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Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: PeteMurray on September 26, 2006, 02:27:40 PM
1. The difference between Conan and Kane is that one is a whipcord-thin Protestant and the other is a steely-thewed barbarian. All other differences are negligible.

2. When REH decides that a baddie needs to die, that man dies messily.

3. REH writes a good swordfight scene.

4. The human race consists 93% of craven cowards, 6.98% decent but otherwise flawed people, and 0.02% grim-faced warriors.

5. Race relations have come a long way in 60 years, and for the better.

6. There is not one "Not Solomon Kane" mini on the market that resembles the character in the book. The Advanced Heroquest Witchhunter comes closest, but that's about it.

7. Any large, teeming city of thousands will be burned to the ground or destroyed by an earthquake by the end of Chapter 5. Furthermore, Central Africa is littered with Atlantean, Hittite, and Hyborean city ruins, some of which are in excellent condition.

8. The goodness of a girl is directly proportional to the amount of clothing she is wearing when introduced to Solomon Kane.

9. The only things you need to survive a cross-Africa trek are a sword, a pistol, and a magic staff. Food and water are secondary concerns.

10. The difference between REH and Lovecraft is that REH is less interested in the subtle nuances of Dark Gods than Lovecraft is.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on September 26, 2006, 08:33:39 PM
:lol:  very good, Pete, time for me to read Solomone Kane again  :)
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: PeteMurray on September 27, 2006, 02:19:32 PM
I bought the $10 omnibus edition off Amazon, and it was worth every penny. I have a ton of ideas for a Solomon Kane-style Gloire expansion now!
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Howard Whitehouse on October 04, 2006, 11:53:58 PM
Hey, I just found a Kane compilation in the dark jungle temple --- no, hold on, it was a charity sale outside the supermarket.

On to my pile 'to read' then ---
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: SgtPerry on December 02, 2006, 12:55:15 PM
I just ordered Gloire and swashbucklers minis from Brigade Games yesterday, and this morning I looked at my REH Books and I saw Salomon Kane.

(http://solomonkane.free.fr/kane.jpg)

There's a french rpg in pdf here : http://solomonkane.free.fr

Is there an existing figures of Kane in 28mm ?

Olivier
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Driscoles on December 02, 2006, 02:49:25 PM
Thanks Olivier !

Visit also this site. Some poems there.
Great for Kane fans !

http://www.solomonkane.com/

Björn
Title: Joining the fun
Post by: Mephysto on December 12, 2006, 08:37:03 AM
... 11) If you are a famed brigand, a bandit whose name your hunters remember even after years, whose accent and manners clearly differ you from the locals - a big hat is enough to conveniently hide your identity. If you take it off, however, prepare to be recognized in an instant.

12) If you have a pistol, use it. It makes life easier. If you have no pistol, wait a while and someone will bring you one.

13) You don't need any weapons when you can have homing gorillas.

Not finished the book yet, but so far a great read. :twisted:
Title: Re: Joining the fun
Post by: PeteMurray on December 12, 2006, 12:17:50 PM
Quote from: "Mephysto"

13) You don't need any weapons when you can have homing gorillas.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Quoted for truth!
Title: Re: Joining the fun
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on December 12, 2006, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: "Mephysto"
12) If you have a pistol, use it. It makes life easier. If you have no pistol, wait a while and someone will bring you one.


 :lol:

Welcome aboard!
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Mephysto on December 13, 2006, 06:39:12 AM
Thanks for the welcome, me 'earties. :)

And finished the next chapter in the book yesterday. Glad to see that there still are some archetypical cliché pirates around! Yo ho! He didn't get them all! :twisted:

Oh, and by the way:

14) To portray the mechanics of Swashbuckling more accurately, the next supplement of Gloire has to introduce the new character class Puritan (Grade 6).

:wink:
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Operator5 on December 13, 2006, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: "Mephysto"
14) To portray the mechanics of Swashbuckling more accurately, the next supplement of Gloire has to introduce the new character class Puritan (Grade 6).

:wink:


Don't expect to see him in Pirates, but that Puritan Demonbuster may make an appearance afterwards.  :wink:
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: PeteMurray on December 13, 2006, 12:20:54 PM
It's a well known fact that Puritains come in two varieties: Master manipulators of mobs, and steely-thewed master swordsmen. But they won't be Grade 6, because we still need to leave room for Doc Savage somewhere on the Grade system, and the werewolves need a fighting chance.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Mephysto on December 13, 2006, 06:37:47 PM
Quote from: "Operator5"
... Pirates...

Aye, I want "Under The Black Flag".
Give it to me.
Now.
Yarrr.
(Can you sense the subtle tone of myself looking forward to this? :wink:)

Quote from: "PeteMurray"
It's a well known fact that Puritains come in two varieties: Master manipulators of mobs, and steely-thewed master swordsmen. But they won't be Grade 6, because we still need to leave room for Doc Savage somewhere on the Grade system, and the werewolves need a fighting chance.

:lol:

Well, fair enough, methinks. So give the Docs and the dogs a chance, as long as you keep the pirates in! :mrgreen:
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: bolislaw on December 15, 2006, 01:34:55 PM
Ok, this is going to seem really bad.

I didn't know there were SK books? The only exposure I have had to Kane was in the comic mini series and in the backs of others, all done by Marvel.
I thought he was only a comic character, maybe with one graphic novel or something....

 They are still my favorites, right along with Moon Knight and Iron man.

How many books are out there and where can I get them easily?
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: PeteMurray on December 15, 2006, 01:46:19 PM
Quote from: "bolislaw"

I didn't know there were SK books?


Solomon Kane was created by Robert E. Howard, the same guy who wrote Conan the Barbarian. The Solomon Kane stories are mostly novellas or short stories, classic serial- and one-off-pulp. An omnibus edition was written a few years ago. You can find it on Amazon or any big bookseller for around $10. It has new artwork, which is done well and compliments the mood of the stories.

REH's Kane stories are very, very similar to the Conan stories, but take a great deal of inspiration from Lovecraft and the Cthulhu genre. The two were close friends; Lovecraft wrote a eulogy to Howard after his suicide.

The one thing that detracts from the stories is that like Lovecraft, Howard was very much into sorting people by "higher" and "lower" races, and he's quite blunt about where his sympathies lie. This is pervasive throughout the stories. You have to take that in the context of the period, where race relations were, shall we say, not quite as egalitarian as they are now. These elements were cleared out of the Marvel comics, and if you're not prepared for them, they're kind of a shock.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: SgtPerry on December 15, 2006, 02:21:50 PM
You can also read the short stories of REH featuring Agnes de Chastillon, a french swordwoman.

http://www.violetbooks.com/swordwoman.html

I definitively thought about Agnes when I first saw the Brigade Games swashbucklers  minis!

(http://nemedie.free.fr/site/IMG/jpg/AgnesdeChastillon.jpg)


Olivier
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: bolislaw on December 15, 2006, 04:16:19 PM
Thanks!! I will hit the bookstore while shopping tonight.

My favorite mini run of SK in Marvel was when he went to Africa and dealt with the vampires and got his staff. I really liked how it questioned his religious morality. (I may be mixed up on the story though, it was soooo long ago)

You are right though, I don't recall there being any "racial" things, only the mention of savages and such, but not in a bad contaxt.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: PeteMurray on December 15, 2006, 04:29:57 PM
The story of Solomon's staff is in the book, and it heralds one of the most tedious passages on race relations. Which is a shame, because it's right at the end of the most Lovecraftian story. Or maybe that's entirely appropriate?

Howard was not above stooping to the "noble savage" school of thought when it served his purposes. Consistency is not a strong point of Howard's writing.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Mephysto on December 18, 2006, 05:13:36 AM
Finished it yesterday (finally... never got time to read more than a handful of pages at once), and I really liked it. Very nice book there, but my favourites still are "The Blue Flame Of Vengeance" (hey, it has the archetypical Romeo-and-Juliet-phenomenon, it has duels and swordfights a-many, it has this wonderful picture of Kane coming down these stairs into the cellar, and it has pirates - what can you want more? :wink:) and "Wings In The Night" (I just loved to see Kane despair and then his cold, absolutely fascinatingly written revenge). :mrgreen:

But back to the revelations this book makes about nature, physics, God and all the rest in between.

15) Armour is bad for your eyes.

16) R.E. Howard does not like lions. At all. No lion gets more than one paragraph and some form of metal into some form of vital organ.

17 a) The killing potential of birds and the likes is enormous.

17 b) The killing potential of birds and the likes is enormous only as long as you don't cut them to pieces, shoot them with pistols or burn them alive.

18 ) Speaking of it, the practice of cutting someone or something to pieces, shooting it with pistols and burning it alive is always the best thing to try first when encountering somebody. If it does not help, go for the neck.

19) If some tribesmen offer you the chance to become their God - decline. Bad Karma.

20) "When a man sets foot on an adder, he asks not its size."

:wink:
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: bolislaw on December 18, 2006, 02:36:19 PM
Well, thanks guys....
I picked up "The savage tales of Solomon Kane" at Barne's and Noble's on sat... and am already halfway through. I put down the WW1 book I was reading to relive some of my childhood.

I am happier for it!!!
thxs again!!!
Dan
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: warrenpeace on December 19, 2006, 04:35:29 AM
Quote from: "SgtPerry"


Is there an existing figures of Kane in 28mm ?

Olivier


The closest thing that I have seen to a Solomon Kane figure is a figure from Reaper.  Sorry I don't know how to cross post the exact link to the image, but you can take a look by using Reaper's figure finder, putting in human adult male fighter cleric with sword in right hand and hammer in left hand with the sculptor's name, Bob Ridolfi.  Except for the image, the written bits are as follows, beginning with Reaper's SKU number:

 02861: Abram Duskwalker, Witch Hunter
Misc Detail: Pilgrim Hat
   by Bob Ridolfi    Human    M    Adult    Fighter Cleric         R:Hammer
L:Sword

Funny that I couldn't find a way to search for the figure's name, "Abram Duskwalker," since I knew the name of the figure and had spotted it at a local gamestore.  I didn't spot any other Reaper figures with pilgrim hats, and I failed to spot any crawling through Old Glory's vampire wars lines of figures either.  The Abram Duskwalker looks pretty good, as do most of those figures from Reaper.  It probably costs $4 or $4.50 US.  It could likely be modified, as I'm not sure the hammer really fits when you probably want a pistol for Kane.

Anyway, hope this helps...
 
Warren B.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 19, 2006, 09:40:25 AM
If looking for a figure (I´m only judging from the illustration on page one, never heard of the books before this tread cropped up), why not take a look at this "Griffon Inquisitor" from the Confrontation Range manufactured by Rackham:

(http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique_us/images_produits/GRGM03.jpg)

A classic figure, which I own as well.
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: loki on December 27, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
A few pictures for an upcoming  RPG:

http://www.peginc.com/Downloads/Art%20Preview.pdf
Title: 10 things I learned from reading Solomon Kane
Post by: The Shadow on February 18, 2007, 06:15:23 PM
Quote from: "PeteMurray"
Quote from: "bolislaw"

I didn't know there were SK books?


. An omnibus edition was written a few years ago. You can find it on Amazon or any big bookseller for around $10.


I'm not sure which edition you have, but there's one SK story that doesn't involve the supernatural at all!  It's "The Blue Flame of Vengeance".  This story wasn't originally published in "Weird Tales" like the other SK stories.  If I remember correctly the character was named "Malachi Grim" and the story wasn't published anywhere before an author, who's name I've forgotten, changed the plot a bit to make it supernatural and to fit SK, so he changed the name of the character to SK and published it back in the 1960's or '70's.

Anyway, it's a very good adventure story with a pirate theme and if you haven't read it, it's worth finding.