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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 18, 2012, 04:19:36 PM

Title: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on February 18, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
The Lead Adventurer's Guide
to scales of various ranges covering the age of antiquity



Biblical era
(Thanks @nervisfr)

Left to right: Newline, Foundry, Newline, Black Tree, Newline, Redoubt, Foundry
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4341/36452653001_7e53031fa8_b.jpg)


15mm Hoplites
(Thanks @peleset)

Left to right: Xyston, Forged in Battle (Etruscan), Xyston, Forged in Battle
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/1034_02_04_16_10_25_02_1.jpg)

Left to right: Forged in Battle, Old Glory, Essex, Forged in Battle
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/1034_02_04_16_10_25_02_0.jpg)


Late Republican Romans
(Thanks @EinarOlafson & Mad Doc Morris)

Left to right: Wargames Factory, Warlord, Foundry, Warlord, Aventine, Warlord, Foundry, Wargames Factory
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_39_15.jpg)

And for convenience, some close-ups.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_07_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_08_1.jpg)


Early Imperial Romans in segmented armour
(Thanks @VonMoltke)

Left to right: Warlord, Gripping Beast, Newline Designs, Foundry (Perry), Foundry (Saleh), Black Tree Design, Aventine, A&A Miniatures, Kellerkind Miniatures, Andrea Miniatures, Prince August
Click to see the original sized picture:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata.jpg)

And for convenience, some close-ups.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/ancient/Imperial_Romans_Segmentata_2.jpg)


Late 2nd to 3rd Century Romans
(Thanks @Mad Doc Morris)

Aventine (left), A&A Miniatures
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1034_01_07_17_10_48_10.JPG)


Late Romans
(Thanks @Lt. Hazel & @Richard in Sachsen)

Left to right: Black Tree, Musketeer (now Footsore), Gripping Beast, Foundry, Westwind
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/1034_29_09_17_4_47_17.jpeg)

Left to right: Footsore, Gripping Beast, Crusader, Ebor
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/1034_20_05_17_1_44_45.jpg)


Gladiators
(Thanks @Justin Buck)

Left to right: Foundry, Brigade Games, Crusader, Crusader, Brigade Games, Foundry
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_58_2.jpg)

Left to right: Foundry, Crusader, Brigade Games, Foundry, Crusader
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_57_1.jpg)

Left to right: Crusader, Foundry, Brigade Games, Crusader, Foundry
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/1034_09_04_15_8_07_56_0.jpg)



IMPORTANT NOTE
If you are after a particular comparison, please ask below. Better still, stage a comparison yourself, take a photo and post it here. We will include it (with credits) in this post.
Many thanks again to all contributors so far!
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: tuco74 on March 15, 2019, 09:09:31 AM
Does anybody have a suggestion for ranges to scale with Victrix (interested in EIR in particular)?

Also, in the original post it looks as though Warlord scale well with the Perry Foundry range and not much else - can anybody confirm please?
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on March 18, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Does anybody have a suggestion for ranges to scale with Victrix (interested in EIR in particular)?

I've seen Aventine and sculpts by Steve Saleh used as command figures in units of Victrix models (no photos, sorry). I'd say, though, that's as far as mixing goes since plastic minis have a certain, somewhat delicate style, which is – at least to my eye – noticeably different from any metal range out there.

Also, in the original post it looks as though Warlord scale well with the Perry Foundry range and not much else - can anybody confirm please?

As it stands, yes. Warlord's EIR were scaled to specifically match Foundry's (Perry) range for that period. Gripping Beast's (Colin Patten) Romans were a decent alternative but they seem to have vanished. ???
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: tuco74 on March 18, 2019, 11:03:59 AM
That's very useful, thanks. I'm torn between liking the Victrix which have a slightly limited range and the Warlord which run a bit small but have plenty of options. I've been looking this morning and there doesn't actually seem to be much difference cost wise other than Warlord's cavalry boxes being quite a bit pricier.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Burnin Coal on December 05, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I am looking at armoured Cretan archers by Relic miniatures....very nice looking figures but does anyone have an idea of how they compare in size with Victrix or Footsore ? Any advice would be gratefully received
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Thargor on June 11, 2020, 06:03:36 PM
Anybody got any idea how Foundry's Greek ranges compare with Footsore's Mortal Gods range please?
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on June 21, 2020, 11:04:12 PM
Anybody got any idea how Foundry's Greek ranges compare with Footsore's Mortal Gods range please?

Or, for that matter, any way the mods can consolidate some of the other comparison threads into this one? It's a super-helpful idea, especially for those of us newer to the hobby!

Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: LazyStudent on August 01, 2020, 07:56:11 AM
A comparison of the new Aventine early Byzantine and the late Romans shown would be really useful! I'm looking to do an army based around the late 400-mid 500 So wanting to mix them together
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Kadmon on August 09, 2020, 12:29:17 AM
This is a very useful comparison collection, thank you very much!
I've linked your work in my article about miniature sizes and scales: https://alkony.enerla.net/english/the-nexus/miniatures-nexus/miniature-hobby/miniatures-a-question-of-size-and-scale-explaining-miniature-size-and-miniature-scale
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: sgzleada71 on November 23, 2020, 11:00:38 PM
Can anyone advise on scale comparison 28mm Magister Militum romans v  Victrix  ?    Thanks
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: sgzleada71 on November 24, 2020, 06:58:35 AM
Actually I'm  doing a  unit of  kneeling Triarri. the core will be  the Agema figures so I'm looking for some more that will add variety but with a compatible scale.   I see Gripping Beast metal and  Magister Millitum do kneeling Triarri so wondering if anyone has done direct comparisons of their sizes ??
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: sgzleada71 on December 17, 2020, 10:50:00 PM
Just discovered 1st (First)  Corps miniatures.    They look great.

  https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/

can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys   for  scale  ?   
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on December 17, 2020, 11:57:21 PM
Just discovered 1st (First)  Corps miniatures.    They look great.

  https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/

can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys   for  scale  ?

I've heard there's a difference between the ranges, but the ones I have are significantly smaller than say Victrix.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: President Buer on January 08, 2021, 12:37:15 PM
Does anyone have some Victrix, Newline, and Aventine Republican/Polybian Romans they can compare, please?
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: AdamPHayes on January 26, 2021, 08:53:09 PM
Just discovered 1st (First)  Corps miniatures.    They look great.

  https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/elephants/page/2/

can anyone advise how the figures compare w say Victrix guys   for  scale  ?

A bit late in the day but here are some Republican Roman comparisons:

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/e7cdb751-0d1d-40bc-ab84-e1d0d3eb48e3~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/4d49f332-7d29-4757-abc3-d3075e4d4404~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/7c8c12d1-27a8-4a8e-ac0e-136898916da4~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

The rest are on my blog here: click (https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/apps/blog/show/42484664-republican-roman-comparison)

I use Magister ( Navigator as was) kneeling Triari with my mainly Foundry army and they fit in very nicely. I love the sense of movement in 1st Corps figures. Most of the older metal ranges look short next to Victrix but I find that less jarring than the stylistic difference.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: sgzleada71 on February 04, 2021, 01:47:55 PM
Can anyone comment on the nice looking Mirliton miniatures in size comparisons w Victrix/Aventine ?

https://www.mirliton.it/historical-25-28mm/ancient?page=4

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Seditiosus on May 11, 2021, 09:00:53 AM
Hey!

Does anyone have some side-by-side pictures comparing the warlord phalangites with the one from victrix? I can only find comparisons of their hoplites, but I got a box of the warlord ones and would like to know, if it is possible to add some of the victrix models to them... thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on May 11, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Hey!

Does anyone have some side-by-side pictures comparing the warlord phalangites with the one from victrix? I can only find comparisons of their hoplites, but I got a box of the warlord ones and would like to know, if it is possible to add some of the victrix models to them... thanks in advance!

I forget which thread I posted a real side by side, but if you click the link here, the first post in my thread about my project has a mix of Warlord and Victrix phalangites and it's hard to distinguish between them. They're basically the same size, unlike the Warlord hoplites which are like a different species  :D

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=125506.0
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: dadlamassu on April 10, 2022, 11:17:42 AM
Warlord Early Imperial Roman Infantry size comparison
(https://i.imgur.com/jpJ5YSE.jpg)
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Atheling on November 13, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
A bit late in the day but here are some Republican Roman comparisons:

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/e7cdb751-0d1d-40bc-ab84-e1d0d3eb48e3~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/4d49f332-7d29-4757-abc3-d3075e4d4404~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

(https://c-cluster-110.uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/7c8c12d1-27a8-4a8e-ac0e-136898916da4~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital)

The rest are on my blog here: click (https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/apps/blog/show/42484664-republican-roman-comparison)

I use Magister ( Navigator as was) kneeling Triari with my mainly Foundry army and they fit in very nicely. I love the sense of movement in 1st Corps figures. Most of the older metal ranges look short next to Victrix but I find that less jarring than the stylistic difference.

Second image, top left is Gripping Beast.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: Orctrader on February 17, 2023, 08:21:15 AM
Lucid Eye Sea Peoples - I have some - any other Sea Peoples close in size?  I was wondering about NS Kadesh as they are done by the same Steve S.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: macsen wledig on February 27, 2023, 07:11:16 PM
a useful comparison but dont forget we should allow for difference in height in reality
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: sgzleada71 on April 23, 2023, 01:19:35 PM
Blitzkrieg
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: President Buer on May 15, 2023, 09:28:05 PM
Could anyone do a comparison of all or any combination of Xyston, Museum's Z-range, Blue Moon ancients/medievals, and the ancients and/or the dark ages Forged in Battle, please?

I hear Xyston and Blue Moon are supposed to be quite large but also vary in size between ranges. Unfortunately pictures of Blue Moon in the wild are rare. Forged in Battle also have a little bit of scale creep between the ancients and dark ages ranges but it's not too bad, certainly less noticeable than putting an Essex chap next to one of them.

Edit: I'm incredibly daft and missed the pic in the OP! I blame poor rolling on a perception check. In penance here's a pic of two Forged in Battle Dark Age Sudanese Ghulam spearmen compared to two Museum Arabs. The Museum Arabs are not Z-range but the civilian lad on the end is noticeably bigger than his sword wielding pal. He might be from one of the later Islamic ranges (Renaissance Ottomans?) which also feature very large cavalry.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/303215322025164802/1107784250268332072/image.png)
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: player on July 21, 2023, 06:48:13 PM
Is anyone able to do a size comparison between 15mm forged in battle and Essex mid-republican romans, as I want to mix the two due to FiB selling the figures only in packs of 24. Specifically triari, Principes, Hastati and Velites. Much appreciated
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: player on September 14, 2023, 12:03:50 PM
To answer my own question, yes Essex Romans fit in perfectly with the FiB Republican Romans on the same base.
Title: Re: Ancients Scale Comparison
Post by: macsen wledig on February 06, 2024, 09:44:05 AM
try this