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Title: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Blackwolf on November 22, 2011, 05:39:22 AM
Never done this before; anyway give it a go,my expression is terrible ;D

 First you need a backdrop; I like to make my own,so I often carry my camera in my car......Here's one I took on the way home from work, from my trusty Impreza;


   (http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP9354.jpg)

 I look for vaguely dramatic days,and often have an idea of how I'm setting up the photo which gives me an idea of the backdrop I need.
  And remember cropping is your friend,try and take a reasonably balanced pic with a bit of depth,light is important; darker in the background,lighter in the foreground.

  Next up setting the shot up with a scenic (or not) base.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Blackwolf on November 22, 2011, 06:32:58 AM
And here's the basic set up; The scenic base is polystyrene,perfect for trees,you can just plunge the tree in where ever you like,the rocks are slate. The base is pretty average,I built it for LPL5,it won't win any prizes,does the trick though.

 (http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP9466.jpg)


 Next; taking the photo.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Blackwolf on November 22, 2011, 07:14:53 AM
Now here is the pic;

  (http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP9470.jpg)

 Only the figure bases have been photoshopped out,other than that nothing has been done to the photo (well cropping).
 Taking the photo?
  Hopefully your camera has an AV setting,set this high,the higher this setting the higher the focal area (ie more of the scene will be in focus).
 Fix your exposure levels to either -0.5 or 0.0,I find any higher than this you get glowing green grass o_o

 Adjust your white balance,I find my best pics are outside on cloudy days or at dusk,selecting the 'cloudy' white balance icon (this is an personal preference).

 Use a tripod and set the timer,depending on your exposure levels this can change the shutter speed...Be patient ;)
 When you take the photo,don't put the minis right at the edge of the base,leave a little foreground......

  That's about it for now,it's a bit of a rambling mess,hopefully you will see how easy it is,laughably so really :D

  Now some questions?
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Sangennaru on November 22, 2011, 08:09:46 AM
That's cool, it worked really well!

i tried to do something like that A LOT of time ago, like when i was 15... the minis are quite horrible, but the overall look is nice!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/9kct21.jpg)

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Tiger-3-of-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Blackwolf on November 22, 2011, 08:34:38 AM
Nice,like the Tiger,very dramatic :)
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: dijit on November 22, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
That's fantastic - Thankyou! Now to try some better scenic photos.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Doomhippie on November 22, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
Thanks a lot, great to see how you're doing these outstanding pics...
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Mason on November 22, 2011, 02:58:41 PM
Thanks, Blackwolf!

Any advice regarding the taking of photos is much appreciated!
(Mine are not good, always something out of focus!)



Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Marine0846 on November 24, 2011, 03:28:33 AM
A really great show and tell.
Thank you.
Now will have to try to put it in practice.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: infelix on November 24, 2011, 07:34:36 PM
Very nice and definitely something I should try out.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Croaker343 on November 25, 2011, 07:52:46 PM
Beautiful.  Give me a reason to save some of those scenic calendars I sometimes get from family members for Christmas.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on November 25, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
I have in the past tended to use a simple pale blue bed sheet or shirt.  Last year while checking out a discount stationers I came across some huge forest/sky posters which I have been planning to use with my terrain to improve the images I take.

I use a Minolta Dimage Z1 just 3.2 mega pixels but a great macro feature. However I have never been able to use the timer - can anyone help with advice?

Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: kitrok on March 21, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
Thanks for this tutorial.  Would something like this work for a game in progress?  Like maybe adding a big panorama to one or two corners of a game board in order to convey a sense of the environment beyond the play area?
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Keith on March 21, 2012, 04:38:05 PM
(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1035/silly7dn.jpg)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9615/camel01zv6.png)

I like doing these, its a good use for holiday snaps :)
I find that faking depth of field by blurring can work wonders too (and helps stop the background from taking away from the figures too much).
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: AndrewBeasley on March 23, 2012, 12:20:39 PM
I often wondered about using a picture on the computer monitor behind the figures.

It may need a polarising filter to cut out reflections and the brightness dropping down but it would make a Martian landscape possible...
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Keith on March 23, 2012, 01:20:52 PM
I often wondered about using a picture on the computer monitor behind the figures.

It may need a polarising filter to cut out reflections and the brightness dropping down but it would make a Martian landscape possible...


A problem with this is that you'd need a very fast shutter speed or you'll pick up the screen refresh as a big line.
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Blackwolf on March 27, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
Keith,your stuff is brilliant :-* :-* :-*

Sorry I missed these posts; holiday snaps are great for backdrops :) And these days I'm always on the look out for interesting buildings and so forth.
  Good advice on the blur too Keith :) Another trick I use is to photograph the backdrop twice,first with ones scenery and then again (perhaps with some of the scenery moved),print this off and one gets a wonderful depth.

 ie  (http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/greywolf1066/IMGP9508.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: Snafu on March 29, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
I like to use the free Software GIMP for the manipulation, ehm, optimization of my miniature pictures.

Heres my old friend Yeti  in his home cave.
http://ganzklein.blogspot.de/2012/03/yeti-sasquatch-bigfoot-man-apes-of-wild.html (http://ganzklein.blogspot.de/2012/03/yeti-sasquatch-bigfoot-man-apes-of-wild.html)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2UGR1HejgkU/T3SHiWfkAWI/AAAAAAAAAj0/7yLAldVfng8/s1600/miniature-background-maniplation-3.jpg)

Here you can see him together with the author having some free days in San Francisco.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1-f69C0g-UY/T3SJL6ANAYI/AAAAAAAAAkU/YdenSwK-TrQ/s1600/miniature-background-maniplation-1.jpg)

Here he is in a somewhat more natural environment.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aRPHNPs4qG0/T3SJlb9JU9I/AAAAAAAAAks/fCh1gGxMbXE/s1600/miniature-background-maniplation-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Using Backdrops for Your Photos.....And So On.
Post by: haydn on April 02, 2012, 12:56:18 PM
Just a note on printing back drops, use Matt (Photo) paper not glossy (like I did :'().
that damn reflections... :-[