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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on December 06, 2007, 07:53:33 AM

Title: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on December 06, 2007, 07:53:33 AM
just found these nice articles about the topic
 
The Battle of Tanga Bay
http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/caj/documents/vol_03/iss_3/CAJ_vol3.3_08_e.pdf
 
Joint Fires in the East African Campaign
http://sill-www.army.mil/famag/2001/JUL_AUG_2001/JUL_AUG_2001_PAGES_10_15.pdf
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Siaba on September 22, 2009, 11:36:55 PM
I would be interested in refighting the battle of Tanga but have been unable to find the number of men in british units. Anyone could help ?
Thank you!  ;)
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Will Bailie on September 23, 2009, 03:04:37 AM
Skirmish Campaigns has a book on Tanga
http://mysite.verizon.net/fisherts/skirmishcampaigns/tang/index.htm

Hope that helps!

W
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 23, 2009, 06:40:56 AM
Are you looking at actual numbers or actual units?

The book Will is referring to is quite good to get you started in the number of scenarios it offers in gaming the conflict.

Helen
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Siaba on September 23, 2009, 08:41:45 AM
Sorry for my poor english.  :?
I'm refering to actual number of men in each british unit.
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Ignatieff on September 23, 2009, 11:44:34 AM
Great little articles Prof - thanks!
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 24, 2009, 12:05:56 AM
Here are the numbers as requested:

27th Bangalore Brigade:

2nd Loyal North Lancashire - 832
63rd Palamcottah Light Infantry - 762
98th Infantry - 762
101st Grenadiers - 762

Imperial Service Brigade:
13th Rajputs - 766
2 Kashmir Rifles - 732
1/2 3/Kashmir Rifles - 377
1/2 3 Kashmir Infantry - 379
61st KGO Pioneers (please note that this was in the attached troops, but appears in this brigade) - 766

Attached:

28th Mountain Battery - 285

I've not included a breakdown of officers/ORs, or Indian troops in the European unit an/or British staff in Indian units.

2 MGs per unit (not mountain gun battery) including the pioneers.

Helen
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Siaba on September 24, 2009, 09:34:28 AM
Thank you, Helen, it's great!  :)
No need to include the breakdown of Officer/OR, I juste needed the number of men per unit to choose a scale to represent the unit on the wargame table with a correct number of miniatures.

Just a question about uniforms: the Osprey book show german sailors from the Konigsberg in white and dark blue uniform. Does anybody know which one was the most commonly worn in Africa ?
I would think it was the white uniform because of the heat but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 24, 2009, 10:14:50 AM
Thank you, Helen, it's great!  :)
No need to include the breakdown of Officer/OR, I juste needed the number of men per unit to choose a scale to represent the unit on the wargame table with a correct number of miniatures.

Just a question about uniforms: the Osprey book show german sailors from the Konigsberg in white and dark blue uniform. Does anybody know which one was the most commonly worn in Africa ?
I would think it was the white uniform because of the heat but I may be wrong.

Whilst white would be the way to go, it would not take long before they wore out their uniform. A mix of blue and white would be okay alongside some khaki etc.

Helen
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Siaba on September 24, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
Great Idea, Helen, thank you !  :)
From the pictures I have seen, it seems that uniforms wore out quickly. I'll make a ragged german army to use them in games from 1915 to the end of the war and keep the figures in smart uniforms I already have for Tanga.
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 24, 2009, 08:24:52 PM
Great Idea, Helen, thank you !  :)
From the pictures I have seen, it seems that uniforms wore out quickly. I'll make a ragged german army to use them in games from 1915 to the end of the war and keep the figures in smart uniforms I already have for Tanga.

Hi Siaba,

The Germans also made good use of captured uniforms and civilian clothes as well. Identification was kept up by a brassard or some other recognition sign.

If you check through previous posts on this subject you will come across a photo of a German naval crew on lake T.

Helen
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Doc Twilight on September 24, 2009, 08:56:10 PM
Great info, Helen.

Now, if we could only get somebody to do those Konigsberg guns....

Hmm....

-Doc
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Siaba on September 24, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
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The Germans also made good use of captured uniforms and civilian clothes as well. Identification was kept up by a brassard or some other recognition sign.
OK, thank you.
This could be a great modelling project to produce ragged german soldiers. I already plan to use some explorers from FOUNDRY to depict them. The few pictures and depictions of schutzen and askari I have found are very inspiring.  ;D
 
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If you check through previous posts on this subject you will come across a photo of a German naval crew on lake T.
OK, I'll look for it.  :)
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 24, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
OK, thank you.
This could be a great modelling project to produce ragged german soldiers. I already plan to use some explorers from FOUNDRY to depict them. The few pictures and depictions of schutzen and askari I have found are very inspiring.  ;D
 OK, I'll look for it.  :)

Please look at this link:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=3948.0

Helen
Title: Re: WW1 in Africa
Post by: Helen on September 24, 2009, 11:13:23 PM
Great info, Helen.

Now, if we could only get somebody to do those Konigsberg guns....

Hmm....

-Doc


Hi Doc,

I've tried to do my best to obtain the plans for the gun, but alas to no avail. I even had the fellow from South Africa who restored one of the guns come back to me in his language saying he couldn't provide the details due to ...?

It would have happen sometime ago, but no plans no gun.

Helen