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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 18, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
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The Lead Adventurer's Guide
to scales of various ranges covering the age of antiquity
Biblical era
(Thanks @nervisfr)
Left to right: Newline, Foundry, Newline, Black Tree, Newline, Redoubt, Foundry
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4341/36452653001_7e53031fa8_b.jpg)
15mm Hoplites
(Thanks @peleset)
Left to right: Xyston, Forged in Battle (Etruscan), Xyston, Forged in Battle
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/1034_02_04_16_10_25_02_1.jpg)
Left to right: Forged in Battle, Old Glory, Essex, Forged in Battle
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/1034_02_04_16_10_25_02_0.jpg)
Late Republican Romans
(Thanks @EinarOlafson & Mad Doc Morris)
Left to right: Wargames Factory, Warlord, Foundry, Warlord, Aventine, Warlord, Foundry, Wargames Factory
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_39_15.jpg)
And for convenience, some close-ups.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_07_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_08_1.jpg)
Early Imperial Romans in segmented armour
(Thanks @VonMoltke)
Left to right: Warlord, Gripping Beast, Newline Designs, Foundry (Perry), Foundry (Saleh), Black Tree Design, Aventine, A&A Miniatures, Kellerkind Miniatures, Andrea Miniatures, Prince August
Click to see the original sized picture:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata.jpg)
And for convenience, some close-ups.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata_2.jpg)
Late 2nd to 3rd Century Romans
(Thanks @Mad Doc Morris)
Aventine (left), A&A Miniatures
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1034_01_07_17_10_48_10.JPG)
Late Romans
(Thanks @Lt. Hazel & @Richard in Sachsen)
Left to right: Black Tree, Musketeer (now Footsore), Gripping Beast, Foundry, Westwind
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1034_29_09_17_4_47_17.jpeg)
Left to right: Footsore, Gripping Beast, Crusader, Ebor
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1034_20_05_17_1_44_45.jpg)
Gladiators
(Thanks @Justin Buck)
Left to right: Foundry, Brigade Games, Crusader, Crusader, Brigade Games, Foundry
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_58_2.jpg)
Left to right: Foundry, Crusader, Brigade Games, Foundry, Crusader
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_57_1.jpg)
Left to right: Crusader, Foundry, Brigade Games, Crusader, Foundry
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_56_0.jpg)
IMPORTANT NOTE
If you are after a particular comparison, please ask below. Better still, stage a comparison yourself, take a photo and post it here. We will include it (with credits) in this post.
Many thanks again to all contributors so far!
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Does anybody have a suggestion for ranges to scale with Victrix (interested in EIR in particular)?
Also, in the original post it looks as though Warlord scale well with the Perry Foundry range and not much else - can anybody confirm please?
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Does anybody have a suggestion for ranges to scale with Victrix (interested in EIR in particular)?
I've seen Aventine and sculpts by Steve Saleh used as command figures in units of Victrix models (no photos, sorry). I'd say, though, that's as far as mixing goes since plastic minis have a certain, somewhat delicate style, which is – at least to my eye – noticeably different from any metal range out there.
Also, in the original post it looks as though Warlord scale well with the Perry Foundry range and not much else - can anybody confirm please?
As it stands, yes. Warlord's EIR were scaled to specifically match Foundry's (Perry) range for that period. Gripping Beast's (Colin Patten) Romans were a decent alternative but they seem to have vanished. ???
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That's very useful, thanks. I'm torn between liking the Victrix which have a slightly limited range and the Warlord which run a bit small but have plenty of options. I've been looking this morning and there doesn't actually seem to be much difference cost wise other than Warlord's cavalry boxes being quite a bit pricier.
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I am looking at armoured Cretan archers by Relic miniatures....very nice looking figures but does anyone have an idea of how they compare in size with Victrix or Footsore ? Any advice would be gratefully received
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Anybody got any idea how Foundry's Greek ranges compare with Footsore's Mortal Gods range please?
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Anybody got any idea how Foundry's Greek ranges compare with Footsore's Mortal Gods range please?
Or, for that matter, any way the mods can consolidate some of the other comparison threads into this one? It's a super-helpful idea, especially for those of us newer to the hobby!
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A comparison of the new Aventine early Byzantine and the late Romans shown would be really useful! I'm looking to do an army based around the late 400-mid 500 So wanting to mix them together
Thanks!
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This is a very useful comparison collection, thank you very much!
I've linked your work in my article about miniature sizes and scales: https://alkony.enerla.net/english/the-nexus/miniatures-nexus/miniature-hobby/miniatures-a-question-of-size-and-scale-explaining-miniature-size-and-miniature-scale
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Can anyone advise on scale comparison 28mm Magister Militum romans v Victrix ? Thanks
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Actually I'm doing a unit of kneeling Triarri. the core will be the Agema figures so I'm looking for some more that will add variety but with a compatible scale. I see Gripping Beast metal and Magister Millitum do kneeling Triarri so wondering if anyone has done direct comparisons of their sizes ??
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Just discovered 1st (First) Corps miniatures. They look great.
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/
can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys for scale ?
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Just discovered 1st (First) Corps miniatures. They look great.
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/
can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys for scale ?
I've heard there's a difference between the ranges, but the ones I have are significantly smaller than say Victrix.
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Does anyone have some Victrix, Newline, and Aventine Republican/Polybian Romans they can compare, please?
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Just discovered 1st (First) Corps miniatures. They look great.
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/
can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys for scale ?
A bit late in the day but here are some Republican Roman comparisons:
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/e7cdb751-0d1d-40bc-ab84-e1d0d3eb48e3~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/4d49f332-7d29-4757-abc3-d3075e4d4404~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/7c8c12d1-27a8-4a8e-ac0e-136898916da4~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
The rest are on my blog here: click (https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/apps/blog/show/42484664-republican-roman-comparison)
I use Magister ( Navigator as was) kneeling Triari with my mainly Foundry army and they fit in very nicely. I love the sense of movement in 1st Corps figures. Most of the older metal ranges look short next to Victrix but I find that less jarring than the stylistic difference.
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Can anyone comment on the nice looking Mirliton miniatures in size comparisons w Victrix/Aventine ?
https://www.mirliton.it/historical-25-28mm/ancient?page=4
Thanks.
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Hey!
Does anyone have some side-by-side pictures comparing the warlord phalangites with the one from victrix? I can only find comparisons of their hoplites, but I got a box of the warlord ones and would like to know, if it is possible to add some of the victrix models to them... thanks in advance!
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Hey!
Does anyone have some side-by-side pictures comparing the warlord phalangites with the one from victrix? I can only find comparisons of their hoplites, but I got a box of the warlord ones and would like to know, if it is possible to add some of the victrix models to them... thanks in advance!
I forget which thread I posted a real side by side, but if you click the link here, the first post in my thread about my project has a mix of Warlord and Victrix phalangites and it's hard to distinguish between them. They're basically the same size, unlike the Warlord hoplites which are like a different species :D
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=125506.0
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Warlord Early Imperial Roman Infantry size comparison
(https://i.imgur.com/jpJ5YSE.jpg)
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A bit late in the day but here are some Republican Roman comparisons:
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/e7cdb751-0d1d-40bc-ab84-e1d0d3eb48e3~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/4d49f332-7d29-4757-abc3-d3075e4d4404~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/7c8c12d1-27a8-4a8e-ac0e-136898916da4~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)
The rest are on my blog here: click (https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/apps/blog/show/42484664-republican-roman-comparison)
I use Magister ( Navigator as was) kneeling Triari with my mainly Foundry army and they fit in very nicely. I love the sense of movement in 1st Corps figures. Most of the older metal ranges look short next to Victrix but I find that less jarring than the stylistic difference.
Second image, top left is Gripping Beast.
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Lucid Eye Sea Peoples - I have some - any other Sea Peoples close in size? I was wondering about NS Kadesh as they are done by the same Steve S.
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a useful comparison but dont forget we should allow for difference in height in reality
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Blitzkrieg
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Could anyone do a comparison of all or any combination of Xyston, Museum's Z-range, Blue Moon ancients/medievals, and the ancients and/or the dark ages Forged in Battle, please?
I hear Xyston and Blue Moon are supposed to be quite large but also vary in size between ranges. Unfortunately pictures of Blue Moon in the wild are rare. Forged in Battle also have a little bit of scale creep between the ancients and dark ages ranges but it's not too bad, certainly less noticeable than putting an Essex chap next to one of them.
Edit: I'm incredibly daft and missed the pic in the OP! I blame poor rolling on a perception check. In penance here's a pic of two Forged in Battle Dark Age Sudanese Ghulam spearmen compared to two Museum Arabs. The Museum Arabs are not Z-range but the civilian lad on the end is noticeably bigger than his sword wielding pal. He might be from one of the later Islamic ranges (Renaissance Ottomans?) which also feature very large cavalry.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/303215322025164802/1107784250268332072/image.png)
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Is anyone able to do a size comparison between 15mm forged in battle and Essex mid-republican romans, as I want to mix the two due to FiB selling the figures only in packs of 24. Specifically triari, Principes, Hastati and Velites. Much appreciated
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To answer my own question, yes Essex Romans fit in perfectly with the FiB Republican Romans on the same base.
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try this