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Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: coggon on December 03, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
I recently purchased the Hasslefree "Harby" figure and am in the process of painting him up.  BEE-OOO-TI-FUL model and excellent service from Brandon at Rattlehead here in the states.

I am now in search of suitable figures for Liz Sherman and Abe Sapiens.  I would prefer metal.  A friend has the Hellboy Clix, and they won't do. Somewhere I have the Miss Scarlett figure from the game "Clue" and she looks right, but she is nearly as tall as the Hellboy fig

I have perused my usual suspects (mostly Copplestone's Future Wars Line and (gulp) Foundry's Street Violence line) for a suitable Liz, but nothing strikes me as being "right".  I would prefer an unarmed figure with an open hand dressed in modern clothes.

As far as Abe goes, can anyone suggest a "fishman with a pistol" figure?

Thanks
Title: Re: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 03, 2007, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: "coggon"

I am now in search of suitable figures for Liz Sherman and Abe Sapiens.


I havebeen considering one of the Hassle free girls, like Jess, Eve or Maria.

(http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/catalog/eve%20thumbnail.jpg)(http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/catalog/thumb%20jess.jpg)(http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/catalog/maria%20thumbnail.jpg)

The important thing to me is the cigarette (which can be added) and that she looks apropriately grungy.

About Abe: I have no idea what so ever.

EDIT: Does the fellow to the left look aquatic enough for you?
(http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/gallery/images/miniatures/p_ltd_2004_ploog_phlunkey_c.jpg)
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 03, 2007, 04:24:34 PM
I was thinking about something similar the other day. I have the Hellboy from Graven Images (via Monolith), and I need something to go with it.

I nearly bought the box of Clix on saturday when I saw them in my local comics emporium, but on reflection ("They're a bit small. And bendy lookin'. And twenty five quid! Bums to that!") I decided not to.

I had also considered a Hasslefree for Liz, but Abe is gonna be really difficult.

I do have it on good authority though, that Monolith will be releasing twelve Hellboy characters in the new year, or before the new film comes out, anyway. I don't know what they will be, and suspect they may be closer to 40mm, but it might be worth waiting for.  :?:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 03, 2007, 04:27:29 PM
Bum to Monolith for doing such nice things but in the wrong scale... ;-)
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: coggon on December 03, 2007, 04:44:19 PM
Hammershield-I agree about the comment on Monolith.  40mm is not an option for me.  

Your comment about the cigarette got me thinking about Artizan as I have recently painted some of their figs that have exactly that.  I was looking in their pulp section, and the "Michelle" figure caught my eye. There is something about the pose and the beret that seem "right".  As I already have that model, I think I could live with the Sten gun.

Regarding the fishmen you suggested, yes they are fishy enough, but I can not ever imagine the voice of David Hyde-Pierce coming coming out of either one of them :lol:

JollyBob-you nailed it perfectly on the clix fig "Bendy" and "small"
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 03, 2007, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: "coggon"
Regarding the fishmen you suggested, yes they are fishy enough, but I can not ever imagine the voice of David Hyde-Pierce coming coming out of either one of them :lol:


Who is David Hyde-Pierce and can't he say *bribbit*?
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: TadPortly on December 03, 2007, 04:57:06 PM
RAFM do Deep Old Ones which could be used:

(http://www.rafm.com/images/product/COCMM/02922.jpg)
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: P_Clapham on December 03, 2007, 07:07:30 PM
I suspect a conversion involving a "gill man" will be necesary.  Too bad reaper didn't do a creature from the black lagoon.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: PeteMurray on December 03, 2007, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: "hammershield"
Who is David Hyde-Pierce and can't he say *bribbit*?


Niles Crane on Frasier*. He can probably say *bribbit* in a very educated accent.

*: Also voiced Abe in the movie
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: revford on December 03, 2007, 07:27:56 PM
You may find a suitable Liz model in the GZG range, they look a bit 80s compared to the superb Hasslefree models but there is a nice modern civilian selection.

The website is a little thin on pictures so you may want to download the catalogue from the second link.


http://www.gtns.co.uk/store1/commerce.cgi?product=SL&exact_match=on

http://www.groundzerogames.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=9&Itemid=50
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Graven Steve on December 04, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
Quote from: "hammershield"
Bum to Monolith for doing such nice things but in the wrong scale... ;-)


One of the reasons we were able to negotiate a license was that we weren't doing the models in a scale that would compete with the SJG or Clicks models.

I know 40mm is not to to everyones taste - but in the terms of our contract that's what we are allowed to do.

We're just waiting for clearance on the Baba Yaga model........
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 04, 2007, 10:43:46 AM
I understand, Steve. Your stuff is great but to me a new scale is like a new hobby and that's not something I can see myself doing. Luckily a few things (like the Rampagers) are fairly scale neutral but a 40mm Hellboy will be streching things.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 04, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
Actually, I'm quite happy using the 40mm Hellboy with my 28mm stuff. I mean, how big is he anyway? Eight feet tall?

Next to the others, he looks kind of large ogre-sized, certainly not too big to use.

The others in the range may be more problematic, but I'll probably get them anyway. Just for lookin' at.   :lol:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Plynkes on December 04, 2007, 02:01:52 PM
I thought it was David Hyde Pierce, too. It certainly sounds like him. But if you check the cast list he ain't on it. Abe was played by someone called Doug Jones.

Coincidentally, for a picture of David Hyde Pierce check my latest blog entry:

http://misterplynkes.blogspot.com/

See if you can tell which one is him. (At the bottom of the first entry on the main page.)
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 04, 2007, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: "Plynkes"
I thought it was David Hyde Pierce, too. It certainly sounds like him. But if you check the cast list he ain't on it. Abe was played by someone called Doug Jones.



Yeah, it was Doug Jones in the suit (also played the Silver Surfer in FF2 and two of the monsters in Pan's Labyrinth ) but David Hyhde Pierce deffo did the voice. See imdb (scroll down a bit)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167190/fullcredits#cast

Interestingly, Jones provided the voice of Abe for both Hellboy animated movies. And Hyde Pierce played a character in The Amazing Screw On Head animation by Mike Mignola.

Funny how things work out.  :)

And yes, since you ask, I am a colossal nerd.

Edited once for anal retention of facts.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Plynkes on December 04, 2007, 03:16:08 PM
Ah, uncredited, that would be why I couldn't find him in the cast list at the time.

How confusing. I was certain it was him, and most put out when I saw someone else's name on the credits. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 04, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
No bother. I'm not allowed to play the "interesting fact" game at home anymore, so I'm glad I can be of use somewhere.  :lol:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on December 05, 2007, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: "revford"
You may find a suitable Liz model in the GZG range, they look a bit 80s compared to the superb Hasslefree models but there is a nice modern civilian selection.

The website is a little thin on pictures so you may want to download the catalogue from the second link.


http://www.gtns.co.uk/store1/commerce.cgi?product=SL&exact_match=on

http://www.groundzerogames.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=9&Itemid=50


I like the loo of GZG, but aren't they more "true 25" than 28mm? I'm not averse to mixing different sized figures, but they may be just too small - especially as I've been reliably informed that Hasslefree are quite hefty.

Maybe the female figures would fit in better than male ones, given that most 28mm females I've seen are quite large? Some possibly useful as adolescents?
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 05, 2007, 10:09:59 AM
Hasslefree figures hefty? Compared to what? 15mm's?

In my experience they are more naturally proportioned than others, certainly not as chunky as Copplestones, although they can be mixed.

The female figs especially are very finely done, I don't think that you'd have a problem with them. If you like I can take a pic or two tonight and compare sizes for you.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on December 05, 2007, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: "JollyBob"
Hasslefree figures hefty? Compared to what? 15mm's?

In my experience they are more naturally proportioned than others, certainly not as chunky as Copplestones, although they can be mixed.

The female figs especially are very finely done, I don't think that you'd have a problem with them. If you like I can take a pic or two tonight and compare sizes for you.


No, no, JB! Not Hasslefree's females. I meant to imply other some manufacturers make females that are not appreciably different in bulk to male versions, but not them.

I've only recently discovered Hasslefree & fell immediately in love with them - so much so that I'm about to place an order & break my own "no-more-figures-before-Christmas" embargo :cry:

I agree entirely with your post - the error is entirely mine in not being accurate  :oops:  

My apologies and I would very much like to see your pics  :)
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 05, 2007, 10:33:13 AM
Ah, gotcha.  :wink: No problems.

Yeah, sure, I'll still do some. I'll do it when I get home tonight, and compare them to whatever I've got lying about.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: pierrebi on December 05, 2007, 12:31:31 PM
What about:
http://www.sjgames.com/miniatures/hellboy/heroes/

(http://www.sjgames.com/miniatures/hellboy/heroes/img/liz1.lg.jpg) Liz
(http://www.sjgames.com/miniatures/hellboy/heroes/img/abe1.lg.jpg) Abe
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 05, 2007, 05:02:40 PM
@ Gluteus Maximus.

Here's the pics. I hope they are of some use to you. First the Ladies:

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/Ladies.jpg)

And then the Gentlemen:

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/Gentlemen.jpg)

I think you can see what I meant from this, but as ever, my photgraphy isn't all that.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on December 06, 2007, 08:58:06 AM
Excellent! Just what I needed.

I really DO love that Hasslefree Dionne figure.......... I'm going to nick your colour scheme when my own arrives. Shameless :wink:

I think your choice of the Hasslefree "Mad Dog" figure was inspired. His heroic manly frame puts those other wimps to shame  :lol:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: JollyBob on December 06, 2007, 09:13:24 AM
No problem boss.

If you want the colour scheme, check out the thread in Future Wars again, I put a better pic of Octobriana up and you can see the difference in the colours better.

Thinking about it, snip the gun from Dionne's left hand, and GS on a beret and cigarette, and you's have a pretty good Liz Sherman.

Arse. I might have to order another one now.  :x
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on December 06, 2007, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: "JollyBob"
No problem boss.

If you want the colour scheme, check out the thread in Future Wars again, I put a better pic of Octobriana up and you can see the difference in the colours better.

Thinking about it, snip the gun from Dionne's left hand, and GS on a beret and cigarette, and you's have a pretty good Liz Sherman.

Arse. I might have to order another one now.  :x


Great idea! :)

Double-arse  - I placed an order for loads of Hasslefree stuff yesterday, so now you've made me think I need more of their figures, too
 :x  :lol:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on December 06, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Hmm, tried to google for Liz Sherman pics, but this is the best I could find:

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/hellboy-3.jpg)[/img]


well, this is a better one, but sadly not relevant to the figure:

(http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0401/hellboyliz.jpg)

 :love:  :lol:

Has anyone got a good full-length pic of her in beret & coat etc, for painting reference?
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 06, 2007, 10:23:49 AM
Yes. Selma Blair is a bone fide hottie.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: coggon on December 06, 2007, 02:15:45 PM
Thank's for all the suggestions.  I am kind of leaning towards using Artizan's "Michelle" figure for Liz.  For me at least, the "trench coat and beret" look more than makes up for the fact that she is carrying a sten.

I'm still stuck for an Abe figure though.  Not of the fishmen that I saw on the Frother's Fishmen Showcase look like anything I would care to attempt a conversion on.

What about portraying Abe as a figure in a trench coat with some sort of mask or breathing apparatus?  Something along the lines of a Parroom Masked Minion without the helmet?  Or maybe using a Martian or some other sort of alien?  I must confess that I am totally ignorant in regards to sci-fi figs, so if any of you sci-fi guys have any suggestions, I would appreciate them
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 06, 2007, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: "hammershield"
Yes. Selma Blair is a bone fide hottie.


Please, settle for "bona fide" or "boner fide". Either way, Sigmund Freud must be raving in his grave.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on December 06, 2007, 04:28:16 PM
It's not my me, it's my keyboard! I swear!
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: coggon on December 06, 2007, 04:35:37 PM
Chris,

I CHOOSE  :roll: to believe that Hammershield was attempting to do two things with his allegedly bungled post

1) Convey both "bona" and "boner" in the same thought

2) Conserve the letter "R"-I hear that there is an impending worldwide shortage of "R"'s and I applaud Hammershield's attempt to conserve them.

I though will continue my proligate use of said letter until prices rise to the point that I will no longer be able to afford "R"s :wink:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: randolph carter on January 19, 2008, 03:25:36 AM
Do you know these models ?

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_002.jpg)

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_003.jpg)

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_007.jpg)

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_005.jpg)

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_004.jpg)

(http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/rotating/HRBP/HRBP_001.jpg)

I think they're great. It's a pack from horrorclix.


[EDIT] How, sorry... I have not seen that :  "I am now in search of suitable figures for Liz Sherman and Abe Sapiens. I would prefer metal. A friend has the Hellboy Clix, and they won't do." in the first post...

I am a newbie :oops:
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on January 19, 2008, 08:29:48 AM
That Li'l Hellboy is great!
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on January 19, 2008, 08:58:55 AM
Quote from: "hammershield"
That Li'l Hellboy is great!


Yes, I have to agree. I also love the Liz Sherman figure! :love:

I had never really considered using these type of soft plastic figures before, until I got some of the new Dr Who "Micro Universe". They are very good indeed & these Hellboy figures also look like they are worth getting. A [fairly] local shop stocks them all, along with the "Aliens" figures, so I think I might have to pay a visit...

Randolph, welcome aboard & thanks very much for posting those pics :D
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Hammers on January 19, 2008, 09:35:34 AM
I always liked the concept of the Johann character to. There is a a larger action figure which has a smokey transparent head which looks really good. It would be fun to try to do something similar in 28 mill.
Title: Got Hellboy fig-Now what?
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on January 19, 2008, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: "hammershield"
I always liked the concept of the Johann character to. There is a a larger action figure which has a smokey transparent head which looks really good. It would be fun to try to do something similar in 28 mill.


Well, there have been some nice transparent resin figures produced - an "invisible " Frodo by GW & some Predators by IIRC Ainsty, so making a "smokey" resin figure should be feasible. Then all you'd need to do would be to paint the rest of it as usual.

Then again, I'm not a figure manufacturer, so could just be talking absolute twaddle  :(