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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: kalamadea on April 03, 2012, 08:47:08 AM
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Starting on a project that I have been intending to do for quite a few years now. When the WotC Star Wars minis game came out I went crazy, collected full sets, bought a bunch of cheap singles on Ebay etc. There was one seller that had cheap shipping and had strmtroopers for $0.29 a piece, I bought hundreds of them. I was thinking about using them as a 40k army, running games at my FLGS, I picked up the West End version of the game intending to play it, pretty much everything except the actual WotC game (because it is terrible). In the end all I really did with them was a few RPG sessions and some repainted ones for fun. Until now.
Current plan is to get a small force of stormtroopers and rebels and plays done up, a small table made, and start playing Infinity with them. Infinity minis are awesome, and I own a few forces of them too, but Star Wars, man, STAR WARS! Infinity rules should match up to the setting very well for small skirmish battles. I know a lot of people use FUBAR and I certainly have enough to do that, but first I'd like to make a few armies for SW: Infinity, at least some imperials, rebels, clone troopers and seperatists, maybe a Yuuzang Vong army. It's really just a matter of matching the figures to existing statlines.
The Imperials:
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200021-1.jpg)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200022.jpg)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200023.jpg)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200024.jpg)
But next up on the painting block are the rebles
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Nice idea.
So, you will use existing lists for the different factions?
Like, PanOc for Stormtroopers etc, or are you planning to create your own?
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The minis are looking good!
It is always amazing what a repaint and proper base can do to the terrible pre-paints!
Keep us in the loop, I have also just started to do some repaints again(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39946.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=39946.0)), so I am very interested!
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They look waaaaaay better with a repaint/rebase, for sure! :)
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...stormtroopers for $0.29 a piece, I bought hundreds of them.
:o I'm super jealous! (I only managed to get hold of about 30, and no speeder bikes :'()
Looking forward to seeing the rest when they're done!
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Nice idea using the Infinity rules.Great painting too.
Me and my son both have quite a few miniatures from the different set's.
I even have an AT-AT.
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Good start my good man!
I caught that virus too and collected for years until I actually started painting them (mainly lead minis though).
Be inspired: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=25344.0
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Nice,
One teeny niggle re: helmet PJ's:
(http://www.starwarshelmets.com/Feb04/newcompanh2.jpg)
Put the black brow band in otherwise they look a little republican. Easy quick fix that will improve the overal look know end.
My WEG thread's out there somewhere but this is your BBQ so if you want to take a lookie loo just do a search for it.
Nice little force though, cheers for sharing.
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A few of the rebels done
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200001-2.jpg)
and because the game rocked
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200004-2.jpg)
For rules, yes it's a straight "counts-as" fit, although I'm gonna do a little bit of cross faction to get the right stuff. PanO does fit perfectly for stormtroopers, except for the speeder bikes which will be Haqislam Kum Troopers (the monobikes). The Jotums TAG is almost a perfect analog for the AT-ST, Miyamoto special character for the jedi characters stc. Ariadna seems to be a good fit for the rebels, even down to Dog Warrior wookies. The named characters might be a little tough, since even the official special characters in Infinity aren't really all that special compared to an elite trooper, I'm not sure how it'll feel having Han Solo being only very slightly better than a rebel commando. I may give them some extra wounds and double or triple their points cost, gonna have to play it out and see what my buddies think.
@Agis - Yeah, I was been checking out your stuff, they look great!
@Myincubliss - you can still get a lot of the figures, but they're more like $1~$3 now for singles, I'm glad I bought them when I did. You can get the clone BARC speeders for like $8 still, which isn't THAT bad considering. I made sure to pick up speeders bikes when I saw them cheap, got 3 more scout speeder bikes and 8 rebel commando speeder bikes, but I need new bases for them before I can paint them, the ones they come on are incredibly soft. Even heat bending them back into shape, the bases/stems quickly start sagging and warping. I have tons of different 40mm bases, but none really match the look of regular SWM bases and I'm a stickler for that kinda thing. Probably gonna have to break down and order get some litko ones, but their shipping prices are rediculous!
@Commander Vyper - The nice thing about painting this way is they look fine if you put them on the table as they are, and you can easily add details later. There's a number of things I'd like to do, lightening the white armor is one of them, andnow that you pointed out the banding I can't unsee it on the models. They're very much in the "rough, but totally playable" stage
One of the older figs I did for an RPG
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/48380621jedi1.jpg) (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/48380622jedi2.jpg)
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Just waiting on Bosco to come through, (one I never got round to getting and then Agis posted his stuff back up and I got the urge again! ;)) then that's the Commando fireteam. Nice work on those BTW.
The Commander
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I really should be working on more rebel infantry, but I wanted to get all my speederbikes done up. Since I had to do up the bases for a few rebel commandos, I figured might as well get em all done.
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/S4200002-2.jpg)
These will probably take longer than any of the infantry I have left to do, even including some of the repainting that needs to be done to the rebels. For each bike I had to heat bend all the front forks in shape and reinforce them with wire so they wouldn't lose that shape (long thin bendy plastic = no bueno), cut off the old worthless bases that warp too easily. New bases are Proxie Models[/url 40mm bases into flight stands with some steel nails that were melted into place and then cut down to length, vallejo grey pumice, some shale, paint and static grass. Nothing terribly difficult, but took all my spare time the last few days. It's something I've been planning on doing for 6 years or so, always nice to knock a project like that off your list :) (http://proxiemodels.com/basesonly.aspx)
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Great update.The Rebels look amazing.That is a lot of speeder bikes.
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Hey man...
but Star Wars, man, STAR WARS!
:D
I love what you have done to this, and have been looking for a suitable Star Wars Wargaming rules set, and perhaps Infinity is the way to go, if not, its a beutiful looking game, so wouldent be bad to have in the bookshelf anyway heh.
It will be really interesting to see where you go with this and I will follow this with great interest.
Sonny
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZrS58e6zpsI/TWO6tUrY2qI/AAAAAAAAACc/3YFg_Mk7sGQ/s1600/DSCN6392.JPG)
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZrS58e6zpsI/TWO6tUrY2qI/AAAAAAAAACc/3YFg_Mk7sGQ/s1600/DSCN6392.JPG)
Is that your leg, Sonny?
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nice ink!
Infinity is really a great system for sci-fi skirmish. It's fairly realistic in terms of ranges and getting shot usually = death, even with heavy armor. Cover and lots of LOS blocking terrain are incredibly important because of that, and it has a great reaction system that keeps both players actively playing the entire time. There's a lot of stuff that, thematically, won't fit with Star Wars, but it's all stuff you can simply not field in your games or not use like TO camo or hacking, both of which are in SW but not nearly so prevalent as in Infinity. I think the biggest problem with using it is that it's a little too in depth, the basic system isn't too bad, but there's a LOT of special rules to keep track of. But, Corvus belli knows that most people are going to want their gorgeous models, so they put up the rules and army lists for free, they even have a free army builder program that works wonderfully.
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/downloads/ (http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/downloads/) rules and lists
http://www.infinitythegame.com/dt_army/index.html (http://www.infinitythegame.com/dt_army/index.html) online army builder program
It's easy enough for now to just print out an armybuilder list and say "stormtroopers are ORC troops, scout troopers are Bagh-mari, AT-ST is a JOTUMS" etc, but I may go through and rewrite the armylist sections to make it easier on people to get into, Infinity can be confusing enough without double-checking every single thing to see what counts as what
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I really like what you did to the bases. Simple but very effective. Thanks for sharing!!
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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Very nice repaints.
I have TONNES of Separatist droids (and vehicles galore) as well as a fairly huge box of fringers (great for SAGA Rpg).
I've never played infinity, so keep us in the loop how that turns out for you.
What I am planning on using these figs for is ViDe Generic Sci-fi (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38951.0). So hopefully Agis give us some options for the likes of General Grevious and Droideka! ;)
-Tim
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Is that your leg, Sonny?
Its my left lower arm :)
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What I am planning on using these figs for is ViDe Generic Sci-fi (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38951.0). So hopefully Agis give us some options for the likes of General Grevious and Droideka! ;)
I will! If all works as expected I can show some preview stats in May. ;)
Heavy Gear Walkers, some Robots, elite Commandos - we'll see...
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Hey man... :D
I love what you have done to this, and have been looking for a suitable Star Wars Wargaming rules set, and perhaps Infinity is the way to go, if not, its a beutiful looking game, so wouldent be bad to have in the bookshelf anyway heh.
It will be really interesting to see where you go with this and I will follow this with great interest.
Sonny
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZrS58e6zpsI/TWO6tUrY2qI/AAAAAAAAACc/3YFg_Mk7sGQ/s1600/DSCN6392.JPG)
Imperial scum ;) - still trying to persuade the missus one more tat won't hurt and want the rebel crest on my upper right arm :D
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small update, no pictures yet as everything is very very WIP. Rebels are taking a lot longer than the Imperials. Stormtroopers look just fine with a wash and re-highlight, the rebel commandos are being nearly completely repainted. There's also so few poses for them that I'm using a lot of other figs, especially fringe and aliens & repainting them with a similar camo scheme to the RotJ troopers.
I also need to start thinking about terrain now that the initial 2 factions are almost done. Definitely need a bunker, I'm sure there HAS to be one that might-as-well be form the movie in 28mm scale. Wouldn't be THAT hard to scratch build, but I'd rather have a nice resin piece that I just have to paint. Probably have to scratch build the tree trunks from large pvc pipes covered in paper mache, maybe a tall landing platfomr and tons of star warsy crates to provide enough cover and blocking terrain. If anyone knows any websites with forest tables that actually LOOK like forest tables but are still playable, I'd love some ideas, so far all I got is this
http://www.ironhands.com/endor.htm (http://www.ironhands.com/endor.htm)
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The AT-43 bunker might work. Its got a back door!
http://www.planetongames.com/at43-accessory-expansion-bunker-p-891.html?language=en
-Tim
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The AT-43 bunker might work. Its got a back door!
If you can find one lol. They've been seriously OOP for a couple of years.
That said, if you happen to have an AT-43 bunker and want to get rid of it, please PM first.
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I think that Ainsty do some SciFi bunker pieces that should work with WOTC figures.
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Loving it all!
:-* :-* :-*
Great repaints and it sounds like you have the gaming system sorted pretty well.
I just wish you lot would stop posting such lovely SW threads, as I have been itching to do a SW project for a loooooong time, and between yourself and Agis, it has been itching again.
Please stop....No, dont, it is lovely, carry on!
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Great looking repaints love the concept of using htese with the Infinity rules!
Besides WOTC is there another manufacturer of Star Wars mini's?
Nightmask
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Not currently.
Although there is a new Star Wars game coming out soon, it's an x-wing v tie fighter game, not troops v troops.
Edit: Forgot about the Knight models ones. They are cool.
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West End Games under Grenadier with licence from Lucasarts did the 25mm range back in the day. OOP now and can be quite pricey.
I have lots.... :D
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Great looking repaints love the concept of using htese with the Infinity rules!
Besides WOTC is there another manufacturer of Star Wars mini's?
Nightmask
Knight Modells of course :)
http://www.knightmodels.com/?&id_lang=1
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Cheers!
Found a few figs on E(vil)bay.
Got Lea, Luke and the Imp. boxed set!
Nightmask
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Cheers!
Found a few figs on E(vil)bay.
Got Lea, Luke and the Imp. boxed set!
Nightmask
WOTC or WEG? (bendy or metal).
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Metal ones!!!
Also foudn a guy with the speed from Tatooine....
Nightmask
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Metal ones!!!
Also found a guy with the speeder from Tatooine....
Nightmask
Cool, I've got an action fleet one, never liked the metal front visor on the WEG ones, same goes for the show speeders, a little too small too so went with action fleet again. Good luck on the WEG hunt, took me a while to collect all I had, now I've just gotta get on and paint the damn stuff! ;)
Anyway back to kalamadea, any more updates?
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Dude just no.
This very conversation only happened around at my gaff last night. My mate is learing Japanese. One of the symbols looks like the Khorne Symbol. In showing it to him via interwebbing it there was a pic with of a dude with a massive chaos 8 pointed star tattooed on his back.
I was like that is so not cool and he didnt get it. So to explain it I said "It's a bit like getting the rebel symbol from star wars tattooed on your arm only even worse."
Just no.
Dude, relax, its not your skin ehh?
Wich reminds me, naturally I will get the Rebel symbol as well somewhere, there might be somewhere on the lower right arm that is not occupued yet. So with this in mind, dont listen to this dweeb, go ahead and tell your miss that you "need" dont "want" that tatoo :)
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Generally people who have tattoo's don't care if you're one of those people who don't, shame it isn't always the same the other way round. :? Found this on the tinterweb: Nice take on a balanced ying and yang:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1FUCyb2Xb3g/S_nj5jlWOsI/AAAAAAAAAbo/yhMS1bRGCew/s320/star_wars_tattoo_83.jpg)
Anyway body modification and imperial and alliance alliegences aside, anymore repaints finished?
Really like those biker scouts I have to say.
Commander Vyper (inked).
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Nice tatoo. Might do something simular one day.
I am really interested in how things are going with the conversion Infinity / Star Wars, we discussed it today a lot (since I just got a 1/58 Millenium Falcon in the mail), and I have a friend who thought this was a great idea, since he is allready playing Infinity.
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West End Games under Grenadier with licence from Lucasarts did the 25mm range back in the day. OOP now and can be quite pricey.
Nah. Oop from Grenadier yes. They are available from another source and for about a buck a fig. :-)
Grimm
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(since I just got a 1/58 Millenium Falcon in the mail)
That?
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/star_wars_travel_poster_kessel.jpg)
Han Solo´s workplace:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1048.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1053.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1052.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1051.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1050.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1049.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1047.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1046.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1045.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1044.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1043.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1041.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1040.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1039.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1038.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1037.jpg)
Engines at full throttle:
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll111/wamasaka/Mini2011/MiniaturenfotosOriginale1054.jpg)
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Heya Michi
Yeah thats the one hehe, I have seen yours, and it was actually what made me decide to get one for my self. It wasnt that expensive, besides the shipping, and absolutely worth it. Your version is a beuty, and will look awsome on the landing pad of yours. I hope to make something simular actually, and talked to Kalle about it yesterday, but alas, as you know, we have a large project going on at the moment, so it will have to wait... but since its Star Wars, I cant bring my self to completely abandon it for now, a little Stormtroopers or so every now and then just makes sure I stay healthy! :D
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bunker for you
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/radar-station-p-556.html
(http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/images/Battlefield_Terrain/thumbnails/F00022_FTerrain_RadarStation_01.jpg.thumb_240x180.jpg)
they have some other nice stuff which might be of use...
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/generator-p-555.html
(http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/images/Battlefield_Terrain/thumbnails/F00021_Generator_01.JPG.thumb_240x180.jpg)
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A small WIP update since I've not been able to work on these as much as I'd like last few days. Some rebel commandos almost ready, just need bases, some cloak highlights and a few other details.
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/SWWIP1.jpg)
and also some alien rebels that need a lot of work, just basecoated so far, no camo or anything yet
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/SWWIP2.jpg)
For the terrain, generic sci-fi bunkers are everywhere. I'm looking for one close to the movie. The power station is fantastic though, I had forgotten about MAS' foam resin stuff (which is ironic, when you consider they do all the Infinity stuff).
Michi - that is an aboslutely awesome looking falcon. I'm not sure I could justify the amount of space it would take to store it vs how much use i'd get form it, but it's darn tempting.
As for the ink, I like it! If you want a rebel tat, go for it. Even highly visible ones are a lot more accepted than they used to be. You get a few odd looks, but generally I find the people that look down on it aren't people I care to associate with to begin with, or they have to deal with me anyways so it doesn't matter. But then again, I specifically chose a profession where such things don't matter, you can always get it someplace that isn't visible if it does. Just make sure you get a good artist, tattoos are definitely something you don't want to try to get a bargain on even if it's a simple design. You get what you pay for.
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Great looking rebs you have there, will be nice to see them when they are finished! The Falcon model is a bit large, but then, I have so much Star Wars Vintage stuff in my bookshelfs allready, one more ship or not doesnt really matter hehe.
However, its size is what makes it soo nice, it will be a cool adition to any table, both as terrain and as atmosphere enhancer I would dare to say.
As for the ink, I like it! If you want a rebel tat, go for it. Even highly visible ones are a lot more accepted than they used to be. You get a few odd looks, but generally I find the people that look down on it aren't people I care to associate with to begin with, or they have to deal with me anyways so it doesn't matter.
This ^^. I am 45 and have crap loads of dodgy tatoos, and I am way beyond the point where I would care if anyone saw my ink or not, I cant really hide them even if I want too. I once at a larger company meeting took of my jacket of my suit, and I had a very thin white shirt with a tie (it was horribly warm and the AC was acting up), and I can tell you that I did get quite a lot of people not only looking but stairing at me, heh, was kind of amusing actually.
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Nice Rebels!
I particularly like the 'alien' variety, it is good to spice things up.
A few years ago I made a few 'alien Rebel troopers' to add to my Star Wars figure collection for variety.
I may have to dig them out....
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is that alien doing 1 handed, 1 legged push ups lol
rest is looking awesome :o
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I'm still trying to get round to painting my WEG 25mm Star Wars. I 'think' I have everything that was released, and I've managed to pick up a handful of Micor Machines Fllet Action vehicles which are pretty much spot on for size. Can't be bothered to repaint all the WOTC plastics I have - as nice as people are making them look. Also waiting for my 15mm 'not' rebels and 'not' stormtroopers to be sculpted for me by a friend for my own personal armies :-*
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Nice Rebels!
I particularly like the 'alien' variety, it is good to spice things up.
A few years ago I made a few 'alien Rebel troopers' to add to my Star Wars figure collection for variety.
I may have to dig them out....
Please do Mason, would be ineresting to see them!
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(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p512/Rhelyk/SWWIP2.jpg)
I love the Bith and Mon Cal heads. Great thread.
I've been playing solo Star Wars skirmishes using Flying Lead with the bastardization of 'magic-user' from Song of Blades and Heros for Jedi/Sith. Works pretty well. Very simple, no book keeping, and very little looking up rules or stats - which is important when you're a simpleton like me :)
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Guys,
Can any one do a comparison shot from a WEG figure with a Micro Fleet action vehicle?
Are they close scale wise?
cheers,
Nightmask
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Guys,
Can any one do a comparison shot from a WEG figure with a Micro Fleet action vehicle?
Are they close scale wise?
cheers,
Nightmask
I've quite a few, there are (certainly to my eye )spot on (i'll try and sort out some pics for you) - also, the old Denizen 25mm range and the GZG 25mm ranges are great for padding out and making local defence forces, rebel forces, imperial army types and so on - sizes match up beautifully.
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I've quite a few, there are (certainly to my eye )spot on (i'll try and sort out some pics for you) - also, the old Denizen 25mm range and the GZG 25mm ranges are great for padding out and making local defence forces, rebel forces, imperial army types and so on - sizes match up beautifully.
Thanks!
Looking forward to those pics.
Will check on GZG and Denizen!
Nightmask
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Anybody played the rules for Star Wars from West End Games?
Are they any good?
Nightmask