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Title: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on February 28, 2012, 02:09:28 PM
Just thought I'd pop in as I haven't visited for a while and let you see the first figures for the South American Wars of Liberation.

The first battalion for the Army of the Andes, the 11th regiment

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hhjc9xVxGeI/TrU0aH6i36I/AAAAAAAABDY/fc6PJ9oeImk/s1600/11trh+regiment+2.JPG)

And the Burgos regiment for the Royalists

(http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/BURGOS%20REGIMENT.JPG)

All figures are from the new Parkfield 28mm range covering this period.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Florida Tory on February 29, 2012, 01:09:40 AM
Very well done!

Rick
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mindenbrush on February 29, 2012, 02:29:48 PM
Nice work  :) :)

What rules are you using? I played a Mexican-American game at Historicon last year using modified Regimental F&F so was considering 15mm but those 28's look more enticing  o_o
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: carlos marighela on February 29, 2012, 05:55:45 PM
Wow!, They really do look quite nice. Must have another look at Parkfield.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on March 01, 2012, 02:00:54 PM
And artillery coming soon
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Alejandro on March 02, 2012, 02:51:15 PM
Exelent miniatures I am fromArgentina, General San Martin's land, the American Libertator.
I think that we should have a range for this period, but not...we import all the miniaturas.

Bye.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Lt. Hazel on March 03, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
Nice, I donīt know anything about the liberation wars except that they...yes liberated the south american countries from Spain. Would you be so kind to take some pics of the flags?
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: dm on March 03, 2012, 05:39:49 PM
They are stunning 8)and a period of history sadly lacking on the wargames table
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: aecurtis on March 03, 2012, 05:56:01 PM
Not so lacking, really.  John Fletcher at Grenadier Productions has produced a fine series of reference bookelts--including rules--and a nice range of 18mm figures:

http://www.grenadierproductions.com/

And enthusiasts like Steven Thomas also promote the period; check out Steven's army galleies (mostly Grenadier 18mm, plus some other manufacturers):

http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/liberators/index.htm

[Edit] Forgot to mention--John also maintains an active Yahoo group, which includes a number of very serious researchers on the period:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Liberators1810-1830/

Allen
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on March 01, 2013, 02:50:40 PM
The first of the cavalry are now done, including the Argentinian mounted grenadiers as well as Royalist cavalry wearing braided dolman, which can also be used for San martin's Generals Escort.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q6zLtLBsMl4/UR9WD96D5BI/AAAAAAAABKM/zr89lgkHw68/s640/Granaderos+a+Caballo+3-1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y-BUVSZQhVs/UR9Vnhime6I/AAAAAAAABKA/GqoWxa3_Yy0/s640/Escolta+del+General+3+3-1.jpg)

Together with some artillery for both sides

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/simonlee_photos/ARTILLERY.jpg)
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: seldon on March 05, 2013, 05:53:34 AM
The miniatures are spectacular !

Indeed the period is not so lacking, John Fletcher has done spectacular work in the subject as evidence by the previous posted link.

I had the fortune of meet him when I went to Cold Wars a couple of years ago when the theme was indeed the Latin American Wars of Independence and I ran a game based on the battle of Maipu. My armies are all John's 15s

Here is a link to some info on that game
http://www.greathallgamers.org/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=465

One big advantage of the period is that main historical battles were engagements involving division sized forces by european standards, and so divisional size rules ( such as Lasalle, General de Brigade, NaW, etc ) fit the bill pretty well

cheers
Francisco
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: carlos marighela on March 05, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
So little love for the Cisplatine War, which really is a fascinating and fairly manageable war to game. Well it would be if there were suitable cavalry figures.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: workerBee on March 05, 2013, 02:04:25 PM
 lol  I guess it depends on scale too.

Having moved to 1/600th for all future (non-skirmish) large battle to large scale war games, I am looking to see what is substitutable for specialist uniforms.   8)

I am thinking most early to middle 19th Century troops can be represented by Napoleonics and ACW figures for my interests.

Soldados de Cuera and Presidials so far have kept me in 25+ mm figures for some games.

Gracias,

Glenn

Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Conquistador on March 05, 2013, 10:47:35 PM
Posting from home now - hopefully I will be able to find the figures above and find rules (yes, I know Liberators exist and may go that route.) 

Wars using armies from America, Spain, and Spanish/Latin American parts of the Americas are much of what I will be taking into retirement (and moving to New Mexico) with me.   8)  Even my Gothic Horror (North Mexico before the MAW,) VSF (Spain on Venus,) and Science Fiction (inspired by GZG's LIRA) have Spanish elements.  About the only non-aeronautical themed part of my war games that doesn't have such is my Fantasy.  Spanish Dwarves and Goblins?  That might be a stretch...

Gracias,

Glenn
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on June 07, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
Just a quick update,  the British 'volunteers' have now started arriving, so for those who prefer to use red coats:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tTulfSJib1Y/UaHhO2YOolI/AAAAAAAABNU/H-62sM8hz2w/s1600/Untitled-4.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zK3kLzWTSH8/UaHhRkS0qvI/AAAAAAAABNc/lq2Gf920uBY/s1600/Untitled-3.jpg)
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Arthur on June 08, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
Nice. With the simultaneous release of the Orinoco range, the South American Wars of Liberation could become the next 'in' niche period after the first Carlist War, methinks...
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Christian on June 08, 2013, 01:41:23 AM
What's the likelihood of gaucho units emerging on the horizon? Any murmurings yet?
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on June 08, 2013, 04:26:43 PM
Interesting question, I'm working on some now, some fairly generic and some based on those pictured in e Osprey book, along with Guemes to lead them.

This period is now becoming more available and my intention is to be able to produce most types necessary for the Southern conflicts and expand to cover the Northern theatre.


http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20SOUTH%20AMERICAN%20LIBERATION.html (http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20SOUTH%20AMERICAN%20LIBERATION.html)
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on June 18, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
A quick update on the Gauchos, the first three are nearly done

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Or9TnHwVDHY/UbyRUNxIL9I/AAAAAAAABNw/pTTtgHXnNaY/s640/blogger-image-363169748.jpg)
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Christian on June 23, 2013, 03:45:46 AM
Those are really very good, hermano. Keep it up!
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: HerbyF on June 23, 2013, 04:33:27 AM
Really like those Gauchos. Looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Christian on June 23, 2013, 11:20:26 PM
While it probably won't be a priority, a vignette of gauchos dancing a typical chacarera, yapa , huella etc. would be nice. Or other scenes from el campo... If you get bored or something :) Something like what Eureka did with their French Revolution stuff.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: carlos marighela on June 24, 2013, 08:22:51 AM
Sitting around drinking mate would be more typical. In fact it's an archetypal look. Sculpting the cuia and the associated metal bomba straw should be pretty straightforward.

Gauchos look good. These should be useful for a variety of projects I have on the backburner.

Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Christian on June 24, 2013, 10:00:53 AM
Well, I guess that goes without saying :) I have one for home and one for work...

Here's a better picture, I think:
(http://www.oni.escuelas.edu.ar/olimpi98/Elmate/images/GAUCHOS_MATEANDO.jpg)

Filename says it all, really :)

And this is more what I had pictured from my original comment:
(http://usuarios.multimania.es/airesdz/cultura/chacarera1.jpg)

There is a very strong element of poetry, prose and music in the traditions of the gaucho.

Also, if you were to go for campsite stuff, something like this would be perfect:
(http://www.turistasenviaje.com/wp-content/themes/mimbo2.2/images//asado-con-cuero-vaquillona1.jpg)

But I think more rudimentary as the plancha they have there looks a little advanced...

Maybe this?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE_2Vy_b5KrxA7OldrGjTklpscZWkQN5jBq-3M7iMQ_o36ekWc)
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: carlos marighela on June 24, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Oh God let's not get into the topic of Argentine barbecues. Suffice it to say that the Argentine opinion of how they cook meat is, like the meat itself, overdone. New Zealand produces world class super fine wool but it's not somewhere you'd think of first to get a suit made. Same deal with Argentina, good quality beef, sod all idea as to how to cook it. Head north and the preparation improves immeasurably. I've eaten my fair share of parilla and it has never come close to even the most mean of churrascos. Oddly enough the only time I've eaten a parilla that came close it was in Melbourne not Buenos Aires. If you are ever in town I'd recommend San Telmo in the city.

Mate is something I've never developed a taste for, save for the commercial, iced version. Folk in the south of Brazil are mad for the bloody stuff, I've even seen them consuming at on the beach. I have a cuia but it serves a purely decorative function.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: von Lucky on June 24, 2013, 11:19:31 AM
Hah - you brasileiros are all the same (I should know - I married one ;)). I think both have their merits - much like a sausage roll and meat pie :D
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Mr Mipps on January 27, 2014, 09:35:46 AM
I've just got round to painting the Gauchos and thought I'd share the finished figures.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zdxl4TlFv90/UuU8jBe_wdI/AAAAAAAABqM/1MaoyVxyT-c/s1600/GAUCHOS+1-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ATvCPhNS9nE/UuU8i5z7psI/AAAAAAAABqI/onEf5PS-PSs/s1600/GAUCHOS+1-2.jpg)

I hope you like them.

S
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: von Lucky on January 28, 2014, 01:59:46 AM
Very nice - I like the horses too.
Title: Re: South American Wars
Post by: Lowtardog on January 28, 2014, 09:22:16 AM
A quick update on the Gauchos, the first three are nearly done

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Or9TnHwVDHY/UbyRUNxIL9I/AAAAAAAABNw/pTTtgHXnNaY/s640/blogger-image-363169748.jpg)

They are nice 8)