Unfortunately, with the LPL starting already in February I see little hope of being able to make it with the new three entry rule.
Actually it will start in March. So you still have almost 6 weeks to paint 15 figs and to make the deadline.
I think picture manipulation has little effect on the votes so I think you may just as well disallow them. You get 'cleaner' presentations that way.Granted. But the "charm" of more than a few entries was that comicbook approach. The more that I think about it though, the more it makes sense to show the teams and only the teams. On the other side, entries without scenery .. photographed in front of a sheet of white paper would make the whole competition extremely dull. For my part the combination of well painted miniatures in appropriate scenery makes a lot of wow-effect.
I've been waiting to return to my Mithril stuff for ages, especially an 'Unexpected party' piece I have. Unfortunately, with the LPL starting already in February I see little hope of being able to make it with the new three entry rule. I have limited time and commission commitments. Too bad, but there it is.My god ... you're nuts .. in a positive sense :D I saw the "party" piece just yesterday. Just now I'm overwhelmed both by the multitude of minis .. and the price. I know I couldn't finish that one on time. You have my respect. But you knew that already :) It's good to read though that other people have Mithril Figures too.
On the other side, entries without scenery .. photographed in front of a sheet of white paper would make the whole competition extremely dull. For my part the combination of well painted miniatures in appropriate scenery makes a lot of wow-effect.
Only "photoshoping" and putting of photo-, painting- and other backdrops is forbidden.
But a simple blue gradiant that one prints out and uses as a plain paper backdrop would be ok?
No digital or physical backgrounds as you wouldn't really see the difference.
Only figures, terrain and plain background, please.
First miniature done... now, just ~62 more to go (for my planned entries). o_o
Found it, they are advertised as new in Oct 1988, result, team no 1 ready for painting sir lol
Well you can still buy that range from EM4, if they're the Copplestone ones. Are they really more than 20 years old? ::)
no idea what to do for round ten yet.Yeah - I have more or less allready forfeited those bonus points. Being a retro Citadel nut I don't have any problems with old lead or LOTR. I still have my round 10 entry from last LPL to do, which just happened to be LOTR. =)
Prof: Is it the first 50 who get their first 3 submissions to you, or will you wait till the deadline and then sift among the entrants? I'm okay with either method, just was curious...
What happens if you receive 51 qualifying emails at 12 noon on the "opening" day?
Am I the only would-be participant who has had to "acquire" suitably aged figures? :?nope. The oldest of my collection seems to be the Dennis Mizze's "Slave Auction" Set ... and those are from '95 :'(
And thank heavens for year stamps on the underside of those bases.
The problem I see coming though will be the fact that on the first submission day the entries will probably "bombard" the prof's lpl email address right after starting time. Reading the interested posts here I wonder if the submission will not be full a quarter of an hour after submission start ???
On the other hand, I'm one of those who is interested in entering
Am I the only would-be participant who has had to "acquire" suitably aged figures? :?Anyone buying my orcs are getting certified 80s models. What orcs are that? Oh, why sir - the ones in this thread:
I wondered that too. On the other hand, I'm one of those who is interested in entering, but may not have enough time to paint 15 figures to an acceptable standard (acceptable to me, that is) in the time allowed. Going to have a damn good try though, as I missed the last two LPL :) And the one I came third, or was it second? happened before medals were awarded. :(
If you want to find some nice (old) gems, try the old hobby products range that I think can still be bought from Mega Miniatures. I know I bought all of them, when they were only 1$ each and yesterday checked the release date, which was around 1988 :) I think that the Josef Ochman (?) sculpts will fit very well with you painting style as well. They also have the old Julie Guthrie (old grenadier) sculpts, which are great as well.
The next bunch were some old Ral Partha (Citadel?) 25mm fantasy miniatures that I spent many happy hours playing D&D (blue book) with 30+ years ago. They seem so small next to modern equivalents.
Do the gods conspire against my involvement?
I ordered some figures vital for one of my three required teams and they arrived, the wrong figures. >:( And not the store's fault. The right label on the blister; wrong figures inside.
Have to check my back-up plan. ::)
You've done to well in the LPL years past. You have made enemies in the who now conspire against you.
Nah, not really, I missed the one two years ago as well, but did enter in one where you were also participating...
I'm trying everything I can to make this a hard competition for you. I saw the prof is also helping me by forcing you to use short boring names for your entries ;)
I've always suspected that I am the victim of an organised and persistent vendetta, but my doctors just wouldn't believe me. ;) lol
Any particular reason why 1991 for the old lead round?
cheers
James
Do the gods conspire against my involvement?
I ordered some figures vital for one of my three required teams and they arrived, the wrong figures. >:( And not the store's fault. The right label on the blister; wrong figures inside.
Have to check my back-up plan. ::)
Round 5 - cleaned up and stuck to washers.Oh, I forgot... everything not covered above is cleaned up, stuck on bases and primed. I'm good to go! :)
Was there ever a clarification on whether there would be "new painting" credit for rounds 2 and 3? This may make the difference between my being able to enter or not.
1. All applicants MUST submit THREE newly-painted (previously unpublished) teams in time for the first round.
@Bobbo - what's the Master's in? I'm a college professor, and one of my graduate degrees (the latest one, an MFA in Creative Writing) I took online. It wasn't TOO bad, except for writing the dissertation, which took a LOT of time. Classes, reading, and studying probably took me a lot less than 18 hours a week, but now that I think about it, I did it part-time, over three years (rather than two).
Things are moving smoother than expected, and I'm allready ahead of both last years total production and the LPL5 entries! Eat that, Captain Blood! ;)
... and say -- augh! "Old Metal" is Week 1!
mayhaps something can be worked out?
What is the definition of "Finishing the bases"?
I am gonna have the first 3 and the 10th round ready, is it alright to go ahead and send in the 10th submission? or should I wait till then?
I won't be able to participate this year after participating for three years in a row :( My current job and looking for a new house (and possibly moving) are taking up quite some time. But I'll be checking in to see all the entries :)
I have my first 3 rounds entries all set to go.
Photoing the first was a real pain and didn't work, so had to go back to the standard white-blue gradient in the light box for them.
Hopefully not too late.
Just send my entries... hope it's not too late lol
Ok, so I'm not sitting this one out. May my opponents enjoy the easy points.
The fact that it was a ceiling and bedroom walls is of course neither here nor there lol
Strangest thing - at least for me - is that this "old lead" thing is forcing me to vote for GW figures. I'll be honest, given a choice between GW and non-GW (assuming basically equal painting and presentation) I'll let "not GW" be the deciding factor... can't do that this round in a lot of matchups, and the old GW stuff is so much more interesting than most of today's ubiquitous GW figures!
Strangest thing - at least for me - is that this "old lead" thing is forcing me to vote for GW figures. I'll be honest, given a choice between GW and non-GW (assuming basically equal painting and presentation) I'll let "not GW" be the deciding factor... can't do that this round in a lot of matchups, and the old GW stuff is so much more interesting than most of today's ubiquitous GW figures!
Judging from the entries I think every one likes orcs not just GW figures. :)
??? how do you vote??? :(You pick one of the option in the top bar, press "submit" and that's it.
Don't forget everybody to get on schedule.
Round 4 entries required by 1200 GMT, Saturday!
I wanted to enter this years comp to help me over the dreaded painters block. The standard is so high that Im kinda glad I didnt. I would have been well and truely stuffed.Enh. Someone has to occupy the bottom, may as well be me.
Yes, I have so many unfinished projects I figured this was a great way to get a bit of progress ina lotsome of them.
I wanted to enter this years comp to help me over the dreaded painters block. The standard is so high that Im kinda glad I didnt. I would have been well and truely stuffed.
The LPL tasks me to paint faster - much faster - than I would normally so it's a personal challenge to see if I can turn out five-figure teams at speed, whilst maintaining a reasonable standard. (Not easy, but a lot of fun.)This! It's all about how you cut the corners, so far I've managed ok as I haven't felt ashamed to submit my entries. Painting isn't enjoyable for me though, it's 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration (due to agony and frustration). I swear I have gnomes coming out at night touching up my minis cause I can hate the results when I call it a night and in the morning it doesn't look too bad.
I swear I have gnomes coming out at night touching up my minis cause I can hate the results when I call it a night and in the morning it doesn't look too bad.
got me thirsting after a new scaleBeen too vigorous with the meat pie consumption lately, mate? ;D
Been too vigorous with the meat pie consumption lately, mate?
For me the LPL is not really about reducing the lead pile, but actually increasing it.
question: what's the general consensus on re-entries in the LPL late rounds of stuff from earlier rounds. I realize its allowed, but in general how often is it done?
Is there a pre determined, (unconscious or not) slant that " oh I already saw that" against new stuff. what are some of your opinions on experiences with re-entries?
Thanks!
Personally, I have no bias against "re-runs." It's all down to the painting. Also, as a participant, I realize the effort involved in fielding new teams week after week. I won't hold it against anyone who can't make it. Besides, the very fact that there is a bonus for new negates any voter "punishment" against a participant who fields a seen before.While I agree in theory, I find myself judging reruns rather harshly. I won't vote against it as a default action, but will be wowed more easily by a new, interesting but not as well painted team.
Instead of allowing a rerun, I would try to submit a replacement team of miniatures shown before during the year. I have several replacement teams photographed with miniatures I've painted after the last LPL. They have been shown on the fantasy board here, most of them at least. Thus, no new team bonus and not really new to LAF but at least new to the competition.
question: what's the general consensus on re-entries in the LPL late rounds of stuff from earlier rounds. I realize its allowed, but in general how often is it done?
Is there a pre determined, (unconscious or not) slant that " oh I already saw that" against new stuff. what are some of your opinions on experiences with re-entries?
Thanks!
Prof, could you please use my entry for Round six in Round five? It has nothing to do with Tolkien but it is painted and finished and photographed.
Instead of allowing a rerun, I would try to submit a replacement team of miniatures shown before during the year. I have several replacement teams photographed with miniatures I've painted after the last LPL. They have been shown on the fantasy board here, most of them at least. Thus, no new team bonus and not really new to LAF but at least new to the competition.
I thought ALL entries could not have appeared anywhere before.
Just sent mine in. Tightest deadline for me so far. Photoing so many minis all for 800pixels can be troublesome :?
Still painting mine, only got the last 5 figures on Monday and was ill Tuesday and Wednesday, so will be painting into the early hours if necessary and photo's tomorrow morning. o_o
Still painting mine, only got the last 5 figures on Monday and was ill Tuesday and Wednesday, so will be painting into the early hours if necessary and photo's tomorrow morning. o_o
Still painting mine, only got the last 5 figures on Monday and was ill Tuesday and Wednesday, so will be painting into the early hours if necessary and photo's tomorrow morning. o_o
Still painting mine too, both teams are half done. Aaaahhh, good old LPL drive is starting to kick in :D
What happens when you don't submit a new entry to the round?Your most recent submission continues running until you submit a new one.
I have too much on and will not be able tp make the dead lines for the next two rounds, sorry folks. :'(
Your most recent submission continues running until you submit a new one.
I have too much on and will not be able tp make the dead lines for the next two rounds, sorry folks. :'(
I have too much on and will not be able tp make the dead lines for the next two rounds, sorry folks. :'(
Is it just me or has there been less votes this round then the last 2?
I'm not sure if this round was announced via email- that can make a big difference. Also, I believe that in previous years voting tends to drop off as the LPL continues.
Round 5 has started.
And what a round it is!
To be honest I'm not too keen on the theme of this round. Many great entries, but all in all it's mostly LOTR stuff (my entry included) and it gets a bit much in the long run.
I am guessing that you wanted to see some of Tolkien's other stories being illustrated?Not really... =) I knew it would be a lot of fellowships, uruks and rohirim. I've got nothing against that or the models from GW, I quite like them. It's just that the theme is a little restrictive and leads to rather samey entries which gets a bit repetitive. So mainly feedback to Prof W or whoever will decide on themes in future LPLs. Wide abstracts (like "movie scene" or "maritime") are a lot better than specifics. It would've been cool with "fantasy novels" rather than just "Tolkien". This round have plenty of technical skill, but only one made me go "hey, would you look at that - what a clever entry" and that's Dr Mathias' (once again, ace job!). Not blaming anyone or pointing any fingers, I did a fellowship vs uruk entry myself. =D
To be honest I'm not too keen on the theme of this round. Many great entries, but all in all it's mostly LOTR stuff (my entry included) and it gets a bit much in the long run.
I hate Lord of the Rings, got halfway through the book but got so bored I attempted suicide and could never stay awake during the films.
It's not a bad thing to get out of your comfort zone a bit. This round had lots of great 10 & 15 mm figures I had never seen.
I hate Lord of the Rings, got halfway through the book but got so bored I attempted suicide and could never stay awake during the films.
Now I'm buying Games Workshop figures on ebay!!!!!!!!!!! What have you done Alex, I'm too old for this shit! :'( o_o
;)
So Tolkien never had Prussian Dragoons riding on Wargs?
The guy doesn't seem to have had much of an imagination... :)
I hate Lord of the Rings, got halfway through the book but got so bored I attempted suicide and could never stay awake during the films.
Now I'm buying Games Workshop figures on ebay!!!!!!!!!!! What have you done Alex, I'm too old for this shit! :'( o_o
;)
BTW where are the 10mm figures you and Orctrader used for your entries from? I may need to get some.
Cheers,
Blue
It is really cool to see Cptn Blood, Frank, matakishi take on this theme with their particular styles.
BTW where are the 10mm figures you and Orctrader used for your entries from? I may need to get some.
Actually, that's a lie - I have loved Tolkien since I was old enough to appreciate him, and also loved the Peter Jackson films.
Well, that's nice. I was not sure, since I have not seen you do much fantasy. Anyway, your style translate superwell to LotR.
And with the novels, I prefer The Hobbit to LoTR trilogy.Wholeheartedly agree. It's so bloody hard to get past that first half of the Fellowship.
Some shocking statistics:
33 of 46 entries were on theme. (~72%)
Of those entries, 18 were GW (~55%), 10 were non-GW (~30%) and 5 were 10mm entries from Copplestone (~15%)
So, about 40% of all entries were from the same manufacturer and line. Most of those were current edition LOTR figs, I think 3 or 4 used the old 80s models.
... For the special rounds this time I have opted to ask some (virtual) friends to supply the figures I need.
Blue
Some shocking statistics:
33 of 46 entries were on theme. (~72%)
Of those entries, 18 were GW (~55%), 10 were non-GW (~30%) and 5 were 10mm entries from Copplestone (~15%)
So, about 40% of all entries were from the same manufacturer and line. Most of those were current edition LOTR figs, I think 3 or 4 used the old 80s models.
Amazing, isn't it. :o
Or maybe not - don't know what my point with this is, but I'm fairly certain that most bonus rounds don't see such a concentration of manufacturers.
I'm not grousing over the fact I had to paint GW fantasy stuff (since that's my niche anyways), but I didn't get to see much of the regular variety. Looking forward to the round 10 theme now, it ought to be a bit more varied. I don't mind GW, I don't mind LOTR or fantasy and I don't themes in general. I just don't think this particular theme was open enough to interpretation.
Also, upon reviewing all the entries I came to the conclusion that we're all quite awesome for painting such great entries. Huzzah! =)
Btw, we have to thank to Richard that Tolkien mess, actually I wanted something else for the Round 5 :)
Prof - can you let on as to what you wanted to do for Round 5?
No. I will bring it one day maybe, so I prefer to keep it to myself for the time being :)
You're way ahead of me. I still have to base and flock Round 6!
I am still painting round 6! Ahead of me I see a long night, much coffee and irritated sleepers as I use the hairdryer at some unearthly hour to speed up drying time.......... :-)
Round 6 has started.thanx a lot! Will go looking for my easter-pair at once! lol
Happy Easter to everyone :)
I hope to still be able to produce 3 more new teams...but its going to be touch and go... o_o
Its going to be touch and go... o_o
The issue is I'll be diving in 40degree water which just sucks the energy right out of you even with a dry suit...
The issue is I'll be diving in 40degree water which just sucks the energy right out of you even with a dry suit...
I'm a fresh water guy... ;) I'll be diving in Lake George right in the area where the siege of fort William Henry occurred....you may remember it from Last of the Mohicans. But trust me... That mountain water is COLD this time of year!
Blue
I'm 'recovering' from a hernia repair and, whilst the hernia wasn't painful, the aftermath of the operation has been very unpleasant.
Saints alive. My Round 8 entry just submitted... I get finished a little closer to the deadline every week... this one was too close for comfort!
Since I've been sitting around I've had plenty of time to write and plan so I've completed two rules sets and planned out a number of builds and projects.
All done, picturererered and send, this year is bygones for me nowyeah? Ah shucks, missed by a day perhaps :) Round nine is in an round ten is -almost- ready. Just a few brushstrokes and making the pictures.
Time to re-orientate for the next one (aka, forget everything I noted as to do / improve for next year) lolHuh..okay. What are your projects now, now that LPL6 is over for you?
And for projects after LPL6. I entered to make the lead pile smaller ::) Unfortunately there was so much inspiration that my lead pile just became bigger with miniatures I just had to order lol lol lol
Scenic entry for round 10 .... lolYep. I abandoned that idea too. Did I mention that I have a freshly turned 1 yr old, AND a 7 week old at home... o_o
Did I mention that I have a freshly turned 1 yr old, AND a 7 week old at home... o_o
If I get any painting done, it is through sheer force of will... ;)
Scenic entry for round 10 ....
I'm tempted to just focus on Round 10...but I SOOOO want to have new teams for each round
Round #9 is sent! Thank the powers that there is only one more to go...The babies, and work, and all that real life stuff, plus painting at this rate... o_o >:( ;D
I would send #9 again Tomsche. Better safe than feeling ahem, sorry, like I did that Sunday morning. ::)
No new round 9 from me as have been laid up in hospital with a virus. I hope to be up to it to have a new entry for round 10 though it'll likely be 'more of the same' rather than something that maximises round bonus points.
Drat. My plan for 10 weeks of War of the Roses has failed. :-[
God! This is getting tough, Finished Round 9 Friday night, but my ancient computer is on it's last legs took many attempts to upload and send in entry. As a result of which tomorrow I have to go buy new computer, can't rsk computer not working next Friday, especially as I have been so ambitious, fortunately it is scallable so can cut down on items to paint.
So far I have painted three figures and a small boat.
Still to do.
14 figures (but can cut down to 11)
A large boat (last thing to do, but looks great so determined to get it done
and finally a 2 x 2 scenic seascape and coastline base board.
I have been of today but had to prepare food dinner party tonight, will hopefully get a couple of hours in later tonight. I am also off all day Monday and Friday with a couple of free evenings so will be painting and modelling solidly for all my freetime next week.
i only have 5 more models to paint and a massive shark!
I hate sharks, they scare the hell out of me! >:( >:( >:(
Looking forward to seeing it!
Mike Demana
So. Far. Behind.
But I WILL get it done....I swear...!
Very strange feeling not having to paint to meet next week's deadline. :)
Agreed! Hard to believe we've been at this for almost 1/4 of a year ;)
Round 10 sent in... what a challenging bonus theme! Getting an entire boat in the picture while producing a quality image is quite a task. I made several new scenery pieces and after several lackluster photo shoots trying include them, ended up not using them at all.
Can't wait to see the entries for this round!
Round 10 has started. Good luck Gentlemen :)
Hm. A tricky round to judge, but in the wrong way. With all those sprawling dioramas, it is often too hard to see the figures, let alone come to a view about how well they are painted!
But then that's part of the LPL challenge :)
How to fit in 10+ figures plus a large model - and still make the figures large enough to see the detail?
It can certainly be done, although I agree not everybody manages it...