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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 24, 2012, 07:19:27 PM

Title: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 24, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
a new preview for our Post-Apoc range, Contaminated Seas theme:

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/wip/2012/lam_german_bundeswehr_kampftaucher.jpg)

these aren't new, already posted on another thread, it's just to keep the pics together:

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/wip/2012/lam_german_marines.jpg)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Blue in vt on January 24, 2012, 07:30:52 PM
 :o :-* :o Those Frogmen are must haves!!! Any chance I can have them in time for LPL?   lol

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 24, 2012, 07:32:11 PM
They will be released coming February, so I'd say, yes, you can have them in time for Round 10 :)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Raxxus on January 24, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
awsomesauce prof  :)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Earther on January 24, 2012, 07:46:28 PM
Oh wow! Those are superb!!  :o
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Powered Armored Stooge on January 24, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
The fishermen's greatest foes have arrived...
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Keith on January 24, 2012, 08:13:40 PM
Jeepers - those are excellent!  :-*
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Captain Blood on January 24, 2012, 08:41:53 PM
Those are beautiful figures, I must say  :)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: DoctorPete on January 24, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
Wow!  Don't know how I would use them but I want to paint them.  Beautiful work.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: VonMoltke on January 24, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
Nice for a diorama, but not really for gaming where most scenarios are in cities, villages, fields, underground tunnels or woods.
Very limited in use.
But thats only my opinion  ;)

Regards
VonMoltke

Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: commissarmoody on January 24, 2012, 09:22:58 PM
What are the other none frogmen called? Any chance we can get a back view of them looks like the sniper has a LAW or some thing straped to his back
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: von der Tann on January 24, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
Very nice Prof.  :D

Finally some frogmen that look good ... very good actually.

What are the other none frogmen called? Any chance we can get a back view of them looks like the sniper has a LAW or some thing straped to his back

Those are Kampfschwimmer as far as I remember.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: commissarmoody on January 24, 2012, 09:40:05 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on January 24, 2012, 09:42:53 PM
What are the other none frogmen called? Any chance we can get a back view of them looks like the sniper has a LAW or some thing straped to his back

None-frogmen are actually the same frogmen (or Kampfschwimmer) but wearing landing uniform.

No decent photos of the back side, that thing is just an equipment bundle.

Some references:

(http://soldatenglueck.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bw-ks-anlandung.jpg)

(http://soldatenglueck.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bw-ks-beobachtungsposten.jpg)


Nice for a diorama, but not really for gaming where most scenarios are in cities, villages, fields, underground tunnels or woods.
Very limited in use.
But thats only my opinion  ;)

maybe, but that's the advantage of being miniatures manufacturer, doing cool things just because they're cool :) Btw, most of my scenarios are in the cities with connection to rivers or sea.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: gamer Mac on January 24, 2012, 10:12:26 PM
Love the frogmen :-* :-* :-*
Scenarios would write themselfs for these figures.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: ErikB on January 25, 2012, 02:00:38 AM
Frogmen are great for locales near rivers, sewers, dockyards, oil platforms, marshlands, etc.  I really like these minis!  Finally something that are not American SEALs or French.  Cool!
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: VonMoltke on January 25, 2012, 06:45:26 AM

maybe, but that's the advantage of being miniatures manufacturer, doing cool things just because they're cool :) Btw, most of my scenarios are in the cities with connection to rivers or sea.
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Cool they are indeed ;)

Some infos about the "Kampfschwimmers":
They are the best universal special forces in the "Bundeswehr"
For joining the training you have to be minimum rank of NCO
Their training consist for example:

German commando course (Einzelkämpferlehrgang)
Battle diver (Kampftaucher)
Paratroopers (Fallschirmjägerausbildung)
Mountain Rifleman (Gebirgsjägertraining)
Special CQB Training with the GSG 9

Regards
VonMoltke

Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: NurgleHH on January 25, 2012, 06:56:13 AM
Wow, I think a lot of buyers expect the frogman. Good choice
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Commander Vyper on January 25, 2012, 11:05:09 AM
Nice for all sorts of stuff 7TV springs to mind, maybe do some half and semi submerged ones too?
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: inkydave on January 25, 2012, 11:13:51 AM
Lovely figs. Isnt there a maritime round in this years LPL?  ;)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Brummie Thug on January 25, 2012, 03:27:38 PM
Can't wait for both these release's the Frogmen will find some love in some Spy-Fi games
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: uti long smile on January 25, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
Cracking! Saved us a job too :) love the movement and character in these sculpts.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: ErikB on January 25, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
An idea - if the Kampfschwimmer are modeled with their mask up on the forehead, then they would be more flexible, artistically.  With the mask down they could only be in the just-exited-the-water phase as opposed to the rest of the mission.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: gregory privat on January 26, 2012, 10:04:43 PM
OK. Now I want to use my Innsmouth table again...
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Faust23 on January 27, 2012, 06:14:25 AM
Wundebar! Honestly, these are some of the best sculpts I've seen in a long time.  Can't wait to buy them.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: mweaver on January 28, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
Both are very nice sets.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Calimero on January 29, 2012, 01:30:17 AM
Very nice figures indeed!

Special CQB Training with the GSG 9

CQB ?
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: VonMoltke on January 29, 2012, 08:11:06 AM
 ;)
For me, as a german with only school english, it is not so simple to explain all the things correct.
I try not to use the google translater ;)

CQB (Close Quarters Battle or melee battle training)

From Wikipedia:

Close quarters combat (CQC) or close quarters battle (CQB) is a type of fighting in which small units engage the enemy with personal weapons at very short range, potentially to the point of hand-to-hand combat or fighting with hand weapons such as swords or knives. In the typical CQC scenario, the attackers try a very fast, violent takeover of a vehicle or structure controlled by the defenders, who usually have no easy way to withdraw. Because enemies, hostages/civilians, and fellow operators can be closely intermingled, CQC demands a rapid assault and a precise application of lethal force. The operators need great proficiency with their weapons, but also the ability to make split-second decisions in order to avoid or limit friendly casualties. CQC is defined as a short-duration, high-intensity conflict, characterized by sudden violence at close range.

Best regards
Von Moltke
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Captain Blood on January 29, 2012, 08:49:40 AM
;)
For me, as a german with only school english, it is not so simple to explain all the things correct.
I try not to use the google translater ;)


Well you are doing brilliantly! Your school English is a lot better than my school Deutsch!  :)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Blackwolf on January 29, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
They will be released coming February, so I'd say, yes, you can have them in time for Round 10 :)

 That is too tempting Prof. Consider them ordered,no more you hear,no more lol
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: FunkyBrush on January 29, 2012, 09:06:46 AM
Wow, those are realy cool minis
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: carlos marighela on January 29, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Wow :-* :-* :-*  Really nice work! Consider two packs pre-ordered. Actually I'm thinking of using these as Spanish.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Pete_Gill on January 29, 2012, 01:58:38 PM
Brilliant! one thing that is lacking is variation in 28mm Modern figures and these will se use in Spy-Fi and other modern games where entering he playing area via water will be a interesting twist.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: ErikB on January 29, 2012, 04:37:50 PM
Dein Englisch schaut ganz gut aus!

CQB is stuff like clearing buildings, sometimes with hostages involved.  Think SAS rescuing hostages from the Iranian embassy or police SWAT teams.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: NurgleHH on January 29, 2012, 05:57:50 PM
Your school English is a lot better than my school Deutsch!  :)

My good, we didn't knew it. Next time only german with you... lol
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Calimero on January 29, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
CQB (Close Quarters Battle or melee battle training)

Thanks very much for the info 8)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: von der Tann on February 17, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
So ... it's February now ... 17th actually .... any idea on the release date? :D
I am yearning to spend some money ... not that I ever have enough ... still ...

Gimme-Kampftaucher-now!! lol

von der Tann
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 17, 2012, 06:15:48 PM
We shall receive the casts next days, unfortunately the casting took some days longer then we expected. Now we have to pass on February release but it will be definitely March.

If you're going to Tactica, come along to LAM stand, maybe we'll manage to get some packs till then.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: von der Tann on February 17, 2012, 06:18:18 PM
We shall receive the casts next days, unfortunately the casting took some days longer then we expected. Now we have to pass on February release but it will be definitely March.

If you're going to Tactica, come along to LAM stand, maybe we'll manage to get some packs till then.

Thanks for the information Prof.  :'( Sadly, I cannot make it to the Tactica. But March sounds fine with me. Thanks again.

von der Tann
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: artshiraz on February 17, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
Greetings
If you're going to Tactica, come along to LAM stand, maybe we'll manage to get some packs till then.

Oh my goodness .. my wife will ... well she wont kill me :D but I guess I will have to do the laundry and stuff for the better part of the year.
Alex.. include some with my previous order will you?

Jo
(who doesn't know if he should ask the Prof for exile or if he should remain in Hamburg after the Tactica)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 17, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
I will find some place for you in my basement :)

Alex.. include some with my previous order will you?

yes, of course, if everything works.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: fafa on March 04, 2012, 08:32:27 AM
Hi,

I know you're very busy after tactica 2012, but, we're on march...Any news about release?...

Regards,

Fafa
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 04, 2012, 09:46:12 AM
10-14 days till offical release.

PM me if you want them earlier.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: fafa on March 04, 2012, 12:07:43 PM
Thank's Prof,

I'll wait till the official date...Will you produce both packs (troopers and frog men?...)?

Regards,

Fafa
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 04, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
yes, both.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: ZuluPaul on March 06, 2012, 12:02:25 AM
Very Nice.. don't have a use for them but they are great.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: carlos marighela on March 06, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
Suppose if I want them before I disappear into the wilds again I ebetter order now. What's the price for the lot not in Scuba gear Prof?
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: fafa on March 20, 2012, 02:32:01 PM
Ding dong!!! Here we are. 14 days since you said that the troopers could be ready. What's new about them?...(I can wait anymore...lol)
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on March 20, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
I'm working on it and they will be coming definitely this week.
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: fafa on March 20, 2012, 04:39:55 PM
As we say in french:"YES!!!"
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: von der Tann on March 20, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
I'm working on it and they will be coming definitely this week.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am sitting here, fingers twitching, waiting to place an order ....
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: ErikB on December 06, 2018, 06:23:57 PM
Okay, sorry to bring up this thread again after so much time, but I finally ordered the 5 Bundeswehr Marines and 5 Kampfschwimmer.

Does anyone have any images of these minis painted?  I could use a little inspiration, especially for the Kampfschwimmer.  I would like to make them authentic in black wetsuits but get that detail to stand out.  It's surprisingly difficult, somehow.

And for those Marines, my God!  That Flecktarn is a challenge to paint...!

Danke!
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: duhamel on December 07, 2018, 09:01:59 AM
(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/19/52/10/20/00115.jpg)

for help dry brushing
Title: Re: LAM preview - German Marine - Kampftaucher/Battle Diver
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 08, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
And for those Marines, my God!  That Flecktarn is a challenge to paint...!
This might be of use:
http://www.eurekamin.com.au/ideas.php?postid=56 (http://www.eurekamin.com.au/ideas.php?postid=56)