a bit further and surround it with scaffolding and Balfour Beatty security fencing for a massive platform game?
You'd have competing forces of Occupy protesters vs. Police/Site Security (with Sergeant Sam Ford) vs. local chavs who want to put their tag on the clock face (Attack the Block) for 'respect' vs. Anarchists who want to complete the destruction of the tower and bring down the symbol of Imperial Tyranny.
Of course, we all want to see the rest of the palace as well. You can't just go around building part of a famous monument. :D
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Dont forget the heat ray blasts ;)
Ray blasts. Check!
Why not take it just a bit further and surround it with scaffolding and Balfour Beatty security fencing for a massive platform game?
You'd have competing forces of Occupy protesters vs. Police/Site Security (with Sergeant Sam Ford) vs. local chavs who want to put their tag on the clock face (Attack the Block) for 'respect' vs. Anarchists who want to complete the destruction of the tower and bring down the symbol of Imperial Tyranny.
Of course, we all want to see the rest of the palace as well. You can't just go around building part of a famous monument. :D
What about painting up spiderman, batman and superman and we could have a Fathers for Justice game, where the police have get rid of the superheroes protesting on top of the monument? :D
Cheers guys!
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Or a Dr Who game. ;D The next bit of scenery would have to be a crashed spaceship!
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More fantastic work, Andym!
The speed with which you get these projects moving is phenomenal, you must be a man of leisure with a vast fortune stashed away and a whole platoon of builder slaves to complete the tasks that you set them.
Either that, or you are just damn efficient!
Will be watching this avidly, as my next project is a Clocktower.
I will be on the lookout for any ideas to steal copy!
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The speed with which you get these projects moving is phenomenal, you must be a man of leisure with a vast fortune stashed away and a whole platoon of builder slaves to complete the tasks that you set them.
Either that, or you are just damn efficient!
Here's me and the boyz in our annual work photo. That's me with the top hat! ;)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/fdbd708d.jpg~original)
I wish I was a man of leisure. The stuff I could do...... Cost-wise so far, probably about a tenner! It's all scrap bits of mounting card and card from various boxes that would have ended up in the bin. The clock mechanisms have probably brought the cost up. It would have been about a five quid!
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Here's me and the boyz in our annual work photo. That's me with the top hat! ;)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/fdbd708d.jpg)
I wish I was a man of leisure. The stuff I could do...... Cost-wise so far, probably about a tenner! It's all scrap bits of mounting card and card from various boxes that would have ended up in the bin. The clock mechanisms have probably brought the cost up. It would have been about a five quid!
lol lol
It looks like you get your staff from the same agency that they use at my place!
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Or a Dr Who game. ;D The next bit of scenery would have to be a crashed spaceship!
Well, quite.
(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz62/SteveFlanaganUK/2011%20-%2011%20-%20Nov/bigben.jpg)
(Image sequence pinched from Bob Canada's Blogworld.)
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That's me with the top hat!
Had a haircut recently then lol lol
cheers
James
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Well I had a wee hour to play about yesterday. I've went with the general concencus and rebuilt the top. There's still a bit of detail work to do and I'm thinking of adding a weathervane to the top. As it stands, it's currently 48cm tall and 13cm wide. The weather vane should push it over the half meter...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d336b8af.jpg~original)
Cheers guys!
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Looks good, now we just need to see the rest of the Houses of Parliament. :D
Duncan
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"You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
Brilliant!
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Notice that the clock face is a mirror image on the Dr Who sequence!
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Ah! Another impractical mastodon pieces of scenery. Lovely! I am all for it. :)
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Wow, it's getting better and better!
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Can't wait to see this painted up.
BTW : I've got a wallpaper on my desktop for a while now that goes along fine with this build :
http://junoon1.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/london-hq-sunny.jpg (http://junoon1.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/london-hq-sunny.jpg)
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Can't wait to see this painted up.
BTW : I've got a wallpaper on my desktop for a while now that goes along fine with this build :
http://junoon1.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/london-hq-sunny.jpg (http://junoon1.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/london-hq-sunny.jpg)
That's a great picture!!! :o
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bf2dd233.jpg~original)
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Just think of the possibilites of other national landmarks post-apoc style! :) Half a Tower Bridge over a dry riverbed, a crumpled London Eye (just love modelling that!) St. Pauls dome collapsed, Nelson's truncated column.
Ooooh, the possibilites abound. o_o :D
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knock yourself out. :D
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Ah well, it seems my secrets out....
http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1321554441/s-15/ (http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1321554441/s-15/)
There's now a deal in place for Ainisty Castings to produce Jimbibby and myselfs design when it's finished!! :o I'm really excited about this! This is the first time I've been involved in anything like this! No pressure then, eh?
Jims making the design for the original clock faces and I'll get the tower part finished. So thanks to everyone involved, including the people on this forum for your constant suggestions! I'm hoping that will continue because I think I may be getting caught up in the detail and I need to know when to stop!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/0eaa153f.jpg~original)
I'm kind of worried, now that I know this is going to be produced, that theres not going to be enough detail........or I'm I taking things too far? Here's my reference photos...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ec44a10b.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/a72a4ca6.jpg~original)
As you can see, you could probably spend the rest of your life going into detail on this, so how far would you take it? For example, there's roses and leaves on the weathervane. Do I try to sculpt that too?
Thanks again everybody!!!
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Looking fantastic Andy! Really, really nice.
Oh and major congratulations on the ainsty deal!
Cheers
Andy
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A model of this quality just has to be put into production!
Truly excellent and looking better every day
Sorry for the eerrr leak :-X just too excited
Andy
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Are you going to be able to cast the weather came. Is it worth doing?
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The weather vane would be better as a separate brass etch :)
Looking great so far Andy :-*
cheers
James
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yep... brass etch should be involved there...
Andy should do it proud, really happy with my Mechanoids he took on... even almost finished painting them...
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Will need to have some Brass parts and some white metal I think to do it properly
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yep... brass etch should be involved there...
Andy should do it proud, really happy with my Mechanoids he took on... even almost finished painting them...
How did you do the brass etch? I've never done anything with that before. Did you have the brass etch made specifically for the mechanoids or was the brass etch a way to copy some of your finer detail? I'm just thinking if it would better suit some of the parts I'd love to be able to make......
I'm just thinking, Andy, if you'd rather have more detailed roof edging rather than the serrated edging I've glued in place? As well as that the weathervane might Benefit from it?
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yep... brass etch should be involved there...
Andy should do it proud, really happy with my Mechanoids he took on... even almost finished painting them...
Linky? found it :D
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The brass etching was done from a piece of artwork. basically you do a CAD drawingof what you need then the machine etches in brass and cuts out the finished pieces, dead awesome. I have these cemetery gaters done the same way
(http://ainstycastings.co.uk/images/Cemetery%20Gates.jpg)
so if you can draw it we can produce it!
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Congratulations on getting this masterpiece on the market. Well done! It's more than worthy.
In my humble opinion I wouldn't go too nuts with the detailing and the weathervane. As it is at the moment it's still an amazing piece so any additions are a bonus. It is a ruin afterall so perhaps bits would have fallen off or been damaged. Maybe even a simpler weathervane will do, I used to work in offices near Big Ben and until today I hadn't really noticed there was that much detail on it! Looking at artists impressions of a post apocalyptic London there's a fair bit of detail missing from the tower but it still looks good.
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I'm REALLY curious to see the piece casted!!! Its' worthy for shure, of course! =)
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The brass etching was done from a piece of artwork. basically you do a CAD drawingof what you need then the machine etches in brass and cuts out the finished pieces, dead awesome. I have these cemetery gaters done the same way
(http://ainstycastings.co.uk/images/Cemetery%20Gates.jpg)
so if you can draw it we can produce it!
I just ordered those gates.
Andy I will let you know how good they are when I get them :D
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Wait, do you have the machine for making etched brass stuff? that's great!
Is it possible to make custom pieces?
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Congratulations on the Ainsty commision, Andym! (James, too) :D
A truly impressive build, and now it seems we can all have one too!
I will be building a ruined clocktower very soon for my Mordheim project using Pegasus parts for the tower itself, and was wondering if it would be worth making the ruined top section removable, so that I could plug a 'Big-Ben' into it when it is available
What size are the squares that the clock faces will be fixed to?
Trying to figure out if this would be viable.
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Can't wait for this!
I'd vote for a series of ruined London landmarks BTW ;)
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I just ordered those gates.
Andy I will let you know how good they are when I get them :D
Posted out yesterday so that could be today :D
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Wait, do you have the machine for making etched brass stuff? that's great!
Is it possible to make custom pieces?
The etching is done by a company in Scotland, wish I did have the machine and yes one off pieces are possible
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Wait, do you have the machine for making etched brass stuff? that's great!
It's less of a machine than a process. If you, like me, have an ink printer and a small laminating machine you can do it at home, just like you can do circuit boards. It is not super easy, and getting the right chemicals requires a little thought and experience. I've been meaning to write a tutorial over at Workbench at some point.
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The etching is done by a company in Scotland, wish I did have the machine and yes one off pieces are possible
Would that be PPD, if so, we use them at work and they're great :)
Congratulations on the Ainsty commision, Andym! (James, too) :D
I'm only doing the clock face, Andy's the star who's making it all :)
cheers
James
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Would that be PPD, if so, we use them at work and they're great :)
You are correct, it is, and they are!
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It's less of a machine than a process. If you, like me, have an ink printer and a small laminating machine you can do it at home, just like you can do circuit boards. It is not super easy, and getting the right chemicals requires a little thought and experience. I've been meaning to write a tutorial over at Workbench at some point.
Please do !
I've been looking in to that some years ago, but back then, consensus was that standard circuitboard etching procedure wasn't good enough for modelling purposes (I still remember the picures of bad etched pieces with rough edges and partialy dissolved small pieces o_o)
Some claimed not enough movement of the fluid was the cause and that one needed a pump to spray the fluid onto the brass...
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Posted out yesterday so that could be today :D
Got them today, great service.
They look great as well.
Thanks
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Can't wait for this!
I'd vote for a series of ruined London landmarks BTW ;)
??? ::)
How would you do a St Paul's model? I think I'll try a section of wall next....
I decided to go against using brass-etching to build this. I've never used CAD before Andy, if you need me to do anything like that it'd have to be done in MS Paint!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/404c1d2b.jpg~original)
I think the rest of it's nearly done as well. I've only got some upright pillars to finish and some filling to do that should hopefully help in casting! Then it's just the talented Mr Bibblys clock faces to go in place and voila!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c5500f1b.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/eae079ec.jpg~original)
...and the work in progress pillars. Just blu-tacked in place....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/20d4586d.jpg~original)
Cheers!
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Fantastic mate :-* 8)
I'll have the face cut out over the next couple of days and I'll post it here if that's alright :)
cheers
James
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You're mad, and you know it :o ;)
Is that a pencil you used for the pillar in the last picture?
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Looking great :-* :-* :-*
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You're mad, and you know it :o ;)
Is that a pencil you used for the pillar in the last picture?
I'm not mad, my mother has had me tested!! ::)
Yeah, that's a pencil. I couldn't think of anything else the right shape!
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/21654a90.jpg~original)
Their actually a pain in the arse to do. I don't know if I can get away doing one and getting copies made of it?
Cheers anyway guys!
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Really got my work cut out not to destroy this beauty in the moulding process! however the model is looking superB, keepit up :-*
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??? ::)
How would you do a St Paul's model? I think I'll try a section of wall next....
I decided to go against using brass-etching to build this. I've never used CAD before Andy, if you need me to do anything like that it'd have to be done in MS Paint!
*cough* I maybe should have mentioned before... CAD was a substantial part of my degree; plus I've taught it to enough kids now...
Cheers
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Is there any update on when this beautiful monstrosity might be casting?
Thanks. :)
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We are just waiting for the clock faces then its going to the mould stage :)
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They are in the post and I'll get some photos up in the next couple of days :)
cheers
James
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We are just waiting for the clock faces then its going to the mould stage :)
They are in the post and I'll get some photos up in the next couple of days :)
Oooh!
No 'rubs hands' icon.
This will have to do; ;D ;D ;D
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We are just waiting for the clock faces then its going to the mould stage :)
They are in the post and I'll get some photos up in the next couple of days :)
Excellent stuff, great to hear. :)
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Fantastic news. I'm in the queue for this :)
Are you seriously considering other landmarks then?
K
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Crooked Towers Loft explosion next! ;) o_o
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An explosion might knock through to next door and give me more space. There's no downside :)
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They are in the post and I'll get some photos up in the next couple of days :)
cheers
James
Cheers Jim!! That's great news! I'm sitting eagerly, waiting behind the front door, ready for the postman to deliver!!! :D
Fantastic news. I'm in the queue for this :)
Are you seriously considering other landmarks then?
K
What would you like? Any requests?
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What would you like? Any requests?
I'm sure someone mentioned St Pauls. Maybe a shattered dome on the ground and the main entrance steps.
Tower Bridge - that would be a monster though. Maybe limited to one tower and a half broken bridge, the other tower sinking in the Thames?
Shattered Nelsons Column?
Or quick little bits like the entrance to an underground station - steps down?
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What would you like? Any requests?
Arc de Triomphe, Palace of Versailles, Brandenburg Gate, Reichstag, Winter Palace, Moscow Kremlin etc, etc...
Why are the British always the victims?
;)
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You'd only have to do one wrecked tower master for Tower bridge, you'd just buy two to complete!
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Hmm,
I wonder if they wrecked the Atomium, would those balls smash or roll away o_o ?
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I'm sure someone mentioned St Pauls. Maybe a shattered dome on the ground and the main entrance steps.
Tower Bridge - that would be a monster though. Maybe limited to one tower and a half broken bridge, the other tower sinking in the Thames?
Shattered Nelsons Column?
Or quick little bits like the entrance to an underground station - steps down?
All of this! ;D
Karl, I wonder if we've both got the same thing in mind. ;)
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I had best stock up on mould rubber!
I would like a ruined Library like the one in Logans Run too
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Tower Bridge - that would be a monster though. Maybe limited to one tower and a half broken bridge, the other tower sinking in the Thames?
We almost made a ruined Tower Bridge at 1/56 for the Frothers salute game a few years back...still have the scale drawings. Off the top of my head it's about 14feet long and the towers about 3 feet high :o
This looks great, though....best of luck to Ainsty with the casting !
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We almost made a ruined Tower Bridge at 1/56 for the Frothers salute game a few years back...still have the scale drawings. Off the top of my head it's about 14feet long and the towers about 3 feet high :o
This looks great, though....best of luck to Ainsty with the casting !
I don't suppose you have the drawings in electronic form?
If I was to do it, I think I'd have to scale it down so it's usable!! There also seems to be four towers that make up the structure.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/8c9ec9d3.jpg~original)
..... I could maybe make up one small tower and one large?
I had best stock up on mould rubber!
I would like a ruined Library like the one in Logans Run too
Is it actually a ruined library? I seem to remember it being the senate building in Washington. The dome for St Paul's and that one are roughly the same. The thing is ,again , the size. Also would you want the full dome or a wrecked section or half of the dome. I've had a wee look a pictures and if I went with a realistic construction it would be a bummer to cast...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/32fee19c.jpg~original)
....there may be too many beams and stuff inside! I reckon I could do this version I've drawn fairly easily and it would certainly be easier to cast....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/07524eb8.jpg~original)
Let me know what you think.
Cheers guys!
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Yep - that drawing is the kind of think I had in mind.
Go for it!
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Has anybody told you recently you are MAD lol lol lol
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You could be right Andy, maybe I need to watch it again
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Piccy as promised :D
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/DSCF9656.jpg)
It's 90mm square and the numbers are 6mm tall :) It's also been given a coat of ink to pick out the detail for the photo but obviously the real one is white and black (with a touch of gold). Certain parts have been simplified but the overall feel is right.
cheers
James
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Superb James! can you send the copper too? :-*
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Superb James! can you send the copper too? :-*
No lol
Glad you like it, Andy is getting four (this is a spare) :)
cheers
James
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Perfect Jim!!!! :o :o
Still sitting, patiently, behind the door like a wee dog, waiting for the postman! :D :D
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Pretty!
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Gosh, it's amazing what one can do with a Spirograph and a craft knife when one puts one's mind to it...
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Gosh, it's amazing what one can do with a Spirograph and a craft knife when one puts one's mind to it...
Damn! You beat me to it! lol
Lovely work, James!
Cant wait for this to become available..... ;D ;D ;D
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(http://forum-of-doom.com/Smileys/default/clap2.gif)
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I've made a start. The hardest part trying to make St. Paul's, I think, is going to be building the dome! I don't think this is right, I think I'll start again.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9ec72140.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/3dd0b40c.jpg~original)
The way I see it, theres two ways of building it. One is to get a plastic bowl and cut it up. The other is to make sections in card and glue it all together. That lets me make it as thick as I want and I can sandwich bits of balsa wood inbetween. It would then be covered in polyfilla and that would hide the straight edges on the broken sections and make them looked more 'cracked'.
I'll start again and I think I'll make the sections thinner and widen out the whole dome. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!!
Cheers. Andy.
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What about a suitably shaped lampshade cover to provide the frame?
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Jimbib, that's a work of art! :-* :-*
Andy, that's not a bad start but as you said there's something not quite right about it (said he who wouldn't know where to start with this project). Maybe widening the dome is what it needs. Card or styrene sheets are definitely going to be the easier material as they are more forgiving and once you've got the shape in place you can add bits from there. Perhaps use something as a template such as a bowl or as Karl said a lamp shade, at least you'll have something to support the card whilst you're putting it together.
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I've seen pictures somewhere of the construction framework of when it was being built so you might want to do something like that.
Plot it out on a bit of paper and spend your time getting the early stages right and it will make the whole job easier later on. Even though you are only making a part of it make the jig as if you were making the whole dome :)
cheers
James
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Agree with the other posters. That first dome looks just a bit too "Cone-y" rather than "Sphere-y".
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oooo lots of interesting development here
any chance the clock faces will be available seperately? could see one of those on the wall of a victorian supervillain's lair
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Not quite a drawing but a simple kit may give you the sizes you need http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/miscellanous/Tower-Bridge.html
(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/miscellanous/Tower-Bridge/IMAGES/tower_img.jpg)
Going up in price gives you the end towers http://www.happypuzzle.co.uk/products/LANDMARK-MODELS-TOWER-BRIDGE.aspx
More expensive but including the end towers is http://www.marcle.co.uk/#anchor383207
(http://www.marcle.co.uk/Tower%20Bridge%20smaller.jpg)
Only none 3d images I can fine are
(http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19699/19699-h/images/bridges_13.png)
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tower_bridge_schm020.png
No top down except for Google http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=blueprint+of+%22tower+bridge%22&hl=en&ll=51.505414,-0.075751&spn=0.002882,0.006968&safe=off&hq=blueprint+of+%22tower+bridge%22&radius=15000&t=h&z=18
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For the dome, perhaps cut the bottom edge of the dome so the whole thing sits skew on the base, slightly toppled over?
Right now it looks great, except too upright for a dome that supposedly come crashing down off a cathedral to street level.
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For the dome, perhaps cut the bottom edge of the dome so the whole thing sits skew on the base, slightly toppled over?
Right now it looks great, except too upright for a dome that supposedly come crashing down off a cathedral to street level.
I think that's the idea, only that comes after initially building the dome? Andy will confirm for sure, I suppose.
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This just gets better and better! You chaps are brilliant!
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For the dome, perhaps cut the bottom edge of the dome so the whole thing sits skew on the base, slightly toppled over?
Right now it looks great, except too upright for a dome that supposedly come crashing down off a cathedral to street level.
Fram is bang on! There's a drawing on page 7 showing what I'm planning. There will be wall sections and rubble under the dome and, eventually, it will sit askew.
Right, so I've tried again. I don't know if this is how they built domes Jim, but I tried to think how it MIGHT be built.
First I made a frame out of 5mm thick foamboard....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/095a1250.jpg~original)
....next I covered it in thin cornflake packet card(I will put more detail on the outside of this later), then I cut out a bundle of small bricks from blue foam and put them around any damaged sections I'm going to have. Last, but by no means least, I put some more cornflake packet card on the inside, leaving the brickwork exposed at places.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/4656c8a5.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d5842e78.jpg~original)
Still very much WIP but I think this is better.
Again thanks for your help guys!! Those models/drawing Andrew are going to be a great help!!!
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Damn! :o
Love watching your builds...what sofas were invented for! :D
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Oh wow, this version looks great now. :-*
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superb! You shure have a lot of time! ;)
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Nicely done.
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Love watching your builds...what sofas were invented for! :D
I'll get the popcorn, this is going to be good.
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I'll get the popcorn, this is going to be good.
Shift over, there's room for one more.
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Thanks for the comments guys! You've really given me my mojo back!!
Arc de Triomphe, Palace of Versailles, Brandenburg Gate, Reichstag, Winter Palace, Moscow Kremlin etc, etc...
Why are the British always the victims?
;)
I just remembered, I based one of my old 40k terrain bits on the Arc de Triumph. This bit must be about six years old......
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/S7301538.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/S7301540.jpg~original)
I also started another piece very roughly based on the Brooklyn bridge, but I never got it finished. It's still sitting in a cupboard somewhere.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/S7301536.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/S7301537.jpg~original)
They were both supposed to be part of a city board my brother and myself were making for a 40k Apocalypse game we never played!
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Oh Dear, not again...
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That bridge is very nice!
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That was you :o ???
I remember seeing those on WIP years ago :) I've got the images stored on my 'putter somewhere lol
cheers
James
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Your discarded projects are bigger and better than my finished ones! :o :o
Do you sleep?? o_o
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Your discarded projects are bigger and better than my finished ones! :o :o
Do you sleep?? o_o
I don't get much time to do my models, but my 'real' job can be boring at times and that lets me plan out and think about what I'm doing next with a project. Work out in my head how I'm going to do something. It means the time I've got, I just batter into it with no messing around!!
How's the steamer coming along? Any progress? I've not seen any posts up. :(
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Ah, the steamer is in drydock awaiting a delivery of mojo. :( I do want it finished though as I have an idea for a BLAM 12 game that would need it.
I have, however, been working on some crew and tid-bits as well as another ship!
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Just discovered this "another of those Andym's brilliant threads". Fantastic.
:-*
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Just discovered this "another of those Andym's brilliant threads". Fantastic.
:-*
Welcome to the club with this one.
Thunderchicken has brought a sofa, but that is now full.
Park yourself on the floor with the rest of us.
This is becoming a great!
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Welcome to the club with this one.
Thunderchicken has brought a sofa, but that is now full.
Park yourself on the floor with the rest of us.
This is becoming a great!
Move over, I am old, big and have a broken back. I need to sit, you youngsters can sit on the floor, heres a pillow mason.
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This is getting good .....but I'll just stand next to the door if thats ok, just In case I need the loo :D
We need more landmarks to lay waste to ......
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Thanks for the incredibly incouraging comments guys!!! :o
So I've taken a wee break recently to take part in Roebeasts 'Trashbash' competition. Now that's over I'm going to get back into this. The very talented Jimbibbly has sent me through the clockfaces for Big Ben......
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/3ed1f3c7.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/448b8c44.jpg~original)
.....brilliant work Jim!!! :o :-* :-* now I've just got make up the clock hands and tidy up the area surrounding the faces and I'll be done!!
Hope you like......
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i do. lol
That's simply brilliant, and the bridge is stunning.
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what he said.
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Looks good Andy 8)
Give it a coat of primer and take another shot :)
cheers
James
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:o :o :o
:-* :-* :-*
;D ;D ;D
etc, etc, etc.....
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Lovely stuff :)
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Ooh.... :-*
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Fram is bang on! There's a drawing on page 7 showing what I'm planning. There will be wall sections and rubble under the dome and, eventually, it will sit askew.
Right, so I've tried again. I don't know if this is how they built domes Jim, but I tried to think how it MIGHT be built.
First I made a frame out of 5mm thick foamboard....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/095a1250.jpg)
....next I covered it in thin cornflake packet card(I will put more detail on the outside of this later), then I cut out a bundle of small bricks from blue foam and put them around any damaged sections I'm going to have. Last, but by no means least, I put some more cornflake packet card on the inside, leaving the brickwork exposed at places.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/4656c8a5.jpg)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d5842e78.jpg)
Still very much WIP but I think this is better.
Again thanks for your help guys!! Those models/drawing Andrew are going to be a great help!!!
Jesus Andy... If you don't get punished for your Wargames scenery hybris it will be the final proof that there are no gods.
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Fantastic work Andy. How do you work out the size and shape of the cornflakes box bits? Trial and error or do you have some superpower that makes it easy for you?
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The God of cornflake box card and blue foam is easily pleased!! You don't have to sell your soul, just eat cornflakes every morning and he's happy! ;)
The cornflake bits are cut to a rough size then trimmed down to a better fit. Once one is made its just a case of copying that one several more times. The foam core beams aren't perfectly spaced so some more trimming on certain parts was needed or, in this case, any boo-boos are going to be covered with styrene tubing cut in half gently curved and superglued over the joins in the card and that'll hide any differences in size.
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Andy, you have to finish that bridge. It's just gob-smackingly good. I want to play a game on it!
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The God of cornflake box card and blue foam is easily pleased!! You don't have to sell your soul, just eat cornflakes every morning and he's happy! ;)
The cornflake bits are cut to a rough size then trimmed down to a better fit. Once one is made its just a case of copying that one several more times. The foam core beams aren't perfectly spaced so some more trimming on certain parts was needed or, in this case, any boo-boos are going to be covered with styrene tubing cut in half gently curved and superglued over the joins in the card and that'll hide any differences in size.
Thanks! It's good to know I didn't miss much in my CDT classes :)
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Thanks! It's good to know I didn't miss much in my CDT classes :)
Whoa, CDT. Haven't heard that in a long time lol
cheers
James
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Andy, you have to finish that bridge. It's just gob-smackingly good. I want to play a game on it!
Do it Andy! Bring it to BLAM12 as a zombie survival game! >:D :D
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Do it Andy! Bring it to BLAM12 as a zombie survival game! >:D :D
Yes, yes, Captain Blood loves Zombie games, he has already said he wants to play a game on it. lol lol
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How did I miss this!
You are insane in the best possible way. :-*
What a wonderful project you have taken on.
Really outstanding work.
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Yes, yes, Captain Blood loves Zombie games, he has already said he wants to play a game on it. lol lol
It might even be worth it to see that scenery completed... ::)
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The only problem with finishing the bridge is we don't play 40k anymore. If anybody wants to finish it they can have it, I just don't think theres a box big enough!!
Only a small update on Big Ben....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/8af0945f.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c26c6285.jpg~original)
....I changed the parapet above Jims clockfaces, I felt it didn't look quite right! That only leaves two other parapets to finish on the back end of it and do the clock hands. Unless anybody can suggest anything to make it better???
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I just re-evalutated my modeling skills. There is no other way to decribe my feelings when I saw this fantastic building.
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Are you going to have a section or two of smashed wall to go with it?
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I'll get this finished first and make sure Ainisty like it first then I'll try a wall section.
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:o :o :o :o that is stunning, it just gets better & better.
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Bloody hell, Andy!
:o
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This is so fecking ridiculously good! :o
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I think I'm finished....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/d20f642a.jpg~original)
...I've drilled out the faces and hands so that they can be attached to a standard 55x55mm clock mechanism.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/5023dfbd.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/510d480f.jpg~original)
...viola, just add one AA battery and you have a ruined Big Ben alarm clock!!
Thank you all for all your encouraging comments guys!!
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Great stuff 8)
I bet it doesn't go 'Bing bong, bing bong, bong bing, bong bing' though lol
cheers
James
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Most excellent, youa re a creative genius, you bastard! lol
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Great stuff 8)
I bet it doesn't go 'Bing bong, bing bong, bong bing, bong bing' though lol
cheers
James
All it makes is a really annoying 'beep-bababa-beep!' sound! :)
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The kind of shit you pull out of your hat, Andy... I am flabbergasted
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Truely magnifique. A stunning build. So many scenarios already coming to mind.
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Fan-tastic!
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Fan-tastic!
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Fan-bloody-tastic!
(Now to convince the Missus that she really wants a Big Ben alarm clock!)
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A masterpeice. It's not often I show the missus threads from this forum but this is one of them. She's impressed and that's saying something!!
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Lets see if we can have it ready for Salute then!
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Andy. That really is a modelling triumph. You are a talented so-and-so. You should do this professionally, really. You'd make a killing... ;)
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:o :-* :o :-* :o :-* :o :-*
Brilliant
Andy. That really is a modelling triumph. You are a talented so-and-so. You should do this professionally, really. You'd make a killing... ;)
I fully agree with Richard
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Andy. That really is a modelling triumph. You are a talented so-and-so. You should do this professionally, really. You'd make a killing... ;)
Thanks! You guys are really kind! I think we would all love to do our hobbies for a living! If you know anybody looking for anything or anybody, I'd really appreciate it!
I've not got much of an update, but I did have some wee bits of foam left over from stuff. These are just wee bits ruined Parliment to add to my project......
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/f1b35995.jpg~original)
I'm also currently trying to make up some bigger sections as well.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/2dfa5095.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/4e543a72.jpg~original)
This is just a start. I plan to try something a bit better.
Again, thanks for all the encouraging comments guys!
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Looks like a great 'start' to me.
Looking forward to what you come up with.
Andy. That really is a modelling triumph. You are a talented so-and-so. You should do this professionally, really. You'd make a killing... ;)
The man's right, ya know!
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Stonking!
Will they be cast up too?
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I don't know if Ainisty want these. I can always offer and see what they say...
I've been thinking it might be cool to do a board with all these wee bits and pieces. I loved the picture Zizi666 posted earlier in this thread and it would make a really cool board...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/af02c0ae.jpg~original)
.....obviously it would have more stuff over the top of it. It supposed to be a dried out version of the Thames. It wouldn't be a geographically accurate representation of london. Big Ben and St Paul's would end up being side by side, but it might look the part?
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I missed that board drawing earlier - but that would be spectacular.
Sign me up :)
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I don't know if Ainisty want these. I can always offer and see what they say...
it would make sense to have them as well... will help tie in the clock tower with the rest of the table...
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I missed that board drawing earlier - but that would be spectacular.
Sign me up :)
Sorry, my apologies. This is the painting I meant. That we sketch is just what I think I could build.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bf2dd233.jpg~original)
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If you built it, that board will be a sigh tbe behold. Truly spectacular. ;D
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Sorry, my apologies. This is the painting I meant. That we sketch is just what I think I could build.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bf2dd233.jpg)
That's lovely isn't it.
Have you ever seen the online game City of The Daleks (on the BBC website). Exactly the same premise. I was going to do it at Salute 2011, but ended up doing the airfield.
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/9d299690.jpg)
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/70e5e233.jpg)
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/c6ea1c08.jpg)
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/a8b1add8.jpg)
My initial map
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/94164c58.jpg)
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Cool! Will follow (as i always did) you very closely! =)
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The ruined bits might sell on their own without the tower - they're great ruin bits in an architectural style that isn't as commonly available. Without the tower to really point out the source, they're usable for VSF, 19th century wars, WWI, WWII, modern/future/40k, etc.
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Have you ever seen the online game City of The Daleks (on the BBC website). Exactly the same premise. I was going to do it at Salute 2011, but ended up doing the airfield.
My initial map
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj278/pez47/Doctor%20Who%20Miniatures/Salute%202011/City%20of%20the%20Daleks/94164c58.jpg)
Karl, I hear the sound of rods being made for backs here! lol
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I'll happily(or stupidly depending on your point of view!) take up the challenge. It might interest you Karl, I've been trying to learn to sculpt in my lunch breaks. I was trying this a couple of days before you posted those Dr Who pics. Ill only do this if I can pull off doing the face....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/db363cf4.jpg~original)
...it's HOPEFULLY going to look like this when I'm finished...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/16779c66.jpg~original)
...wish me luck!! This is my first sculpt, I've only ever used green stuff for gap filling and I made a cloak once for my Space Wolf commander! o_o
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:o :o :o
Bloody hell!!!
Your talents are never-ending!
That is absolutely amazing for a first sculpt.
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CRIPES. Andy pulls yet another masterful talent out of his behind with no warning. :o
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Now you really are starting to show off :o :o :o
Looking great. The folds on the cloth are very good.
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Brilliant!
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That's really rather good, keep going!
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I disappear for a week and he turns into a sculptor lol
Great work Andy (so bloody jealous ;D ).
I don't know if there would be any IP on the statue of Nelson but maybe putting his cockade on the other side might help ???
cheers
James
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I don't know if there would be any IP on the statue of Nelson
That seems highly unlikely.
I suppose things are so bad these days they've got people jumping at shadows over public monuments that are more than a hundred-fifty years old. :I
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Bin Ben has arrived safely in Lincolnshire
Its bloody huge!
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Bin Ben has arrived safely in Lincolnshire
Its bloody huge!
I'm glad it arrived in one piece. I had nightmares of delivery drivers juggling it, playing football with it and generally doing bad things!!
I disappear for a week and he turns into a sculptor lol
Great work Andy (so bloody jealous ;D ).
I don't know if there would be any IP on the statue of Nelson but maybe putting his cockade on the other side might help ???
Cheers James. I think if I'm going to have any IP issues its going to be with the creators of Mr Magoo!! I've tried and tried and I just can't seem to get the face right! :( I think Im going to need loads more practice!!....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/521c6268.jpg~original)
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Looks fantastic to me mate 8)
Not the best likeness but full of character :) I don't think it needs to be an exact replica as people will know who it's meant to be.
cheers
James
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Looks fantastic to me mate 8)
Not the best likeness but full of character :) I don't think it needs to be an exact replica as people will know who it's meant to be.
cheers
James
Of course, Sidney James, or not lol
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Face looks fine to me. I don't know exactly what Nelson looks like anyway.
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Face looks fine to me. I don't know exactly what Nelson looks like anyway.
Agreed, it looks mighty fine to me. People will know exactly who it's meant to be. :)
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You clever boy. You're doing great.
I've only ever had one stab at sculpting and the faces I produced looked something like this:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z395/Lord_Futtock/gurner.jpg)
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You clever boy. You're doing great.
I've only ever had one stab at sculpting and the faces I produced looked something like this:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z395/Lord_Futtock/gurner.jpg)
Self portrait?
lol
cheers
James
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You clever boy. You're doing great.
I've only ever had one stab at sculpting and the faces I produced looked something like this:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z395/Lord_Futtock/gurner.jpg)
Would love if I could sculpt something like that.
But as the others said, nice jobon Nelson so far :)
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Cracking stuff :)
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Not much of an update I'm afraid, I've been extremely busy at my "real" work. :-[
I've really struggled with some of this. The hands especially!! My other thing I'm really bad at is putting my finger on some detail that I was happy with when it wasn't fully dry!! :'( :'(
It's not the greatest, but it's the best I can manage! I think I'll be better if I try another sculpt.
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e0f23d3e.jpg~original)
Thanks for the encouraging comments guys!
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Looks belting to me Andy, you should be proud 8) :-* :-*
Quick question, what's with the big pile of do-do behind him lol
cheers
James
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lol lol.....sorry, I struggled with hands AND rope!!
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lol lol.....sorry, I struggled with hands AND rope!!
Aha, I see it now :)
You'd probably be better off with proper stuff. Pop down to a haberdashers nad have a look at the decorative ropes and things they've got :)
cheers
James
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hehe its excellent it really is although i did think he had gone out fishing and that was his catch behind him, mabybe string in wet pva or something or picture wire for rope
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Looks great
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That's just about good enough to produce as a mini, Andy!
Agree about re-doing the rope though, with PVA'd-up twine, or picture cable or something else.
I make my rope for terrain and siege engines and the like by using regular string, twisting it double (pinning or taping the ends to keep it in shape, and coating it in watered-down PVA. Then I fit it to shape (i.e. if it's a coil of rope, I coil it up) and give it another dab of PVA to hold it in it's final place.
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Is this better....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7159e6ad.jpg~original)
I know it's not the best picture, but I redone it. I think, looking at pictures of nelsons column, that proper twine/string would appear too "real" as opposed to carved in stone...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/16779c66.jpg~original)
Cheers guys
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I think it's pretty dawn near spot on. I think you are being far to critical of yourself. It's excellent ;D
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The rope looks a lot better now. Is the figure leaning backwards though?
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I think the figure looks off set because of the wires for the armature sticking through the bottom of the base. It's not level on the table in this picture. When I get round to build the column he stands on, it'll even out!
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That's excellent Andy. Mind you if it's a ruined Nelson's column you dont want it looking too perfect.
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Now that you reposted the pic of the column itself, that looks just fine. I think the rope in the real sculpture is oversized; partly because it's naval rope (so it's already large), but it's even larger so as to be visible at ground level.
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I managed to receive a wee care package from Langley models.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c55989b8.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/223e8773.jpg~original)
They're 'o scale' model railway accessories. The very talented Mr Thunderchicken put me onto their website a while ago. My only problem with them may be size! '0 scale' is 1:43rd and it may seem a bit big! The lamps will be fine(fully working BTW), but the phone and letter boxes may be too big.
I've also, between helping my brother with his pirate board, been making a column for Nelson. Still WIP.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/86ceac0a.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e2e9f9a0.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ce2268ec.jpg~original)
I'm planning on putting Nelson in some rubble and sculpting the freezes on the base section of the column. I don't know if anybody can help, but I can only seem to find three of the four freezes using google....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/6d44636e.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c5f94161.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/48568277.jpg~original)
I don't suppose if anybody passes this on their way to work???
Thanks guys!!
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Sorry old chap I should have mentioned its hit and miss with the O scale bits from Langley Models. I find the lamps work well though.
Found this for the fourth relief:
Battle of Copenhagen
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Nelson%27s_column_-_Battle_of_Copenhagen_relief.jpg)
Then again you could cover some of them with rubble to save you work ;)
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sculpting that base could take longer than the whole rest of the project put together, good luck and we all look forward to seeing them when done
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Stop whinging you miserable git, the sculpt, and whole project is just superb. All this moaning about doing hands and he only has ONE!!!! (which you did a really good job on) ;D ;D
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Regarding the murals;
To save all that sculpting time, you could get some 10 or 15mm Napoleonic figures and press them into a green stuff base, to give the general impression of the mural.
It would save time, and if you are going to have rubble obscuring some of it, it could work quite well.
Just an idea....
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To save all that sculpting time, you could get some 10 or 15mm Napoleonic figures and press them into a green stuff base, to give the general impression of the mural.
Unless this is also for Ainsty to cast up and sell, of course.
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Looking great :-* :-* :-*
Could you not just do a single relief and then get somebody nice to cast it for you. To me the relief's don't look different enough that you would notice at this scale. Also if covered in rubble.
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I don't think the freezes are too much trouble!! One down already and I'll do the rest during my lunch breaks at work. I think theyre quite important for the model. Apparently they depict certain moments in Admiral Nelsons life.
Anyway this is the first one....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/2722019e.jpg~original)
It's supposed to be this....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/c5f94161.jpg~original)
I know it's not entirely accurate but it's the best I can do just now!
Thanks for the comments guys and an extra big thanks to Thunderchicken for that last photo I was looking for!!
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:o :o :o
That is bloody brilliant!
During your lunch break, you say?
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Love it!
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Fantastic!
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You are annoyingly talented ;). Brilliant!!!
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I know it's not entirely accurate but it's the best I can do just now!
Guess it will have to do then...
:o :-* o_o :-*
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Brilliant :-* :-* :-*
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Now THAT'S the business!
One question: Have you thought about making the column more "ruined" as it were, with more rounds on the ground? Right now it not so much a smashed stone monument as a kids toy that's been knocked over. This is just the very early stages and the rubble will probably help a lot, but I think at least one of the rounds having split in two might be good.
But this is also up to you... right now it looks like just the top has been knocked off, so the question is by what? Physical force (a passing tripod, perhaps?) or a shot of some kind... if a shot, then maybe a shellhole in one of the rounds on the ground? Or even half a shellhole where you cut away the edge and the other half at the top of the remaining column, again where you cut away the edge, implying the cannon round, or shell, or laser shot, or whatever struck the column right on a seam between rounds.
It all depends on if you want it lightly damaged (just the top knocked off), or really smashed. If the latter, the column would be a stump just about the base, with most of the rounds on the ground, and there would probably be more diagonal shearing and smashing of the rounds, instead of clean separations at the seam between rounds. A diagonally sheared top of the stump would look very keen in that case.
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Talented git ;D
Love it all mate, gonna be a cracker when it's done :-* :-*
cheers
James
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I'll try and make the column more ruined Fram. Mason, the first one was done in a couple of hours on Sunday morning. The rest I'll do during my lunch breaks.
Anyway, two down, two to go.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/39c848f1.jpg~original)
Please excuse the pen marks. This was an attempt to get the proportions better! This ones supposed to be this....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/6d44636e.jpg~original)
Cheers for the comments guys!!
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Talented git ;D
This lol
Are you using liquid greenstuff, just the normal type or a mix of both?
cheers
James
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Just the normal stuff Jim. Can you actually sculpt with the liquid stuff? I'll need to try it!
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Never tried it myself mate, some of the parts of the sculpts look very and brushed on 8)
cheers
James
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These friezes are staggeringly incredible. :-*
"Ho-hum guys, I made a perfect copy of Michelangelo's Pieta in my lunchbreak."
That's our Andy lol
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I tried to find some reference images which may or may not help:
Image doesn't like being hotlinked (http://monster-island.org/gallery3/var/albums/neworleans/neworleans-%20120.jpg?m=1275085352) (this one is great because it has a similar pedastal to Nelson's Column).
Gigantic image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/BetShe%27an_-_broken_columns_in_a_Roman_temple.jpg)
Another pretty big image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Marian_column_destroyed,_Prague.jpg)
(http://www.free-photos.biz/images/architecture/architectural_elements/scythopolis10_by_yukatan.jpg)
(http://images.travelpod.com/users/mattandlouise/1.1283458002.fallen-column-at-the-forum.jpg)
(http://images.travelpod.com/users/czardas/5.1273447219.a-fallen-column-at-zeues-temple.jpg)
(http://galenf.com/graphics/soli6.jpg)
(http://www.firedragongames.co.uk/uploads/9/5/0/5/9505418/7880867_orig.jpg?152)
(http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/2012/03/04__23_15_19/Clmn_v3.jpg8196b3c6-934d-4412-94e6-e48b81e5aab8Large.jpg)
(http://www.fab-form.com/images/fast-tube/rain/waterDamagedCardboard.jpg)
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That's rather special... top work.
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Bloody hell, Andy, have you sold your soul or something?
This is absolutely amazing you...
Talented git ;D
(That just about sums it up perfectly!)
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That's great Fram, thanks for those pictures! I've tried to make it a bit more ruined and cut it down a bit....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/ad6c7fd8.jpg~original)
Hopefully that's better. I've also nearly finished the reliefs. I made an arse of the last one so I'll need to start it again(I spilt superglue over it) but the third ones finished at least..
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/aabaaa84.jpg~original)
That ones supposed to be this...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/7c403de8.jpg~original)
Cheers guys!!
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Good stuff all round Andy :-*
Looking at those reliefs it shouldn't be too hard to etch them into acrylic (the original ones), bit late now I know but I've only just thought of it ::)
Actually, on second thoughts, yours are better as they have been hand done 8)
cheers
James
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The workmanship here is startling :o Really really impressive. The rest of us mere mortals can only gawp.
Can't wait to see it in it's gloriously ruined state!
Cheers
Andy
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Impressive project! You are certainly using your lunchbreaks to good effect!
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Stunning, Andy!
Keep it up! :)
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Keep it coming! Any news on casting of Big Ben BTW?
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This is easily going to be one of the most detailed bits of scenery anyone's ever done. There's no way anyone will ever mistake it for any other monument!
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This is easily going to be one of the most detailed bits of scenery anyone's ever done. There's no way anyone will ever mistake it for any other monument!
I agree. It's the best miniature rendition of the Arc de Triomphe I have ever seen.. Stellar work Andy.
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Hammers is awake everyone. Hide.
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I agree. It's the best miniature rendition of the Arc de Triomphe I have ever seen.. Stellar work Andy.
lol lol Now that would take a LOT of sculpting to do properly!!
It's been a really sloooowww day at work so far. Waiting for other people is a pain in the arse, but at least it let's me do stuff. Un-related work stuff :D....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/0b0ee2e0.jpg~original)
That's only one side done.
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I think I might have mentioned this before...
Talented git ;D
:D
cheers
James
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Oh my stars and little corinthian orders. :-*
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Keep it coming! Any news on casting of Big Ben BTW?
No. I haven't heard anymore progress yet. I know Andy was going to try and have it done for salute, but that's less than a week away (I think ???)
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Holy frilly column-topping bits, Batman!
You have, as has been mentioned repeatedly, disgusting amounts of talent. Can't wait to see this finished.
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I find myself,frustratingly, putting finger prints on little bits of sculpting that I'm happy with!! I really struggle to be patient with this green stuff. So to give me something to do while bits of putty are curing, I've been using my left over bits of putty for this...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/e00df3f3.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9fb7e544.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/24e602e2.jpg~original)
It's supposed to be one of these..
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b37acf55.jpg~original)
I've still got a bit to do on the lions left side, but I'll try and get this finished along with the column.
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this may be cheating, but Fenris do some lion statues in that style... by a strange coincidence I do have 4 for them... but that's as far as that idea got... lol
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Now your just taking the piss ::) lol
Cracking work Andy :-*
Have you tried Pro-create, it's the grey stuff that a lot of sculptors are using now and I've tried it and think its better than green stuff.
cheers
James
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:o :o :o
Bloody hell, man!
Just stop now, will you?
If you dont, then the rest of us may as well give up!
It is just coming along sooooo well.
Seriously jealous!
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They both look great. How are you going to make enough to go round the column?
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I would guess he's going to cast that one? If Andy does that, he can even break and damage some more easily.
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:o
The bassreliefs you've done are freakin awesome!
Agree with Hammers, best miniature rendition of Tour Eiffel ever. Keep going! :D
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What do you do professionally that you can do this at work too? It's all I can do to glance at the forum before the technicians arrive in the A.M. and start pestering me...
Beautiful work, man. Just beautiful!
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My guess is that he is the binman at a plastics company. :D
;)
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I'm guessing he's a lighthouse keeper who only works day shifts.
Fantastic stuff
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Just gone though this entire thread for the first time.
You are one talented bloke.
I have not seen work as good as that unless it's on an architectural model makers bench and a professional sculptor's bench.
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Fantastic work keep it up.
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What amazing work you have created thanks for sharing and please hurry up and finish it so we can see
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Cheers again for all the encouraging comments guys!
They both look great. How are you going to make enough to go round the column?
I was hoping to be able to make one and then somehow cast it Colin.
Now your just taking the piss ::) lol
Cracking work Andy :-*
Have you tried Pro-create, it's the grey stuff that a lot of sculptors are using now and I've tried it and think its better than green stuff.
cheers
James
lol
Ive not tried it, but I've just managed to order a shed load of green stuff off of eBay. The Games Workshop sell theirs for £6.15 for one wee strip of the stuff, where as I got 32" worth for £8!!! Now thats a mark up by GW!!
What do you do professionally that you can do this at work too? It's all I can do to glance at the forum before the technicians arrive in the A.M. and start pestering me...
Beautiful work, man. Just beautiful!
Thanks! I wouldn't want to give away my exact job, you never know who reads these, but most of the time I'm really busy, but I do get days where I've got to wait for other people to do their jobs. Oh, and working alone most days, helps to!
Just gone though this entire thread for the first time.
You are one talented bloke.
I have not seen work as good as that unless it's on an architectural model makers bench and a professional sculptor's bench.
.....and it's diffenatly not these jobs, although who wouldn't want to do those jobs for a living!!
Anyway I've nearly finished with the column, I've just got a wee bit of sculpting to do and I'll do that during my lunch breaks.
I've managed to get a wee bit 'side tracked' and lost my 'train' of thought on the project! Sorry, REALLY bad jokes out of the way, I'm trying something extra for this. I had an idea for a wrecked underground train that's burst through the surface...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/50344cd3.jpg~original)
I've got a couple of reference drawings/photos to help...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/5c00cbfa.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/bfa6c787.jpg~original)
And this is how far I've got....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/9a2df6e1.jpg~original)
I've just got part of a bogey/wheels to do then just throw on some rubble and viola.
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O.O Wow! You made it wonderfully! Is it clear plastic, right? plasticard or such?
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O.O Wow! You made it wonderfully!
ditto :o
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HOLD IT! :o :o Back up a bit, where the fudge did you get the plastic underground train?!?! :o ???
Loving everything so far! :-*
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he made it I guess?
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he made it I guess?
Looks like it. Plasticard over a (foam?) form of some kind.
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Looks like it. Plasticard over a (foam?) form of some kind.
In that case, I would request details of the build up!
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Another great model.
To borrow a pun from Pat Mills, that's dead London.
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The 1959 model is very nice, would look great for a Dalek invasion board, but how about an earlier one? Preferably late Victorian/Edwardian for a HG Wells War of the Worlds setting?
Maybe you could get Jeff Wayne to sponsor the board?
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Looks great :-* :-* :-*
Its a pity you didn't decide to do this a few years ago when I was fixing a broken one of these. Could of helped with loads of photos then :-[
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:o :o :o
Bloody hell!
That looks the nuts!
Love it!
:-*
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I give up... you've ruined my hobby. Whatever I do I won't even reach your ankles! lol
I think I'm going to buy some clown miniatures and just stick to painting those from now on.
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Andy! Andy! Andy! You've just made my week!
Me want!! ;D :-* :-* :-* :o
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Looks great :-* :-* :-*
Its a pity you didn't decide to do this a few years ago when I was fixing a broken one of these. Could of helped with loads of photos then :-[
Oh balls!!! That would really have helped! As it is I've just decided to hide most of the detail in rubble anyway. I figure most of the fiddly stuff is underneath the carriage.
In that case, I would request details of the build up!
The build is all plastic card, built up in layers, with the top layer being really thin plastic card so that it bends over to give the curved roof. I hope this helps....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/01a3cb9b.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/732f0dd2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/f9db8d7c.jpg~original)
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That is really rather splendid. Another wonderful creation. ;D
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dam when i saw the thread i thought "at last he is going too far and this will ruin the whole piece muah"...........................WRONG..........when this whole setup is finished it will be setting the standard for anything that comes after it for the rest of us we can only marvel at your ability.
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Done! I added some wee rivets/bolts and some railings. I also drilled out the lights and signage in the front before realising my mistake! I couldn't get into the back of the panel to stop any filling falling through, but I managed to fill with green stuff and try and make one of the signs look smashed...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/8d2dc037.jpg~original)
...I think it's finished!
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Well done! :-*
Now all you have to do is Buckingham Palace and... the Victoria Memorial! ;D
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Sweet baby jesus! I go away for a couple of days... :)
Please, please, please get this cast - I so want that!
I have various 7TV scenarios running through my head for all this!!!!!!!!!
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As Karl said, it would be great to get this cast. I really, really really really need one of these for the Quatermass project.
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:o :-* :o :-* :o
That is just F****** Brilliant :-* :-*
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Thanks very much guys.
I meant to post this up earlier as well...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/56e2bd4b.jpg~original)
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Oh mumma!
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Oh mumma!
Neil - I'm heading round to Andy's now to camp out on the front step. You up for it? ;)
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Good plan. I'll bring the brandy for fortification......... and some crisps.
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Neil - I'm heading round to Andy's now to camp out on the front step. You up for it? ;)
Should I start hiding my bunnies? I don't want them boiled!! :D
Thanks again for all the nice comments guys! The plan is to try and make a full carriage next.
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Perfect for the Ainsty underground station I've been painting up! It just gets better.
I was thinking, if you do get these cast up then I'll probably have the ruined carriage sticking out from the ticket office and out into the street.
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Should I start hiding my bunnies? I don't want them boiled!! :D
Thanks again for all the nice comments guys! The plan is to try and make a full carriage next.
An extra latch on the hutch wouldn't do any harm. :)
Seriously, this is quality stuff and would love to see it more widely available.
I'll be working on my Ainsty underground station too at some stage, so the carriage would by ideal.
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the only question i have is on the column and its just a thought really, would it be reinforced in any way and if so would that meen metal rods..............as i say i have no idea, its just tall column and must have some strengthening for winds. 1843 did reinforced concrete exist then? a knowledge gap for me that i know you guys will fill
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I don't think that kind of building method was used. There's pictures a couple of pages back showing ruined columns, maybe older than Nelsons, but they don't have any pins. It would make it more ackward to cast anyway.
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I don't think that kind of building method was used. There's pictures a couple of pages back showing ruined columns, maybe older than Nelsons, but they don't have any pins. It would make it more ackward to cast anyway.
Good Man Andy, thinling of the poor guy who has to cast them!
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Karl, new plan. We camp outside Andy at Ainsty's workshop.
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Is the plan for Andy to eventually cast all these?
Any news on a Big Ben release date BTW?
(Neil - your plan is good too. My parents are nearby and can send food parcels).
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Karl, new plan. We camp outside Andy at Ainsty's workshop.
That would be a better idea. I know where my bruv stays and you don't want to camp out there (scary) lol
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Karl, new plan. We camp outside Andy at Ainsty's workshop.
Oh Oh.... time for my six monthly move....
I am moulding up Big ben next week, and Andy has kindly agreed to let me have these other fab models too, I will collect them next weekend from him at Carronade. they will more or less be ready for moulding right away
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You beauties! I'll be having me all of those!
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Looking forward to seeing the cast versions 8)
cheers
James
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:o wow... just wow!
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This thread is a smorgasbord of modelling goodness - a completed gaming board of ruined London would be truly a sight to behold. Keep up the excellent work.
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Thanks for the comments gents! I will try and get a full London board done. I'm planning on a 3x3 with the Thames embankment on one side.
I've finished sculpting the lion. I've bulked a lot of it out, namely the mane and I felt the back legs needed a bit more. Anyway this is what it's supposed to be...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/b37acf55.jpg~original)
....and this is what I've got...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/236eba74.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1c2cd611.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/1dc8dcde.jpg~original)
I've just got a wee plinth to make which should take about five minutes and that's it.
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You've got a good eye Andy 8)
Have you got the cattle prods ready for when the unwashed hordes descend ;)
cheers
James
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Have you got the cattle prods ready for when the unwashed hordes descend ;)
lol
That looks good Andy.
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Amazing thread!
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Looks great :-* :-* :-*
I have some of that dolls house mouldings you were talking about on that other thread. Might be useful for the plinth. You can pick it up tomorrow night at DnD if you are coming?
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Bloody hell, Andy, that is great!
:-*
Aslan may be after you for Image Rights!
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i couldn't do any better myself so this is just constructive criticism, bloomin hell i can't believe i have written that, its more that the lions head could maybe slightly more upright and proud, but like i say my attempt would look like a walrus or something so no offence meant its just an observation to a project that is looking ney on perfect.
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You've got a good eye Andy
Just the one though, the other ones shit! ;)
Looks great :-* :-* :-*
I have some of that dolls house mouldings you were talking about on that other thread. Might be useful for the plinth. You can pick it up tomorrow night at DnD if you are coming?
Cheers Colin I'll pick that up tonight then.
i couldn't do any better myself so this is just constructive criticism, bloomin hell i can't believe i have written that, its more that the lions head could maybe slightly more upright and proud, but like i say my attempt would look like a walrus or something so no offence meant its just an observation to a project that is looking ney on perfect.
I would never take offence of someone posting their view. It's only my second sculpt and I need as much help as I can get!! If I was critical of myself I would say the proportions aren't right, the back legs still don't look good, it's a bit rough and, most importantly, the more I look at it, the more it looks like a big shaggy dog with its tongue hanging out! lol lol
I need more practice me thinks!!
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Just the one though, the other ones shit! ;)
One good ones enough ;)
Fantastic sculpt :)
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So let me see...Big Ben, Nelsons Column, four lions and a smashed underground train...
All waiting to be cast up and sold you say...hmmm...
Let me know when they're ready as I'll need an excuse to dodge the Mortgage that month, but I'll be waiting oh yes...I'll be waiting...Poor Mrs. Goat, she's still reeling from Salute.
Stunning work. Want one of everything.
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the more I look at it, the more it looks like a big shaggy dog with its tongue hanging out! lol lol
A few specific possibilities:
I think the muzzle's a bit oversized; the end of his "face" should taper a bit more. And he looks thin because his ribcage seems to have vanished (notice how the back half of the torso is actually the wider half?).
The back legs might be a bit small too, but it's hard to tell from those photos, if you compare the thigh and haunch on the left in the first picture and the second picture, the greenstuff thigh is much lower. But in the third (overhead) picture, it looks much better, so I'm not sure there.
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ribcage seems to have vanished (notice how the back half of the torso is actually the wider half?).
Sounds like the former Mrs. Goat... :D
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hehe i would agree with you that the tongue needs trimming, but second scult ever, then as before you are impressive with your range of abilities...............you could leave the tongue tho and just name him dougal after that dog on magic roundabout. he must already have some sentimental value to you.
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A few specific possibilities:
I think the muzzle's a bit oversized; the end of his "face" should taper a bit more. And he looks thin because his ribcage seems to have vanished (notice how the back half of the torso is actually the wider half?).
The back legs might be a bit small too, but it's hard to tell from those photos, if you compare the thigh and haunch on the left in the first picture and the second picture, the greenstuff thigh is much lower. But in the third (overhead) picture, it looks much better, so I'm not sure there.
I couldn't agree more with the first part, the face is too big and i think the whole body needs beefing up. After finding other pictures of it today, it looks a lot thicker in the body. The first two pictures are of the model at the same stage, it's just the angle of the photo that makes the difference.
Grade:Must try harder!! :D
Sounds like the former Mrs. Goat... :D
lol lol
Please don't use me as an excuse to Mrs Goat! One woman beating me up is enough!! ;)
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One trick might be to look at things like Disney drawings of lions, because everything is broken down into simple shapes and planes.
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Ainsty Andy had the first painted castings of the Tube and Nelson's Column on his stall at Broadside today. They look fantastic!
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Did you indulge?
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I must say that your stuff is great Andym.
I have been following this from the start and never expressed my view of it. In the beginning I thought that the project was too ambitious and that you would never finish the bell tower, but now I'm in awe.
Great subway car.
Regards
/Kalle
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Ainsty Andy had the first painted castings of the Tube and Nelson's Column on his stall at Broadside today. They look fantastic!
and you didn't take a photo Karl? for shame...
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All will be well! will do pictures and post them up veeeeery sooon
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Exciting! Can't wait to see how the cast version will look.
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This is a fantastic thread! Keep up the great work. :o
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Tube train and Nelsons Column now instore!
(http://ainstycastings.co.uk/images/nelson1.jpg)
(http://ainstycastings.co.uk/images/nelson5.jpg)
(http://ainstycastings.co.uk/images/tr2.jpg)
Excuse the rushed paint jobs, I did them the night before last weekends shows
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Looking great!
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So good to see these cast and painted up. Utterly brilliant!
Top work by the two Andys! ;D
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Cool!! I can't wait to get my own copies to paint them up!!! I've been dying to paint these for ages!!
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Nice, the terrain captures that certain atmosphere. You're very good at sculpting!
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Oh Christmas came early for me this year...
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/553697C2-C426-4EA8-BAB0-F178E23801BC-1472-000003E7A7732479.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/98B49949-1606-4A5F-B607-D5C6AE1C8BD0-1472-000003E7B1132EE2.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/D3773C48-69F6-4979-B867-260298C110A2-1472-000003E7B9EB71F8.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/39C1CE59-2956-4E9E-BD60-E6F40AC6B50E-1472-000003E7BFE481CF.jpg~original)
Cast look good! I'm particularly impressed with the train, I think that'll paint up really nice and the Nelsons Column is going to be used for Crooked Dice's board. Now wheres my brushes, it's been that long since I've painted anything, I hope I remember how!!! :'(
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Looks great Andy :-*
cheers
James
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They all look great together - looking forward to seeing them all at Salute.
8)
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Hubba Hubba!
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Oooooh! That brings out the scale of the column nicely, that's on the buy list.
Andy, will Andy at Ainsty be csting the undamaged train?
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I'm just waiting on a wee bit of Michi's subway to scale it to, so that it levels with the platform, to finish it!
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My wee train is finished and I'm quite happy with it.....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/49D3194F-E343-45CB-91C2-A1D34E1CFF42-3766-0000052E26983EFF.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/5268711E-BC8C-4A06-9C4C-8C9A47DEC5EA-3766-0000052E39611FDF.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/C813D7CD-4AA8-454C-859A-DF9008733BA0-3766-0000052E4B3E3E4E.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/D690B9CF-469F-4887-BCCF-21F9EA78AC46-3766-0000052E681BDD3B.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/42769253-E690-4291-8A14-5B7A4A9BF007-3766-0000052E6D99FD58.jpg~original)
Sorry for all the pics, I'm like a proud dad showing off pictures of his kids!!!!! ;)
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:-* superb painting and weathering. The windows are,,, er ,,,wow!!! Just wow!!!
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Is that the right red as used by London Underground ;D
Cracking work Andy :-* :-* :-*
It's much better than kids lol
cheers
James
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Lovely scratch build, casting and paint job.
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Now who wants to tell him he can't spell "Ainsty".....?
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Oh balls!!! :( :'(
Ah well I offered it for Andys display, if he doesn't want it I'll repaint some sort of name on it!! Even if he does want it I'll redo it!
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Lovely paint job. I see bad spelling runs in the family lol
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Now who wants to tell him he can't spell "Ainsty".....?
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Great job! Came out really well... overall. ;)
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Woo, really nice paintwork! With or without a dictionary!
Some great texture added and the weathering is perfect.
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Lovely paint job. I see bad spelling runs in the family lol
Should that not be....'I sea bid spoiling ruins in the fimaly'... :D
Hardly a burning example of the Glaswegian education system!!
Cheers for the nice comments guys!
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Thanks for letting us smugly point out a trivial thing as a way to discredit the wonderful whole. ;)
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Spelling be damned – that's a cracking model and a cracking paint job.
Now, where my Oyster card? lol
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Superb stuff Andy, that paint job brings it alive, simply wonderful. ;D
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Thanks for letting us smugly point out a trivial thing as a way to discredit the wonderful whole. ;)
Yup, its spoiled, so Andy should just pop it in the post to me and paint another one....
;)
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I on the other hand would never slur the artistic expression of additional vowels...
Send it to me instead Andy, there's a battered marsbar and as much Iron bru as you can drink in 10 minutes for you?
;)
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:-* That's gorgeous paintwork, fack the spelling :-*
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wow...
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Fabulous painting Andy.
I know I keep saying it, but you're far too good at this to be doing it for fun. You really have a great talent. There must be a living in it somehow!
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I on the other hand would never slur the artistic expression of additional vowels...
Send it to me instead Andy, there's a battered marsbar and as much Iron bru as you can drink in 10 minutes for you?
;)
Its mine all mine I tell ya .. BRUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Wow! I just love the way you did the windows, and everything else too, of course! :-*
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My wee 'problem' is now hopefully fixed. I thought I'd put this on here just for completeness......
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/830EAA6C-8BF7-4233-9566-61B4CB83495D-366-0000005F45D914E5-1.jpg~original)
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/2CAE0269-2C40-4D39-9888-F8204F0BDFF7-366-0000005F4F456CD9.jpg~original)
Thanks very much for all the nice comments guys!!
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Yeah: Feck the original spelling, that is bloody fantastic!
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My goodness!!! Brilliant,brilliant,bloody brilliant!!!
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I have to agree with the other posters - superb work!
I especially like your knack for picking just the right colours and painting them so deftly - that tube train for example is like something straight out of a gritty graphic novel!
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Looks Great!
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Stunning work!
I love the windows; they're so realistic!
Cheers
Andy
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The windows are fantastic :-*
Could you take a close up of one please :D
cheers
James
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It's all right I suppose.
Although they're replacing all the tube trains with a new design these days. You'll have to scrap this and make another.
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The windows are fantastic :-*
Could you take a close up of one please :D
cheers
James
Sorry James, my camera on my phone can't take any closer pictures without being blurred!! I was using this picture from the web of that helps....
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv179/andym2105/0C823CFC-D417-4FF1-909B-D6CF3F0FFE18-366-000000B2C9704FC2.jpg~original)
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Magnificent!
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Loverly stuff :-*
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Photobucket links repaired.
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A real blast from the past and well worth looking at, and drooling over, all over again.
Thanks for fixing it, mate.
Stuff like this should never be allowed to be 'lost'.
:D 8) :-*
Still hate ya, though.....
;D
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So glad that it’s back up in all its glory
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I have just realised how long ago this was!
:o :o
How quickly that time has flown by.
::)
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happy to see that you were able to view the photos
it is always a pleasure to see your achievements ;)
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Wow, you still do unbelievable boards. Great! Is it for 7TV?
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Not for a while mate! I’ve not cut any foamboard in anger for ages now! :'( I’ve had a bit of a real life, 1:1 scale project in an old house for the last 7 months! :'(
The board ended up being Crooked Dice’ Ruined London board.....
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44122.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=44122.0)
The overall plan got scaled back to a demo-table sized thing. So no dried Thames and no ruined Houses of Parliament. Nelson was still in there though!
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Nelson was still in there though!
He almost wasn't, as I nearly twatted him with a chair at my first BLAM.
That would have been some way to say 'Hello'!
:o :o