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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Kingscarbine on January 03, 2012, 12:04:55 PM

Title: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 03, 2012, 12:04:55 PM
Hi,

I'm looking for 28mm oxen traction Boer Wagons. Foundry used to have a nice one but it's OOP.  :(
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Malamute on January 03, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Redoubt Miniatures have a 28mm Boer wagon:

http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=3bf7695c7b8566a63e533528ce771ef9

Sadly there is no photo on the website. I have the model and it is a nice one, quite large (in scale with Redoubts larger/taller figures).
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 05, 2012, 12:27:50 PM
Thanks. Will check it out.
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 05, 2012, 01:52:06 PM
Sorry for my lack of specific knowledge but I can think of two styles of wagon in use by the boer (that I associate with them anyway) but I can't remember if it mattered whether it was pulled by horses or oxen. There is the one that comes up in a curve towards the back and there is a flat one with angled but almost flat sides that come off like wings.  No idea of their names sorry. Which are you after?

Some creative Googling and:

Voortrekker wagon (the one that comes up at the back)

(http://www.pmbhistory.co.za/portal/witnesshistory/UserFiles/SysDocs/bb_content/147/Afrikaners%20in%20Pietermaritzburg_Page_5.jpg)

And the 'historical boer wagon'

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_409/1245087542ZbgouD.jpg)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 05, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
You know what, I've only ever seen them in old photo's and never compared them side by side before. Is it infact the same wagon but with it's sides down?!?
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Pentaro on January 05, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
I saw this one last week, I think it looks like Dewbakuk's:

http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2125

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img2125.jpg)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 05, 2012, 02:26:57 PM
I saw this one last week, I think it looks like Dewbakuk's:

http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=2125

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img2125.jpg)

Yep, that's the one I was thinking of too.
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Malamute on January 05, 2012, 02:39:31 PM



And the 'historical boer wagon'

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_409/1245087542ZbgouD.jpg)

This is identical to the Redoubt one. If I get a chance at the weekend I'll take a photo of it.
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 06, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
Well, both types were used during the campaigns in Southern Angola so one of each would be nice. I've found some great photos of them in use:

http://fotosnamibe.blogspot.com/2011_01_25_archive.html
http://www.akpool.co.uk/postcards/230554-postcard-angola-carro-boer-rinder-auf-der-strasse
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0104-71832009000100003
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Lowtardog on January 06, 2012, 11:28:11 AM
This is identical to the Redoubt one. If I get a chance at the weekend I'll take a photo of it.

I have on sitting on windowsill at old house...bugger forgot about that...nice model too :?
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on January 06, 2012, 12:08:33 PM
So does anyone have any scale plans for Boer Wagons???

I have a bunch of pics and some pics of scale models but it would be easier if some plans were available so these could be massed produced in miniature.... ;)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 06, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
The flat Ox wagon is available as a great looking lasercut kit frim these guys
http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=268&pid=115

I've seen the 'sprue' that it's cut on and it's seperate to the rest of the pieces so I see no reason why they can't sell it seperately... I'd ask myself but then I'd feel obliged to buy them and right now I don't need them :)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: fantail on January 06, 2012, 01:59:18 PM
Blue Moon has lots of various wagons... http://bluemoonmanufacturing.com/index.php?cat_id=27 (http://bluemoonmanufacturing.com/index.php?cat_id=27) including BMM1316 South African Boer Wagon
(http://bluemoonmanufacturing.com/images/BMM1316.jpg)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 10, 2012, 11:14:21 AM
The flat Ox wagon is available as a great looking lasercut kit frim these guys
http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=268&pid=115

I've seen the 'sprue' that it's cut on and it's seperate to the rest of the pieces so I see no reason why they can't sell it seperately... I'd ask myself but then I'd feel obliged to buy them and right now I don't need them :)

I'll ask them then  ;) Many useful stuff there. Thanks.
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 10, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
Cool, let us know what you get, even better, show pics :)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 10, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
There's a pdf with assembling instructions here: http://www.4ground.co.uk/default.aspx?page=256
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 10, 2012, 04:08:43 PM
I meant when you've done it :)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 11, 2012, 10:44:49 AM
 lol I figured as much... But I thought you would like to see what the kits looked like.  ;)
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 11, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
I've already seen it, hence me directing you there  :D

They should really do a Voortrekker though, given that they already do the ox wagon and a two wheeled horse wagon, they should complete the set  :P
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Paul on January 11, 2012, 09:35:10 PM
I don´t suppose there are any in 1/72nd scale???  :-I
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 12, 2012, 09:44:13 AM
Good news! 1st Corps has really useful stuff on the Cape Wars range:

CW15   Supply wagon   £10.00
CW16   Oxen Cart   £10.00 
CW17   Oxen team   £9.00 
CW18   Colonial supply wagon   £8.00 

http://www.1stcorps.co.uk/online_shop/index.php?cPath=149_150
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 22, 2012, 11:21:18 PM
4Ground wagons are now available individually.  All we had to do was ask :D
http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=248&dm_i=141M,O6Y5,5IB8SP,1YGWO,1
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on January 23, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
Brilliant stuff. I didn't want to ask though as I would then feel compelled to buy them :) I do want to get a bunch but not right now.
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: swiftnick on February 24, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
Paul,
Spencer smith do the old Jacklex colonial range and have this wagon
http://www.spencersmithminiatures.co.uk/BS1_1_.jpg
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 24, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Is there a good source of cheap "African" cattle? Anything in plastic?
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Galloping Major on February 24, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
4Ground wagons are now available individually.  All we had to do was ask :D
http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=248&dm_i=141M,O6Y5,5IB8SP,1YGWO,1

Are these the ones that NorthStar are now selling too?


www.gallopingmajorwargames.com
Title: Re: Boer Wagons
Post by: Dewbakuk on February 24, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
Are these the ones that NorthStar are now selling too?


Yes