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Title: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 08, 2012, 05:02:07 AM: Well the taxman has been quite generous last year so I'm contemplating sinking some cash into a range of miniatures.
I have been contemplating commissioning some decent 28mm figures for South America's all time biggest slugfest. I came close to doing this last year and I had a sculptor and manufacturer lined up.

I'm contemplating starting with some Brazilian volunteers, some Paraguayan infantry and some Gaucho style cavalry, which could be used for either Brazilian or Argentine cavalry. I figure that this allows folk to play some battles at an early point without waiting for a complete range, which depending on sales may or may not eventuate. Judicious use of ACW figures can fill in some gaps so I'm looking at Perry compatible figures. When I spoke with Nic at Eureka last year he suggested Alan Marsh as the likely sculptor. I adore Alan's work so that would work for me. For those not familiar Alan is the sculptor of such things as the Eureka French Revolutionary range, AWI and the fabulous Italian Wars Gendarmes.

My questions for the forum are:

1) Would you be prepared to buy figures for the war in 28mm?
2) Is the above selection adequate as a start point?
3) Would anyone be interested in sharing costs/input in getting a range up and running?

Interested in hearing your input.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Arlequín on January 08, 2012, 09:18:25 AM: It might have been better to do this as a poll, with the range of options suggested. You'll get the comments and input, along with a grass roots feel of the likely interest in general. You can remove the post and re-do it as a poll... I think. :?

Personally Chaco War would have been my suggestion for 28mm. ;)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Hammers on January 08, 2012, 09:20:57 AM: Quote from: Arlequín on January 08, 2012, 09:18:25 AM

Personally Chaco War would have been my suggestion for 28mm. ;)

Same here. I would definitely buy some of that. As it happens and apart from Colonial, 19th century gaming has little attraction to me.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 08, 2012, 09:26:40 AM: Hard to invest the necessary enthusiasm for a war between Paraguayans and Bolivians. I suppose any loss is still a going to be a win.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Helen on January 08, 2012, 10:11:49 AM: Carlos, Chaco War hands down! You have my vote on this conflict.

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: argsilverson on January 08, 2012, 10:49:41 AM: My old passion comes true? Always wanted these colourful south-american armies. Good also for some VSF settings

A very interesting subject and very much ignored.
A colourful and bloody war which ended with the defeat of the Paraguay which lost about 90% of the male population.
Large (?) battles in trenches and lots of river action.

Personally I would be interested in some Paraguayans and personality figures, too!

As for the filling the gaps, most can be found in french from Franco-Prussian-war since Argentina and Brazil forces used to wear French chasseur uniforms and some negro zouaves ,too. Also carlists might be used, too.

So far, only covered in 15mm with dedicated miniatures from freikorps 15mm.

By the way: Argentinian President of the time, Juan Mitre, was of Greek origin. As a boy was a survivor of Chios massacre (during GWI in 1822) and rescued and ratsed by some missionaries and moved to Argentina. The rest persons Dom Pedro, Solano Lopez and Eliza Lynch, Fernado Flores quite interestin subject.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Arlequín on January 08, 2012, 11:37:18 AM: It's hard to generate interest in something that most people are largely not aware of. Ask most wargame people about South America in the 19th Century and you'll draw some blank stares, comments on Pancho Villa and the Emperor Maximillian. At worst they'll mention the Magnificent Seven and the Alamo... none of which are actually related to South America obviously.

I'm in a similar frame of mind to Hammers, I've no great interest in the 19th Century, so I'm obviously not in your target group. However imagine I am. The idea of being able to begin gaming the conflict just by buying the first releases of a range is a good one imo, as is the logical extension that your games will grow as the range does (or doesn't).

Personally I'd be tempted to begin generating the spread of knowledge and interest in the conflict by setting up a blog. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you get a far wider audience than here, which is, to be honest and without criticism, not really that orientated towards historical gaming. There's also people out there who just collect figures and never venture into forums, so wouldn't be aware of such a range existing.

The biggest problem I can see is that the 'other war' in the North is much more an easy sale. Loads of ranges and choice, and a seemingly fanatical fan base, even in the UK for some reason. The strengths of the Paraguayan War are its difference in scope and that it's colourful... but then again so is the French Army of WW1, the least popular out of the 'Big 3'.

Despite all that, the Chaco War has grabbed some people's imaginations from out of nowhere, so no reason why this shouldn't with some pushing. Good Luck with this!

:)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Maichus on January 08, 2012, 12:07:39 PM: It's an interesting conflict for sure! :-* (From a gamer's/collector's point of view, of course.)

What you have to keep in mind is that most wargamers (I'm not excluding myself) are as fickle as feck. ;)

Some might be interested and enthusiastic today but bored by it in a half years time, when you might have the first miniatures available for sale (no offense to anyone intended). On the other hand, a lot of gamers seem to fall for the 'shiny new toy'-factor which might drag people into a period they never thought of before just by seeing nice (painted and presented) miniatures.

In the end, it's a gamble. You might get a great response (i.e. sales numbers) or only warm words. :-X
(Unless you use some kind of kick-starter project, like Eureka with the 100 and 300 club.)

(There was a thread on starting one's own miniature line in the open talk section some time ago, iirc. Might be worth cheking out.)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: fastolfrus on January 08, 2012, 12:11:04 PM: When Foundry first sculpted Franco-Prussian they generated extra interest by also producing two coloured A4 plates of uniforms that they sold alongside the figures.

Maybe you could consider a leaflet to go with the figures?
Perhaps in PDF form so you don't have to pay for colour printing.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: argsilverson on January 09, 2012, 01:29:05 PM: It is a true fact that the "guerra de Tripla Allianza/ Guerra do Paraguai", is quite unknown to us Europeans.
As far as I can remember in the wargaming community there is only minimal information available. The first I remember was a small leaflet issued by Freikorps 15, sold at 50p, to support their dedicated range of 15 mm figures. Foundry has issued a relative book on the subject.
The stroy is quite a bloody affair shadowed by the ACW, which is greatly known and happened almost at the same time.

Anyhow it is true that marketing helps. Both proposition made by Maichus and Arlequin are worth considering and both approaches might help promoting a new range.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 09, 2012, 01:55:39 PM: Quote from: fastolfrus on January 08, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
Maybe you could consider a leaflet to go with the figures?
Perhaps in PDF form so you don't have to pay for colour printing.

That's a very good idea.

The only reference I have come across was 'Sharpe's Devil' when he implausibly goes and meets Napoleon on St Helena before getting embroiled in skulduggery on the east coast of South America.

Sounded quite interesting.

Perfect for some skirmish gaming to start with :)

As to your questions, probably yes to number one, don't know that much for number two and I've got my own range of figures on the go for number three (not for this conflict though).

cheers

James
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Steve F on January 09, 2012, 03:46:27 PM: Quote from: fastolfrus on January 08, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
When Foundry first sculpted Franco-Prussian they generated extra interest by also producing two coloured A4 plates of uniforms that they sold alongside the figures.

See also the Perry booklet on the Carlist Wars.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 09, 2012, 04:01:02 PM: Man... I was thinking about sculpting 28mm figs for the WotTA using the Perry figs as a guide. I've been collecting books for some years and have bought a couple last summer via the Brazilian Embassy in London (inside contact ;)). I'm in if you're serious about it.

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: frontal assault on January 09, 2012, 05:44:28 PM: Althogether this sounds like a great idea. As the others have mentioned, not much is known about this war outside of South America, and sadly I can't do anything but lend credit to this. All I know is roughly when the war took place, 1865-1871 I think and that it involves Brazil, Bolivia and Argentina ganging up on little Paraguay. For those who love figthing as the underdog it sounds great.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Matakakea on January 09, 2012, 05:59:33 PM: I think I could be tempted by a few of these. I had the pleasure of fighting a 15mm Brazilian army a few years back and it did look rather nice on the table. Foundry also have a book on the war which looks rather good from the glance I've had through it, in fact it's only lack cash thats stopped me buying it so far :(
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 09, 2012, 09:28:26 PM: Thanks for the feedback chaps (and chapettes). I honestly think that this is a period that, given some quality miniatures, will spark quite a bit of interest. There is already an old 15mm range (Kriegspiel) and recently I saw someone has launched a range of 28mm Paraguayans. I'll admit the latter looked pretty bloody awful to me, but that;s a matter of taste.

It's true, it's another niche, within a niche, like many wargaming periods. That said, it's the golden age of esoteric. Who would have predicted a Carlist war range from two of the world's best sculptors? Who would have predicted books, wargamers guides and figure ranges for the 19th C South American wars of liberation? On a personal level, I would have been very surprised if five years ago someone said, yes a range of Portuguese for a largely unknown/ forgotten set of conflicts in Africa.

As it happens there is quite a bit of information out there in English already. To start with, there's the superbly researched Foundry book on the war by Terry Hooker. Line drawings of all the troop types with good descriptions for gamers. Orders of battle, a decent history of the war and accounts of the major battles, even useful information on the naval side to the war. The bibliography alone is worth the investment.

There is a rather good S&T boardgame on the war. It's one of those game inside a magazine affairs. That has a good summary of the war too.

There is at least one Yahoo group (SACAWars) in English that has a focus on the war. Some well read gents there and a good resource for gamers.

As for uniforms guides, well actually there's a lot out there already, free and online. In addition to the NYPL uniform plates there is also the complete text of Gustavo Barroso' seminal work on the uniforms of the Brazilian army, Uniformes do Exército Brasileiro made available by a Canadian university. Public domain too.

http://www.archive.org/details/uniformesdoexerc00rodruoft

Finally there is the rumour that Osprey may be planning a text. I suspect if that goes ahead it would light the necessary spark.

Anyway thanks for the help and this therad has already speked some interest in the project. I knew it wan't just me and my tendency to irritate my wife by disappearing to traipse through Brazilian and Argentine military museums. I'll be back in Brazil in a couple of months and I'm contemplating a side trip to Paraguay. If I get there I'll do my best to take some photos of any Chaco War stuff to keep Helen, Jim, and Hammers happy.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Arlequín on January 09, 2012, 09:42:36 PM: Good luck trying to make Hammers happy... ;)

Clearly there's some interest, so go for it. As you say, who would have thought 'Carlist Wars'? It is true to say that a good range of figures will spark some interest too.

:)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 09, 2012, 11:18:21 PM: Quote from: Arlequín on January 09, 2012, 09:42:36 PM
Good luck trying to make Hammers happy... ;)

:)

I wonder if he would be interested in a Rolex from Ciuadad del Este? Swiss precision engineering (sort of) but at a fraction of the usual cost. Guaranteed to give the correct time at least twice daily. :)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Helen on January 10, 2012, 01:31:53 AM: I received my Osprey Chaco War book yesterday and very keen to see someone start this unusual conflict, but for now Carlos, good luck with your adventure into the War of the Triple Alliance.

Happy holidays in Paraguay if you go.

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 10, 2012, 09:13:33 AM: Quick question, were there any sieges etc in the conflict?

Better to ask here than a probable fruitless search on the 'net :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 10, 2012, 09:33:57 AM: Yes, several. The Paraguayans had extensive fortifications along their frontier and were adept at building defence works. The most noted allied assault against Paraguyan field works was probably the Battle of Curupaiti, where they faced triple lines of earthworks, bolstered by inundations and extensive abatis works. The war also saw extensive use of naval bombardment. Think ACW with ironclads, monitors gun boats and whacking great guns but in a more colourful setting.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 10, 2012, 09:39:21 AM: Thanks for that :)

Now I'm getting interested :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/Guerra do Paraguai
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 10, 2012, 10:27:00 AM: I remember five years ago no one was interested in gaming the Chaco War. Now that Osprey released a book about it many people are starting to get ideas. The same would happen if they published a WTA or a War of the Pacific book.

There are many Ibero-American conflicts that are very interesting to game with a small amount of figures. The problem is the language barrier and the availability of good sources in English but now you can find many old books about almost any war on Google Books and Internet Archive.

I have inside information that QRF is expanding the old FK15 WTA booklet/panflet and there are good intros to wargamers available like John Tuohy's "Wargaming the Paraguayan War – 1864-1870" (http://www.amazon.com/Wargaming-Paraguayan-War-John-Tuohy/dp/1453847839#_)

Some useful links to open your apettite:
http://fireandfury.com/rffsupport/rffwta.shtml
http://www.archive.org/details/lettersfrombattl00burt
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/Guerra do Paraguai
Post by: Hammers on January 10, 2012, 11:20:18 AM: Quote from: Kingscarbine on January 10, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
I remember five years ago no one was interested in gaming the Chaco War. Now that Osprey released a book about it many people are starting to get ideas. The same would happen if they published a WTA or a War of the Pacific book.

My interest in the Chaco dates back to an excellent article in War Monthly from the 80's. There is an great Mollo illustration of a barefooted Bolivian 'repete' with a Bergman submachine gun climbing up a look out post in a hollowed out jungle tree trunk. Packed with exoticism, that image, and it has followed me since. But enough about that. This thread is about the 19th century war in the region.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/Guerra do Paraguai
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 10, 2012, 11:36:29 AM: Quote from: Hammers on January 10, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
My interest in the Chaco dates back to an excellent article in War Illustrated from the 80's... But enough about that. This thread is about the 19th century war in the region.

First time I read about it was in Miniature Wargames #13, before I had facial hair... Now, lets get back on track.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 10, 2012, 12:35:12 PM: Ok, now lets be fair my friend. Bolivianos cop a lot of blame for a lot of things in South America, their migrant workers are on the chief whipping boys in Argentina but you cannot blame them for facial hair! :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: traveller on January 10, 2012, 08:15:14 PM: Carlos,

I would buy any miniatures that be of more general South American style, gauchos, peasants etc They could be very useful for a wider time period including the liberation from Spain. I look forward to hear more about your project ;)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 11, 2012, 11:20:58 AM: Quote from: Arlequín on January 09, 2012, 09:42:36 PM
Good luck trying to make Hammers happy... ;)

Clearly there's some interest, so go for it. As you say, who would have thought 'Carlist Wars'? It is true to say that a good range of figures will spark some interest too.

:)

As a side note. The Uruguayan Colonel Léon de Palleja was a former Carlist officer that emigrated to Montevideo in 1840 and took part in the many civil wars of the period. He was killed in 1866 at Boquerón del Sauce. He had abundant facial air.
:D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 11, 2012, 11:33:24 AM: Quote from: traveller on January 10, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
Carlos,

I would buy any miniatures that be of more general South American style, gauchos, peasants etc They could be very useful for a wider time period including the liberation from Spain. I look forward to hear more about your project ;)

The Gaucho cavalry I have in mind would have application for quite a big chunck of time and space. The poncho covers much of the uniform so really it's just minor variations in headwear. You could use them from the wars of liberation through to the late 19thC.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: traveller on January 11, 2012, 04:40:56 PM: Quote from: carlos marighela on January 11, 2012, 11:33:24 AM
The Gaucho cavalry I have in mind would have application for quite a big chunck of time and space. The poncho covers much of the uniform so really it's just minor variations in headwear. You could use them from the wars of liberation through to the late 19thC.

Sounds interesting!

Any thoughts on sculptor?
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 11, 2012, 08:25:46 PM: Alan Marsh would be my preference.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: traveller on January 11, 2012, 09:13:15 PM: Quote from: carlos marighela on January 11, 2012, 08:25:46 PM
Alan Marsh would be my preference.

if so, I will be your customer ;)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on January 21, 2012, 12:04:41 AM: I will buy two armies worth

shipka
UK
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 25, 2012, 06:30:04 AM: BTW why is this on the modern adventures board? Even for me the 1860s are a little distant in time.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Hammers on January 25, 2012, 07:05:45 AM: Must be a mistake. It belongs in Colonial, Big Battalions or Other, doesn't it?
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 25, 2012, 07:11:39 AM: Yes, a mistake. Moved now to Big Battalions.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on February 23, 2012, 06:37:48 AM: Anymore thoughts about a range Carlos..?
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on February 23, 2012, 06:56:30 AM: Awaiting a quote. I should have more details tomorrow. My fault I've been rather busy of late.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on February 23, 2012, 12:22:49 PM: Look forward to hearing more detailed plans..

sacredcarp@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Geoff
UK
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: jp1885 on May 11, 2012, 08:02:24 AM: If anyone's interested, I have some painted 15mm Paraguayan War armies for sale. See http://hereford1938.blogspot.com/p/for-sale.html for more details.

(I've also posted this in the Bazaar, so apologies for the double post!)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on May 15, 2012, 05:40:22 PM: Carlos is there any more news on your thoughts for a range..?

Kind regards,

Geoff
UK
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on May 15, 2012, 06:13:05 PM: Geoff,

I'm currently in Brazil so it's currently on hold, I suppose you could call it research.

I got some initial quotes from Nic and need to talk to others who wanted to go into the project. It will depend on them. I'm not sure I can justify funding the whole project myself. If it's a goer then I'll talk with Nic, when I get back, sometime in June.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: HerbyF on May 17, 2012, 12:17:25 AM: I would definately be interested in a range of figures. Many of the troop type for this and a lot of other conflicts in South America during the 19th century copy the dominant european styles of the day. A lot of the figures needed are already produced in ranges from European and/or colonial conflicts. Also ACW, Mexican/American War and the Maximillian Adventure. Maybe start out with some of the more unique troops and suggest figures that would fit in from other ranges. Also some thing like the gauchos would be useful over many periods in this region, even for the Mexican/American War and the Maximillian Adventure as irregular cavelry. The more you can tie in with other lines and other wars the more success full this will be.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on May 17, 2012, 11:17:00 AM: Quote from: carlos marighela on May 15, 2012, 06:13:05 PM
Geoff,

I'm currently in Brazil so it's currently on hold, I suppose you could call it research.

I got some initial quotes from Nic and need to talk to others who wanted to go into the project. It will depend on them. I'm not sure I can justify funding the whole project myself. If it's a goer then I'll talk with Nic, when I get back, sometime in June.

The more people get involved the better. Who's interested in splitting the bill?
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: traveller on May 17, 2012, 03:25:18 PM: Could maybe some sort of "100 club" like Eureka does work? You list the references planned and people can sign up for the ones they like. Personally any generic types like gauchos would be my preference. If they would have loose heads and weapon arms the order would be bigger ;)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on October 15, 2012, 12:49:01 AM: Hope you are still considering
project
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 14, 2013, 01:29:24 PM: Hi guys,

I've decide to invest some of my piggy bank money and start a company. I'll start with a couple of 28mm packs for the WotTA/PW. There's no date and I'm still considering turnning to Kickstarter for some investment or request you generous contributions to help pay the the sculptors and production moulds. Anyone contributing will receive they investment in figures and a special figure of D. Pedro II, Emperor of Brazil, mounted and in campaign dress. I have Ebob a Paul Hicks waiting for the list(s) to start sculpting and send dollies to Griffin Moulds. My plan is to start sloew and see how it goes. I hope to finish the range in a couple of years or more depending on the sales. My aim is to make compatible figures with the Perry's ACW range as some of their stuff will work nicely for the period and yo could get the artillery pieces and other equipment from them.

Bellow is the preliminary list. Feel free to comment and advise what figures should I add or slash. Anyone interested in contributing with either money or services please send PM.

The Paraguayan War, 1864-1870

Paraguay
   High Command (Lopez, Marcó and ADC)
   Mounted Generals (Barrios, Díaz and Estigarribia)
   Mounted coronels
   Line Infantry, marching/advancing
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry, marching/advancing w/ spears
   Line Infantry Command marching/advancing (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Infantry Command standing (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Ragged Line Infantry, skirmishing (w/ assorted weapons, loin cloth and poncho)
   Ragged Line Infantry, advancing
   Ragged Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry w/ shako and lance
   Line Cavalry w/ hats and lance
   Line Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Aca-Vera Dragoon Rgt.
   Aca-Vera Dragoon Rgt. Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Aca-Caraya Guard Rgt.
   Aca-Caraya Guard Rgt. Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Militia, advancing (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Militia, skirmishing (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Militia, advancing w/ pikes and spears
   Militia Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Militia/Irregular Cavalry
   Militia Lancers
   Militia Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Artillery Crew (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Ragged Artillery Crew (w/ chiripá , loin cloth)

Argentina
   High Command (Mitre, Paunero, Emilio Mitre)
   Mounted coronels
   Line Infantry, marching (regulation dress)
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Infantry advancing (tropical uniform)
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Legion Militar advancing
   Legion Militar Command
   Line Cavalry
   Line Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Guardia Nacional, advancing
   Guardia Nacional, skirmishing
   Guardia Nacional Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Guardia Nacional Cavalry
   Guardia Nacional Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Guardia Nacional Lancers
   Guardia Nacional Lancers Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Line Artillery Crew

Brazil
   High Command (Osório, Caxias, Count d’Eu)
   Mounted Generals (Porto Alegre, Polidoro and Barreto)
   Mounted Colonels
   Fusiliers, marching (w/ kepi)
   Fusiliers, marching (w/ barracks cap)
   Fusiliers, skirmishing (w/ kepi)
   Fusiliers, skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Fusiliers Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Caçadores, advancing (w/ kepi)
   Caçadores, advancing (w/ barracks cap)
   Caçadores skirmishing (w/ kepi)
   Caçadores skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Caçadores Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ hat)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ havelock)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ barracks cap)
   VdP Command, marching (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ havelock)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ hat)
   Voluntarios da Pátria Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry w/ carbines
   Dismounted Cavalry skirmishing
   Line Cavalry w/ lance
   Line Cavalry, assorted headdress, w/ lance
   Line Cavalry Command
   National Guard, advancing
   National Guard, skirmishing
   National Guard Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   National Guard Cavalry
   National Guard Lancers (Gauchos)
   National Guard Command (Gauchos)
   Line Artillery Crew
   Horse Artillery Crew
   Artillery Crew w/ ponchos

Uruguay
   High Command (Flores, Palleja, Castro)
   Libertad Battalion
   Libertad Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   Florida Battalion
   Florida Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   24 de Abril Battalion
   24 de Abril Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry
   Line Cavalry Command
   Artillery Crew
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Maichus on January 14, 2013, 02:29:37 PM: Good luck! ;)

To which total of miniatures (infantry/cavalry) does your list amount? Looks like a couple of hundreds. :o
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 14, 2013, 02:35:50 PM: Yes, its a big list but I think it will be trimmed a bit shorter. I'm hopping to have some feedback to see if there are redundant figures or additional requests. I hope to have it all done in 6 years. If I last that long... :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: cdr on January 14, 2013, 03:38:38 PM: congratulations ! and luck

Carl
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 14, 2013, 06:18:44 PM: Good luck amigo. Having failed to follow through myself, I'm happy to see someone pick up the torch.

If you will permit me to make a few comments. I'd focus on core elements first. It's a very niche interest in what is a niche market overall. Look waht happened to the Austro-Prussian 1866 range that took this approach.

Fabulous list but I'm inclined to think that it's depth would be unlikely to be supported by volume of trade. I'd be inlined to look at smaller chunks.

For Paraguay, really you want some variety from uniformed to semi naked. I'd be inclined to go for skirmishing or firing line figures as for most of the bigger and wel known battles they were on the defensive. Infantry skirmishing in uniform; infantry skirmishing in chiripas, in various states of undress. Cavalry, obviously, and then artillery.

Brazil I'd be inclined to limit to two types of infantry. Regulars and Voluntários da Pátria. The latter only really being noticeable by dint of the pleats and blousing on the tunics. Give them head variants. Kepi, hat and sidecap. I'd recommend an advancing pose.

Cavalry? Well given the bulk of the cavalry were from the south, I'd go for the gaucho style. That means that they will also work for Argentinos. As much of the figure will be covered with a poncho it alos means that given suitable head variants the figures will work for both earlier and later conflicts.

Whilst it would be lovely to see Zouaves da Bahia, Uruguaios tricked out like icecream salesmen etc, I suspect that many people will realise that some items can be adopted from other ranges, like ACW and FPW. Argentine infantry in tropical uniforms is an easy steal from plastic Perry ACW types for instance.

Good luck. As I said it's a very small market so don't sink to much cash but at least you will have one guaranteed customer if the plans come to fruition. :)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: traveller on January 14, 2013, 07:14:44 PM: I will buy any irregulars that can be generally used for South American conflicts. I am afraid I am not so interested in the conflict as such, unless Hicks performs his usual miracles ;)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on January 15, 2013, 08:33:12 AM: I will over time buy an army`s worth of each but would like you to start with Brazil
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 15, 2013, 03:05:50 PM: Thanks for the interest, support and feedback my friends. I'll also be involved in the sculpting as Paul Hicks is overwhelmed with commissions and will only have time for the odd figure. I'm thinking about reducing the list and make separate heads available for conversion. That way you can use ACW figures to beef up the armies. There's a wonderful example in Black Powder of a Brazilian infantryman converted from a Perry ACW and French Napo figure.

I'll probably start with Paraguayans and Brazilians and see how it goes. Next Argentinians and Uruguayans in campaign dress (no parade dress as they were only used at Yatay).

I'll keep you all informed of developments and updates here or on my blog.

@Carlos

Thanks for the heads up. Do you think there should be packs of Brazilian Caçadores? Was the uniform different from the line? I think they used a different weapon (rifle or carbine) from the rest. More info and feedback will be enormously appreciated.

Cheers,

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on January 15, 2013, 09:14:00 PM: Quote from: Kingscarbine on January 15, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
@Carlos

Thanks for the heads up. Do you think there should be packs of Brazilian Caçadores? Was the uniform different from the line? I think they used a different weapon (rifle or carbine) from the rest. More info and feedback will be enormously appreciated.

In practical terms not a lot. Certain uniform distinctions but a paint job would cover it all in campaign dress. I believe some battalions were issued with different firearms but that is true of the army as a whole. Illustrations do tend to show more examples of the sidecap but there would likely be a mix amongst trrops on campaign. The idea of head variants would be a good one. There was a preference for the hat in the 2nd Army Corps. Kepis sloch hats, a few straw and civilian broad brimmed hats and the side cap.

Barroso is the best guide for uniforms. Every other illustration you see, save the occasional photo has almost invariably been lifted from his works,including the Foundry book.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: phalanx on January 19, 2013, 10:20:29 PM: Hello, I introduce myself , I am an argentinian veteran wargamer, more than 20 years, and the Triple Alliance war is the first in my wishlist. Me and some friends tried to do the armies converting some frenchs for the franco prussian war, acw, crimean frenchs( for uruguayan batallions) even indian mutineers for paraguayan.
Nuno I will offer you all the information about uniforms that I have. I agree with Carlos with the posses and to reduce the list, for example the Lopez Guard ,(Aca Caraya), never use the full uniform in battle.
Eventually I can offer you a little contribution to the project.

Regards

Horacio
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on January 19, 2013, 11:38:23 PM: Hola Horacio,

Thanks for the support. I'll certainly count on you to deliver all the necessary information for sculpting the Argentinians. I'm also interested in the civil wars of the 1830's - 1850's... But that's a personal project. ::)

I'm already reducing the list. Some packs will have soldiers with assorted headgear (kepis and barrack caps or hats and barrack caps) and others with just one (infantry with havelock); Command packs will be either advancing/marching or standing; and I'm considering having packs of heads for converting units and personalise officers, etc. More news soon(ish).

"Atiradores, avante!"

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: phalanx on January 20, 2013, 03:32:58 AM: Hola Nuno

I have a lot of information of the Argentinian units (including the national guard and provincial guards) also of the paraguayan and Brazilian armies. It was the South America biggest war.
I am very interested in our civil war from 1820/1852 too, but these is another subject. When you wil know more about the uniforms and armies of these period do not hesitate to contact me.

I hope to hearing about the triple alliance war soonest.

Saludos, regards

Horacio
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 11, 2013, 01:11:23 PM: Hi,

I'm going ahead with the range. My plan is to start simply, with basic troops from each army (that includes infantry, cavalry and artillery), giving customers enough to make a playable force from each side. I decided to build the range chronologically. This might be a good way to work as armies change in some way throughout the war.

This is what I propose to do in the first stage:

PARAGUAY
Mounted Generals
Mounted Colonels
Line Infantry marching/advancing (shouldered musket)
Line Infantry command marching /advancing (can get away with using these for the Militia)
Militia marching /advancing (shouldered musket)
Line Cavalry w/shako and lance
Line Cavalry command
Artillery crews

ARGENTINA
Mounted Generals
Mounted Colonels
Line Infantry marching regulation dress
Line Infantry command marching
Line Infantry marching tropical dress
Line Cavalry
Line Cavalry command
Artillery crews

BRAZIL
Mounted Generals
Mounted Colonels
Line Infantry marching kepi
Line Infantry command
Voluntarios da Patria marching hat
Voluntarios da Patria Command
National Guard Cavalry (Gauchos)
National Guard command
Line Cavalry
Line Cavalry command
Artillery crews

URUGUAY
Florida Battalion
Florida command

Anyone interested in contributing either financially or with info can PM me or email. Those who contribute financially will be considered "The Founding Fathers" and will have special status (first to get figures, discounts and special figures). I'm going to set up a Kingscarbine Miniatures/Paraguayan War Forum on Facebook to ease communication and feedback.

Regards,

Nuno
"Kingscarbine Miniatures" :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 11, 2013, 03:59:59 PM: Kingscarbine Miniatures blog soon (WIP)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on February 11, 2013, 07:48:07 PM: Cool but I don't do Face book.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: phalanx on February 11, 2013, 10:55:14 PM: Congratulations Nuno, I haven´t facebook page but I´ll try to enter trought my sister page. I saw the list of figures and I didn´t see figures in skirmishing poses, don´t forget that most of the battles were attack and defensive battles and/or assault to redoubts for the allies.

don´t hesitate to contact me for information about uniforms, weapons and battles.

Regards
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 11, 2013, 11:34:56 PM: Hi,

Don't worry Phalanx. If things go well there will be plenty of skirmish packs, and other goodies, in the future. First march attack or/and advancing at trail packs. You can start helping by sending Argentinian army info. Anything helps.

Carlos, what alternative do you suggest? Google or Yahoo groups?

Regards,

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on February 12, 2013, 04:18:36 AM: Blog sites seem to work for quite a number of the smaller manufacturers.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 12, 2013, 08:23:08 AM: I can use the Paintshop or the Guerra Brasílica blogs... ::)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 12, 2013, 09:50:05 AM: I've added a page to my blog. All Kingscarbine Miniatures news and feedback (fingers crossed) will be posted here: http://kingscarbinepaintshop.blogspot.pt/p/kingscarbine-miniatures.html
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 12, 2013, 11:16:11 AM: These Argentinian chaps have a nice collection of converted minis: http://juegosdehistoria.blogspot.pt/search/label/Guerra%20del%20Paraguay
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: seldon on February 13, 2013, 10:43:01 PM: Well. that is the group that Phalanx belongs to :)
The blog owner is also currently converting minis to do some wargaming on the failed british adventure to Buenos Aires 1806-107

http://juegosdehistoria.blogspot.pt/search/label/Invasiones%20inglesas

cheers
Francisco
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: phalanx on February 14, 2013, 02:49:23 AM: Hi Seldom, como estas?

Today I bring Nuno some plates of the Argentinian Army and I will send him more information of the Argentinian and the Paraguayan also.

I hope he can start with the range as soon as possible.

saludos

Horacio
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 11, 2013, 12:04:05 PM: I have some good news and a teaser for Salute: http://kingscarbinepaintshop.blogspot.pt/
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on April 11, 2013, 12:09:25 PM: Wow or, if you prefer, uau! :-* :-* :-*

Those look wonderful. Really looking forward to this range my friend.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on April 11, 2013, 12:32:51 PM: Just wet my pants wow!, love the officer waving sword - so many uses..do you have a pic of any line troops you can tease us with..?

Thanks Nuno

Regards,

Geoff
Moderator Carlist Wars group
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 11, 2013, 01:00:39 PM: Thanks for the feedback. I'll post more photos as soon as there are more figures. Lots of stuff will be released along the year.

Cheers
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Dave Knight on April 11, 2013, 05:08:13 PM: Lookin good :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: AlyMorrison on April 11, 2013, 08:55:44 PM: Hi Nuno
Fine work by Steve and a great start to the range

Are you still coming to Salute?

All the best. Aly :)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 11, 2013, 10:47:12 PM: Hi Aly,

If all goes well it will be a great debut. Looking forward for a chat.

Cheers,

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Diceplague on April 22, 2013, 12:08:26 AM: Quote from: Kingscarbine on January 14, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Hi guys,

I've decide to invest some of my piggy bank money and start a company. I'll start with a couple of 28mm packs for the WotTA/PW. There's no date and I'm still considering turnning to Kickstarter for some investment or request you generous contributions to help pay the the sculptors and production moulds. Anyone contributing will receive they investment in figures and a special figure of D. Pedro II, Emperor of Brazil, mounted and in campaign dress. I have Ebob a Paul Hicks waiting for the list(s) to start sculpting and send dollies to Griffin Moulds. My plan is to start sloew and see how it goes. I hope to finish the range in a couple of years or more depending on the sales. My aim is to make compatible figures with the Perry's ACW range as some of their stuff will work nicely for the period and yo could get the artillery pieces and other equipment from them.

Bellow is the preliminary list. Feel free to comment and advise what figures should I add or slash. Anyone interested in contributing with either money or services please send PM.

The Paraguayan War, 1864-1870

Paraguay
   High Command (Lopez, Marcó and ADC)
   Mounted Generals (Barrios, Díaz and Estigarribia)
   Mounted coronels
   Line Infantry, marching/advancing
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry, marching/advancing w/ spears
   Line Infantry Command marching/advancing (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Infantry Command standing (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Ragged Line Infantry, skirmishing (w/ assorted weapons, loin cloth and poncho)
   Ragged Line Infantry, advancing
   Ragged Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry w/ shako and lance
   Line Cavalry w/ hats and lance
   Line Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Aca-Vera Dragoon Rgt.
   Aca-Vera Dragoon Rgt. Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Aca-Caraya Guard Rgt.
   Aca-Caraya Guard Rgt. Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Militia, advancing (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Militia, skirmishing (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Militia, advancing w/ pikes and spears
   Militia Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Militia/Irregular Cavalry
   Militia Lancers
   Militia Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Artillery Crew (w/ chiripá and regulation dress)
   Ragged Artillery Crew (w/ chiripá , loin cloth)

Argentina
   High Command (Mitre, Paunero, Emilio Mitre)
   Mounted coronels
   Line Infantry, marching (regulation dress)
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Infantry advancing (tropical uniform)
   Line Infantry, skirmishing
   Line Infantry Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Legion Militar advancing
   Legion Militar Command
   Line Cavalry
   Line Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Guardia Nacional, advancing
   Guardia Nacional, skirmishing
   Guardia Nacional Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Guardia Nacional Cavalry
   Guardia Nacional Cavalry Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Guardia Nacional Lancers
   Guardia Nacional Lancers Command (officers, standard bearer, buggler)
   Line Artillery Crew

Brazil
   High Command (Osório, Caxias, Count d’Eu)
   Mounted Generals (Porto Alegre, Polidoro and Barreto)
   Mounted Colonels
   Fusiliers, marching (w/ kepi)
   Fusiliers, marching (w/ barracks cap)
   Fusiliers, skirmishing (w/ kepi)
   Fusiliers, skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Fusiliers Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Caçadores, advancing (w/ kepi)
   Caçadores, advancing (w/ barracks cap)
   Caçadores skirmishing (w/ kepi)
   Caçadores skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Caçadores Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ hat)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ havelock)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, marching (w/ barracks cap)
   VdP Command, marching (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ havelock)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ barracks cap)
   Voluntarios da Pátria, skirmishing (w/ hat)
   Voluntarios da Pátria Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry w/ carbines
   Dismounted Cavalry skirmishing
   Line Cavalry w/ lance
   Line Cavalry, assorted headdress, w/ lance
   Line Cavalry Command
   National Guard, advancing
   National Guard, skirmishing
   National Guard Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)
   National Guard Cavalry
   National Guard Lancers (Gauchos)
   National Guard Command (Gauchos)
   Line Artillery Crew
   Horse Artillery Crew
   Artillery Crew w/ ponchos

Uruguay
   High Command (Flores, Palleja, Castro)
   Libertad Battalion
   Libertad Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   Florida Battalion
   Florida Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   24 de Abril Battalion
   24 de Abril Command (2 officers, 1 NCO, 1 standard bearer, 2 musicians)
   Line Cavalry
   Line Cavalry Command
   Artillery Crew

T A K E M Y M O N E Y ! ! !
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 22, 2013, 10:58:11 AM: Quote
T A K E M Y M O N E Y ! ! !

I will, I will :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on April 22, 2013, 12:21:40 PM: When will the first few packs be ready..?

Kind regards,

Geoff
Moderator Carlist Wars Yahoo group
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 22, 2013, 01:23:31 PM: The manikins, weapons and equipment are finished and now things will go much faster. Steve will be working on the Paraguayan infantry this week and I'll post a couple of photos of the WIP.

Here are the cast Paraguayan officers to keep you satisfied for a while... Or maybe more excited. :)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on April 24, 2013, 12:42:39 PM: Dear Nuno,

How can one go about getting a pack of these..?

Kind regards,

Geoff

sacredcarp@hotmail.com
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Diceplague on April 24, 2013, 10:24:54 PM: Will you ship worldwide? I can´t wait to play the Humaitá Fortress Battle with the Luís Alves de Lima e Silva also known as Duque de Caxias at command. The Brazillian army was mostly composed of afro descendents I hope you took that in consideration as you guys create their troops.

Looking forward mate, this Project is really "fixe" as you say in the "lands beyond the sea" :)
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on April 24, 2013, 10:53:21 PM: Better to play at being the Duque de Caxias than playing in Duque de Caxias I say. ;) Then again, some say the Baixada Fluminense is lovely this time of year lol
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 25, 2013, 11:05:47 AM: Quote from: Shipka on April 24, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
Dear Nuno,

How can one go about getting a pack of these..?

Kind regards,

Geoff

sacredcarp@hotmail.com

Hi Geoff,

I hope in a month or so. Still working on the other command figures and Line infantry.

Cheers

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 25, 2013, 11:13:05 AM: Quote from: Diceplague on April 24, 2013, 10:24:54 PM
Will you ship worldwide?

I'll ship to Mars if you pay the postage. lol Seriously, I hope this range sells well in North and South America. I'm counting on you to recruit some gamers and/or collectors.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on April 25, 2013, 01:29:59 PM: Can`t wait Nuno,

Do you know how your figs will scale up to those few that Obscure Miniature released sometime ago..?

Which Infantry will be first to appear..?

Cheers,

Geoff
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 26, 2013, 06:49:24 PM: Can't say Geoff but the figures are compatible with Perry Mins. The first packs will be Paraguayan Infantry followed by cavalry. You'll have to be patient, I have a long list to cover.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Lowtardog on April 26, 2013, 07:27:33 PM: I know nothing about it but having done Maximillian war a good few years ago they ahve that nice vibe :-*
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on April 27, 2013, 07:06:57 AM: After you have commenced the Paraguayans, can you make the next Brazilians, please!
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on April 27, 2013, 09:34:52 AM: That's the plan Geoff. Hope to have enough packs for building two small armies by the end of the year or earlier.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on May 06, 2013, 09:47:02 AM: As I want to kick off with trying to undertake The Battle Of Ytororo I will take six battalions worth of Paraguayans along with six packs of command and then four regiments of Cavalry, just have to sort scale of unit out !
Title: Kingscarbine Miniatures
Post by: Kingscarbine on May 22, 2013, 06:53:54 PM: Hi,

Masters are ready for production. Will send them to the caster this week and
hope to have the first packs available soon.

Empress Miniatures is going to handle worldwide sales and distribution and I'll
manage the ranges and production.

First packs:

PARAGUAY
PAR1.Line Infantry marching/advancing (shouldered musket)
PAR2.Militia marching/advancing (shouldered musket)
PAR3.Line/Militia command (2 officers, 2 std. bearers, bugler, drummer)

Cheers,

Nuno
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on May 22, 2013, 09:49:57 PM: Are there any pics of the greens at all Nuno

Cheers,

Geoff
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on May 22, 2013, 10:56:31 PM: Yes I have but I prefer to post the first pics after they are cast.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Diceplague on May 23, 2013, 01:05:47 AM: Glad I have some pills to calm my anxiety ;D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on May 23, 2013, 03:56:08 PM: Quote from: Diceplague on May 23, 2013, 01:05:47 AM
Glad I have some pills to calm my anxiety ;D

Now run for the oxygen bottle :D
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Lowtardog on May 23, 2013, 04:31:53 PM: Ooh they are a bit nice...get theee behind me :-*
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: carlos marighela on May 23, 2013, 08:51:09 PM: Nice! Good variety to the set and the chiripás are well sculpted. My one criticism, if you will indulge me, is that the legs, particularly the ankles, seem a bit thick. Cankles is the somewhat cruel description applied to women with this feature. Paraguyans can be quite stocky but the legs do look a bit odd. Maybe a trick of the light/ photography. If not something the sculptor might work on with future releases.
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Shipka on May 23, 2013, 09:42:28 PM: Need more Oxygen, gimme gimme asap..love the poses
Title: Re: War of the Triple Alliance/ Guerra do Paraguai.
Post by: Kingscarbine on May 23, 2013, 10:21:01 PM: Quote from: carlos marighela on May 23, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
Nice! Good variety to the set and the chiripás are well sculpted. My one criticism, if you will indulge me, is that the legs, particularly the ankles, seem a bit thick. Cankles is the somewhat cruel description applied to women with this feature. Paraguyans can be quite stocky but the legs do look a bit odd. Maybe a trick of the light/ photography. If not something the sculptor might work on with future releases.

You can always use a file to slim the cankles :D Constructive criticism is always welcome. I'll talk to the sculptor to get it right next time.
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Post by: Kingscarbine on May 24, 2013, 03:11:22 PM: I had a good look at the figures and the ankles look thicker on the photos. The figures are really quite slim.
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Post by: HerbyF on May 29, 2013, 09:31:10 AM: Looks like I am going to have to spend some more money.
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Post by: Shipka on May 30, 2013, 08:53:40 AM: Any idea Nuno as to time scale for the release..?
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Post by: swiftnick on May 30, 2013, 08:54:57 AM: Good work!!
Will buy deep as soon as they are available.
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Post by: Kingscarbine on May 30, 2013, 10:59:12 AM: Hi folks,

First packs at the mould maker. Hope to have news in a few days. Work will start on the next batch ASAP. Brazilian Line Infantry is next followed by Dismounted Paraguayan Cavalry.

Thanks for the support. I hope to have enough packs at the end of the year to field both armies.

Cheers,

Nuno
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Post by: Shipka on June 07, 2013, 08:32:53 AM: Sorry to be impatient but any news of the castings!...lol, need them badly gotta get my fix of metal!
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Post by: Kingscarbine on July 11, 2013, 04:02:07 PM: Hi,

Just a heads up. First batch of Paraguayans arrived from Griffin Moulds and will be available through Empress Miniatures in a couple of weeks.

Brazilian infantry manikins are ready and bound to Griffin for casting. Hope to have the greens ready for production in a few weeks.

Cheers,

Nuno
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Post by: carlos marighela on July 11, 2013, 10:35:42 PM: Great news!
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Post by: swiftnick on July 12, 2013, 06:10:05 PM: Good, will start selling off lots of the nations treasures ( sorry junk ) so I can buy loads.
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Post by: Kingscarbine on July 19, 2013, 12:03:45 PM: Hi,

Once the e-commerce shop is up and running I'll also sell the range directly. Empress will sell and take care of international distribution.

More news soon.

Nuno
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Post by: Keith on July 19, 2013, 01:32:58 PM: Really looking forward to seeing these 'in hand'!
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Post by: Kingscarbine on July 24, 2013, 02:19:32 PM: Hi all,

First packs are available on the Paraguayan War Range page. Prices already include shipping costs so you just have to chose your location.

http://kingscarbinepaintshop.blogspot.co.uk/p/paraguayan-war-range.html

I hope to have a better e-commerce site in the future.

Best regards,

Nuno
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Post by: Kingscarbine on July 26, 2013, 04:35:52 PM: Hi,

Thanks for the support. I just want to say that I'll be on holidays until August 16. All orders received after today will be mailed after that date.

Cheers,

Nuno
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Post by: Kingscarbine on August 06, 2013, 01:49:23 PM: Some painted Paraguayans on Tarleton's Quarter blog http://gilesallison.blogspot.pt/
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Post by: Kingscarbine on August 28, 2013, 04:02:42 PM: Hi,

Next in line are some Brazilian infantry packs:

Line Infantry marching/running, kepi (shouldered musket)
Light Infantry advancing/skirmishing, kepi (Minié rifle/sabre bayonet)
Line Infantry command

I've been wondering if it's a good idea to provide separate heads sets for converting figures. Instead of releasing packs with the same figures with just different headgear we could make the most used uniforms types with a particular headgear (Regulars w/ kepis and caps; Volunteers w/ pleated tunics, hats; Infantry w/ havelocks; etc) to reduce costs. What do you think?

After these are released I plan to launch a crowdfunding project to release the rest of the range. How many of you would back the range?

Cheers,

Nuno
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Post by: Lowtardog on August 28, 2013, 06:07:12 PM: Quote from: Kingscarbine on August 28, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
Hi,

Next in line are some Brazilian infantry packs:

Line Infantry marching/running, kepi (shouldered musket)
Light Infantry advancing/skirmishing, kepi (Minié rifle/sabre bayonet)
Line Infantry command

I've been wondering if it's a good idea to provide separate heads sets for converting figures. Instead of releasing packs with the same figures with just different headgear we could make the most used uniforms types with a particular headgear (Regulars w/ kepis and caps; Volunteers w/ pleated tunics, hats; Infantry w/ havelocks; etc) to reduce costs. What do you think?

After these are released I plan to launch a crowdfunding project to release the rest of the range. How many of you would back the range?

Cheers,

Nuno

It would make sense to me, keep your new packs as command and characters etc. It sounds interesting to me, a little niche though I like that, you need to pimp it up to get lots of backers :D
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Post by: Kingscarbine on August 29, 2013, 12:04:10 AM: Very niche but I hope to bring many souls to the dark side once they see the photos of painted battalions massing on the table. I'll have to revise the list to see if I can fit more command and character packs.
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Post by: Kingscarbine on September 04, 2013, 11:56:06 AM: Figures are available again. I've updated prices and shipping and hope to have lots of orders soon. The more you buy the more I can invest on new packs, so get those wallets, cheques and credit cards ready. :D

http://kingscarbinepaintshop.blogspot.co.uk/p/paraguayan-war-range.html

Heads up!

First ten costumers to buy at least three packs will receive a pair of Brazilian officers figures from the upcoming command pack.
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Post by: Kingscarbine on September 07, 2013, 07:14:19 PM: Now also available on Empress site: http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart89.htm :)
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Post by: Kingscarbine on September 10, 2013, 02:20:18 PM: Hi,

There's no release date for the Brazilian infantry yet as I decided to have the Line Infantry (Fuzileiros) done first. So, the next packs will be:

Brazil
-Fusiliers, marching (w/ kepi; barracks cap)
-Fusiliers, skirmishing (w/ kepi; barracks cap)
-Fusiliers Command (2 officers, 2 standard bearers, 2 musicians)

Starting now I'll accept pre-orders for the miniatures as a form of crowdfunding. The miniatures for both armies will be sculpted based on stretch goals and on the amount of pre-orders raised. Basically for every three packs I'll need to raise £2000 for sculpting and production. As soon as that goal is reached the figures will enter the production line. For every £6000 achieved a mounted command pack will be released (free for pre-orders). If you change your mind you can request a refund. All pre-orders are post free.